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Hi,
I'm a part-time flexible worker. My core hours are 10-4 Sunday, 4-10 Monday, and some core hours on a Wednesday and Thurs. As I work Mondays does that mean I have to work every bank holiday Monday? I was looking through the working hours April 2021 policy and it states....

"If you are a Part time flexible colleague you can have core
hours on a Sunday that are worked each week. You would
not however have an availability window or be required to
flex up on Sundays or Bank Holidays."

Does this mean it's basically tough luck if my core hours are on a Monday so I have to work all the bank holidays?

As you are contracted to Monday's you need to book holiday to be sure of having a bank holiday off.

Ok, thanks. I thought that was the case but wanted to check.

That's intersting at my store there are lots of staff contracted to Mondays who flat out refuse to work bank holidays, as they have been there since 1965 nobody does or says anything and they get away with it... result, others are hammered all day as it's always short staffed. Then the next day they all waltz in and complain that routines haven't been done or things left in a mess... wonder why., some of them don't even speak to the manager about it, they'll just not turn up on the day and send a message saying they decided to have the day off. It's taking the pee how a hardcore of staff do what they like and the remainder get all the work dumped on them, and no action from management

They dont have to, its only the recently recruited who are obliged to.

Those who joined after January 2009 can be made to work a certain amount of bank holidays, anyone who started before that has the right to say no and management can do nothing about it.

Do I have to work Sat 1st January 2022?  I'm contracted for Saturdays but wanted the day off as a BH.  My line manager says I can't as it's the Monday 3rd Jan that is the proper BH...??  I am part time flexi and I know that they're not "obliged" to let me have a BH but I thought 25/12 and 01/01 were considered my choice?

1st of january is new years day not the 3rd. nobody has to work new years day.the tesco bank holiday is actually the 1st not the 3rd. yes as you say its your choice. your line manager hasnt got a clue like a lot of them in our store

Quote from: Lavender girl on 14-07-21, 08:48PM
Do I have to work Sat 1st January 2022?  I'm contracted for Saturdays but wanted the day off as a BH.  My line manager says I can't as it's the Monday 3rd Jan that is the proper BH...??  I am part time flexi and I know that they're not "obliged" to let me have a BH but I thought 25/12 and 01/01 were considered my choice?

You do not have to work them. The confusion may be coming from sun 26th and Sun 2nd being moved to Monday 27th and Monday 3rd.
In previous years when this has happened colleagues who are contracted to the Sundays are given the option of booking these days off(like a bank holiday)

Bank holidays are like your normal holidays in that you have to put in a holiday request
To be off , and like all holidays should all be booked in by end of june

in almost 20 years i have never put in a holiday request for a bank holiday. i only put in a request if i want to work them which is almost never!!!

if you started before 2009 you dont have to request bank holidays off. they might want you to  request them but you don't have to

Quote from: expressman77 on 15-07-21, 07:08PM
Bank holidays are like your normal holidays in that you have to put in a holiday request
To be off , and like all holidays should all be booked in by end of june

This is true for the other bank holidays if the holiday process is being followed correctly.
Even if you have not requested or booked a holiday for Christmas, boxing day or new years day, you cannot be forced to work.

All I know, I have been invited to a massive new year eve party, so I might be able to get in for 12 on Jan the 1st but if they think I will be in a functional state they got another thing coming.

So I am contracted to a Sunday. If I put a holiday in for boxing day, can they refuse it?

no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.

Quote from: knowles2 on 22-07-21, 07:28PM
All I know, I have been invited to a massive new year eve party, so I might be able to get in for 12 on Jan the 1st but if they think I will be in a functional state they got another thing coming.

nobody can be forced to work january 1st!!!

Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:30PM
no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.

It's not just Tesco though, The government decrees bank holidays can't fall on a weekend as traditional working hours are Mon-Fri 9am-5.30pm, bank holidays are modelled around Saturday and Sunday being days off and so bank holidays must fall on a working day (when companies say it will be with you in 3 to 5 working days, that doesn't mean Saturday or Sunday.)

The dates are still significant though, the bank holiday isn't logically identical to the actual date so you can still have the dates of significance off.

Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-08-21, 04:30PM
no. nobody can be forced to work boxing day! boxing day is 26th december every year, no matter what day tosco choose as their bank holiday.

This is what I thought but my union rep is saying I need to work it.

then you need to stop paying union fees. your union rep is useless to you if they're telling you this. don't go in if you don't want to. i know i wouldn't. everybody is allowed 25th, 26th december and 1st january off. contact acas if necessary

Thank you.

Yep go in and tell them Lackofinterest says you don't have to so you aren't.

Don't forget to pop back and let us know how you get on.

If you are contracted to work on a Bank Holiday, do you have the option to take the day off as unpaid leave?

Quote from: forrestgimp on 24-08-21, 06:15PM
Yep go in and tell them Lackofinterest says you don't have to so you aren't.

Don't forget to pop back and let us know how you get on.

Wow! Forrest's a smart arse.

I've recently joined Tesco and am doing nights.

One of my nights is Friday into Saturday. How will this work with Good Friday? Will I be paid Bank Holiday premium for it?

Also, Saturday into Sunday will fall into Easter Sunday. My shift is 10pm until 6:15am. Do night staff still work on the Saturday into Sunday when it's Easter Sunday?

You'll get premium. Best o luck in your new appointment.

Regarding Saturday to Sunday shift, it's Your time off..

What happens with night shift staff on the Saturday night into Sunday on Easter Sunday. Are we still in working?

I've been at my store 16 years and we have always worked the sat into Easter Sunday. Never worked Easter sun into Mon. Don't know what other stores do but that is what we have always done .

I work nights and we always have Saturday and Sunday as our Bank Holidays over Easter, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day for Christmas, New Year's Eve, And Sunday for all other Bank Holidays.

Our store Sat & Sun Bank Holiday, staff working whatever they haven't booked off.

Bank holiday question; I work in Express, and we're only meant to run 4 CA shifts total on a bank holiday- 2 6am opens and 2 backshifts. My usual shifts on a Monday are a midshift, say 10-6pm, and a "first come, first serve" sign-up sheet has just gone up for the next few bank holidays, without anyone who usually works Mondays being asked first.

Am I able to insist on working my usual hours on those days, and failing that can I at least insist on being given a shift? I seem to recall my union rep in my last store saying that contracted workers should always have first refusal before it goes first come first serve.

Is it not still part of the holiday review about bank holidays ?that should of been done before 1st april?

Quote from: mama_bear2006 on 03-04-22, 06:28PM
What happens with night shift staff on the Saturday night into Sunday on Easter Sunday. Are we still in working?

Saturday and Easter Sunday ate not bank holidays so must work as normal unless
You have requested it off as holiday

Thank you - I've only just started so wasn't sure how the Saturday into Sunday shift would work as the store won't be open at all that day. So assume we just finish at our normal time on Easter Sunday.

