I have a temp contract that is dated till wednesday next week and I've been told I will get a letter in the post as to whether I'm being kept on or not. But I've received nothing and nothing is forthcoming from any managers. What are my rights if my contract date comes and goes with no letter informing me ?
As far as temporary contracts go, you have no rights in regards to seeking a change to the duration of it to being permanent (this is slightly different if the duration of employment is more than 2 years however) . However while you're in the duration of your contract, you have the same employment rights as the other permanent staff (statutory pro ratad holidays, minimum wage, protection against discrimination etc).
If we need to end your employment we will give you the notice as outlined within your contract:
Store, Distribution and Office Colleagues:
for contracts up to 4 weeks – no notice required.
for contracts more than 4 weeks but less than 12 weeks – 1 week's notice.
for contracts more than 12 weeks – 4 weeks' notice*
Read the policy on OurTesco.
Quote from: Freebird123 on 01-01-20, 06:04PM
I have a temp contract that is dated till wednesday next week and I've been told I will get a letter in the post as to whether I'm being kept on or not. But I've received nothing and nothing is forthcoming from any managers. What are my rights if my contract date comes and goes with no letter informing me ?
The SM will know just ask him or her. I started off as an Christmas temp and the team managers kept giving me temp contracts from the SM until eventually they made it permanent. I don't see why you should have to wait on a letter. I would keep turning in until they tell you not to.
Quote from: Yogurt on 01-01-20, 10:10PM
If we need to end your employment we will give you the notice as outlined within your contract:
Store, Distribution and Office Colleagues:
for contracts up to 4 weeks – no notice required.
for contracts more than 4 weeks but less than 12 weeks – 1 week's notice.
for contracts more than 12 weeks – 4 weeks' notice*
Read the policy on OurTesco.
In your employment contract, the terms and conditions form part of your contract of employment with Tesco, if this policy is on the OurTesco website, then that changes things significantly, they will either have to extend your contract otherwise they'd be in breach of contract if they let you go without notice.
On Temporary contracts an end date is given on the actual paper contract, so unless the temporary colleagues are told otherwise and given a new contract, they will finish on the date stated on the paper contract.
Not only that they would/should have been told when they started verbally how long the contract is for.
Therefore meeting the timeframes given.
The quote from Yogurt is for permanent colleagues or if the company decide to end the temporary contract early.
If the company ends the temporary colleagues early then those timeframes are used.
So as freebird has been given an end date already, they will finish on Wednesday unless told that they have been extended temporarily or made permanent.
@Freebird123 The colleague should still be given a letter, 'ending on agreed date' or something to that effect.
Quote from: Freebird123 on 01-01-20, 06:04PM
I have a temp contract that is dated till wednesday next week and I've been told I will get a letter in the post as to whether I'm being kept on or not. But I've received nothing and nothing is forthcoming from any managers. What are my rights if my contract date comes and goes with no letter informing me ?
If you have heard nothing about staying on then you are not staying on unfortunately.
As for rights, You dont have any what you do have is an end date for the contract of employment.
Freebird if you want to stay you should ask a manager. They should've told you by now but some are terrible at remembering to do things. The chances are you are not getting kept on. I would ask though if nothing else it'll put them on the spot. They like to bin staff off and seem to think staff will just do the job of 2 3 4. But if the result is negative chin up it'll be in your long term favour. It is only now after over a year of constantly applying for jobs I have managed to find something which works around my other commitments. I wish I had never got involved in the company. But it was a steady low paid job for the rent now it's not even that with threats of culls daily. A permanent contract means nothing and is more hassle than it's worth.
of our 6 xmas temps 1 has been kept on. 3 were off "sick" 3 times in a 6 week period. 1 didn't show up for shifts or just came in when they felt and the other wants to stay but can only do 17-21 tues to thur.
8 were kept on in my store including me. :D
The 5-9 tues to thur sounds good. A long weekend every week.
