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SM has told our wage clerk they will probably be moved to dot com in October. 

Such a healthy way to treat your people isn't it.

Healthy as in possibly keeping somebody in a job?

Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 27-06-23, 07:49AMSM has told our wage clerk they will probably be moved to dot com in October. 

What about those that cannot work on Dot.com or lift etc. Seems very unfair that they are being dumped after many years service and may not be fit enough for any where else!

Quote from: JJH on 27-06-23, 12:31PMHealthy as in possibly keeping somebody in a job?

Yes and no ..... redundancy should be offered if a job goes.But if keeping a job yes,but it may not always suit.

Why should it be offered?

If a business has vacancies then it makes sense to move those from a redundant role into it rather than paying out a fortune. I'd imagine a lot of wages clerks have been with the company for a long time.

Redundancy should be offered because the soon to be effected employee may find the alternatives unreasonable because of any number of criteria.

I don't think anything is being announced about wages or admin this week. Changes to stock control are coming in week 24 or 25. There is actually nothing down at all for wages so if the role was going in October something would be on coms about it by now. Maybe they have put it on hold.

Quote from: JJH on 27-06-23, 05:13PMWhy should it be offered?

If a business has vacancies then it makes sense to move those from a redundant role into it rather than paying out a fortune. I'd imagine a lot of wages clerks have been with the company for a long time.

*If* Wages does go they will not be paying out redundancy. It will be a pay protection package for a while. The issues with the pay protection packages though is that if a wage clerk is now on bread and cake the other bread and cake colleagues will be doing the same job but getting paid less.

This is why skills payments in my honest opinion were more trouble than they were worth. 

What sort of terms have to be met for redundancy these days anyway? if you have a live or active warning does that mean they could stop you getting it? 

Quote from: Nomad on 27-06-23, 05:30PMRedundancy should be offered because the soon to be effected employee may find the alternatives unreasonable because of any number of criteria.

Surely that's just open to all kinds of abuse though!

I'm 100% certain Wages are not getting offered redundancy. I know two Union reps one of whom works with the higher body and no talk of Wages getting a pay out have been conducted.

So if Wages is to be scrapped as a department (and I repeat again - don't think any announcement is coming before September at the earliest)  then you are defo going somewhere on the shop floor.

I think it will probably be next May when both Wages and Admin go. The whole point of the manager shake up was to make the managers do their own admin work. This is why the actual admins lost their work/pay and frog access. They don't need it anymore as the managers are supposed to be doing it, soon wages will lose the same access because managers are going to do that all by themselves too.  Only the Extras still have active admins anyway. None of the smaller stores need them as their managers do it all just like the Extras will soon.

Like you say 75% of Tesco stores actually have no Admin Colleagues and the Wage Clerk in the smaller stores is usually a multi skiller who spends most of their time elsewhere.

I can see the logic in the Extras keeping on one Admin Colleague given the size of the legal aspect that a large store brings but it will probably be reduced to something like 4 hours a day rather than a big long 6 or 9 hour shift.

Quote from: BrightEyes on 27-06-23, 06:10PMI don't think anything is being announced about wages or admin this week. Changes to stock control are coming in week 24 or 25. There is actually nothing down at all for wages so if the role was going in October something would be on coms about it by now. Maybe they have put it on hold.

I wondered this too you know. Perhaps the Scheduler being an out right disaster means they have suspended what was planned.

I do know that its coming though. Wages is going and its worth pointing out to avoid confusion that Admin staff will not be taking over doing Wages. Wages will go completely. Admin staff will have a restricted and reduced role. This is why all Admin staff have lost work and pay access. You don't need it for your role going forward.

What is happening to stock control in week 25?

Job14/PR scanning will move to mornings - has to be completed before 1pm that day on the new system - so they will scan and reduce as they go. No more second reductions. It will be first reductions from 8am and  then straight onto finals for what is left at 1pm and no more fresh colleagues doing the reductions - they will be working stock while the job14 crew do the job they used to do.

Evening scan in for the next day will no longer be needed. Its the first step to incorporating date scanning back into the fresh departments themselves. Stock Control will eventually disappear too. 

Ah yes remember now! don't think the job14 team in my store have been told they are getting moved to mornings yet. How much notice are they supposed to be given? 

My store has been doing it this way since April.  Though none of job 14 got moved to the morning as none of them could due to uni and childcare.  They've all been placed across fresh on the hours they were on.  So they moved fresh staff to doing it.  At my store right now they all start reductions at 6am  you have to 5pm to scan in though.  And finals are from 5pm.  We were only given 6 days notice of the change.

The admin in our store hasn't lost access to anything and when I have questioned the point in this when some have and are having to request back again and others haven't I was told that so many other colleagues had access also that they have wiped it clean and admins have to request it back again, everything seems to be a complete shambles!
 Usdaw should be ashamed to call themselves a union for workers how they are letting colleagues be treated lately, they just live in Tesco's pockets

@Candysue

All except the Wages clerk and line/lead/store managers should have lost access to work and pay. A list of those who still had access (so shift leaders/team support etc) should have then landed on the Store Managers desk and the store manager was to decide whether or not they keep access.

 Requests for Admin Colleagues to regain access should have been sent off but most have been refused even though Admin Colleagues are the ones who are rightly supposed to cover when wages clerk is off. So they are working on fixing this issue but in the usual Tesco way its taking forever.  No one outside of wages or management should now have access to work and pay without clearance.  So if someone who shouldn't have that access still has it they will probably have it revoked soon.

This is because only managers are supposed to be on work and pay going forward.   

See in my store Team Support and the Shift Leads still have access to Frog but they can't change any shifts because if they do the Store Manager gets a drop down to say who did it and when  its caused chaos at . com as they are terrified of moving people around incase they get in trouble even though making sure everyone was in the right place was supposed to be part of the shift leads job.

 

 

That is because Tesco felt shift leads/team support were abusing Frog by allocating shifts to 'favourites'. Reason its now getting tracked is to avoid this from happening. All overtime shifts should be placed on Extra Hours equally and fairly for everyone to see.

Yes but now no one picks up shifts.

Exactly.

Have exactly the same issue in my store. Any cushy Mon-Fri day shifts get filled instantly but try and get a Fri/Sat evening shift filled....