Thank you for helping.

I don't know about other stores but we're asked if we either want to work the Saturday night into Sunday morning or Sunday night into Monday morning based on our primary department as we tend to have a Grocery delivery Saturday night or a Fresh delivery Sunday night.

If we wanted the day off it's either booked as a holiday or we can work the hours elsewhere in the same week.

Hey guys..I'm a newbie to VLH and I don't know how to start a new post so jumping on this post  :-[this is in regard to the queen's jubilee.. i work night-shift..in our store we've been told anyone who is contracted for the Friday is entitled to it off and if they work it they will get double time and a quarter..I work the Thursday night into the Friday and am entitled to nothing..how is this fair?? Does anyone know anything in regards to this??

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It's time and a quarter, not double time and a quarter. I believe you'll get the bank holiday rate for your hours from midnight until your finish time

Ahh right..I must've heard it wrong..time and a quarter is woeful don't know about anybody else's nightshift but I can't see many coming in to work for that!! Place will be empty:/ thankyou for replying:)

The jubilee for nightshift is the thurs into the fri. The bank holiday which normally lies at the end of May has been moved to the wed night into the Thursday. The Friday night is a normal night.

We have been told its the Friday night for the nightshift..that's why I thought it was unfair for anyone who worked the Thursday night into the Friday as it clearly states the celebrations start from the Thursday🤷‍♀️

Nights it's Wednesday and Thursday, it's the days before for it, for some reason it's the 2 days? But think only Thursday will get the payment, least that's what jj gather, yammer says Wednesday and Thursday anyhow and Friday for day staff.

I'm in Northern Ireland so don't know if it's any different..thanks for the info guys👍

Has something changed with bank holidays, was speaking to a colleague and apparently last bank holiday after dotcom pick was finished staff weren't allowed to go home and they had to do their contract. It's always been that staff would stay till the pick was finished then go home as it was a bank holiday.

For the jubilee bank holiday it is the Thursday night for nightshift, if you work it you get paid for the shift plus time & a quarter as you can't carry this bank holiday over to another time, you can have it off paid or work it but you have to be contracted to the Thursday night to get it

We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.

Yes that's what we were told.

Quote from: Hammer10 on 25-04-22, 08:02PM
We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.

you will get paid 1.25 for working it as you would a normal bank holiday plus you get paid normal time because its an extra bank holiday. if you don't work it you get paid for the day anyway. just think of it as any normal bank holiday day

Quote from: Gems on 24-04-22, 10:02PM
Hey guys..I'm a newbie to VLH and I don't know how to start a new post so jumping on this post  :-[this is in regard to the queen's jubilee.. i work nightshift..in our store we've been told anyone who is contracted for the Friday is intitled to it off and if they work it they will get double time and a quarter..I work the Thursday night into the Friday and am intitled to nothing..how is this fair?? Does anyone know anything in regards to this??

You didn't hear wrong. There was an article on ourtesco about the jubilee Bank Holiday saying this but then went missing the following week. Replaced with normal bank holiday rate.

Quote from: Hammer10 on 25-04-22, 08:02PM
We have been told if you work the Friday it's double time and a quarter.

This only applies if you are contracted to work Fridays.

Nobody is paid double time and a quarter,if your contracted on the friday ,you get paid if you take it iff or not,if you opt to work its time and a quarter on top of your friday pay,,,i believe for nights its the thursday night,as per usual its probably a grey area from store to store

"if you opt to work it's time and a quarter on top of your Friday pay"

Does that not equate to x2.25 if you work it  :question:

What night are the night team getting off for the jubilee ?

Nights is Thursday, Days is Friday.

The phrase "double time and a quarter" is confusing depending on how it's said.

Saying "It's DoubleTime and a quarter" would mean 2.25

"It's Double. Time and a quarter" would mean 2.5

Some in my store are convinced it's the latter including one manager that's been getting people in on that assumption......

In my store Thursday night is the 'Monday ' and Fri night is the free night off. Is this the same for all stores?

shouldn't be, I believe the official thing is "Thursday and Friday" since they are both bank holiday listings, but tesco only recognises Friday,  and w&p recognises nights as the night before... Least with holiday policy anyhow regarding them.

@nomad ,it equates to 1.25 if you work it,, you get 1 days pay if your contracted a friday and sat at home

glad somebody else sees it as it is!!

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 13-05-22, 04:50PM
Nights is Thursday, Days is Friday.

Do you work in a store on work and pay system ?. Does your store have  an "in store arrangement on nights bank hols"

Is there any other store on work and pay  system who still take there bank holidays on the bank holiday night rather than the night before .

is there anybody else who is off Thursday and Friday night for the Jubilee weekend.
Thanks All .

Our store doesn't have an arrangement, it is on work and pay though.  The answers on yammer are "The email we received with clarification says for night colleagues it is to be Thurs 2nd into Fri 3rd." and there's also a thing of how to code people working Friday who are contracted to it, paid at double time and and a quarter.

@Hoover the nights bank holidays are Wednesday & Thursday, The Wednesday night is end of May bank holiday that was moved and Thursday is the extra bank holiday for queens jubilee if contracted to Thursday nights you either take it off or work it and paid for shift plus time and a quarter as can't carry this bank holiday over to another time

Is it definitely weds night and Thurs night for the night crew? We've been told Thurs night and Fri night!

From searching, its Wednesday and Thursday for Nights, as Thursday is a Normal Bank holiday, and Friday is queens jubilee (special), So from the way it works for nights according to colleague helps is:

"it's the Thursday night is the "special bank holiday" as the majority of the hours for Thursdays shift fall on the Friday."

taken from yammer, as i said in a previous one, this is another post about asking and a confirmation.

Thursday being a normal bank holiday comes out of holiday entitlement and follows normal holiday procedures of may be required to work if not enough unless joining before X date, so Wednesday would be that for Nights while Thursday is the day for nights.

annoying if you want to be out all friday etc so become ill people. lol

as for christmas the same information with the paid abscences information said about falling on sunday 25th, so its a "Normal day", and they move it to tuesday 27th.

Quote from: StinkyPoo on 15-05-22, 05:40PM
Is it definitely weds night and Thurs night for the night crew? We've been told Thurs night and Fri night!

how I understand it is if your on work and pay its Wednesday and Thursday. the old was would have been Thursday and Friday.

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 12-05-22, 08:29PM
Nobody is paid double time and a quarter,if your contracted on the friday ,you get paid if you take it iff or not,if you opt to work its time and a quarter on top of your friday pay,,,i believe for nights its the thursday night,as per usual its probably a grey area from store to store

this whole double time and a quarter irritates the hell out of me...its not its simple as that. how many people actually just work contracted hours...they don't. for example 4 hours contracted on stock control but always work say 8. so that person will get paid 4 hours contract and 8 and 1.25....so thats not double time and a quarter

So just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.