MysteryTurkey Unlucky!
I can remember my tesco employment began with being a temp xmas seasonal worker. How much different my life would have been now if they didn't decide keep me on🤦???
At what point in your life will you understand that you have the capacity to take on responsibility and thrive on it and be happy with the choices you make. I can't believe you still work for a company that you have so much dislike for that you even blame them for asking you if you wanted to stay on after being a temp. :o
I don't still work for the company you tit!
T2019 go back to your far greater occupation
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Quote from: randomworker on 06-01-20, 10:06AM
At what point in your life will you understand that you have the capacity to take on responsibility and thrive on it and be happy with the choices you make. I can't believe you still work for a company that you have so much dislike for that you even blame them for asking you if you wanted to stay on after being a temp. :o
I don't still work for the company you tit!
But yet you wonder what your life would have been like if Tesco did not offer you a job and you still sh*t on the company even though you have left 8-)
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thanks for all replies :). Update Wednesday is here! as of 12am my contract ended and still no word. I've been told I have a job if I want it offered to me by my manager , then told as far as my manager is aware from the office I have a job, then told a letter was in the post to me ... still not received then told theyre 'making up' the permanent contracts for temporary staff ..... then told if my temporary contract end date has expired and they haven't said anything that I do indeed have a permanent job but that I don't get a contract! How do I apart from wages obviously ... prove on paper I work for Tesco, re holidays, terms and conditions if they do not give me a contract? I'm confused by what I'm being told and still no further along. I cant even check on my Our Tesco site because its not allowing me on there anymore and the email they give for password issues is obviously wrong one! ??? >:( :thumbdown:
An employment contract is a legal document required to undertake work as an employee. If they're suggesting that you work without a contract, refuse. Apart from the contract providing you with legal protection, it's also evidence that you are owed money whilst under the duration of it provided you comply with the terms and conditions which make up part of the contract.
Working without a contract opens you to all sorts of unscrupulous misconduct, none of which are beneath Tesco.
not strictly correct in so far as you will not be working with no contract even if yours has run out. Even if the contract has expired Tesco are still bound by the terms you do not need to have signed a contract to be deemed to have one so if they allow you to carry on working you will still be on a contract of some description, My opinion would be there will be one down for you soon enough.
Legally speaking you dont need a written contract. The fact you report to work, and Tesco gives you tasks to complete every shift rather than asking you to leave the building implies you are contracted to work for them.
Obviously in the event of any dispute it's far easier to challenge if you have a signed contract however it's fairly easy to search on Our Tesco for standard terms and conditions
Are temps not issued with clock cards? If you still have one, then use it as proof of hours worked. Are you on the rota for upcoming shifts?
I find it somewhat lapsidasical, that you are unsure if you are still employed, and a letter of notice either way, has yet to be received. You are being advised to continue to show up for work? If you don't know if you still work for tesco, if other colleagues don't know either, and it turns out you're not, what are the ramifications with regard legal and H&S ???
lucgeo
Once someone's contract is terminated the clock card no longer registers on the HRAM system. The clock machine will still bleep, etc but the information won't be picked up.
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Quote from: Freebird123 on 08-01-20, 02:14PM
thanks for all replies :). Update Wednesday is here! as of 12am my contract ended and still no word. I've been told I have a job if I want it offered to me by my manager , then told as far as my manager is aware from the office I have a job, then told a letter was in the post to me ... still not received then told theyre 'making up' the permanent contracts for temporary staff ..... then told if my temporary contract end date has expired and they haven't said anything that I do indeed have a permanent job but that I don't get a contract! How do I apart from wages obviously ... prove on paper I work for Tesco, re holidays, terms and conditions if they do not give me a contract? I'm confused by what I'm being told and still no further along. I cant even check on my Our Tesco site because its not allowing me on there anymore and the email they give for password issues is obviously wrong one! ??? >:( :thumbdown:
Do not accept the job, you'd be happier and more successful applying for the Dole than working for this shambles of a company
And yet you can't let go
Would anyone be able to tell me when the Christmas temporary workers finish? I have asked for my contract on multiple days and keep being told it’s coming in a few weeks but I am never given an answer so I don’t know when I am going to cease to work there. I have asked when I finish too and have been given vague answers from the end of December to the 4th of January.
