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Title: Times to work cages
Post by: Mark calloway on 23-02-22, 12:02AM
Is there a set time to work a cage or dolley? Our manager is saying we have to pull our finger out and work harder so we can help another dept. We're already doing more 5han than  usual.  We can't physically do it any quicker
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: spike_pkh on 23-02-22, 12:28AM
There is no set time per cage, as each cage is different. A cage of toilet roll vs a cage of pills for example are very different jobs.

There are times for each section on how long they should take to complete though. Set by head office. I wouldnt know what they are though, you'd have to ask a manager to show you. Just beware about asking this, as I have seen in the past that it can give very tough targets to meet.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: 1man2jobs on 23-02-22, 12:34AM
Is this the same manager who denies breaks midshift? Tell them if you had a break between 4 and 5 you might have more energy. Anyhow there are many different factors to consider whether a cage takes several minutes or an hour to fill.

In regards to the estimated time that the managers receive on their workplan you will often find you have much more time to fill than what you are being told you have. Infact always challenge this as they will always lie about it.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 23-02-22, 09:35AM
There used to be something on Store Apps called Replenishment Scheduler or something like that.

I stopped looking at it when I once saw the less than half cage of cream cakes delivery needed something along the lines of an hour and a half to fill (excluding back stock) but a full cage of fish, which has more mods in our store, needed half an hour  :D.

We've had managers in the past who expected nine cages of long life to be done by 2am but they could spend 80% of their shift putting a cage of toilet rolls out  ;D
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 23-02-22, 10:27AM
ah yeah it's like the warehouse split, store gets 1 hour to split 20+ cages for the night fill lol...

they expect everything, just tell them to work it themselves, just throw a complaint in if need be, have a look at how long others do it, if they take longer, and you get pulled up, complain that it's favouritism, time how long it takes your manager :P
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: Hammer10 on 23-02-22, 03:09PM
If they want time scales of working cages then pay piece work rate.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: thor god of thunder on 28-02-22, 04:09PM
there used to be a sheet they printed off asa guide....I don't think that happens any more. it was always very misleading as they used to tell me it didn't include back stock anyway, plus it would assume the fill and face up had been done to a set standard anyway. they are also not allowed to compare one person against another (which is pretty stupid in my opinion) so really the speed you work is the speed you work.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 28-02-22, 04:25PM
Why can't they compare one to another?
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 28-02-22, 11:48PM
probably because of things like possibility of complaints regarding agism, sexism, racism (used to have a manager always pulled that card every time someone put a complaint against him in), health issues etc...  generally they expect men to do more than the women but can't particularly say it, like a heavier workload is "okay" for a male, but it's not for the opposite sex based on general structure... its all like thorn bushes... plenty of pr**k* but gotta avoid them lol.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: lucgeo on 01-03-22, 08:20AM
Quote from: TESLA on 28-02-22, 04:25PM
Why can't they compare one to another?

They can...it's called a capability study!
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: chris9997 on 01-03-22, 09:27AM
i think the problem is that some people would deliberatly take there time over a cage where as others would work a cage to the best of there speed, and although those who are spinning out the time on a cage think that its not noticed but a good manager will know if say barry can do a cage of say buiscuits in forty  minutes and john taking one hour and forty miutes there is possibly a problem.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: Redshoes on 02-03-22, 08:49AM
It's a matter of how much goes out too. If you work a cage and don't glance at shelf and just put to overs it's quicker than checking and filling. Also a cage high in promo stock for the next promo change is quick. There are so many variable to this. We split the cages in my store but the split is not alway right but even so a split cage is so much faster.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 02-03-22, 05:08PM
20 mins per cage regardless of if crisps or biscuits >:D

It depends on the condition of the shelfs when you enter the aisle.

Biscuits is a bad one for empty card on the shelf you can choose to get rid of it or just do what the majority do and ram half empty cases up the back of the shelf.

That said I wouldn't fill a biscuits aisle now for £200. Not good on the joints.

Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: lackofinterest on 02-03-22, 09:07PM
the ar**h*le who thought of this is welcome to fill the half cage of jars of spices or the half cage of small medicinal items in our store. good luck with the 20 minutes! pr**k!!
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 02-03-22, 09:44PM
The spices took me 40 mins one time.  Night fill in a large extra. :)
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: NorthernJ on 02-03-22, 09:58PM
We've always been under the impression that it's 20 seconds per case, including rotating whatever is on the shelf already, and that includes taking the product to the shelf from the cage too. Which makes sense with some items  like yogurts that sell fast and you're not rotating too much but not for most, like decanting all of ready meals and rotating them isn't 20 seconds per product at all.
Title: Re: Times to work cages
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 02-03-22, 10:22PM
Just do the bare minimum and let the managers work it out. There's a million reasons not to do as they dictate.  >:D