My wage slip shows just £40 for the bank holiday which doesn't seem like 2.25 pay. Worked both the Thursday and Friday as contracted so don't know how they can mess that up

Quote from: Alvor the grear on 23-06-22, 08:24AMSo just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.

When you booked your annual leave and BH entitlements, was there an extra BH day added to your entitlement allowance? Usually a special event is added as an extra day allowance to your total. If this was the case for the jubilee BH then it could be coded wrongly as AL instead of BH. Check with your manager how it was coded, you should also have an annual BH allowance on your wage slip, is it one extra than usual?

Anyone contracted to work the Friday who booked it off should have had it coded as 'Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday'. This shouldn't be taken out of your allowance if they've coded it correctly.

The Thursday 'Late May Bank Holiday' is the only day/hours that should've been deducted from our allowances.

Several of us who are contracted to work Friday seem to think the incentive to work said day isn't actually in our pay  :thumbdown:

Wage slip showing £37 for working 14 hours jubilee bank holiday. Worked the Thursday and Friday. I work nights but speaking to people on days they have been paid a lot more.

On work and pay bank holidays show in a different way then you might be used to:

Contracted hours that you work on a bank holiday will just be included in Basic Hours pay (1.0).
And then you will receive the premium as Bank Holiday Premium (0.25).
Any overtime (extra hours above contract or hours on a none contracted day) show as Bank Holiday Overtime day/night (1.25).

In the jubilees friday case: all contracted hours on that day should have been paid in your basic pay (1.0) and if you worked, with a bank holiday premium of 1.25 (instead of 0.25)
All Overtime (extra hours above contract or hours on a none contracted day) on the jubilee was paid (1.25).

Hopefully this will help you to figure out if you have been paid correctly and if not flag it up with the relevant people!

Looking on yammer, it seems alot of night staff are having issues with the payments not being correct.

So mine worked out as 9.5 hours bank holiday pay total £41.78, so £4.40 per hour extra.

One of our managers told us the bank holiday pay for nights doesn't seem to have been done correctly. People who were contracted and didn't work were paid the same as those who were contracted and did work! Shambles as usual!

if tosco are gonna pay you for having a day off why work it???. i'm not surprised there's c**k ups! some people will just never learn 8-)

It seems to be a problem only for night shift workers, not surprising really considering the companies main priority is pride month.

wtf is pride month ???

I knew they would mess this up.  Had 15hrs BH and got paid £50 quid. Same with all the night staff in store.

I read on reddit that some of the jubilee payment was added on to the base pay, anyone can confirm this?

Quote from: lackofinterest on 23-06-22, 03:56PMwtf is pride month ???

Probably where everyone dresses as a rainbow 🌈 and embraces every diversity on the planet, whilst leaving boring old joe bloggs to fend for themselves !

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 23-06-22, 11:52AMAnyone contracted to work the Friday who booked it off should have had it coded as 'Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday'. This shouldn't be taken out of your allowance if they've coded it correctly.

The Thursday 'Late May Bank Holiday' is the only day/hours that should've been deducted from our allowances.

Several of us who are contracted to work Friday seem to think the incentive to work said day isn't actually in our pay  :thumbdown:

yes you are spot on should of been coded as 'paid absence- additional bank holiday' this clearly has not happened to me or some others in my store🙁 I wonder how many tesco employees nationwide have been affected? To clarify I work days. I'm sure tesco will make out it was an honest mistake (human error) as is often the case when it financially benefits Tesco

more than likely mickey mouse managers who havent got a clue and have coded it as a bank holiday :-X

Quote from: Preacherpauly on 23-06-22, 04:07PMI knew they would mess this up.  Had 15hrs BH and got paid £50 quid. Same with all the night staff in store.

your night manager obviously doesn't know how to do their job properly. no problem with mine because they know what they're doing.coded as paid absence :)

Thry were all supposed to be done automatically according to comms, but according to yammer, Many stores have had night pay paid at 0.25 times instead of the correct amount.

Copied from Yammer
1.
**ISSUE WITH JUBILEE CORE HOUR PAYMENTS FOR NIGHT WORKERS**
We have identified that there has been an underpayment for night colleagues who worked core hours from 2nd June into 3rd June, who will have received x1.25 payment for the hours worked on 3rd June as part of that shift, rather than x2.25.
This issue does not affect core hours worked 3rd June into 4th June, or core hours worked on 3rd June only.
We are centrally identifying which colleagues have been impacted and will be correcting these directly with payroll. No action is required at store level.
Please accept our apologies for this system issue.
2.
For those who like more technical detail, worked contracted hours submitted for this overnight shift were sent as a shift total from TAM to payroll, all dated 2nd (when shift started), but payroll was set to pay the higher premium rate only for hours submitted as being worked on 3rd.

Quote from: lucgeo on 23-06-22, 09:15AM

Quote from: Alvor the grear on 23-06-22, 08:24AMSo just got my wage slip and Iam a little puzzled, I was on holiday the week commencing 29th may (jubilee week) and wage slip shows as 30 hours holiday to cover 30 contracted hours. I'm contracted to a Friday should this have come out of my annual leave? Or has this been coded incorrectly? I was under the impression friday was a 'special bank holiday' I'm hoping someone can shed light on the matter.

When you booked your annual leave and BH entitlements, was there an extra BH day added to your entitlement allowance? Usually a special event is added as an extra day allowance to your total. If this was the case for the jubilee BH then it could be coded wrongly as AL instead of BH. Check with your manager how it was coded, you should also have an annual BH allowance on your wage slip, is it one extra than usual?

There is no such thing as holidays and bank holidays on the Work+Pay system. Both are in one pot and are coded in hours now not days. 
03 June should have been coded as Paid Absence - Additional Bank Holiday and therefore would not have come out of holiday entitlements.

Well that's working out a treat then  8-)

Appreciate the update on systems  :thumbup:

Apparently those of us affected will see the payment in July's pay packet according to my TM.

Part of me wishes they'd not bothered now given that HMRC will be the only ones to benefit out of it!

wouldn't have been a problem if nobody had worked it. they we're paying you to be off! grab it with both hands and take the day off!!!

Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-06-22, 04:02PMmore than likely mickey mouse managers who havent got a clue and have coded it as a bank holiday :-X

Managers don't process wages, not yet anyway. Wages clerk does things like this, in large store formats anyway.

my manager books my hols onto the system :)

Management are supposed to book everything to do with time off, so they go into the system, click, add length, drop down for type of absence etc, comms gave them all the information.. One problem was that comms came down that anyone working didn't have to add anything extra and it would do it automatically... Which ofcourse ends in problems..

