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Very Little Helps => Stores => Topic started by: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PM

Title: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PM
Just wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?

Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 24-01-23, 01:06PM
Nobody even mentioned it on nightshift in my store,cant even remember seeing a poster up,only seen it on our tesco,why would i recomend it as a great place to shop?when some nights only had 2 grocery staff on in an extra
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Duff McKagan on 24-01-23, 01:08PM
Our old store manager used to sit us down in groups and give us all that spiel but the last 3 store managers haven't bothered, we just get told to go fill in this years questionnaire (whatever they have decided to call it this year).

As for discount being added to wages, I've always taken issue with that...they know full well that the vast majority, if not all of us never use the full amount of discount or anywhere near so including it would be incorrect. They can set the discount as high as they like and boast all they like but the reality is I'll never spend enough in Tesco to use it all. What's the discount now? £1500? Who's spending £15k? Most of us don't earn £15k
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:18PM
That's very true, you also have to spend some of YOUR wage before you get a discount so doesn't add up at all. The pay rises were to keep us legal and as for covid, Tesco was one of the few places allowed to open and so made many billions of pounds profit whilst others couldn't trade.

We don't have any posters up either but colleagues are being escorted up to have their brainwashing done before filling it in. They really think we are imbeciles with extremely short memories! No respect there then.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: londoner83 on 24-01-23, 01:19PM
Just complete the survey at home in the comfort of your own home away from any influences.

Having said that I'd have no issue putting my employee number on the survey. Always believe you should never give feedback you wouldn't give face to face.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 2ndtimeround on 24-01-23, 01:58PM
Whatever you put down on there will be blamed on your individual line manager either way. Tesco simply tell them it's all down to them as they are the face of the company and nothing to do with the real ones making the decisions. 🤷🏻�♂️
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-01-23, 04:49PM
yes that is why i don't fill it in when i have a manager i like.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lackofinterest on 24-01-23, 05:02PM
i was told by someone who filled it in that the store manager was there telling them what to put  >:(
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: world of their own on 24-01-23, 06:35PM
Hi all.

Just remember that the "viewpoint" is voluntary,
Never let your manager tell you otherwise.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Lostrebel on 24-01-23, 10:11PM
Why would you not want to give your view?

If you don't like it, why would you continue to work there?
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 25-01-23, 12:35AM
Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



its the only time we get someone telling us a bit of information when it comes up lol, we also usually start getting told "if you have any problems, please come to us about them so we can work to fix them" - Like hell you will, same stuff been broken and missing since the millenium bug came to town ! lmao.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Andi on 25-01-23, 02:05AM
I work night shift and the only thing I've seen about the WMTY is POS on the canteen tables, no one giving us a pep talk or anything wouldn't matter anyway we know its all c**p you're going to give your honest opinion regardless.  I did mine at home and it wasn't a pretty picture, not that it'll make a difference like every year nothing comes of it.  I think last year all they did on the wall of the outcomes was change the year from the previous year everything else was the same.  At the end of the survey where they asked about anything else to say I said give night shift our redundancy we are sick of this sh*t! Again wont make a difference.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Redx on 25-01-23, 11:00AM
Our store manager tells us it we don't do a good WMTY you shouldn't be working for the company, and sits next to you in the office while you fill it in
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lucgeo on 25-01-23, 11:25AM
Going by his reasoning, he'd have no staff  ???

He should not be sitting in with you, if you're a union member ask your rep to enforce the rules.
Otherwise an obvious answer is to do it at home, though it goes against the grain to do it in your own time, there is the bonus of filling it in numerous times! All negative obvs  ;)
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Duff McKagan on 25-01-23, 11:53AM
We had a store manager like that, didn't sit next to us but did try to tell us what to write and essentially said that if we wrote anything negative we should leave the company...it was never that the company was doing anything wrong, never their fault, it was always us being negative and we should leave if we didn't like it.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PM
I don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 25-01-23, 01:01PM
We've had SMs like that as well. Must be coming from the top as to what to say to colleagues and also the sitting in the room.

