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Title: Stock control
Post by: Qwsaedfr on 01-06-19, 12:42PM
Hey, can anyone tell me how much those working on stock control get an hour please?  :)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 01-06-19, 01:18PM
£8.42, it's a basic job (for some reason). Or the new start rate is a little less I believe.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Qwsaedfr on 01-06-19, 01:37PM
ah thanks for letting me know! seems a bit silly it's classed as a basic job but whatever I guess
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 01-06-19, 02:03PM
Yeah people (GAs and Managers) always call it a skilled job and that they wont touch it as a result. Yet I don't appear to be getting a skilled payment 🙄 Very few people can do the role though. Theres 7 in my store that can do Stock Control, only 4 that know how to do morning routines...
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Ssdd on 01-06-19, 02:13PM
Same as backdoor for me, there's 2 of us trained or of 20 on the night shift. And if you ask me backdoor should be classed as skilled
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheMountain on 01-06-19, 02:43PM
Yeah. Opening a back door and rolling some cages and pallets off the back of a lorry. Skilled? Pull the other one! Haha.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: StoreManager on 01-06-19, 04:33PM
Backdoor skilled  ;D They are luck we don't have driverless trucks getting let in automatic gates being let into automatic doors wagons being unloaded by robots.  But the shelf filler will always be a manual process they could never handle the customer service element.  ;)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 01-06-19, 04:46PM
Stock control has to be the most complicated job I ever did.....it's not that it's rocket science.....but there are so many differing routines, different scenarios and different ways to use the PDA to acheive the same result.  The new PDA's did make things easier, but they are so flimsy and not really fit for purpose.

The stock control team in our store were always used as spare bods.....
Late delivery........get the S/C team on it
Service call......... Ditto
Dot com pick........Ditto
Daily Rumble........Ditto

Busy trading periods you could spend 3/4 if not more of your shift supporting different departments.....as the general consensus from the SM and other ignorant managers was that all we did all day was walk round with a piece of paper :-X

Sickness and holidays had no support whatsoever. Checkout operators sitting chatting etc no support back to catch up on routines needing completing before the window closes Reason given......no body knows how to do it  >:(
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 01-06-19, 05:36PM
Ooooops.....nearly forgot, coming in every day to find that some random unknown person, had decided to count on the stock you couldn't locate and wiped off the previous day, but still there is a gap on the shelf and nothing in the warehouse.....usually it's a manager who doesn't want shrink on their dept, so reckons "it's there" but fails to prove where??

And the overloading of the capping shelves, with stock hidden behind the boxes in front, or put on a capping shelf the other end of the aisle!!

And the restricted fill items, that you have to instore, tag and put out because it's "your job" allegedly ???
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 01-06-19, 11:23PM
stock control the glue that kept the stores running...... not anymore👏👏👏👏👏👏
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Pochin123 on 01-06-19, 11:39PM
Quote from: TheMountain on 01-06-19, 02:43PM
Yeah. Opening a back door and rolling some cages and pallets off the back of a lorry. Skilled? Pull the other one! Haha.
Wouldn't consider this a skilled job being a former backdoor man I can tell you it's no walk the park.  Responsible for unloading wagons, ensuring compliance with regard to temperature checks, ticking off all the UOD's and then phoning Bangalore to report them missing, making sure paperwork for the waste was correct and chasing down colleagues and managers to double check, responsible for splitting cages to the relevant aisles for grocery & H&B, sorting MU"s out and condensing them to maximise space and ensuring the warehouse is tidy to ensure a smooth handover. If you would like me to tell you more info just ask :)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 01-06-19, 11:47PM
I would say the skill is experience something the t**ts ignore but run to on a daily basis......so skill is experience something a c**p company like tw*tco takes for granted everyday.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 02-06-19, 05:58PM
Quote from: TheMountain on 01-06-19, 02:43PM
Yeah. Opening a back door and rolling some cages and pallets off the back of a lorry. Skilled? Pull the other one! Haha.

Last I checked, backdoor was letting in deliveries from wagons, bread, milk, costa, non food electrical and other stuff, unloading cages, pallets, recording proper temperatures, ensuring paperwork is recorded, cages are recorded, waste is sent back and documents filled out, splitting cages, putting delivery away to relevant areas of frozen, meat, produce / dairy, grocery, H & B, Non Food, Clothing,   supposedly ordering new pallets / mu's, stacking shelves, dealing with customers and complaints from customers, clearing shop floor, using electric pump trucks, doing delivery returns....

granted we don't look after the warehouse as much, but we're given 40 hours a week to do all of that for a night team by the way, it says in the policies 2 people on the backdoor for wagons, we're over staffed with 2 contracted.. 1 full time, 1 part time.

may of missed a few things I guess, but that's the general role for ours, a stock control though is - "ping, ping, ping, ok you can get rid of the stuff now"
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 02-06-19, 08:30PM
This isn't turning into a slagging match here. Respect each others jobs. We all play an important role in this shambles.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 02-06-19, 09:24PM
We do all play an important role the pity is the company doesn't care.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 12-06-19, 07:32PM
Anyone getting loads of Stock Record errors during OSI, we keep getting gains from nowhere
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: msl1791 on 12-06-19, 08:24PM
Yes we are...picking up a few this week.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 16-06-19, 10:24AM
I've found yoghurts in particular have had some pretty huge stock discrepancies.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Shoestring on 17-06-19, 09:28PM
Quote from: TheAnonymousWorker on 12-06-19, 07:32PM
Anyone getting loads of Stock Record errors during OSI, we keep getting gains from nowhere

OSI... what's that?!... Oh, I remember. Funny, since the slight routine change things got much worse and still no OSI or what you can call filling occurring.  :D  ???