I am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.

Id ask them where it is,if you wernt contracted to friday it was time and a quarter,if you was promised then they owe you

never believe store managers or senior team. my experience is they will lie to you to get what they want >:D

You've been scammed extrastore. Nobody on the shop floor gets double time anymore. You'll get an extra 25% p.h for working Bank holidays, so the additional £12 is correct. I bet they all had a good laugh about it afterwards. Despicable management. >:(

Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.

best to confide in a long serving colleague next time rather than believe what a manager tells you!!

Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.

Jubilee day was full pay for your contracted hours plus time and a quarter for the hours actually worked. As you are not contracted for the Friday you would only have been eligible for the standard bank holiday rate of time and a quarter. There should have been posters up in store and cards on the tables in your colleague room explaining this, my guess is that when your SM said double time that they weren't aware that you aren't contracted to Friday & therefore ineligible for the extra pay. That said, 5.5 hours at time and a quarter should result in more than £12 extra take home unless there's something else different such as the recent introduction of the increased National Insurance rates.

Quote from: extrastore on 25-06-22, 05:51PMI am not contracted for Fridays and was promised by the SM that if I worked Jubilee Friday I would be on double time. Just checked my payslip and I have been paid at time and a quarter. My take home pay is £12 more than last month for a 5.5 hour shift, that is £2 an hour.

SM has had your pants down.

Lets see if they have sorted the night workers jubilee money this month.

Does anyone know if large stores are getting Monday off for the queens funeral? And how does this affect nightshift ie sunday into Monday? I believe stores are closing on Monday.

I heard from my TM friend that large stores will be open til 5pm (In England) on 19th September.

Larger stores will be closed Monday. Smaller ones will open from 5pm.

That's what I heard am wondering how that affects night shift workers?

Nights should have the option to have Sunday night off if store closed Monday

Sunday will be a Bank Holiday. If you work it at night, midnight becomes time and a quarter. If you off you get pay your normal wage.

yes sunday night is voluntary, where shops are open ie convenience stores in central london and windsor those who are scheduled to work and choose to do so will receive time plus time and a quarter for hours worked. those who are not scheduled to work and volunteer to do so will be paid time and a quarter for hours worked, those scheduled to work and choose not to will receive a paid days leave.

 

Night team screwed over again lol

It's good to see people are stating that Sunday night is the bank holiday before any official Comms have come down :-X

Well official Comms have now come down and the Monday night is the bank holiday for night teams and will be the paid absence.
Sunday night is business as usual for the night teams.

Quote from: NightAndDay on 13-09-22, 01:41PMI heard from my TM friend that large stores will be open til 5pm (In England) on 19th September.

Well considering you are really important at HO, I'd have thought you would have known what Tesco were opening, without asking a friend! :D

On ourtesco site in collegue help,search under queens funeral for clarification

Night Colleagues in Stores (Large & Convenience)

Sunday 18th into Monday 19th September will be classed as the bank holiday.  Colleagues who are contracted to work this shift will not be required to come in and will be paid for the entire shift as normal.

Where a night colleague works any hours between midnight on Sunday 18th March and midnight on Monday 19th March they will be paid their normal contractual pay (if Monday is a normal working day), plus time and a quarter for any hours that are worked during that period.

The night of Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th September is classed as a normal working day, although the bank holiday premium will be paid for hours worked until midnight on the Monday as described above

It came down on Comms centre after 17.00, that the Sunday 18th into Monday 19th will continue as normal, and Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th will be classed as the bank holiday.And will be classed as the paid absence.

Where a colleague works on the Monday night into the Tuesday, they will be paid their normal hourly rate and in addition to this from 00.00 Monday 19th September to 23.59 Tuesday 20th September, they will be paid the special bank holiday premium (time + time and a quarter).


Looks like either someone has come to their own conclusion and posted it in our Tesco or they have screwed up!

Ourtesco is tescos official collegue help,im sure it said updated 17,42pm ,so who is right?anyone know?

Have seen both guide from communication centre says Monday to Tuesday for nights Bank hol.

Ourtesco.com colleague help says Sunday to Monday https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5940626965788-Her-Majesty-The-Queen-s-Funeral

Usdaw also say Sunday to Monday.

Edit they've took out night shift just now so looks like Monday to Tuesday is correct

Its Sunday into Monday. New communication coming out tomorrow. Only tesco can c**k a simple thing up. But it is Sunday into Monday. Trust me I'm a doctor.

Ourtesco updated 8pm.removed night worker bit,says bhol monday for store collegues,distribution list on thrre also

Monday night into Tuesday night off for our night team.

Confirmed by our management tonight.

Nights info has been taken out of official briefing pack so expect clarification will come down today.

Does anyone know how pfs that are with an extra store are affected? It doesn't mention in that article that dairyfresh linked above  :(

Quote from: Stitch on 14-09-22, 03:32AMDoes anyone know how pfs that are with an extra store are affected? It doesn't mention in that article that dairyfresh linked above  :(

PFS staff screwed over AGAIN! Normal trading hours.

According to briefing pack pfs are to close
If anyone has yammer the briefing pack is in this thread
https://www.yammer.com/uk.tesco.com/threads/1913207866867712?message_id=1913207866867712

Quote from: 5fdp on 13-09-22, 08:14PMIts Sunday into Monday. New communication coming out tomorrow. Only tesco can c**k a simple thing up. But it is Sunday into Monday. Trust me I'm a doctor.

This is correct. The initial Tesco Comms/briefing pack that came down is to be amended to Sunday night being the Bank Holiday NOT the Monday night. This will be confirmed today.

The communication from the Usdaw National Officer is correct which states the Bank Holiday for nights being the Sunday night.

Typical mistake by Tesco.

Can anyone help with clarification on being paid if you don't work it when scheduled? Work in express and our sm trying to say that if you have it off it's out of your holiday allowance yet everything says it's a paid absence like the jubilee 🤷�♀️

It will not affect your holiday entitlement.  Its in the pack that came down for mgrs. So he is telling a fib.

Quote from: 5fdp on 14-09-22, 07:44AMIt will not affect your holiday entitlement.  Its in the pack that came down for mgrs. So he is telling a fib.

See im a shift leader and I've seen every document to do with it already so I was convinced I was right, then he comes out with that and you doubt yourself, especially when they're more senior than you you'd like to think they know what the hell they're talking about! Said straight away he's lying or he's thick! Me and a colleague politely pulled him up on it on the group chat and he's still not having it so a bit of a more direct approach now then :)

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5940626965788-Her-Majesty-The-Queen-s-Funeral.

Night Colleagues in Stores (Large & Convenience)
Monday 19th into Tuesday 20th September will be classed as the bank holiday.  Colleagues who are contracted to work this shift will not be required to come in and will be paid for the entire shift as normal.