Will it be around the 4th January or is it literally Christmas Day? I would like to know so that I can plan my finances and budget.
That will depend on your store. Some temps may even be kept on. We have at least one temp in our store who we will keep for about 3 months. Scottish store are keeping temps into new year, probably 2nd or 3rd Jan. All experienced colleagues will tell you that January is the quiest time of the year. Exisiting colleague have been encouraged to take unpaid leave if the want to before now. Overtime dries up. If I was you I would not expect into the new year but it all depends on your store and how they sit with hours.
So I may finish at the end of next week? I think my store has already recruited more temporary workers as I seen them in the training room. Not sure why they didn’t just extend our contracts. Kinda rude.
It's a bit like asking how long is a piece of string. All will depend on your stores set up the fact that they are recruiting is potentially a good sign.
A temp can only be a temp for so long. Some don't work out. The stores need people that will work hard and be helpful and a support to existing staff. I would not go as far as saying you have to work all hours as you don't. But you need to be an asset.
Stores need people who do a bit of work and do not complain about the other man.
I do a lot of work and complain about nothing. A lot of the permanent staff stand talking for minutes at a time.
But that’s neither here nor there.
Just asking a question to colleagues do you think this batch of Christmas temps night or day are a great deal better then other years??
The same
It's individual surely, every year you've some that are amazing, majority good decent workers and then the odd few bad ones.
We do seem to have a lot more temps this year though
Have to say the temporary colleagues I've been working alongside are brilliant. They actually engage with pretty much everyone, have a laugh and get on with it.
Am crossing my fingers we'll have the hours after Christmas to keep them on permanently.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13498747/tesco-shelf-stacker-sacked-self-isolate/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13498747/tesco-shelf-stacker-sacked-self-isolate/)
QuoteThe 24-year-old had only worked three shifts at the Tesco Extra in Romford, Essex, on a temporary festive contract.
He said he called his boss to tell them of the worrying news.
But Dominic was then shocked to get a letter less than a week later confirming his contract was being terminated.
We have about 6 temps in our store who started back in March when the pandemic began, they were kept on and have been strung along on short term contracts. Seems a bit silly to not take people on permanently, most are only on 10-12 hours a week but yet have the disorganised "oh are you going/aren't you going/oh we need to do the paperwork" dance every couple of months!!
I honestly think the temps and agency staff get worse every year. Dont want to work hard or put in any significant hours.
Of course there are always a few great temp staff and they are always kept on if they want, however a majority are useless
Ever wonder why that might be? Retail is a dead end job... people come and go all the time... perhaps not like you.
Exactly, pay peanuts gets monkeys.
Quote from: T.C.1 on 17-12-20, 03:10PM
Just asking a question to colleagues do you think this batch of Christmas temps night or day are a great deal better then other years??
Quote from: Guidance on 16-12-20, 12:47PM
I do a lot of work and complain about nothing. A lot of the permanent staff stand talking for minutes at a time.
But that’s neither here nor there.
We have contracted staff compared to agency (last two years). We have one guy who is very good and other 5 who are bad. And we had one guy exceptionally bad and he quit two weeks later as work was to hard for him.
Cant expect miracle from newly hired employee but if you ask (and show how to cary out the task) someone to pick up a box, open it and put it on the shelf and they do not know how to open , or where to put the box (even if you literally point out the spot),
then i am sory but its a complete joke.
One of our xmas temps from 2017/18 who was hired permamently asked if she is still slow. I said, "yes, and for a comparison we had a guy who with only one hand managed to twice more than you or anyone else".