I always refused to do it if they were in the room. We also had to tick our names off a sheet to show that we had done it. "You know where the door is" and "you're being very negative" and "bringing down the moral of others" were all favourite phrases if you disagreed or questioned anything.

This year it's just the pep talk and they've promised to put the results up for us all to see ..... haven't seen detailed results for a few years now.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 25-01-23, 02:03PM
Quote from: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PMI don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 

:thumbup:
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: happyone on 25-01-23, 02:17PM
I always do mine on my phone so they can't see my answers also think it's a bit of a waste of time as not much has changed.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: penguin on 25-01-23, 06:07PM
We had a produce manager once who told me I could be arrested for not filling it in, he said as it asks questions on equal opportunities your breaking the law by not completing it and he was not joking he genuinely thought he was correct in what he was saying.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: forrestgimp on 26-01-23, 08:10AM
Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



We used to but they dont bother anymore we just used to laugh at them.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lucgeo on 26-01-23, 10:27AM
Quote from: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PMI don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 

I'm happy you're happy in your job. Seriously I am. There are some good stores out there, run by a good team of managers who take their lead from the SM!
I myself enjoyed working under 2 SM's, the section managers were content in their jobs, in house fighting was unheard of as everyone pulled together as and when needed, and actually enjoyed a good vibe whilst doing it.

Unfortunately the norm now seems to be a breed of narcissistic SM's who enjoy the power of bullying people and have their whole family in employment on the highest hour contracts. Just a personal observation but it seems the shorter they are, the nastier they are!

If you're young enough, have no commitments or financial restraints or just able to move to another job, then that's your choice.

However there are many to whom this is not an option, either they have contracts that fit in with other commitments, or other factors. You also have those colleagues who are in their final stretch of employment years, and for them it's better the devil you know! Then you've got those colleagues who have worked a great deal of years with Tesco, seen many of the changes made over the years, mainly to the detriment of the general workforce! There's where the negativity and mistrust originates from!

At one time the WMTY survey was written forms, sealed and handed in to the PM to send off to HO. Now it's done online, in secret ( supposedly ) and anonymous, why do you think that is?? Because some SM's can't even be trusted not to manipulate and corrupt the feedback. Everything comes down to their bonus and they don't care how they achieve it!

Perhaps a survey on how good your store is on this "anonymous website" would achieve a more honest result than any Tesco manipulated WMTY feedback!
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: dizzy_1 on 26-01-23, 10:56AM
Still wonder how anonymous it is if you have to sign into with your one login. Used to be you all went to a link that asked for your store number and that was it.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Pathfinder on 26-01-23, 02:36PM
Had a prep talk before doing it ...i asked manger if he remembered last survey as it was s**t! Nothing has changed ..he hasn't changed so don't expect the results to change.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lucgeo on 26-01-23, 02:51PM
 @Pathfinder

Got it in one 👍👍

Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: OvaSees on 26-01-23, 02:56PM
Quote from: Pathfinder on 26-01-23, 02:36PMHad a prep talk before doing it ...i asked manger if he remembered last survey as it was s**t! Nothing has changed ..he hasn't changed so don't expect the results to change.
Same, had the 'pep talk' from the SM. The whole thing was defeated with 3 simple questions - "compared to what?", "at what cost?", "where is the evidence/data that supports it?". If they think I'm happier than when my shift times fitted with my lifestyle, when I had a proper staff restaurant, when my discount wasn't wiped out in real terms by inflationary price increases and when I could get more hours/overtime than I can ever hope for now then they are delusional.

I too got the 'we protected your jobs during COVID lecture' until I highlighted that Tesco repaid £585m of COVID business rates relief after it was criticised for paying dividends to shareholders in that year when it reported a 29% increase in profits due to our efforts during the height of the pandemic, that our store was legally obligated to protect our jobs and could have taken advanatge of the furloughed scheme as we were deemed 'essential' but didn't, how many temps we took on to cope and then let go since, and questioned how many redundancies our store has made over the last 4 years in addition to how any people had left and not been replaced.