Where a night colleague works any hours between Midnight on Monday and 23:59 on Monday they will be paid their normal contractual pay (if Monday is a normal working day), plus time and a quarter for any hours that are worked during that period.

The night of Sunday 18th into Monday 19th September is classed as a normal working day, although the bank holiday premium will be paid for hours worked from midnight on the Monday as described above.

updated today 9:30.

Well that contradicts the previous post stating that Sunday into Monday is the bank holiday

The company has now said that mon into tues is the bank holiday. Sunday is a normal night. 😁

Quote from: dairyfresh on 14-09-22, 05:18AMAccording to briefing pack pfs are to close
If anyone has yammer the briefing pack is in this thread
https://www.yammer.com/uk.tesco.com/threads/1913207866867712?message_id=1913207866867712

Oh I can't see that....apparently I don't have clearance (never got on with yammer lol) but thank you

I've been on holiday and work nights reading the posts so is officially Sun/Mon or Mon/Tue? It's just a bit of a mess.

Monday into Tuesday.

It just doesn't make sense to have BH Mon/Tue because if big stores are closed all day Monday then there be no delivery Sunday night? especially fresh.

Quote from: T.C.1 on 14-09-22, 01:52PMIt just doesn't make sense to have BH Mon/Tue because if big stores are closed all day Monday then there be no delivery Sunday night? especially fresh.

Sunday night will be a normal working night.

Its pathetic that the express stores have to open at 5pm.

Quote from: dairyfresh on 13-09-22, 04:57PMyes sunday night is voluntary, where shops are open ie convenience stores in central london and windsor those who are scheduled to work and choose to do so will receive time plus time and a quarter for hours worked. those who are not scheduled to work and volunteer to do so will be paid time and a quarter for hours worked, those scheduled to work and choose not to will receive a paid days leave.

 

They will also get extra holiday for working bank holiday

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 10:53AMWell that contradicts the previous post stating that Sunday into Monday is the bank holiday

I don't understand how you come home without sleep at 8am Monday morning to watch funeral at 11 then not go to work Monday night. Am I missing something?

The complete opposite of what was said yesterday.

Does anyone have a definitive answer yet? Nobody seems to know...our store have been told there's no night crew on Sunday into Monday yet several on here are saying the bank holiday is Monday into Tuesday...I've seen 2 'official' notices stating 2 different days so what Shift is the bank holiday? This will end up being an absolute shambles at this rate.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 14-09-22, 08:22PMDoes anyone have a definitive answer yet? Nobody seems to know...our store have been told there's no night crew on Sunday into Monday yet several on here are saying the bank holiday is Monday into Tuesday...I've seen 2 'official' notices stating 2 different days so what Shift is the bank holiday? This will end up being an absolute shambles at this rate.

Monday into Tuesday..

Sunday night is a normal working night.

we were told there will be no deliveries to stores on monday due to distribution closing for the day,stores may experience a delay in getting deliveries on tuesday,if this is the case then our store would have no delivery for nights to work mon into tues,so it makes sense for them not to be in

Quote from: Bobmay on 14-09-22, 02:52PMThey will also get extra holiday for working bank holiday

The extra payment is in lieu of an extra holiday

Presumably then staff who don't ordinarily work Monday nights will be able to claim a day back in lieu just like regular holidays?

@duff sorry it doesnt work like that,its not a holiday as such,its to give people working on the day of the queens funeral a chance to pay their respects and watch it,if your not contracted you can watch it

We've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

And this is why they changed it all years ago...at one time if you weren't contracted to a BH, with the majority being a Monday, you didn't get the extra time allowance. Those not contracted could work for double time and a day in lieu...I used to bank mine and was averaging 8 weeks hol per year!

Then they introduced a fifth of your working week in time allowance, which became complicated in getting the hours back, and some more corrupt managers who had a colleague on a short day due to the allowance, weren't including their allocated breaks as owing, so someone on a 9 hour shift was getting less breaks due to less hours worked in the shift, and not the 1.50 owed! I think the BH allocation is the best idea.

Most of the stores are closed on the Monday, much like Christmas & Easter Sunday, so the same rules should apply.

If you aren't contracted and end up working, you'll get time and a quarter (just like the Platinum Jubilee).

If you've booked the day off as holiday prior, then it's changed to a Paid Absence - Extra Bank Holiday and those colleagues will get to use their day holiday again.

I have the 19th as a "booked holiday" from months ago -- so im glad get to use it again.

i was off last week due to illness and said to my boss im happy to work 19th if they can swap my holiday to when i was off (only contracted to 7 hours so i get NO sick pay at all even though im covering sundays for almost a year its not on my contract - (as its maternity leave cover  not permanent)

i was worried that now we are closed and its a day off i would LOOSE my holiday as all the managers seem clueless what will happen to people on booked holidays as im the only one in store with that day booked off anyway!

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!

I worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

wow! thats poor! every single collegauge who worked that day (except me or anyone who wasn't contracted that day) got it - if it was a contracted shift i would keep nagging them and say you will get the union involved to seek legal action against missing pay (union may be useless half the time but tesco do seem to get some things moving to "avoid" the union being involved)

As i even got it in email that it was double time and quarter (but I didn't qualify due to not contracted day) - if i kept the emails i would have posted it so you can use it as evidence but i delete them after i read them as half of their emails are just boasting about profits

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 15-09-22, 08:04AM@duff sorry it doesnt work like that,its not a holiday as such,its to give people working on the day of the queens funeral a chance to pay their respects and watch it,if your not contracted you can watch it

What about those working nihtj shift on sunday.As they are only there for few hours until it is monday.

Quote from: person7 on 15-09-22, 01:01PM

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!

That why I dont break my back when working at Tesco.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

You might've received it in August. A fair few of us experienced issues and had to wait for it  ???

@bobmay maybe thats why there trying to get you onto day shift

Is stock control broken in your store?i havent seen a grocery osi sticker since july,

Stock Control is dead now. Grocery only happens once every 2 weeks now for 3 hours ish.

Stock control was on a slippery slope of decline when they went to central control!

Hi there!  I have off Monday / Tuesday, I work on twighlight (4:00 p.m. -00:30 a.m.).  Am I entitled to an extra day off for the Queen's funeral?

No such thing as Stock Control now, just a job title until October when they will be covering everything else

Quote from: Moneyrice on 16-09-22, 07:53PMHi there!  I have off Monday / Tuesday, I work on twighlight (4:00 p.m. -00:30 a.m.).  Am I entitled to an extra day off for the Queen's funeral?

if your "Contracted" Shift, Not Overtime, is Monday then Yes, and you'll be paid 2.25x premium for 4pm to midnight. it's only the hours inside of 00:00 to 23:59 with Monday that'll count so you won't get 30 minutes of it, and obviously the break entitlement in there too so that's also a factor.