I remember reading (even though obvious without prompt) how important to success replenishment works in unison to support the routine change, what an almighty joke.

The only hope now is that stock takers actually count the stock and count it correct, not much hope there after last count, missed entire mods and we had to spend more than a week correcting the stock record across the store, tragic.  :-X

Do prefer the counting over mismatch though, still have to print it off to see and correct any errors due to the lack of OSI.  >:(

Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Shoestring on 17-06-19, 09:42PM
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 02-06-19, 05:58PM
may of missed a few things I guess, but that's the general role for ours, a stock control though is - "ping, ping, ping, ok you can get rid of the stuff now"

If I give you a list of 50 items and tell you to go and look for them and count them to ensure stock record accuracy, in warehouse and on shop floor and often when cages not yet split and back stock all over the place and put backs in random areas. All that after having to conduct OSI, when you get any so you have to do it as targeted, and then gap scan that demands accurate stock locating because of shrink phobic management to then find those 50 items... ping indeed, everyone always underestimates each others jobs.  8)

Sometimes I wonder if Communism would work better.  :P
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Shoestring on 17-06-19, 09:50PM
Quote from: Lunamoonhare on 16-06-19, 10:24AM
I've found yoghurts in particular have had some pretty huge stock discrepancies.

Saying that, I have noticed that many delivery items are not being added to the stock record so getting more gains than usual.  ???
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: StoreManager on 17-06-19, 09:59PM
Dave was bulk buying panicking about Brexit and now we are no further forward regards the 31 October. What does he do sells a lot off and the rest gets dumped in store warehouses.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Preacherpauly on 17-06-19, 10:25PM
Quote from: TheMountain on 01-06-19, 02:43PM
Yeah. Opening a back door and rolling some cages and pallets off the back of a lorry. Skilled? Pull the other one! Haha.

Its a bit more than that but in my opinion its not a job where they should get paid more. Our night team have to drag in all deliveries ourselves, all the backdoor person does is roll it down the lorry to us and then fill the lorry with stacks and cages.

Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 22-07-19, 08:48PM
Whats the current rules regarding OSI, I've been told that now current promo is to be decked. Yet the paperwork from the new routines says "Current and New Promotion lines are not to be investigated". I haven't been stickering Promo stock but told I should be. Is there new updated paperwork?
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Tommo1961 on 22-07-19, 09:12PM
Nope. Don't need to osi promo stock.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 22-07-19, 10:27PM
There was a recent update saying capping shelves needed looking at........ just to make your day a bit more unpleasant but hey that's tosco the gift that keeps giving.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 23-07-19, 06:25AM
If they want you sorting capping shelves, then they need to ensure the airport ladders haven't rotted away in the back of the warehouse ??? Policy being that the loading and unloading of capping shelf stock should only be done using an airport ladder. A manager once refused me an airport ladder to unload a shelf, ( yes I was being awkward) stating no ladders are allowed on the shopfloor for H&S reasons, so "just do it" :o I found it extremely hard to conceal my smug look when I presented the written rule under his pompous snotty nose  ;)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 26-07-19, 12:37AM
Quote from: lucgeo on 23-07-19, 06:25AM
If they want you sorting capping shelves, then they need to ensure the airport ladders haven't rotted away in the back of the warehouse ??? Policy being that the loading and unloading of capping shelf stock should only be done using an airport ladder. A manager once refused me an airport ladder to unload a shelf, ( yes I was being awkward) stating no ladders are allowed on the shop-floor for H&S reasons, so "just do it" :o I found it extremely hard to conceal my smug look when I presented the written rule under his pompous snotty nose  ;)

Do you know where i can find this rule please? My store manager and stock control manager have asked us to start doing capping shelves but i only get a step stool. I'm not the tallest so sometimes i feel a tad unsafe shifting the boxes around on top of shelves
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: genome on 26-07-19, 05:14AM
If you don't feel you can do it safely, don't do it. your safety comes up top and don't let them try to claim otherwise.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 26-07-19, 05:38AM
Speak to your H&S rep who should be aware of this, or an USDAW rep. it was a section in a monthly newsletter that USDAW sent to reps years ago, which I produced to the manager.
It could also be online in Tesco policies for people section, which I am no longer able to access.

