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Team Managers about to get demoted-lose pay!

Started by markwinters, 29-12-22, 11:06AM

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BobbyDazler

#1375
PR scanning can only be done after 5pm otherwise it interferes with daily reductions routines. So unless Tesco are suddenly not bothered about pulse and waste reports it won't be changing. 

Also how would it save money moving PR scan colleagues into the mornings? they won't sack those people, if the routines did ever change they would just be moved to where needed.

Reason PR scan is done on an evening is for two reasons, one less stock should be on the shelf so it takes less time, and second, by law anything with that days date on has to be removed by 9pm. The PR scan team are not just there to scan in for tomorrow, they are there to take off anything that got missed during the day so that the store doesn't get fined.

On the new ideal base which had been made ready for the scheduler. The PR scan team in my extra are 3 persons each evening and 1 stock colleague  each for fresh, grocery and non food between 6am and 10am

BobbyDazler

#1376
Quote from: kaled78 on 27-03-23, 08:48PMany sensible manager would permanetly move their staffs hours to fit within the ideal base,so they don't get sent to other departments

Some of our managers are better at this than others but so many departments are so far over that its impossible to be green.

Its going to be very interesting seeing just where the scheduler sends these people. There is one woman in my store who is contracted to start at 6am but ideal base now says she isn't needed until 10am, she is refusing to move her hours. So I hope she is ready for dot com as there is where she will be heading for her first 4 hours.

GotAClubcard

#1377
Job14 is that interlinked to so many different daily internal reports I cannot see Tesco changing it. Moving it from an evening to a morning won't make less work either, it will just make even more as like said there would be more stock on the shelf to scan through.

If Stock Control is being cut back again it will most likely be lows and overs that go. Targeted stock counts will always be needed as will Job14 and its easy to say make each department do it themselves. They might well do that, but it won't mean the stock control being made redundant. They would just be moved into those departments to do the same job from there instead but then if each manager is 30 colleagues per head how would giving the managers even more staff work with the new team manager shake up? which has already been signed off.... so now the stock control manager is going to lose all their staff but remain as a manager?

Yeah sorry but that doesn't sound accurate.

The only rumours I've heard is like others, something is happening to Team Support at the front end. Its the people who get skilled payments that Head Office are coming for.

BobbyDazler

Like I said above. Ideal base in my store is saying 3 stock colleagues between 6am and 10am for fresh, grocery and non food, then 3 colleagues between 5pm and 9pm for PR scanning.

That is accurate. It only came down last week to prepare for the scheduler. If a stock colleague is contracted to hours that go beyond the ideal base they will just be moved onto another department for the rest of their shift.

sammy

#1379
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 28-03-23, 12:01AM@sammy do you actually sell anything full price in your store?

Yes but the reductions are crazy it's straight to percentage reductions which  is pretty much final prices. this has been like this since 2021. No routine are followed. They try to push it back every so often for a couple of day  but it doesn't work and this hasn't been done since last April. The people hanging around all day for this reductions is crazy they do a longer shift then us waiting

King1999

#1380
Scheduler is basically a stop watch timing us is it, good luck on that one if anything it will make people work slower.  Thought the company had already been done for sweat shop working conditions somewhere.  Might do it if these trials actually worked, a lot have just been forced through to cut head count.

NorthbyNorthwest

The conversation seems to have gone away from the original subject, but with good cause. For those not leaving, it could be hard in the next year embedding the new ways of working. In my own store staff are being 'persuaded' to try out new areas. The fresh team are completely lost past their aisles and the checkout staff really have no idea about the rest of the store past a seat and a machine that beeps at them. Ambient area colleagues have always been the 'grunts' of the store and thrown into any situation. Trolley's need pushing? Grab someone from Grocery!
Fresh delivery turned up late? Grab someone from Grocery!
Breaks need covering on Checkouts? Grab someone from Grocery!
And before someone has a go, it is not the people on those departments fault it is like this, it is the company's lacklustre attitude in the past decade that has created a situation that they are now going at full pelt to fix. I for one predict disaster, but luckily won't have to get involved in fixing. This company used to innovate and care for it's staff in a way that would bring benefits for all, now i don't see any benefits for anyone going forward.

SpudChucker1970

#1382
Like I've said, it's already a trial in stores. They do PR in the morning, just like in convenience. This is the only reduction all day until finals. Hence still saving hours. Final reductions are captured. Colleagues in morning therefore investigated if anything missed. Saves going over it all again. Colleagues to keep an eye out during replen and rumble. Algorithms will make sure correct markdowns are used. Analysis is showing it will save stores on average 42 hours a week minimum. Projected to save circa £6mil a year in payroll. Restructure for this will happen in September.

And the whole 9pm law comment. Absolute ridiculous. You got until midnight, hence colleague shop.

Mrs Jones

Can anyone explain what the Banked holiday hours are in your work and pay?
Joining company 2001

5fdp

Mrs Jones. Please explain what you mean? Your comment doesn't make sense.