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 16-09-22, 02:35PM@bobmay maybe thats why there trying to get you onto day shift

They try to get me to move to morning and evening it will not work.I know their game is to remove as much staff as possible than remove nights and give the remaining two options change to morning evening or redundancy. I will be taking redundancy and not coming back to Tesco.

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 16-09-22, 10:36AM

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

You might've received it in August. A fair few of us experienced issues and had to wait for it  ???

No I've checked my pay right back to June and I never received it, several in my store say they never received it either whilst a few said they did so who knows what's happened. I've asked for it to be investigated because it's not chump change we're taking about here

Yeah make sure you've got let's talks and a wage query form copy in your file, they can do a bacs transfer instantly / have it paid on next payday so its definitely something to investigate and raise a grievance if need be.. They'll soon want someone's head for it.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 08:23PMI worked the Jubilee as it was my contracted shift, I most certainly didn't get double time and a quarter, some of my colleagues have said they did but I didn't see any extra. My manager said they'd look into it, I've asked several times whether I should have had time back or extra pay but as of yet I've still had no answer, no money, and no time back.

If you work nights then you would have got it the month after because they cocked it up.

Quote from: Bobmay on 16-09-22, 04:07AM

Quote from: person7 on 15-09-22, 01:01PM

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 15-09-22, 09:52AMWe've been told that those working the bank holiday will receive the normal pay for their shift plus time and a quarter on top...if that's true then surely those of us not contracted should get something...

Our store is closed entirely anyway on 19th even managers aren't going in..

BUT one thing that annoyed me was during the queens jubilee.. EVERYONE was getting DOUBLE time and quarter.. but because I wasn't contracted to that day. I just got standard pay! - and I agreed to it BEFORE I found out -- otherwise I would told them to stuff it if I'm getting paid half what everyone else is getting.

No managers were in so I took extra breaks as "compensation" -

I mean why should I do two departments by myself overworking myself on basic time and quarter wage when everyone on the tills or in their own department got to sit and chat with each other not much to do and got paid double time and quarter!! its a quiet store on bank holidays so not many customers but seeing all my colleagues, moving slowly, chatting and having laugh and I'm on my own other side of the store doing 4 peoples jobs with no extra pay!

last time I do that!

That why I dont break my back when working at Tesco.

Yep, doesnt matter if we are down staff or they send in loads of delivery, I don't work any harder than normal. Do these people that do get extra pay or rewards......no they don't so whats the point.

PreacherPauly - it's called 'job satisfaction'. Some of us actually enjoy what we do and give it our all - #workethic

#mug!  8-)

There's a balance to strike between being a lazy do as little as possible type and being taken for a fool. Personally I have found it better to be busy as the time goes by quicker, whereas dragging my heels slows the day right down.

I always preferred to be occupied to pass the day quicker, BUT only doing what I was paid to do.

If you're allowed to do the job you're paid to do, in the time allotted to that task, you will be kept busy your whole shift, you'll get the job satisfaction of having done the job you're paid to do properly :thumbup:

Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 08:59AM#mug!  8-)

Thank you. I shall ensure your description is on my CV for future reference.

Edit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)

 :thumbup:  :thumbup:  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 04:09PMEdit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)

Edit: #HappilyContentedlySmug
Just my own person expressing my own opinion living my own life - but that doesn't seem to be what people like you can accept. Not manipulated, no unpaid extra hours, extremely busy home/social life, favourite colour is red, I don't jump but I do run 5K every morning.

What's the expression, sod you jack I'm alright.

Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 20-09-22, 05:55PM

Quote from: lucgeo on 20-09-22, 04:09PMEdit...#smug

You're thinking of leaving already ??? Why ??? You're doing so well ;)

Don't forget to include in your Curriculum Vitae ...enjoys manipulation, lots of extra unpaid hours, boring home/social life...favourite colour is brown and can jump extra super duper high on demand  :)

Edit: #HappilyContentedlySmug
Just my own person expressing my own opinion living my own life - but that doesn't seem to be what people like you can accept. Not manipulated, no unpaid extra hours, extremely busy home/social life, favourite colour is red, I don't jump but I do run 5K every morning.

Wake...wake...wake...and you're back in the room  ;)

There's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.

Quote from: BritishRacingGreen on 19-09-22, 06:26PMPreacherPauly - it's called 'job satisfaction'. Some of us actually enjoy what we do and give it our all - #workethic

Job satisfaction for being an donkey good luck. Some love to work as donkeys than complain when others dont accept that.

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 20-09-22, 07:39PMThere's nothing back breaking in filling a shelf there are dinosaurs in this business though, even though you get less stock, less stock holding, they think an aisle they've always done is their job and that's it, no place within Tesco for those kind of people, unless managers let them.

Managers can break their own back I will not. Only a donkey would accept breaking their back for peanuts.  Then complain when others don't accept it.

What is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

 :thumbup:  Tesco love a brainwashed Zombie or two.           

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.

And they're probably right though.

Quote from: Preacherpauly on 22-09-22, 11:40AM

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Them they start moaning to the managers how others are not working hard enough.

They are mug. Wait until they become old age and complaining about back pain. They want to break their back working like donkeys don't by me don't complain when others won't

Quote from: newguy20 on 21-09-22, 07:08PM

Quote from: Bobmay on 21-09-22, 10:54AM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 21-09-22, 07:27AMWhat is back breaking about filling a shelf?your not building st pauls, and its monkeys and peanuts not donkeys

Some people over work themselves like donkeys.Being paid peanuts for the work they do. That is fine by me.If they want to work 30 cages an night four sections cleaning talking delivery that up to them.Just makes them look like an mug.

Thing is. If the company is dedicated to the staff and is generally ok, then people will put their back into it and get the job done... if they are suddenly short staffed they'll push themselves to deliver.
However. When it's a shitstorm from one minute to the next, why bother?? all goodwill has evaporated.

Not my problem if Tesco dont hire staff I will not be breaking my back I will do whatever I can do. The managers themselves threaten people who leave than complain about work not being done.

Only work hard for companies that care about staff and recognises it, Tesco is an employer of attrition, they promote on needs of the business firstly and capability lastly, we are in the midst of an economic downturn very similar to the great depression, there will be more staff chasing fewer management roles. You could be working every day giving it your all for years before you'd get a look in for promotion. It is much more economically viable and easier to just apply for management vacancies at a competitor.

Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).  .Admin.

I agree I worked with people who worked so hard doing 4 people jobs staying behind later 7 hours extra then coming in early missing on sleep.  They did this to get position of manager yet weren't given it.  It doesn't matter how hard they worked they never got the position.

Is Tuesday the 27th December a BH for Tesco?

If we're contracted Monday night( boxing day) do we have to come in?