Maybe another poster can point you in the right direction...but no one should be lifting above waist height, and certainly not from overhead. :-X
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Tommo1961 on 26-07-19, 08:25AM
Surely with the cut to stock control hours you don't have time to do cappers.  ( we did these as part of scheduled areas, ).  These jobs where made redundant.  Over the last few weeks the workload is gradually creeping back up.  We are now expected to do all the jobs done by 5 people and there are only 2 of us.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 26-07-19, 10:40AM
My apologies that should have read "wrist height" not waist height  8-)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 26-07-19, 07:56PM
Yeah jobs are creeping back......and my hatred is growing.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: forrestgimp on 26-07-19, 09:14PM
Quote from: Siwel123 on 26-07-19, 12:37AM
Quote from: lucgeo on 23-07-19, 06:25AM
If they want you sorting capping shelves, then they need to ensure the airport ladders haven't rotted away in the back of the warehouse ??? Policy being that the loading and unloading of capping shelf stock should only be done using an airport ladder. A manager once refused me an airport ladder to unload a shelf, ( yes I was being awkward) stating no ladders are allowed on the shop-floor for H&S reasons, so "just do it" :o I found it extremely hard to conceal my smug look when I presented the written rule under his pompous snotty nose  ;)

Do you know where i can find this rule please? My store manager and stock control manager have asked us to start doing capping shelves but i only get a step stool. I'm not the tallest so sometimes i feel a tad unsafe shifting the boxes around on top of shelves


Do the latest training on health and safety  its on the training thing on the computer I just did it and it specifically states that to utilise capping shelves you have to use airport ladders and nothing else. It even shows you what they are and how to use them in the video. If the manager insists tell them its against company policy and you will be complaining.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 27-07-19, 09:01PM
Oh interesting. I can't reach capping at full stretch on a kick stool. Have to remember this rule.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: forrestgimp on 28-07-19, 08:10AM
Next time I'm in work I will find out the exact training module its in for you, but it's a 2019 one I do know that much.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 28-07-19, 09:36AM
Thanks for that verification Forrest  :thumbup:

Or colleagues could just say no, as they felt it was an unreasonable request and they felt it would be unsafe...with a bit of luck, the manager will be so excited to suspend someone for refusing a reasonable request, ( because you've subliminally put that phrase in their head ) making themselves look all so important, that you'll be escorted off the premises, in full view of everyone and get a fully paid little holiday out of it  ;)

Week later, after long drawn out meetings, adjournments and moving onto disciplinary, you happen to mention the policy and where it can be found.

Manager gets bollocked, has to apologise or you'll grievance for dignity at work, which goes out of store RESULT!!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: tescopleb on 28-07-19, 05:06PM
I'm pretty sure it was in the original briefing pack, if anyone still has a copy
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: C-Dub87 on 29-07-19, 12:04PM
Ex-stock controller here. Left not super long ago, long enough to see the new restructure however. Wish they'd made me redundant but new job offer and filling in the availability form didn't quite come together at the right times - ah well. Looking at the way things were going, I knew they'd start putting jobs and routines back on the agenda, despite the new routines not working very well in our larger store as it is.

Friends have commented to me that my former store is looking progressively worse in terms of stock availability, probably a combination of the "simpler" routines, nights not really stepping up and delivering, and the planks they replaced my experienced colleagues and myself with, and I knew that head office would start asking more and more from within the scope of the new hours. First it's the capping shelf, then they'll start to see shrink getting wildly out of control and mismatch will return, with the poor sucker doing gaps that day expected to do that extra job too.

Stock control used to be an interesting if underpaid role, but the people you worked with made it worth it. Now it's just cut to the bone, heavily focused on the most boring job, and you hardly see anyone on your team, especially when 4/5 of your days have been slashed down to 3 hours with no break. To add insult to injury most of the stock controllers are not seeing a pay rise due to "protected pay" and losing their bonus to boot, and it makes it one of the worst jobs to have in store nowadays.

Glad I got out when I did. There's life after Tesco and I'm much happier now.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: madness on 29-07-19, 12:22PM
Why do you have stock on the capping shelves that was rid of ages ago.  Best thing the company has done, as stock is more accurate less in the building etc.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 31-07-19, 12:42PM
Yes i find jobs are massively creeping back in and it's alarming.
In an 8 hour shift I'm expexted to do a full grocery gap scan, a full fresh gap scan, grocery counts for the day, fresh counts for the day, osi the capping shelf boxes that don't have labels printed on them and I'm still getting asked whether i can do this or do that
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 31-07-19, 03:16PM
Siwel I'm much the same. I do my OSI until its all stickered, then Grocery Gaps, then counts but don't get them finished so I leave a stack of counts and the Fresh Gap Scan everyday. Hand over to duty and go home.

In between that are constant checkout calls and arguments with the team leaders that want me on there because they couldn't manage a p**s up in a brewery.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 31-07-19, 03:36PM
I've not been chased about osi yet so I don't do it, simple as TheAnonymousWorker, until I'm formally told what to do I act stupid.

I do both my gapscans then try do my counts but I normally leave a quarter of fresh and all my grocery counts.

I agree 100% with the call outs, I love the guys on there but I can't do both and each side gets in a hissy if I respond or don't respond.

If it continues like this I'm just going to tell my manager I refuse to work the Sunday I'm contracted to do all this and tough s*** find someone else.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 31-07-19, 03:42PM
Quote from: lucgeo on 28-07-19, 09:36AM
Thanks for that verification Forrest  :thumbup:

Or colleagues could just say no, as they felt it was an unreasonable request and they felt it would be unsafe...with a bit of luck, the manager will be so excited to suspend someone for refusing a reasonable request, ( because you've subliminally put that phrase in their head ) making themselves look all so important, that you'll be escorted off the premises, in full view of everyone and get a fully paid little holiday out of it  ;)

Week later, after long drawn out meetings, adjournments and moving onto disciplinary, you happen to mention the policy and where it can be found.