Regarding working a lot or hard not talking or talking. Example from last year xmas. One girl who worked on tea and coffe aisle needed extra hour to finish the work. Guy who worked the days she was off needed 4-4.5 to finish the job (all done to high standards and no skimming). While on fag break she complained how hard the work is, there is to much to do, she should be paid atleast twice as anyone else.
We old employess complain on the other hand that the new employes are way to slow hitting somewhere between 40-60% of our productivity. Same aisle similar level of workload. Or another example from our dairy department. No delivery , backstock only and 3 people cant do it, need to send 4th one. Wow 15 cages (no need to fill meat) some are full some nearly empty but it is to much for people to cope with. While girl who works there 5 nights a week had to fill whole dairy on her own few times in the past when we had no delivery.
We have some woman who come back to tesco after about 7 years after she left, and she is saying that todays level of employees is worst than pathetic. And we are not talking about fresh one but some who are with ous for months and years. They simply are not improving much.
Other stores in the town are not in any better situation. But its not my story to tell.
You know what I’ve learnt after working at Tesco for 15 years? New starts are always c**p till they learn how to do the job, the other members in the department complain about how s*** that new start is at the job. After a few months the new person gets somewhat competent at the job and joins the others in the department complaining at how s*** the new start is at the job. Rinse and repeat for my 15 years. News flash to everyone complaining about how c**p new people are at the job, people complained about you when you joined! Break the cycle
These days no buddy up system no old style team leaders no moral very weak managers so not a good combination.
Stop comparing one to the other do a few hours work and go home.
Hey, sorry for jumping on this thread, but I've just joined, can't search and can't find a way to post my own thread.
I'm an Xmas temp, and I've had one payment - but how do I access my payslip? In order to sign up at ourtesco.com to see payslips, you need your employee number - from your payslip. But I have what I think is my employee number and it doesn't recognise it. Is it because I've not been there three months?
I would ask my manager, but he's self isolating at the moment!
my card is like 15 years old, my number is on my card have a look at your sign in card it should be on there?
No, unfortunately it isn't. The EMP NO bit is blank.
breeksy
All new starters should receive a paper payslip for their first pay and all the information is on there. Check with your wages clerk. Your wages clerk can also give you your employee number and Activation Code.
Unfortunately, new starters don't get any employee number until approx 10 days after starting so the first clocking card never shows one. However, I believe that all colleagues are given an employee numbers from Day 1 on the new Work and Pay system.
Thank you! Unfortunately I work nights, but I'll phone and see what they say.
Thanks!
How do temporary workers get told they are no longer needed? For example is it at the end of a shift when they are told thanks for their help but we are ok now or is it in another way?
trotter
You should get a letter.
Quote from: trotter on 24-12-20, 12:28AM
How do temporary workers get told they are no longer needed? For example is it at the end of a shift when they are told thanks for their help but we are ok now or is it in another way?
probably thanks for nothing, goodbye and might try to contact you next christmas
If temporary staff are let go and get their holiday paid off, is that based on their contract hours or average hours?
eg if they were on a 15 hour contract but actually worked 30 hours most weeks, they will get their holiday allocation paid but would it be based on their contract week or their actual week? Heard both opinions!
It's based on their actual week.
Quote from: newguy20 on 18-12-20, 01:22AM
We have about 6 temps in our store who started back in March when the pandemic began, they were kept on and have been strung along on short term contracts. Seems a bit silly to not take people on permanently, most are only on 10-12 hours a week but yet have the disorganised "oh are you going/aren't you going/oh we need to do the paperwork" dance every couple of months!!
I agree. I don’t understand why they don’t just hire permanent workers. Some of the temp workers are better than the permanent workers.
I am a temporary worker and work very hard. I do more work than the permanent workers and have been praised highly by other workers, a few managers and customers. Still though, I don’t think they are keeping me on.
But it is interesting that you all say that the temporary workers are poor, they are all very good in my store.