For days, its the Monday / Tuesday, For Nights its the Saturday / Sunday, since Bank Holidays for Nights are from the Night BEFORE the bank holiday, So 24th into 25th, and 25th into 26th are Nights,  and 27th / 28TH are days.

Same for the week after for New year

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/360059347891-UK-Bank-Holidays

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/5657036418972

@oldfashionedplayer christmas eve not a bank holiday, our night team does 4pm-10pm christmas eve if were scheduled to work ,wether you work day or nights sunday is never a bank holiday,,not sure why youd think nights bhols 2 days before days bhols

For nights...sat bh, sun hol and mon bh. Very similar to last yr. 3 night break. However the bh payment only kicks in at midnight.

Here is some of a newsletter from the union back in September about Xmas working arrangements.

Christmas Working Arrangements

At the time of writing, the Christmas Working arrangements had not yet been communicated to stores. This is expected to happen in Tesco week 34 (week commencing 17 October). However, we thought it would be useful to outline some general principles around Christmas and New Year working.

New Year's Day
If stores are open, working on Sunday 1 January will be voluntary for all staff. Where staff are contracted to work on a Sunday and do not want to, they will have the option to work their hours at a different time in the week, take holiday, take a personal day, take the day unpaid (if this is the colleagues preference).

Night Staff
The night prior to the designated Bank Holiday is treated as the voluntary shift.
In addition, in the same way that Christmas Day and New Year's Day are voluntary for day staff, even though they are not the designated Bank Holidays this year, the Saturday into Sunday shifts (Christmas Eve into Christmas Day and New Year's Eve in to New Year's Day) will be voluntary for night staff with the same options as above i.e. staff can take holiday or make time up etc.
Some stores may start the Christmas Eve night shift early, to enable night teams to finish early.

Pay
Bank Holiday premium is paid for hours worked between 00:00 and 23:59 on the designated Bank Holiday (which this year will be moving from the Sundays, as set out above).
Seasonal Working Arrangement Meetings
Managers will start to hold seasonal working arrangement meetings with staff from the end of October.

Voluntary Working
Working on Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Year's Day is voluntary for all members of staff, regardless of when they started with Tesco. 2 January is also voluntary in Scotland. The exception would be for anyone employed on a contract that specifically states they will be required to work these days.

Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve
Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve are normal working days. Staff wanting time off will have to book it from their holiday entitlement, use their Personal Day or agree a shift swap. These options would need to be agreed to by their Manager.

Moving the Bank Holidays
As Christmas Day and New Year's Day will fall on Sundays this year, the designated Bank Holiday for Christmas Day will move to Tuesday 27 December and for New Year's Day will move to Monday 2 January (in Scotland it will move to Tuesday 3 January). The transfer of the Bank Holiday from Sunday to the next standard working day
is in line with Tesco's usual practice when a Bank Holiday falls on Sunday.
The usual Bank Holiday working arrangements will apply to the moved designated Bank Holidays of 27 December and 2 January (3 January in Scotland) – working on these days will be voluntary for all staff.

Christmas Day
All Tesco stores will be closed on 25 December. However, if there is any need for staff to be in store this will be on an entirely voluntary basis.
Staff who are contracted to work on Sunday will have the following options:
● work their hours at a different time in the week;
● take a day's holiday;
● take a personal day; or
● take the day unpaid (if the day is taken unpaid, this must be the colleague's choice rather than it being forced on them as the only option).

Quote from: 5fdp on 15-11-22, 08:53AMFor nights...sat bh, sun hol and mon bh. Very similar to last yr. 3 night break. However the bh payment only kicks in at midnight.

Is this correct or do nightstaff have to work Boxing Day as the night before is the holiday?

As per last year, night staff have the option to use up a holiday on the 25th, And the 1st or work some other time or take as unpaid. Night mgrs should stop getting so uptight about it. This is company policy. If  they can't get a shift together for 3 nights so be it. Tesco wants you to have family time so have it.

The personal day is it included in your overall holiday hours or separate?

personal day only shows when its taken, its just One Full day, so your hours won't show it, so if your payslip shows like 70 hours remaining and no mention of personal day, you've still got it to take, its usually used on your last one, but it'll be on your Longest shift if you work different length shifts.

Quote from: Shazzaboo70 on 18-11-22, 09:09PMThe personal day is it included in your overall holiday hours or separate?

It's separate, it's a full day off and not an amount of hours.

So if I am
Contracted to work on Monday night at 11pm ie boxing night is this then voluntary?  Can I be made work?

@Poppy123, Sun/Monday for nights are bhols,the Saturday is not bhol but voluntary

What happens if you're not contracted on Sunday and Monday nights then?.
Normally I'd use a BH day for Christmas eve and Christmas Day then another one for New Year's Eve. Christmas Day falls on Sunday this year which is my contracted day off so I don't need to use a Bank Holiday day for that....that means I'll be using 2 BH days over Christmas and New Year rather than 3. Meaning out of my entitlement of 8 I should now have 1 remaining to book at another time yet I'm being told in store that Tesco aren't recognising the bank holiday changes so I don't get the day back for Christmas Day. That means I'm losing a BH day entirely then. This seems wrong to me. I already got shafted on the Jubilee and the Queen's funeral and now I feel like I'm being shafted at Christmas as well.
The bank holiday for Christmas is now on the Tuesday which is a contracted shift so I should either be allowed to book that off using that one remaining day or work it for extra pay but I'm not being given either of those options.

Anyone else have Sunday and Monday nights off? What have you been told is happening?

@duff sun,monday should be bhol for nights, and saturday voluntary(you should use bhol hours for that) tuesday normal for nights

Why would I use a bank holiday for a day that I'm not contracted to work? I don't work Sundays yet I'm having to use a day of my BH entitlement. When other bank holidays fall on my other day off i get them back so why is this different? Been with Tesco 20 years and never encountered this issue before. I've not been given the option of having the actual bank holiday, the Tuesday off...as far as they're concerned I'll be using it on the Sunday...but as I said...why would I use a BH day on a day I don't work?

@duff no such thing as bhol anymore only holiday hours, like I explained Sat is not a bhol so if you want it off you use 7.5 hours of holiday, the system wont use any of your holiday hours for Sun, Mon if your not contracted, the 2 days you normally use if your contracted Xmas, box day would still be in HOLIDAY HOURS.  No such thing as bhol day back as all holiday hours are there in black and white at start of the holiday year.

As above, BH and holidays are now just hours. The system will not allow you to book hours on a day off.   It will only allow hours to be booked when scheduled to work.