Manager gets bollocked, has to apologise or you'll grievance for dignity at work, which goes out of store RESULT!!

Then the managers are gunning for you because you've made them look stupid, petty, childish and incompetant incompetent. You get another paid holiday and allowed back to the funny farm. Then slip in a sick line here and there and after all those holidays you realise you've only worked 1 month of the year. When is the investigatory/disciplinary being held
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Nomad on 31-07-19, 08:11PM
"because you've made them look stupid, petty, childish and incompetent"

I think you'll find they manage that task on their own, at regular intervals.

Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 31-07-19, 10:27PM
You are always right Nomad.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 07-08-19, 01:40AM
How is everyone still finding the new routines?

Today was good to be honest, there was 3 of us in so we smashed through a backlog of stuff, grocery gaps got done, fresh gaps done, all counts done, long life on yoghurts and 2 other areas that have slipped my mind and low line on a couple of aisles.

However this was a lucky day with 2 of us in as overtime or extra hours on our shift. No way could a colleague have got a gap, counts, a low line and a long life date scan done by herself whoch is what she was down for
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 07-08-19, 05:04AM
Get done what we can past caring it's soul destroying, no one give a s*** star lines, stickers this ain't stock control.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: londoner83 on 07-08-19, 07:05AM
Dont kill yourself trying to deliver tasks that are impossible to complete in the time allowed.  Just do what you can and as long as you work productively there is little they can do about it.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 07-08-19, 03:03PM
This week? With two of us in 6-2. OSI in the mornings goes to 10am and sometimes after. Getting hammered because the stores availability is s*** and apparently its our fault as we havent been doing low lines. One of us do Grocery gaps, other fresh gaps then counts. Then the Grocery gaps person jumps over to counts too. 535s not getting completed. Checkout service calls constant. Really losing the head now, keep getting told i'm "making excuses" when the jobs not done, nothing to do with large levels of stock decked and dropping time to checkouts. The attitude I get from managers as well when I hand over that SC counts aren't finished is shocking too.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: DJL on 07-08-19, 03:45PM
Last time I did low lines on grocery was prior to WK12, so although they can help, it's not the be all and end all; my store green/blue each day

Store needs replenished accurately, gaps completed and low lines of time time, which we never do anymore due resourcing 
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 07-08-19, 04:02PM
Pretty sure it's the produce daily low line and star lines that will effect your stores availability should be in the brief.  No time to do lows anywhere else.  DJL is spot on with the replenishment side of it but you would think filling a shelf is rocket science for some people.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 07-08-19, 04:34PM
Stores with nightshift lose so many sales during the day. The dayshift should be filling too. Some customers risk H&S by taking cases from the top shelf because the assistants can't keep on top of the work.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 07-08-19, 05:12PM
Good point if there were any day staff and that wasn't a dig at nights by the way.  We've a twilight fill mainly students who couldn't careless.  No point trying to cling onto things of old this is a new era of who gives a f***.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 07-08-19, 05:30PM
Quote from: TheAnonymousWorker on 07-08-19, 03:03PM
This week? With two of us in 6-2. OSI in the mornings goes to 10am and sometimes after. Getting hammered because the stores availability is s*** and apparently its our fault as we havent been doing low lines. One of us do Grocery gaps, other fresh gaps then counts. Then the Grocery gaps person jumps over to counts too. 535s not getting completed. Checkout service calls constant. Really losing the head now, keep getting told i'm "making excuses" when the jobs not done, nothing to do with large levels of stock decked and dropping time to checkouts. The attitude I get from managers as well when I hand over that SC counts aren't finished is shocking too.

Oh the "I don't want to hear excuses" old chestnut! My answer was always..." It's not an excuse, it's an explanation, if you don't want to hear the answer then don't ask the question!!"

Make a note of every minute you are away from your department, answering a checkout call, assisting a customer or requested to assist another department. Then ask to see your job description, time allocation and where it incorporates for the above. Then if their insistence is that you have the time, ask for a capability study!!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 07-08-19, 05:35PM
Just to add to this where's your manager.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 08-08-19, 12:45AM
Probably sitting in the confidential. Now to be fair this week my TM has helped, but the last 4 weeks the support from the TM was scarce.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 08-08-19, 10:36AM
Our TM is always off sick don't know how many times they've played the sore back excuse.  They wouldnt even think of coming to work and going on self scans while the regular checkout staff helps filling.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: DJL on 08-08-19, 11:01AM
Obviously a pretty poor TM then, don't paint us all with that brush though! As a few have said, and I can also say in my years with the firm, most TM's are utterly useless; no people skills, no technical skills just 'yes' men & women who toe the line, however, I can honestly say that I would never leave any of my team members feeling the way you guys are feeling!  I would do all SC Routines alongside them, every single day, from OSI to date scanning to 142 Counts, I also tell the CO's to do one each time a look comes my way for support!