NorthbyNorthwest

Mrs Jones, do you mean the first line in the holiday information area of W&P? If so, it's for those of us that joined before mid(?) 1991. We didn't receive holidays for the first year of service. As you joined later, yours should have a zero in it. For those of us that did have to work for a whole year without a break, we will have six weeks holiday pay additionally to come in our final pay.

Mrs Jones

Thank you. Could it be for working a week in hand rather than holidays ?

jonty

Has anyone had a load of posters appear in staff areas about becoming a shift leader?

They're cringeworthy  :D

Checkout Superstar

#1388
Job14 is done on an evening as a scan in for the next day, why would they be doing that on a morning now and then no reductions until finals at 7pm?

What you have posted makes no sense, are the persons who do the 7pm reductions expected to go around pulling everything off that late at night? Waste is going to be huge

Which stores are trailing this? I will ask my manager about it

Checkout Superstar

Quote from: King1999 on 28-03-23, 11:26AMScheduler is basically a stop watch timing us is it, good luck on that one if anything it will make people work slower.  Thought the company had already been done for sweat shop working conditions somewhere.  Might do it if these trials actually worked, a lot have just been forced through to cut head count.

The scheduler will only work if every department is close to the correct hours. Is any store  :D I would place a bet on whether or not they suspended it.

GotAClubcard

#1390
That user is having a laugh.

I'm a shift leader and I've heard nothing about a shake up of the Potential Reductions routines. Our Extra store often tops the local table for being the best at it.

There is no way they are going to ditch the evening PR team, move them to mornings to then scan in for that day? then no reductions until finals. That means totally ditching the start up trades lol the poor sods who do finals will have 500 items to get through. Then there is Sundays! lmao it would never work.

 I've never heard anything so daft. Like you said, waste would be so huge the store would literally end up in the red for all their figures.

HalloweenJack

J14 is done in express same day, its a morning routine now in convenience and is working there. Finals would be pushed back based on store open hours as well , express do it 2 hours before close.

GotAClubcard

Express stores can do it on a morning because they are so small.

Extras and Superstores can't because they hold far higher levels of fresh food

Checkout Superstar

I've just asked my SM. He knows nothing about extras ditching Job14

BobbyDazler

#1394
Mate fresh food colleague shop hasn't been a thing for almost a year.

GotAClubcard

Yeah our colleague shop got taken away ages ago. We still do charity though. Doubt that will continue however if there are going to be hundreds of reductions to reduce at 7pm every day. Bulk of it will probably end up straight in waste.

NorthbyNorthwest

Quote from: Mrs Jones on 28-03-23, 05:14PMThank you. Could it be for working a week in hand rather than holidays ?
Not as far as I'm aware. We now get paid up to and including the Saturday after the Friday we're paid.

Jamesowhiteo

Large pilot stores - Monday 27 February (Week 1)
We have been trialling some changes to the potential reduction scan (PRS) and review process.
This trial will now be extended to include Groups 7, 24, 43 and store 2202. Group 23 and store 3213 will continue this trial.
Why are we doing this?
It is our responsibility to ensure we never sell a product which is out of date and harmful to health. 'Use by dates are used to protect food safety, they are generally found on high-risk foods which require refrigeration, such as fish, meat, prepared foods and dairy. This change will reduce the risk of displaying out of code
products.
What does this mean for my store?
Operational Impact
• Timing changes:
First reduction scan will move from 5pm on the evening before product expiry to 6am on the morning of expiry
Complete removal of first and second reviews
FIna review wi move trom om to bm
• PRS window will be extended so products can be scanned until 8pm on day of expiry
All products will receive a reduction label at PRS apart from Fresh Bakery
All products should be moved to the reduction cabinet at PRS
People impact
The responsibility for the PRS routine will move from stock control to the fresh departments
All colleagues should complete the 'preventing out of code training and validation on Click & Learn

CaramelBunny

#1398
They were always going to move job14 onto the fresh departments at some point and I had been told it was coming but my understanding was the trial hasn't given any sort of impact results yet.

 Problem is  in my opinion, if the heatmap's saying Bread is only supposed to have one person on from 6am to 1pm who will do the filling while Wendy spends two hours pulling all out of codes off? (bare in mind Bread delivery usually doesn't land until 6.30) then dot com availability is effected and targets don't get hit.

by the way Stock Control are not losing any staff over this. There is going to be an increase in counts and other routines. So rather than 30 odd provisions everyday there will now be 70 etc. 

I suspect Stock colleagues will be thrilled to see the back of date scan.

Checkout Superstar

^^ Long life Grocery date scanning will still need doing though unless they are incorperating that onto Grocery colleagues as well.

I wonder if this also means dairy colleagues have to do all the long life meat/yogurts and cheese date checks each day too  ;D

Poor dairy colleagues are going to be sick as dogs if this does go company wide.

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