SM walked out in stunned silence.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Expressmanager on 27-01-23, 06:05PM
As a store manager, i have talked to my staff about the good, the bad and everything else, asked them to complete as to how they feel and left them alone to complete it. I take away the learning and then work with all my store colleagues to maintain the positives and improve the negatives
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Loki on 27-01-23, 07:27PM
Surveys in general are a waste of time in my honest opinion. WMTY takes it to another level where it's both insulting and disingenuous. Especially when considering they are more often than not rolled out literally within a month prior to the company axing jobs and basically subjecting whatever colleagues are left to further exploitation.
Or maybe I'm just too much of a pessimist with Stockholm syndrome.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Felix on 28-01-23, 07:58AM
Greetings. Long time reader but this is my first post.

With regards to WMTY its important to colleagues to complete it especially one question.

I believe it is worded "how satisfied are you with the total reward package"

This question is about your pay, I was suprised by the number of responses in my store from people who thought this was about our discount card or pension etc.

This question used to read "how satisfied are you with your pay" years ago. Amazingly colleague used to answer this positively. The ones I asked anyway.

While this is speculation on my part it is my firm belief that tesco take this data into each pay review meeting and open by telling USDAW x % of staff are happy with their pay.
Based on people in the past answering positively and the new disguised question I worry this % is higer than it should be and thus giving tesco more weight.

Everyone should answer how they feel I wouldn't want to infulance anyone but by giving a dissatisfied response your helping USDAW in these meetings and not tesco.

All the best.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lackofinterest on 28-01-23, 08:00AM
Quote from: Loki on 27-01-23, 07:27PMSurveys in general are a waste of time in my honest opinion. WMTY takes it to another level where it's both insulting and disingenuous. Especially when considering they are more often than not rolled out literally within a month prior to the company axing jobs and basically subjecting whatever colleagues are left to further exploitation.
Or maybe I'm just too much of a pessimist with Stockholm syndrome.
:thumbup:
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Seymee on 28-01-23, 12:15PM
Funny in my store. The SM who rarely talks to floor staff has spent the week going around addressing everyone by name, its made the situation worse for him as people are making a point of mentioning this in the comments section.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 2ndtimeround on 28-01-23, 01:28PM
It won't make the result any worse by leaving comments as they are only really read by the management team in store.
I guess it will depend on what he is really like as to wether he chooses to learn from them or revert to type afterwards.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 28-01-23, 04:01PM
Quote from: Loki on 27-01-23, 07:27PMSurveys in general are a waste of time in my honest opinion. WMTY takes it to another level where it's both insulting and disingenuous. Especially when considering they are more often than not rolled out literally within a month prior to the company axing jobs and basically subjecting whatever colleagues are left to further exploitation.
Or maybe I'm just too much of a pessimist with Stockholm syndrome.

Ah Loki, so good to have you back  :) always loved your very perceptive comments :thumbup:
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Truthtalker on 28-01-23, 05:52PM
It's sometimes easy to forget some of the good stuff. You may be having a bad day or week. I fed back my points on the feedback box. Tesco isn't perfect but I choose to work there. If I didnt, I wouldn't. Plenty of jobs out there that pay a similar hourly rate.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Truthtalker on 28-01-23, 06:15PM
I agree with this too


Quote from: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PMI don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Loki on 28-01-23, 06:41PM
Quote from: londoner83 on 24-01-23, 01:19PMJust complete the survey at home in the comfort of your own home away from any influences.

... bar alcohol that is. They say that's when one's honesty knows no bounds.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Whatevs on 28-01-23, 06:48PM
 :D
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lucgeo on 28-01-23, 09:04PM
@Loki

Missed you  :-*
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Redrobot on 29-01-23, 12:44PM
Is there anyway managers can identify who has slated them on the survey ?? Asking for a friend 🤣
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Kentuckyfriedchicken on 29-01-23, 07:48PM
Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



Why you feel that this deserves a Thread makes me chuckle.

If you don't want to fill it out then don't

For those advising others not to be pressured to fill it out. For goodness sake!!! It's a self service world, if  i had to question a simple survey, then I would consider myself a Karen of the world and should leave lol
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 29-01-23, 08:56PM
And yet you felt the need to post a reply.