You need to be chatting to your TM, have an open conversation with them and if they can't support you, then you know they are a 'yes' person; so this means you can only do what you can do in the time allocated to you! It's not your accountability for any SC Routine, it's theirs! 
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-08-19, 12:08PM
In Express, Shift Leaders don't go off sick, if you do your name is mud and you'll be demoted, I would have thought TMs going off sick would cause the SM to start managing them out of the business.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 08-08-19, 06:45PM
Could you ve our team manager? Pretty please. Ours is understanding of our struggles but doesn't really help with anything, so we then get bitched at by the other managers.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Lostrebel on 08-08-19, 10:46PM
My stock control manager in my old store wouldn't be seen out of the office. He doesn't do any lates and doesn't believe the fresh potential reductions are his as he doesn't do a late. So the other team managers have to pick it up. He only has 4 stock controllers yet probably gets paid more then the other team managers...
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 09-08-19, 11:30PM
Quote from: Lostrebel on 08-08-19, 10:46PM
My stock control manager in my old store wouldn't be seen out of the office. He doesn't do any lates and doesn't believe the fresh potential reductions are his as he doesn't do a late. So the other team managers have to pick it up. He only has 4 stock controllers yet probably gets paid more then the other team managers...

That's absolutely terrible, did no senior managers pull him up on it?
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 10-08-19, 01:14AM
Another question, apologies for so many  :) , how long would you say it would take you to do a grocery gapscan and counts? This is in a large extra, so 4 frozen aisles, 14 grocery aisles and tobacco
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: DJL on 10-08-19, 04:43AM
Max 2 hours, that includes disco lines, confirming counts ect
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 10-08-19, 07:10AM
 8-) in an ideal world maybe...if the rest of the team are covering it properly in your absence, keeping on top of the disc, gap scanning all the lines and updating the labels :-X
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: londoner83 on 10-08-19, 07:43AM
Hard to give a timescale as it depends on:-
- having to respond to service calls.
- amount of time spent interacting with customers
- how often you need to reboot pda/printer due to signal loss.
- whether you have to call helpdesk around signal issues.
- whether your replenishment team actually replenished the delivery. (Much quicker if few gaps and minimal instores)
- whether person doing routines day before did a proper job.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: DJL on 10-08-19, 08:22AM
Agree with all points however I'd say this, if you have been doing the same role then you should have a pretty good idea where stock is situated on SF and in WH, by paying attention to stock when you are doing your routines, allows you to quickly identify where stock is.

Your right in saying that Replen needs to be consistent with accurate fill at the shelf edge, warehouses need to be managed and loose stock turned regularly.  These new routines should not take long, I've just completed an OSI, gap scan and deli counter scheduled count, it's not 9am yet. The shop is a mess but I've kept an eye out all week to help me get through these routines in a decent timescale. I will have completed the 40 odd countdown I can we on ambient before my tea around 9!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 11-08-19, 01:42PM
In my store, 2 hours for gaps isn't enough. We're struggling on our allowance at the moment though it should be more achieveable if our OSI volumes lower.

Can I ask, in terms of airport ladders for putting stuff on capping shelves, does anyone know where this is? Looking through OurTesco and can't find it.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 11-08-19, 01:47PM
Forrestgimp has stated its on a H&S video that people are being trained on, it should be earlier on in this thread. Reply #33
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: TheAnonymousWorker on 11-08-19, 01:51PM
Thanks lucgeo
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 11-08-19, 02:48PM
This will upset a few people in my store, everything by the book from now on.  I'm sure when everything was trialled H&S was at the forefront twats.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: express whizz kid on 11-08-19, 05:28PM
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Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: q2000 on 12-08-19, 03:12PM
Sounds like Tesco making mistakes with job changes

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/tesco-worker-unfair-dismissal-role-changes/ (https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/tesco-worker-unfair-dismissal-role-changes/)

QuoteTesco worker 'left in the dark' about role was unfairly dismissed _

stock manager at the retailer's Caerphilly branch, was told that there would be some "minor" changes to her role and it would be renamed "stock and admin manager".

Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 12-08-19, 03:28PM
 Typical uncaring ways now I hope they get more staff taking them to tribunals......s*** bags deserve it.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NightAndDay on 12-08-19, 04:12PM
Quote from: q2000 on 12-08-19, 03:12PM
Sounds like Tesco making mistakes with job changes

Tesco worker 'left in the dark' about role was unfairly dismissed _
stock manager at the retailer's Caerphilly branch, was told that there would be some "minor" changes to her role and it would be renamed "stock and admin manager".

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/tesco-worker-unfair-dismissal-role-changes/ (https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/tesco-worker-unfair-dismissal-role-changes/)