Quote from: dotnochance on 20-12-20, 06:17PM
You know what I’ve learnt after working at Tesco for 15 years? New starts are always c**p till they learn how to do the job, the other members in the department complain about how s*** that new start is at the job. After a few months the new person gets somewhat competent at the job and joins the others in the department complaining at how s*** the new start is at the job. Rinse and repeat for my 15 years. News flash to everyone complaining about how c**p new people are at the job, people complained about you when you joined! Break the cycle
I have people complain about me but expect me to know certain things without telling or training me. It is uncomfortable.
Are hiring decisions made by head office in England or the individual store? I just ask as I was laid off from my temp job.. but I heard that some temporary people were highered permanently.
I feel a little hurt for not being taken on despite all the hard work. Working over Christmas Eve and New Year’s Day. Going above and beyond, doing more work than was required of me. Staying in really late hours and then coming in at 6am to bring in the stock after having only 4 hours of sleep. Working seven days in a row as well. I honestly worked so hard at that job.
I am thinking about why this happened and feel like stupid for putting in such hard work. Can’t help but feel this is a judgement on me.
Maybe it is a whole misunderstanding.
Individual stores make the call on who to hire.
So what would determine a temp worker being kept on?
my guess is only dotcom temps will stay and will depend on how far the number of trollies have dropped or will
Yes.. why do they stay on? I’m just wondering how anyone ever gets a permanent job in there, I rarely see permanent jobs advertised.
You would think they would take on good temporary workers instead of cycling new people every few months.
Quote from: Guidance on 02-01-21, 10:35PM
So what would determine a temp worker being kept on?
A long list of things. Firstly being if they can afford it. There is a set budget for each dept. If a dept is under hours they may be able to keep a temp. If extra strain is being put on a dept due to things like long term sick, unfilled contracted hours, or a big launch on the horizon. This is all simplified but it comes down to "can we afford it". After that a manager can request but it's senior team that decide.
What I do think was a bit unfair was when they inducted the christmas temps this year they told them there would be a possibility of being kept on for those who were interested and who had shown themselves to be good.
At the same time everyone else was being told there were still cuts coming, and lo and behold, nobody was kept on from christmas. Just felt it was a bit wrong that they told all these people something they knew was rubbish!
At the very least, it taught them not to trust Retail Managers, all they cared about was that the false hope they gave resulted in greater productivity and commitment to the business, the temps will hopefully be at least a bit less naive in in the future.
Well I personally feel that they took advantage. I know I did the role of a permanent staff member and more. As I said coming in on more than a several days at 6am to bring the stock in after working late the previous day. And coming in at the last minute to cover when I was supposed to be off.
And constantly replenishing the stock whilst the permanent staff took the day off. I started to notice some people slacking off because they knew I would do it. They used me because they knew I was loyal.
I am sorry if I am a loyal person. I don’t believe it’s naive to think that one would be rewarded for hard work and loyalty. It smacks of unappreciation.
I certainly learn’t a hard lesson and will be questioning heavily re the contract length if they ask me to come back due to rising cases. I certainly won’t be doing all that work again, only to be sent home with my tail between my legs looking like an idiot. Most definitely not.
Anyway I don’t think they will call me in again. I think they will just advertise the job again. They seem to not want me for some reason.
Personally, I would not recommend temp work and won’t be applying for temp jobs in the future. You are not treated equally, some of the permanent colleagues are competitive/threatened if you do a better job and others do not treat you equally or recognise your skills despite being there months. I have had people from other departments undermine me etc just because I am temporary.
Guidance - I'm thinking what a lucky escape you've had. Forget about Tesco and get yourself a proper job where you're efforts might be appreciated. Tesco is nothing but a giant p**s take.
Quote from: Guidance on 02-01-21, 10:25PM
Are hiring decisions made by head office in England or the individual store? I just ask as I was laid off from my temp job.. but I heard that some temporary people were highered permanently.