The question was do all stores get this talk i.e is Tesco telling managers to do this or does the SM take it upon themselves to remind us what a great company it is.

As for filling it out, I never said I was going to. A lot of colleagues in my store have not been told it's not compulsory and do feel they have to do it. They also give all positive scores because they believe they will be singled out if they are truthful.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 2ndtimeround on 29-01-23, 09:39PM
Or alternatively they could actually believe the scores they are giving but simply would not want to have to explain their reasons to a naysayer that insists on been negative and trying to drag everyone else along with them 🤷🏻�♂️
It is after all an anonymous survey carried out by an external company.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Loki on 30-01-23, 07:44AM
Quote from: lucgeo on 28-01-23, 09:04PM@Loki

Missed you  :-*


Great to see you again @Lucgeo  :)
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Asdaprice on 31-01-23, 07:40AM
Store manager told us all to imagine it said his name instead of Tesco. As much as I respect him, that's not what it was asking. If he's been held to that standard it's unfair but it also doesn't reflect the issues in our store and it manipulates the data collected
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: tobybeecher on 31-01-23, 05:58PM
Word around my store is someone was watched doing their EVM writing negative feedback and was reported to management. Apparently the employee who wrote the feedback could be facing disciplinary action. Is that even allowed? That employee was beyond angry about it.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: FarmerFred on 31-01-23, 06:19PM
You can only he disciplined for breaching Tesco policies, providing negative feedback to an internal survey is not in itself against any policy that I am aware of. However, if the negative feedback contains any racism, sexism, harassment, bullying, etc. then it could result in disciplinary action, but it would be difficult to prove as the survey data itself is confidential and supposed to be anonymised. Thus the only evidence would be a statement from the observer, but their evidence is tainted by their breach of confidentiality policy in observing.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 31-01-23, 09:25PM
aye as farmer said, would be a breach of anonymity for it and ruin the reputation on the outside companies side's, no manager or anyone should be looking at another person doing their WMTY, it's supposed to be in confidence that you can speak your words with it (within reason) to show how you feel about the business and the information be passed on.. its scaremongering from the management team there and should definitely be reported.. should drop a colleague help ticket or something about it asking the policy surrounding it / who to contact for further investigation in reporting the safety of yourself and colleagues due to partaking in it.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: lucgeo on 01-02-23, 08:41AM
Quote from: tobybeecher on 31-01-23, 05:58PMWord around my store is someone was watched doing their EVM writing negative feedback and was reported to management. Apparently the employee who wrote the feedback could be facing disciplinary action. Is that even allowed? That employee was beyond angry about it.

Chinese whispers...probably started by a manager to worry people into only writing positive feedback!

So what would be the reason given for the disciplinary ???
During your PRIVATE & ANONYMOUS WMTY session, it was witnessed by (name) that you gave negative feedback  :o

Oh to be a fly on the wall of that disciplinary  ;D  ;D  ;D  :D  :D  :D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: fatlad on 01-02-23, 10:26AM
Anyone having trouble logging in to my tesco?
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 01-02-23, 11:22AM
Yeah - since before 5am on phone. Still can't.
No problems at all getting on MyTesco on Chromebook tho.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: fatlad on 01-02-23, 12:24PM
 :thumbup: 9
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Babs on 07-02-23, 02:53PM
I find that regardless of how honest you are, in the what matters to you... they always come up shining.
I never get to go into these meetings as I work twighlight shifts. Managers & store manager like to be gone by 5-6! Also means I never see my line manager, so I didn't feel like I could give positive feedback, where it asks about your line manager!
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 16-02-23, 03:15AM
I ALWAYS to WMTY / EVM. I can't stand that colleagues don't do it. People say "sure they won't do anything about it" and yes that's true, but because these people don't do the survey, and managers get the ones that love it to complete it, your stores go green for it, not red. That's why I encourage all colleagues to do it, they turn their heads when the survey goes red, it affects the SMs bonus.

Of course the scoring for the survey is questionable too, you have to go either "Strongly Disagree" or "Strongly Agree" for it to hold any substance.