Does anything actually happen to the line manager, Store Manager or Personnell Manager when Tesco loses an unfair dismissal case due to not following process/poor judgement or does Tesco's legal budget give them enough padding to not care about managerial incompetence?
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Redshoes on 12-08-19, 09:07PM
Will all be behind closed doors, we will never know.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 12-08-19, 10:45PM
They've made so many f ups in my file I can't wait for them to give me the boot. The information I have not kept from the meetings I will be requesting to send to an employment lawyer who can rip them to shreds. Warnings based on rational, more based on inconstent statements, warnings when the whole process should've been thrown out, warnings when they have resolved similar informally before...
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: DCI Banks on 11-10-19, 10:16AM
Hi, is promotion and star lines still being decked for osi in your stores?  The volumes we are having to pick up is ridiculous , store manager insists all stores have to do it
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lordadmiral on 11-10-19, 11:05AM
SS, OSI stay on cages as its to much work
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Totalb on 11-10-19, 12:25PM
I see they've decided to add back in all the old counts we used to do on fresh/produce over the Xmas period on a Sunday too. Bit of a joke since some of us lost those hours but are now expected to work overtime just to get them done. From what I can see by the vacancies they're not planning on bringing on any extra bodies to help with the added workload either. Surely someone somewhere has a bit of a screw loose if they expect us to just accept it
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 11-10-19, 12:49PM
The hours can become available again, as its after the six months of losing those hours so just refuse the overtime and refuse the Sunday working.  8-)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 11-10-19, 02:18PM
Don't make things easy for the company,their attitude is people will flex their hours up to accommodate these routines......just think back on how we've all been treated those who were made redundant and those who have kept their unbearable jobs.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: beentheredoneit on 12-10-19, 01:48AM
Quote from: DCI Banks on 11-10-19, 10:16AM
Hi, is promotion and star lines still being decked for osi in your stores?  The volumes we are having to pick up is ridiculous , store manager insists all stores have to do it
On my group, the SD wants ALL lines labelled, and all lines to be checked are left on cages (keeping shop floor clear at 5 am), which means double handling.
As FS manager, I have continually told him this is not do-able with the 2 part timers I have, who are both on fixed contracts (the two full timers went) and clearly against company guidelines.
As a result very little gets labelled - certainly no quality - and he has to pay overtime to get someone to label all the stock (not my team)
I am constantly asked when frozen will be OSId.
He wonders why the staff are not getting their training, and why we are continually having OOC on grocery.
Madness.
still, only 3 months to go now ........
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 19-12-19, 10:11PM
How's stock control going in everyones stores? Ours has been an absoloute shambles, but only the bloody days i do.
For example on saturday there was a total of 16 gaps for all bws, grocery, frozen and tobacco. For me on sunday there was 28 gaps on grocery alone, 20 on bws and 6 on frozen. Bloody p**s take
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Hammer10 on 20-12-19, 02:17AM
It does not help when all the shelves are not being filled aisles left never known anything like it.so much waste where it is being just put any where there is a gap .fridges bursting and milk will be going off sitting in the back yard right up to xmas eve think I will be buying powdered milk.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 20-12-19, 07:16AM
They keep re advertising the same hours for stock control staff at my old store.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 20-12-19, 10:17AM
Quote from: Siwel123 on 19-12-19, 10:11PM
How's stock control going in everyones stores? Ours has been an absoloute shambles, but only the bloody days i do.
For example on saturday there was a total of 16 gaps for all bws, grocery, frozen and tobacco. For me on sunday there was 28 gaps on grocery alone, 20 on bws and 6 on frozen. Bloody p**s take

Gaps on shelf...warehouse and top shelf full...more coming in daily which is not needed...
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 20-12-19, 11:15AM
It's just insane at the moment, to be honest with you i might just refuse to complete a gap scan this sunday, when I'm being told it's all worked and clearly it hasn't been with the warehouse bursting to the brim, there's no point in doing my job
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 20-12-19, 11:38AM
Any excuse if you had done your job in the first place maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 20-12-19, 11:55AM
Ah yes because i fill the shelves don't i? I also decide what central office orders don't i? Plus I'm also clearly personally responsible for the whole tesco distribution network.  Ooh also forgot must be me that decides all the planograms and how to lay out the store. Silly me ay.

Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NightAndDay on 20-12-19, 05:21PM
Quote from: Cleaner1 on 20-12-19, 02:18PM
Quote from: Siwel123 on 20-12-19, 11:55AM
Ah yes because i fill the shelves don't i? I also decide what central office orders don't i? Plus I'm also clearly personally responsible for the whole tesco distribution network.  Ooh also forgot must be me that decides all the planograms and how to lay out the store. Silly me ay.

What good are you to a supermarket if you don't fill the shelf's. You'd be as well cleaning the shiters. Who cares about head office and distribution or the planograms. Silly you. Do your bit and don't spew Tesco out your hole. Just do your s**t job on s**t money and don't talk about how s*** it is. That's the issue. I reckon you're the type of colleague who goes running to management on a daily basis when you know they don't care either and you're just as bad.

Using that logic shelf fillers should also be doing stock control, if it's not his job then he shouldn't do it, don't hate the player hate the game.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 20-12-19, 05:35PM
He also forgot that he said I'm at fault for the shelves not having the products on them. Isn't that you know the fault of people for not putting the products on the shelf?

He just seems a bit grumpy bless him, must have been a tough day .

Also don't lick managements arse, always find the people who say others do are generally the ones that actually do it
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 20-12-19, 07:49PM
Routines aren't working.....funny that.Stock control got f***ed over at  the beginning of the year,enough said.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 20-12-19, 09:27PM
Absoloutley agree with you there
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: VladPutin on 21-12-19, 06:09AM
The fault lies with Center. Stock control in the stores has little to no impact on the amount and type of fresh stock we actually receive. That's decided by someone sitting on their fat backside in an office who doesn't have to deal with the problems in the real world.

It's not that the, "people" working in Center are worthless; they actually have negative worth. They make the world a worse place just by living in it.

