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#1
Stores / Re: Questions for distribution
Last post by Last hurrah - 27-03-24, 11:04PM
Quote from: Nightproduceworker on 27-03-24, 08:19PMwhat about picking and stacking of cages? How many does it take to load 64 cages for double decker. I know it's done on speed, why the cages come packed and absolute mess, which yes can be due to loading onto the lorry and travelling in the lorry. How many hours contracted to staff work to pick these cages?
It's difficult to say really. Fresh is picked very differently to packaged:

Packaged (grocery, non food, bed etc) is all picked by store. One colleague takes cages on a LLOP and drives up and down lanes of pallets picking into those cages what they are told to pick. One cage will only be picked by one person, and the time will wholly depend on what product they are picking. H&B will take a long time, crisps or toilet roll very little time.

In Fresh cages are laid out in a big u-shape where each store has its own 'lane'. Pickers there will walk around that layout with a pallet picking stock from their pallet into a cage. That means a cage of yoghurts or ready meals could have 50-100 different people pick into it (which is why fresh cage fill and stacking will be worse than you should see from grocery - it's very very difficult to pin down who is poorly stacking).

On average, a site will do 200,000 cases per day at a pick rate of 175 cases per hour which means they would use somewhere around 1,150 hours to pick it.

If I had to take a rough guess at the time to pick all of the stock for that 64 cages, I'd say somewhere around 9-10 hours total.
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Stores / Re: Questions for distribution
Last post by Nightproduceworker - 27-03-24, 08:19PM
Quote from: Last hurrah on 27-03-24, 06:33PM
Quoteand is this just one person loading the fresh stock? Or multiple workers with a machine or handwork?
Just one, two for a fixed double decker if your store still gets them. They'll use MHE to move stock to the bay, only loading it onto a trailer if it's a standard 13m. No MHE on any deckers or short trailers/rigids - then it's all by hand.

Gets even more complex for multi run drops with more than one store on.
what about picking and stacking of cages? How many does it take to load 64 cages for double decker. I know it's done on speed, why the cages come packed and absolute mess, which yes can be due to loading onto the lorry and travelling in the lorry. How many hours contracted to staff work to pick these cages?
#3
Stores / Re: What changes will January ...
Last post by oldfashionedplayer - 27-03-24, 07:12PM
well they definitely changed bits anyhow, there was a wage clerk role under the large store packs, cause i remember looking at it but its not there now...

but it still refers to wage clerks etc as "having access" Introduction
We have made some changes to the Tesco Store Administrator (TSA) role to ensure that only Wage Clerks and Store Managers have access. This role provides access to colleague data to complete payroll activities.

that was last updated back in 2023, so that would still be relevant information on a role Date updated: July 19, 2023 12:15

says about:

Who should have this role?
This role is for Wage Clerks and Store Managers. If you are a Stock & Admin Manager or Admin Assistant and require this access as part of your role and this has been agreed by your store manager, then you can request access by following"

so if roles were indeed updated with contract then who were these wage clerks?  ??? - if they were indeed too, then the colleague should of got a full contract update again, but instead with it being a longer one to sign, like us no one got anything unless you requested it, so that'd be an easy way to prove too..  >:D
#4
Stores / Re: Wage deductions
Last post by oldfashionedplayer - 27-03-24, 06:54PM
thats probably because good friday is after the cut off point... Payroll cut-off date for March pay day was Friday, 22/03/2024, 17:00

Our standard payroll cut-off deadline is 7 days before payday, which is the Friday before payday.

For example, if Friday 18th is payday, then the cut-off day is Friday 11th.


Next Start - 31/03/2024 - End -27/04/2024 - cut off - 19/04/2024 pay - 26/04/2024, all on colleague help, they have a running notification on the site as you navigate cause im guessing the lack of knowledge from managers knowing when the cutoff is etc and to make sure its actually done, so there isn't a "i didn't know" and colleagues can see it too so they can go "i can get that in before the cutoff"
#5
Stores / Re: Questions for distribution
Last post by Last hurrah - 27-03-24, 06:33PM
Quoteand is this just one person loading the fresh stock? Or multiple workers with a machine or handwork?
Just one, two for a fixed double decker if your store still gets them. They'll use MHE to move stock to the bay, only loading it onto a trailer if it's a standard 13m. No MHE on any deckers or short trailers/rigids - then it's all by hand.

Gets even more complex for multi run drops with more than one store on.
#6
Stores / Re: Questions for distribution
Last post by Nightproduceworker - 27-03-24, 06:17PM
Quote from: Last hurrah on 27-03-24, 04:48PM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 26-03-24, 09:06AM@last hurrah think its more down to handling stock is handling stock,you put it on a cage,we take it off,no difference in the motion or muscles used to complete that task
I agree that handling stock is handling stock, but that's on a case by case basis. Picking pallets of a hundred cases of butter or fifty trays of potatoes or boxes of bananas is harder work than working cages of even the heaviest stock in store. Moving one box of bananas in +12 requires on slightly more work than doing so in a store. But the quantities involved are drastically different.