So I should have hours left since Sunday 25th isn't contracted, yet I'm told I have none left. I am told I'm working on Tuesday 27th which is now the bank holiday, I've been given no option to book this off, been told I have no more holiday time left. How can that be if I haven't used any hours for the Sunday? I haven't used the hours elsewhere nor have I used my PD so as far as I'm concerned I still have 15 hrs left to use.

you have obviously used them or pre booked them, your holiday allowance is not separated into holiday and bank holiday anymore its a lump sum.

I haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.

I hope you get this sorted quickly Duff.
My core days are Sunday, Tuesday and Friday. I am marked as on holiday on 25th and 1st. I am not marked with anything on 26th and I'm scheduled in on the Tuesday 27th.The problem shows itself on the holiday hours left on the bottom of our payslips because they don't take into account remaining holidays already booked and particularly those assigned to what the app still calls bank holidays.
Do we actually have a choice as to whether to take holiday or unpaid leave for core days falling on bank holidays?

If you have no holiday hours left,you can book off unpaid  and @ duff already told you nights bhol sunday monday so not sure why your going on about tuesday still

We are being told Tesco is not recognising Monday  night 26th as bank holiday..

@me only me,Tesco bank holiday calendar says bhols 26th, 27th, that's Tesco, not your manager,TESCO,   ,,,,,,,  I work nights and for nights its Sunday,Monday with Saturday voluntary(our store does 4pm-10pm night team on Xmas eve ) if you worked days and were only contracted Sun, Mon, Tues you would get 3 days off if you booked it, why would nights be treated differently?

I work nights and I'm being told Monday night is not a bank holiday, but saw Tesco calender says the Monday night will be classed b/h . Thank you for your reply.

If you work nights sat sun mon. Sat is hols and the other 2 are bh. Thats it.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 05-12-22, 11:42AMI haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.

If that is the case then yes there is an issue, I would ask for a printout of all holidays taken and pre-booked and see if they tally with your records.

Do they no longer have the part on your payslip which states days/hours taken and those remaining to take? Is PD still kept separate or incorporated into the hours allowance?

Before the changeover, the payslip used to state holidays taken/ left to take. BH entitlement and PD were separate from holidays on the system and very often people who had booked BH / PD leave were incorrectly entered as holidays taken! Then people were told they'd taken too many holidays and weren't paid!! It happened that often, yet the wages clerk didn't cross check until specifically asked to do so, usually by me  :-X

It does state the hours taken, remaining and then nothing if PD hasn't been taken, if PD has then says it's been taken but otherwise it doesn't include PD hours since its ONE full day (whichever is longest). but asking for a print out and a go through shows what is authorised on the system so you can fact check it of what has been put in and what you have down... shows all holidays and absences so you know what's paid and what's not, not authorised is unpaid....

Had to do it recently to sort mine out and found 6 weren't in the system that were handed in beforehand, with 1 I'd taken only been paid for half a shift - hence better to check now and again because can't trust them at all.

Your personal day is separate to your allowed holiday hours.

Seems some of you are having similar issues, it would appear some stores are telling their staff different stories with regards to which bank holidays are being recognised. Initially I was told Tuesday was a bank holiday, then I was told it wasn't, I was told I wouldn't need to use a holiday day for the Sunday, now I'm told I will need to use one despite the system not allowing holidays to be booked on non contracted days.
All I know is I have not used or pre booked all my holiday hours or my personal day yet I'm being told I only have the personal day left. I think in my case it's a management mistake and misinformation around the bank holiday. As usual communication is c**p.
As for the Saturday, in our store there is no option to work, there is no night crew on Christmas Eve so we have no choice but to use a holiday day so at least there's no confusion over that part.

Be thankful that you have no shift on Sat night. If it means that much to you about working it offer to work at another Tesco that does have a shift. There will be many.

Quote from: Duff McKagan on 05-12-22, 11:42AMI haven't used them, nor have I pre booked them. I have copies of all the holiday I have booked and according to that I still have 7.5 hrs plus my personal day left to book. Yet manager insists I won't get the 7.5hrs. Essentially he is saying that because Christmas Day falls on my day off it's tough luck. This means I am in effect using holiday hours for a day I wouldn't be working anyway. I believe he has made a mistake, and once Christmas is over it will become clear that I still have hours to book.

Just ask for a holiday report. It will show all holidays that have been booked. There is also a report that shows hours yet to book. Booked holidays will also show on extra hours market.

The holiday report is not top secret. Its your time off. Your mgr should be happy to show you what you have taken what you have booked till year end and any outstanding balance. Your personal day is separate. If you are not contracted to Sat Sun Mon you will not use up any entitlement.  The system won't allow it to happen. Our mgrs sit down with the staff and show them the info so it can all get booked in ASAP.

Quote from: 5fdp on 08-12-22, 12:20AMBe thankful that you have no shift on sat night. If it means that much to you about working it offer to work at another tesco that does have a shift. There will be many.

I never said I wanted to work Saturday, I simply said there is no choice at our store, it's a given that a holiday day will be used so there's no confusion. Wind your neck in

I'm contracted to work Mondays from 5pm till 9pm on grocery. Because Monday is a B/H and the shop I work at closes at 6pm, do I need to come in? I've used all my holiday allowances.

there isn't bank holiday allowance anymore, it's hours now, so you'd just have to book it off as a holiday request to take it off and for your shift it would be used as 3.45 hours of holiday hours.

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 31-12-22, 11:18AMthere isn't bank holiday allowance anymore, it's hours now, so you'd just have to book it off as a holiday request to take it off and for your shift it would be used as 3.45 hours of holiday hours.

Thanks, I've actually booked my entire holiday allowance already...just forgot about this particular bank holiday, so I guess I just go in and work my shift. At least the shop will be quiet!

I would suggest you ring in and speak to duty? If the store shuts at 6 and there's no twighlight/ night team, then you won't be able to stay in store, whose going to let you out? What happened on the 27th? Was your store closed all day?

Surprised the manager hasn't discussed this with you long ago regarding changing your shift? I'm thinking they would have expected you to start earlier to do your full shift.

Quote from: lucgeo on 31-12-22, 01:29PMI would suggest you ring in and speak to duty? If the store shuts at 6 and there's no twighlight/ night team, then you won't be able to stay in store, whose going to let you out? What happened on the 27th? Was your store closed all day?

Surprised the manager hasn't discussed this with you long ago regarding changing your shift? I'm thinking they would have expected you to start earlier to do your full shift.

It's an Extra so there'll be staff about after closing hours. We only close all day on Christmas day. 27th I previously booked a holiday for. I have contracted hours so I wouldn't go in earlier. Yeah I guess I'll phone them up on Monday.

When store closes early it will depend on that store on what they do regarding contracted hours. In my store it's only checkouts, CSD and PFS that might have hours moved. For us, the shop floor mostly stay they same. If checkouts can't move hours they can work on shop floor.
The only time shop floor colleagues have hours amended are on the Eve's.  This year they were in two hours after store shut to customers.