So they should stop doing so... >:D
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lordadmiral on 21-12-19, 09:03AM
Quote from: lucgeo on 20-12-19, 07:16AM
They keep re advertising the same hours for stock control staff at my old store.
our old stock control worker come back:D less hours but is back  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D .
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lordadmiral on 21-12-19, 09:11AM
Quote from: VladPutin on 21-12-19, 06:09AM
The fault lies with Center. Stock control in the stores has little to no impact on the amount and type of fresh stock we actually receive. That's decided by someone sitting on their fat backside in an office who doesn't have to deal with the problems in the real world.

It's not that the, "people" working in Center are worthless; they actually have negative worth. They make the world a worse place just by living in it.

So they should stop doing so... >:D
Something is wrong with Inventory control/management.  It feels like someone is just pushing stock to the stores or there is something wrong with entire system and no one knows where is the problem.  It feels like company is reverting to situation like it was over decade ago.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 21-12-19, 04:13PM
Wait till after Xmas when the idiots want all overs
investigated......have a look at the Xmas recovery cutover joke........lies catchup with you in the end Tosco.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Samantha on 21-12-19, 07:40PM
There is no room in our store in the warehouse to put the stock, the same with fresh stock as well.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 21-12-19, 10:31PM
Our warehouse is now rammed, milk and butter etc are even being stored outside of the chiller, which never normally happens.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 22-12-19, 08:21AM
Milk...outside a chiller :thumbdown: (-*-)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: just curious on 22-12-19, 10:05AM
I would like to bet that three quarters of the stores have milk / chilled gods left in a corridor or back yard , the other quarter of the stores will be running short of stock all because of central planning . ( Also all the warehouses have had to clear the depots of Christmas lines so that they can have the Easter stock in storage - would like to bet that Cadbury cream eggs , mini eggs etc are already in store waiting to go n display in the new year ? )  ??? ??? :-X
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Long gone on 22-12-19, 05:46PM
Quote from: just curious on 22-12-19, 10:05AM
I would like to bet that three quarters of the stores have milk / chilled gods left in a corridor or back yard , the other quarter of the stores will be running short of stock all because of central planning . ( Also all the warehouses have had to clear the depots of Christmas lines so that they can have the Easter stock in storage - would like to bet that Cadbury cream eggs , mini eggs etc are already in store waiting to go n display in the new year ? )  ??? ??? :-X

Ours was in the back yard at one point when there was snow on the ground, it was colder outside than in the actual chiller. Bad thing is though that a delivery came and was left outside and 30 minutes later management ran in the warehouse and got as many staff members to drag it up from outside because environmental health had come in the store for a random check  😂
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jobless on 22-12-19, 06:56PM
The health and safety executive should be contacted.  I am sure on the week leading up to Christmas they would find a visit to most stores worthwhile.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NightAndDay on 22-12-19, 09:32PM
Tesco are protected by the government, they'll just get punitive fines for breaching important regulations and Health and Safety, The government needs Tesco due to how important is to the national economy.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 24-05-20, 12:10AM
How is everyone on stock control coping at the moment? It has been a mad few weeks and my store still hasn't fully recovered with tons of gaps still on the grocery side. And obviously the massive osi and low line push went down a treat ;D . With routines now starting to get back to normal but the stores not being normal, it could be an interesting few weeks
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 25-05-20, 09:27AM
Going to ask what risk assessments have been done tomorrow it’s alright wanting the crappy routines done but safety surely is more important.Seeing people as hours not people is wearing very thin......you would think the pandemic was over in Tesco world.Gaps are massive still in days of old when you actually cared it might have bothered you not anymore.Osi  what a treat when it’s just you it’s like the company has become Charlie browns teacher they talk but none of it makes sense......also got told MST are being run through the night my manager has already said it will be a joke trying to staff it,more noise not making sense.Yep totally disillusioned have been since last May.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 25-05-20, 01:01PM
Agreed with the gaps being massive still, we had over 300 gap scanned on grocery alone, tons of discontinues to do and now counts being added on top. I can understand where tesco is coming from with counts in that it's important we start correcting stock record errors, however is now really the time?
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 25-05-20, 06:08PM
No it’s not important safety is.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 25-05-20, 06:24PM
I did say why now, i certainly don't agree with them being introduced again while stores aren't back to normal but i do understand that having an accurate count of stock is also important but 100% agree not over staff safety
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 25-05-20, 06:42PM
That’s the problem your just hours to them.I will be interested in the reply I Get tomorrow I will push the risk assessment.Just sick of the companies attitude to staff now.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 25-05-20, 10:07PM
Do let me know what they say, will be very interesting
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Flokianon on 27-07-20, 01:55PM
Can't seem to make a new topic so decided to write it in here. Just wondered how many staff work on grocery stock control and how many hours they do a day? As our store keeps pushing for more lows to be done even though company said they don't gain from it, also the amount of 142s/daily counts we get are higher than what was said in New role brief.

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Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Siwel123 on 27-07-20, 04:28PM
Monday to Friday we've one person dedicated to grocery stock control only, they work about 6 hours a day, do gaps and counts and then usually some OSI if they've time.
Saturday we've someone off the fresh side come in and do the gaps and counts but no OSI, they've 6 hours to do this, and then go OSI the fresh side instead.
Sunday we've one person to do both gaps and counts for fresh and grocery, they're on a 9 hour shift, but that person usually has someone come help them.