I'm not saying that working in a store isn't hard graft on some departments, just comparing the two jobs as like for like isn't accurate.

In terms of using machinery, yes our DCs use powered MHE for many tasks but that also brings with it significant risk of injury to yourself or others in a cold and noisy environment.

Loading a trailer in a fresh site is probably one of the most complicated things we ask a colleague to do as a business. You have to work out what order you're going to load in, what temperature zones to set and how much of each temperature to load. Then collect the stock, arrange it safely and secure it with straps, close bulkheads and ensure temperature zones are within tolerance. All the while you also have to be mindful of the weight of stock you are loading and ensure there's enough weight over the fifth wheel, or that the bottom deck of a DD or MDDD is heavier, even if you haven't put stock on it yet. You are responsible for tens of thousands of pounds worth of stock which hinges on your diligence and decision making. Unloading one in store means opening a door, checking a temperature, and pulling stock off into a warehouse (or to a chiller if you don't have tip and fill teams anymore). Technically you could say that putting stock on a trailer and taking it off is the same but in reality it isn't.

If we look at value to the business, an average store gets what, 10,000 customers per day? An average DC services 200 stores, so around 2,000,000 customers a day. With a headcount probably only twice that of a big extra.

Again, I want to be clear that I absolutely do not think working in store is easy, but working in a DC is not on the same level in my opinion.
and is this just one person loading the fresh stock? Or multiple workers with a machine or handwork?
#7
Stores / Re: Retirement
Last post by lucgeo - 27-03-24, 05:50PM
The 20% reduction in hours is for 6 months previous to retirement. Anyone thinking of retiring should be informing their manager at least 8 months previously, as it has to be fed through to the pensions team to be made aware and start processing.

If you're thinking of retiring in less than six months, you'd only get the remaining months at 20%, but then it's not going to be automatic as they do require notice. A manager may agree to start your reduction sooner, but even then you have to agree when it's taken in your working week.

Anyone thinking of retirement, I would advise the 8 month route, even if it means working those few weeks longer. As any holidays due need to be agreed as paid or holiday. Deciding and agreeing when you're taking it, as they'll likely want a drop early week and you weekend, so you'll both need to compromise. It also gives more time to receive all relevant acknowledgement from the pension dept.

N*B*. If you're an old timer colleague who worked a week in hand at the beginning of your employment with Tesco, then you need to ask for your accrued pay for one week on your then contracted hours.

Once you leave Tesco it is very hard to get any discrepancies sorted, so the longer you give yourself the more likely you'll get all your information and paid dues owing.
#8
Stores / Re: Questions for distribution
Last post by Last hurrah - 27-03-24, 04:48PM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 26-03-24, 09:06AM@last hurrah think its more down to handling stock is handling stock,you put it on a cage,we take it off,no difference in the motion or muscles used to complete that task
I agree that handling stock is handling stock, but that's on a case by case basis. Picking pallets of a hundred cases of butter or fifty trays of potatoes or boxes of bananas is harder work than working cages of even the heaviest stock in store. Moving one box of bananas in +12 requires on slightly more work than doing so in a store. But the quantities involved are drastically different.

I'm not saying that working in a store isn't hard graft on some departments, just comparing the two jobs as like for like isn't accurate.

In terms of using machinery, yes our DCs use powered MHE for many tasks but that also brings with it significant risk of injury to yourself or others in a cold and noisy environment.

Loading a trailer in a fresh site is probably one of the most complicated things we ask a colleague to do as a business. You have to work out what order you're going to load in, what temperature zones to set and how much of each temperature to load. Then collect the stock, arrange it safely and secure it with straps, close bulkheads and ensure temperature zones are within tolerance. All the while you also have to be mindful of the weight of stock you are loading and ensure there's enough weight over the fifth wheel, or that the bottom deck of a DD or MDDD is heavier, even if you haven't put stock on it yet. You are responsible for tens of thousands of pounds worth of stock which hinges on your diligence and decision making. Unloading one in store means opening a door, checking a temperature, and pulling stock off into a warehouse (or to a chiller if you don't have tip and fill teams anymore). Technically you could say that putting stock on a trailer and taking it off is the same but in reality it isn't.

If we look at value to the business, an average store gets what, 10,000 customers per day? An average DC services 200 stores, so around 2,000,000 customers a day. With a headcount probably only twice that of a big extra.

Again, I want to be clear that I absolutely do not think working in store is easy, but working in a DC is not on the same level in my opinion.
#9
Stores / Re: Wage deductions
Last post by willie2018 - 27-03-24, 04:39PM
no premium on my payslip for good friday
#10
Stores / Re: Wage deductions
Last post by fatlad - 27-03-24, 03:15PM
Thanks for that info, so I can assume that any bank holiday premium from working Good Friday will be seen in April's pay?

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