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Staff room hygiene questions

Started by person7, 15-01-23, 11:01AM

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person7

Quote from: lucgeo on 30-01-23, 08:49AMSo how often is this domestic dishwasher given a deep clean, and by whom?
Kettles, toasters and even microwaves are pretty self explanatory to operate, unclean or soiled areas that are questionable are clearly visible.

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I wouldn't use any unclean equipment and I certainly wouldn't clean it after somebody else, before being able to use it! Tesco may state it's everybody's responsibility to look after and maintain the staff room, but if Tesco provide the equipment, they are responsible for ensuring it is fit for use. End of!!

Oddly the toasters are cleaned out daily and the sides by the hot water machine is also cleaned daily (we dont have kettles we have them giant water tank machine as its a large store with over 250 staff)

the dishwashgers have NEVER once been cleaned, they never been loaded with salt or rinse aid except when first installed.

i actually found mackeral, scrambled eggs, beans etc all in one of them when i put 16 filthy "clean" forks in - the managers say its the cleaners jobs and will feed back to them but they clean everything BUT the dishwashers and the tables!

90% of us now hold cutlery under the hot boiling water several seconds to sanitize the cutlery as its not hygienic taking them to the toilet to wash in the toilet sinks! (they blocked up the door with "authorized personal only" to the old canteen so we dont even have a sink except the toilets)

-- which of course holding your hand under boiling water tank with a fork and knife and especially a spoon = burn risk - but its all we can do now

, theres now staff ill left right and centre and the canteen stinks of rotten milk, rotten eggs, beans and all sorts.

Sherwoodforest

@person7 put the hot water in a cup,then put the spoon,fork whatever in the cup(no burning then)
Tesco Finest Karma,best served bent over💩

lucgeo

#52
Go to the toilets sink...put the hot water in a cup, then put the spoon, fork whatever in the cup ( no burning then )...maybe bit of excrement and germs in the atmosphere, especially if someone is using the hand dryer at the same time ??? This is the alternative for washing of used cutlery  in this store!! Alternative is to wait your turn to use hot water tank, always hoping there's a clean cup available to soak your cutlery in and the tank is dispensing at the correct temp after a sudden influx of constant use?

Remind me...why were kitchen and bakery department colleagues told to disrobe from their overalls and aprons to use the toilet  ???
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Sherwoodforest

@lucgeo what idiot would walk to the toilet for hot water when theres a hot water heater in the canteen,be real
Tesco Finest Karma,best served bent over💩

lucgeo

#54
Quote from: person7 on 02-02-23, 03:18PM.........
90% of us now hold cutlery under the hot boiling water several seconds to sanitize the cutlery as its not hygienic taking them to the toilet to wash in the toilet sinks! (they blocked up the door with "authorized personal only" to the old canteen so we dont even have a sink except the toilets)
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So if the hot water tank is not accessible or out of order?? Also where are people rinsing off their used dishes and cutlery?? No wonder the dishwasher is clogged with stale food, nowhere to rinse and no deep clean of the dishwasher ugh  ???
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

surlaroute

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 03-02-23, 01:49AM@lucgeo what idiot would walk to the toilet for hot water when theres a hot water heater in the canteen,be real

(without reading what else has been said since I last came here) I'll walk you back to what I said about how a lot of people on here clearly don't know what idiots constitute the Tesco staff now and why this whole post matters cos it really is that desperate and disgusting. ps. in our store? you're as likely to get hot water in the toilet as soap.

surlaroute

#56
Quote from: lucgeo on 02-02-23, 07:36PMGo to the toilets sink...put the hot water in a cup, then put the spoon, fork whatever in the cup ( no burning then )...maybe bit of excrement and germs in the atmosphere, especially if someone is using the hand dryer at the same time ??? This is the alternative for washing of used cutlery  in this store!! Alternative is to wait your turn to use hot water tank, always hoping there's a clean cup available to soak your cutlery in and the tank is dispensing at the correct temp after a sudden influx of constant use?

Remind me...why were kitchen and bakery department colleagues told to disrobe from their overalls and aprons to use the toilet  ???

seriously though is this satire, I don't even know any more.

kaled78

this will soon be a problem for the new shift leaders in superstores and extra's,as if you look in their role pack it states,they are responsible for cleaning the colleauge room

oldfashionedplayer

#58
hot water dispensers are being removed from stores though, due to "not being used" and saving money, so ours is down to a 1 kettle that takes about 5 minutes to boil for 5 people rather than instant, so you couldn't even do the "just put hot water in" now lol

Redshoes

That might be certain size stores. We use our hot water dispenser all the time. When it broke recently it was a huge pain. It was unable to be fixed so was out of service until we got a new one. Loads of complaints and colleagues constantly asking for update on issue being resolved.

