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Pay review 2023

Started by person7, 05-02-23, 02:55PM

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Charlie Harper

Same here....quit them a loooooong time ago.

Beanny

Union only good when you need represented in a serious disciplinary situation!

fatlad

I've been in disciplinary situations before and represented myself without any problems. You just need to know policy wordings and go into meetings armed with it. Managers doing the disciplinaries don't like it when you know the policies better than they do.

trivi

Having done both team support in large and shift leader in express the pay being the same is ridiculous and needs sorting asap

Bakersdozen

I think 6 months Sunday premium should be paid to those who are contracted to Sundays by the potential loss, otherwise its Just taking with one hand to give with the other. Great for most but for those contracted to Sundays it's not very good at all.

I remember when the union negotiated that "great deal" last time the 10% over two years, and signed away our bonus scheme in the process, with time and a half going.

Everyone seems to forget about our bonus, I remember the first year it went from shares to cash award which was 5% in 2016, I got just over £1k which was very nice.


Rumblerumble

Quote from: trivi on 09-02-23, 10:22AMHaving done both team support in large and shift leader in express the pay being the same is ridiculous and needs sorting asap

Totally

grim up north

Quote from: trivi on 09-02-23, 10:22AMHaving done both team support in large and shift leader in express the pay being the same is ridiculous and needs sorting asap

In what way? I dont work in store so dont know which(or for what reason) is classed as 'easiest'

grim up north

Quote from: Bakersdozen on 09-02-23, 06:02PMI think 6 months Sunday premium should be paid to those who are contracted to Sundays by the potential loss, otherwise its Just taking with one hand to give with the other. Great for most but for those contracted to Sundays it's not very good at all.

I remember when the union negotiated that "great deal" last time the 10% over two years, and signed away our bonus scheme in the process, with time and a half going.

Everyone seems to forget about our bonus, I remember the first year it went from shares to cash award which was 5% in 2016, I got just over £1k which was very nice.



I think sunday premium should be paid to all staff who work a sunday, permanently

NightAndDay

Quote from: grim up north on 09-02-23, 07:09PM
Quote from: trivi on 09-02-23, 10:22AMHaving done both team support in large and shift leader in express the pay being the same is ridiculous and needs sorting asap

In what way? I dont work in store so dont know which(or for what reason) is classed as 'easiest'

Shift Leaders are far harder, they're always duty manager in charge of everything 95% of the time, that factor alone means they should be paid more.

trivi

My shift leader jobs today
Labels, cleaning, pr scan, waste, working backstock bringing 2 deliveries in, filling fresh and frozen delivery, covering tills at lunchtime rush

My usual team support day
Break planning, putbacks, queue directing

Rumblerumble

Quote from: trivi on 09-02-23, 07:58PMMy shift leader jobs today
Labels, cleaning, pr scan, waste, working backstock bringing 2 deliveries in, filling fresh and frozen delivery, covering tills at lunchtime rush

My usual team support day
Break planning, putbacks, queue directing

Literally
I've done both roles. Left Service Team Support in August to become Shift Leader and have to say Service Team Support is p**s easy compared to Shift Leader

Hammer10

Did you not have any staff to work the deliveries .What size store do you work in.

oldfashionedplayer

Sounds like a normal day for a night manager at ours 😂, starts with pi, starts filling shelves afterwards, will stop inbetween or afterwards for wagons and throws the cages off, lifts about 2 to 3 produce trays at once splitting it all down in back, (and wonders why his back hurts lifting 30 to 40kg each time), then jumps in where help is needed, does the milk/bread deliveries and takes a break if he's lucky at the end of the last hourfor 15 to 30 mins.

Doesn't know the meaning of cleaning though, like a bull in a China shop,if he makes a mess he leaving, if he sees one it's staying there.

So nothing much will change for them I guess apart from their pay?

Babs

I didn't get any protected pay, back when they got rid of the premium between 10pm - midnight... which I still don't agree with!

flowerpower

Babs I'm the same went back on nights was on them for over a year but didn't get the payment because it was the wrong year  >:D

SAMCRO

Zoom call on Monday 20th February for store USDAW reps regarding outcome of 2023 Pay Review.

fatlad


SAMCRO

The email was sent to store managers on February 7th. Found a print out in the canteen, I'm guessing one of my store reps left in there... or maybe the store manager  :D

fatlad


Doggiedoodle

Quote from: Babs on 12-02-23, 01:59AMI didn't get any protected pay, back when they got rid of the premium between 10pm - midnight... which I still don't agree with!
I've been on nights 7 years and have never heard any mention of protected pay!

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from: Babs on 12-02-23, 01:59AMI didn't get any protected pay, back when they got rid of the premium between 10pm - midnight... which I still don't agree with!

Never got any either, they said everyone was better off... Wasn't for months.. So always bs.

Andi

#71
The simple fact is USDAW have no bargaining power hence why we are losing everything.  We were in the canteen the other night and our union rep was sitting in the corner and we knew he was there, we were discussing the possibility of losing night shift premiums and Sun premiums and what those who worked Sat night might do and us who work the other nights might do as well.  We might be getting a raise to £11 an hour but we are still losing money and we also said that at every pay review we have lost something and the union was useless.  Our rep got up and was angry at what we were saying and shouted at us about how the pay review was only agreed 6 weeks ago and we are speculating about what it is after reading about it on this page.  We told him we know its speculation and we are allowed to discuss what may come.

Personally I think the union is rubbish and we need the same union as the HGV drivers as usdaw have no bargaining power and in my experience are rubbish in meetings as well.  It's like they are in Tesco's back pocket.

FarmerFred

The problem isn't USDAW as such since they do represent HGV drivers too, it's the job role. HGV driving is a skilled role that isn't easy to replace, although the driver shortage has eased somewhat. Whereas just about anyone can walk into shop floor work, union membership is fairly low & even if a strike was voted for many folk would struggle to afford to strike for more than 1 or two days. So whatever union represents the shop floor workers will have sod all bargaining power.

NightAndDay

#73
Time during strike action for strikers is often reimbursed to workers by the union so they can afford to go on strike, though not all unions do this.

Doggiedoodle

Quote from: Andi on 12-02-23, 09:37PMThe simple fact is USDAW have no bargaining power hence why we are losing everything.  We were in the canteen the other night and our union rep was sitting in the corner and we knew he was there, we were discussing the possibility of losing night shift premiums and Sun premiums and what those who worked Sat night might do and us who work the other nights might do as well.  We might be getting a raise to £11 an hour but we are still losing money and we also said that at every pay review we have lost something and the union was useless.  Our rep got up and was angry at what we were saying and shouted at us about how the pay review was only agreed 6 weeks ago and we are speculating about what it is after reading about it on this page.  We told him we know its speculation and we are allowed to discuss what may come.

Personally I think the union is rubbish and we need the same union as the HGV drivers as usdaw have no bargaining power and in my experience are rubbish in meetings as well.  It's like they are in Tesco's back pocket.
USDAW are definitely in Tesco's back pocket they always have been! I stopped paying them 6 years ago and never regretted it!

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