I feel a little hurt for not being taken on despite all the hard work. Working over Christmas Eve and New Year’s Day. Going above and beyond, doing more work than was required of me. Staying in really late hours and then coming in at 6am to bring in the stock after having only 4 hours of sleep. Working seven days in a row as well. I honestly worked so hard at that job.
I am thinking about why this happened and feel like stupid for putting in such hard work. Can’t help but feel this is a judgement on me.
Maybe it is a whole misunderstanding.
Your face didnt fit.
Now you can probably see why the permanent staff don’t care and let you work your arse off ragged! They probably learnt that lesson years ago. Tesco don’t give a flying f*** about staff. I used to be like you I worked my Arse off for the company, even used to be a team leader, then got f***ed over as a team leader and made redundant and moved to dotcom, I used to go out of my way to pick way above the pick rate, even though I used to be 20-30 points above the pick, if you where caught talking managers team support would scream at you “we’re busy stop talking†even after I’d show my high pick, they’d be like don’t care, well now I deliberately give my pick exactly at the pick rate pass and do the bare minimum for them to not notice me, gone are the days I give anything but bare minimum, f*** them
Quote from: Teddybonkers on 04-01-21, 10:47AM
Guidance - I'm thinking what a lucky escape you've had. Forget about Tesco and get yourself a proper job where you're efforts might be appreciated. Tesco is nothing but a giant p**s take.
I am a graduate and have struggled to get a job for months and months, I just want something to tide me over for now.
Quote from: dotnochance on 04-01-21, 01:57PM
Now you can probably see why the permanent staff don’t care and let you work your arse off ragged! They probably learnt that lesson years ago. Tesco don’t give a flying f*** about staff. I used to be like you I worked my Arse off for the company, even used to be a team leader, then got f***ed over as a team leader and made redundant and moved to dotcom, I used to go out of my way to pick way above the pick rate, even though I used to be 20-30 points above the pick, if you where caught talking managers team support would scream at you “we’re busy stop talking†even after I’d show my high pick, they’d be like don’t care, well now I deliberately give my pick exactly at the pick rate pass and do the bare minimum for them to not notice me, gone are the days I give anything but bare minimum, f*** them
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Does anyone care anymore they just rinse as much as they can out of you if you let them.Feels like your working for an app now anyway.Our Sm thought supplying crisps,fizzy drinks and chocolate was a massive morale booster over Christmas the place is a f****ng joke now.And that dog s*** music constantly playing yep......nope.
Quote from: Guidance on 04-01-21, 07:32PM
Quote from: Teddybonkers on 04-01-21, 10:47AM
Guidance - I'm thinking what a lucky escape you've had. Forget about Tesco and get yourself a proper job where you're efforts might be appreciated. Tesco is nothing but a giant p**s take.
I am a graduate and have struggled to get a job for months and months, I just want something to tide me over for now.
If you're a graduate, you're already more qualified than the majority of Store Managers, you shouldn't be applying and making do with ca or entry level jobs, if you have at least a 2:2 you can apply for Tescos graduate scheme, they have an in-store graduate scheme where you start off as a team manager on £28k a year, or better yet apply for jobs outside of Retail, you usually get paid more for less work but you will need to use your brain more.
When does a temp worker lose their colleague Clubcard? Is it at the end of the contract or on the last pay date?
Got mine about a week before my 12th week of service. I’m on a temp contract but being kept on perm
I was taken on as a temp before Christmas on nights and got offered a day role apparently to be made perm, however apparently Tesco extend temp contracts for up to 52 weeks and don't make you a permanent member of staff until such point! Sounds ludicrous!
normally they give you the 3 temp contracts they are allowed before making you perm.
My store has had temps since beggining of covid on 4 week temp contracts, company are a bunch of pr**k* people have been working for tesco for a year and tesco refuse to give perm contract
I thought could only be temp for up to 36 weeks, but I may be wrong.