The final question of the survey is "Do you think anything will be done as a result", I always answer No. The time we went red as a result of our survey they did actually get us into focus groups to try make our store better, which of course lasted about 2 weeks and back to square 1.

The survey is anonymous, I didn't have to use my login. I do however fill in all the details so it's fairly easy to pinpoint me, but it's nothing I haven't said to Team managers before.

Of course its also not a "I don't like this manager so I'm going on an attack", that'll just invalidate your argument.

In terms of people being asked in my store to complete it, managers will usually ask people who they know will do a good review, we only had posters and tabletoppers in the colleague room to promote it. I try to convince others to do it to give a more rounded picture.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: FarmerFred on 16-02-23, 04:34PM
The answers given in WMTY are aggregated so it's impossible to pinpoint who gave a particular set of answers - managers only get to see the overall scores, not that "Person A" answered "strongly disagree" to questions 1-3, "agree" to question 4 and identifies as a lesbian giraffe aged 90+. Obviously it can be easier to pin the textual answers/comments to a particular individual.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Batmanjo on 23-03-23, 10:54AM
Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



That 8% is nothing, don't forget you have already lost your 3% yearly bonus that they stopped times that by 3 years and you are now -1% then ask yourself did you actually get a rise ? on the other hand management still get their bonuses.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Davethebave on 23-03-23, 02:28PM
Managers didn't get a bonus last year. Every colleague got a covid thank you bonus. Apparently tesco didn't make enough to pay the managers bonus 🤷🏻�♂️
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: BritishRacingGreen on 23-03-23, 02:37PM
Did we ?
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 5fdp on 23-03-23, 03:22PM
Mgrs did get a bonus last year. I think it was 4% , if I remember correctly. 
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: General Thorn on 06-04-23, 01:55PM
Anyone know when the results of this are due out?
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 5fdp on 06-04-23, 03:47PM
Bonus for mgrs should be known by the end of next week, possibly Friday or Saturday. I've been told that it will be around 3% to 4% area. Mgrs on the lowest rate of pay, eg 26k will get a payrise in the area of 10% if they delivered a good year review. YOUR SM ALREADY HAS THE % INCREASES FOR MGRS NOW. BUT THEY ARNT TO GIVE OUT PRESCISE DETAILS JUST YET. Well deserved for mgrs putting up with watching staff get massive payrises in the last 3 years. However, the mgrs job role has changed and will put more pressure on them.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: Ashbeck on 06-04-23, 03:58PM
Quote from: General Thorn on 06-04-23, 01:55PMAnyone know when the results of this are due out?

EVM/WMTY results have been available for weeks.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: MerchMan007 on 06-04-23, 04:01PM
"Watching staff get massive payrises" ???

The only reason we have had the rises we have got is because the national minimum wage went up so much !!!
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 1982dave on 06-04-23, 04:10PM
Quote from: MerchMan007 on 06-04-23, 04:01PM"Watching staff get massive payrises" ???

The only reason we have had the rises we have got is because the national minimum wage went up so much !!!
you can tell they're a manager with a reply like that
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 1982dave on 06-04-23, 04:18PM
Watching staff get massive pay rises in 3 years well I've read some complete rubbish in my time now lets not forget the only reason staff have had pay rises is because the national living wage has increased as such that's a fact .. and managers job has become harder in what way because there was me seeing with my own eyes shift leaders doing rotas holidays running departments while the so called under valued manager doesn't even have to do a face to face review now ..  but don't forget this so called incredible 7% pay rise for the vast majority of people has been eaten up with the ongoing cost of living c**p i.e. rent, council tax, gas & electric so where's this pay rise going I think I'm possibly 10£ a month better off after them increases so whoopee.

But don't forget no one forced salary managers to take said jobs.
Title: Re: WMTY 2023
Post by: 5fdp on 06-04-23, 04:27PM
Always its easier to stand outside looking in and be critical. If you want more money either leave and get a better paid job or move up the management ladder to get better paid. Dont sit and moan about the cost of living, rent, gas blah,blah,blah do something about it.