Sherwoodforest

#60
@oldfashionedplayer sounds like your store do not want to replace it that's all, we've had a new one few months back and the kettles taken away (there're going to be more expensive to run than a water heater).
Tesco Finest Karma,best served bent over💩

lackofinterest

#61
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 08-02-23, 09:02AMhot water dispensers are being removed from stores though, due to "not being used" and saving money, so ours is down to a 1 kettle that takes about 5 minutes to boil for 5 people rather than instant, so you couldn't even do the "just put hot water in" now lol
so apart from us bringing in our own cutlery, cups, and coffee, we'll be bringing in our own flasks of boiling water :D  :D  :D

gomezz

I do ... flavoured with coffee.  But then as a dot com driver I don't get to see the staff canteen mid-shift nor do I know if I will be passing a convenient burger van.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

surlaroute

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 08-02-23, 12:39PM@oldfashionedplayer sounds like your store do not want to replace it that's all, we've had a new one few months back and the kettles taken away (there're going to be more expensive to run than a water heater).

"that's all" is not enough of an excuse why do we do this. it's not a franchise operation. they expect us to find general information about working practices on the website that ought to be universal across all stores. why do we keep accepting these disgusting, genuinely (based on the content of this thread) disgusting, alternatives.

oldfashionedplayer

to be honest though ours was brand new, we hadn't had it long, probably since October / November ish? So them removing it is a huge annoyance to staff, nothing about "not wanting to fix it" was a great thing to add, they just want to annoy us by taking it away... More annoyed people = more people going to play about rather than work.. Cause why bother?

forrestgimp

Quote from: 2ndtimeround on 16-01-23, 07:02PMYes it is Tesco policy to clean up after yourself.
That's me done bothering to explain to a child who still thinks it's their Mums job to wipe their arse.
As I said previously.-
Some people just want excuses to be lazy.

We get  15 min break or an extended lunch break, are you willing to use 50% of this time cleaning so you can have a hygienic break or do you want to have a sit down and drink before its back to the obnoxious customers.

I'm fine with cleaning the canteen if I was give time away from my job to do it and not expected to do it my own unpaid break time for the benefit ot Tesco so they can not pay anyone to do it.

oldfashionedplayer

exactly, if it's paid time sure, but since breaks are UNPAID time, there's no chance of using my FREE time to clean, if i'm going to do that, I'm going to extend my break, I will happily use the excuse of "Clean as you go is part of my job, as such it should be done in company time not in UNPAID time"

randomworker

you both seem to have missed the first sentence by @2ndtimeround. which they said "Yes it is Tesco policy to clean up after yourself.

So eat and use as many dishes, tables, cups and cutlery you want and dribble as you go but just clean it up after  :P

Nomad

I would have thought 'clean up after yourself' applies to any mess made in the course of your paid work.  They cannot have a policy that applies to anybody in their own free unpaid time.
Nomad ( Forum Admin )
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2ndtimeround

Quote from: randomworker on 15-02-23, 12:36PMyou both seem to have missed the first sentence by @2ndtimeround. which they said "Yes it is Tesco policy to clean up after yourself.

So eat and use as many dishes, tables, cups and cutlery you want and dribble as you go but just clean it up after  :P

I guess you still think it's your mothers job to clean your mess up at home. 🤷🏻�♂️

randomworker

@2ndtimeround

I was not getting at you I was reminding them what you said which is correct clean up after yourself  8-)

randomworker

Quote from: Nomad on 15-02-23, 02:32PMI would have thought 'clean up after yourself' applies to any mess made in the course of your paid work.  They cannot have a policy that applies to anybody in their own free unpaid time.

well there is a small thing in life called common sense and yes if I was a person who did not apply it and went by the book I would be cleaning the store 24/7 and reporting every incident to Manager/shift-leader.  :D

However I will clean up after myself and ridicule any midden who left c**p at their backside. Would I clean up a potential bomb site in canteen?, maybe but I would first say over headset after my break if the shift-leader wants it done and it will done on company time. But luckily we don't have any issues with canteen and maybe because as a team it just gets done without anyone making a fuss about it for the sake of it.

2ndtimeround

Quote from: randomworker on 15-02-23, 04:02PM@2ndtimeround

I was not getting at you I was reminding them what you said which is correct clean up after yourself  8-)

Then I apologise as I've clearly misunderstood your humour.

Personally I find it hard to believe the attitude from so many that feel 10 seconds to put a cup in the dishwasher is such a hardship.

lucgeo

 8-) And an unpaid half an hour to clean up the c**p before you even get to use anywhere near sanitised facilities Tesco are obliged to PROVIDE...if they offer it as a replacement to canteen personnel catering for your REST TIME in the RESTROOM, then they are obligated to provide it!!

Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

2ndtimeround

The only reason there would be any c**p to clean up 1st is if your colleagues aren't clearing THEIR OWN cups and plates into the dishwasher.
I have occasionally found the canteen in this state when starting a nightshift but in honesty it has never taken me more than 5 minutes to clear it.

Legally I believe the only obligation is to provide a method of heating food, hot water for drinks and a method of been able to wash up after yourself. Or at least that all I've ever found either on the DirectGov or The HSE websites.
If anyone knows of any other legal obligation in the UK then I'm happy to be proven wrong.

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