They could really do with having another person during the week to do lowlines and OSI properly.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 27-07-20, 05:30PM
One person me........stick to my guns if you want more then get someone else.Sick of the job now it's impossible.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: stockcontroller on 28-07-20, 06:31AM
Quote from: Flokianon on 27-07-20, 01:55PM
Can't seem to make a new topic so decided to write it in here. Just wondered how many staff work on grocery stock control and how many hours they do a day? As our store keeps pushing for more lows to be done even though company said they don't gain from it, also the amount of 142s/daily counts we get are higher than what was said in New role brief.

After the changes last year in the morning my store went from 4x full time and 2x part time in the mornings to 4x part time doing 6am-12pm Monday to Friday with 2 on Grocery and Fresh and 2 on Non-Food also 6am-12pm. We'd be expected to do OSI (which some days took up to 4 hours), Gap scan across Grocery and non-food, date rotation scan across grocery, 142 counts, consumables and full bakery counts, DSS, phone shop count, and low lines thrown in on top of that which was near on impossible even with 4 of us. Someone would come in 12pm-5pm Monday to Friday to do Fresh gaps, Fresh OSI and any 142 counts that we weren't able to get completed as well as the weekly horticulture count. Then the usual 3 guys in from 5pm until 9 to do pr's and bakery count. So really us who were working in the morning had a near on impossible job and the guys working in evenings had a really easy job and were hanging about doing nothing most evenings. Not sure who came up with the heat map in our store but it just seemed completely bottom heavy with not enough hours to get everything done.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Stevend088 on 28-07-20, 09:27AM
7.50
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jacks on 28-07-20, 04:27PM
@stockcontroller. OSI has become an obsession in my store. It can take up to half my shift leaving little time for my other routines. Our store does not follow the replenishment cycle. Days work delivery, nights pick up what delivery is left then work back stock/capping shelves. Surly that must throw out the SBO and the knock on does not show a true reflection in overs from delivery. Last years briefing guidance says it should take 2 hours for OSI
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 28-07-20, 06:15PM
The replenishment cycle has never been followed in our store,it was all based on the old hours just basically lies that the trials worked.Good opportunity to get rid of staff on older contracts.Stock control is a joke now.I couldn't care less anymore that's another knock effect.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: smegtour on 13-10-20, 04:26AM
Three years ago tesco made some stock control made redundancies and made our job simpler getting rid off delivery overs.how come tesco have bought this back with 2membership off staff and can something be done about this. Honestly for two people this is way to much to do also has anyone got a job description on what we are supposed to be doing,are we meant to be doing delivery overs.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 13-10-20, 07:37AM
Ask your manager for your job description, it should have all your tasks and time allocated for each...if it's there and has time allowance for it, then you can see if your department's running under hours...which undoubtedly it is. If it is, then you work your department to the best of your ability, if you don't have time to complete all tasks, they don't get done.

If it's not on your job description, then you just don't do it ever!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 09:20AM
I'm on my own I've given up .👌
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 09:47AM
There's a 3 week osi event which makes no sense as it was done over 8 weeks previously,they want delivery overs done every day on all departments apart from weekends, totally unrealistic given they destroyed stock control with their bullshitty cuts.Even my boss has been apologising to me for how bad it is ,Tosco lost the plotco.Never mind though if I get too stressed I can listen to whale on an app.😕
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 13-10-20, 10:41AM
Then extra hours would/ should have been allocated to cover this event, be it overtime or other dept/manager support.
Either the overtime has been refused by SM, to keep the wages budget down or given to another dept, or you're not getting the full support deemed necessary to complete these tasks. Ask your manager for a straight answer?
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 10:59AM
In days of old I would have bothered it's pointless now.Get through my shift and out.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Me2015 on 13-10-20, 01:08PM
Don’t forget the full counts which were scheduled at Xmas then Easter, so be more of the same this year where they will ask for non trained staff to support your f*** up the stock records!

Utter shambles of a head office team now, all yes men wanting to please rather than the proper teams we had who helped and supported us!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 02:32PM
Yep they can get on with it biggest laugh is they still think we care.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 02:38PM
Prime example of the BS today investigate all wines and spirits,consumables count,targeted counts gaps ....... the wine wasn't even worked they decided to do that after I had investigated it......didnt touch spirits the rest of my shift gaps and counts.No once was I asked if I was ok or needed help because no one gives a s*** about you.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: smegtour on 13-10-20, 03:01PM
we had delivery overs and the wine osi its getting way to much.Are we meant to be doing delivery overs now
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 03:10PM
God knows like I said no one gives a s***......anyway it's impossible on your own.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: smegtour on 13-10-20, 03:16PM
I agree they don't care a s*** all they want is more and more off everyone
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: smegtour on 13-10-20, 04:10PM
what annoys me is that we hve to do delivery overs every day and pick it up and put it back on the backstock,also with this xmas osi it has got impossible no help from my manager at all
how can tesco get away with this bringing back the rountines they got rid off.like some others on here i have had enough and i can't wait when my shift finishes
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 13-10-20, 07:47PM
i would say the majority of people have had enough........Funnily enough treating people like s*** is ok it’s all about hours not people.Not really sure how it adds up to looking after mental health etc.......treat people how they want to be treated.......like s*** obviously,and the mentality is yeah this is normal.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: tenapenny on 24-05-22, 06:43PM
Hi everyone
Just heard that stock control is been stream lined from June with loss of hours
Anyone else heard anything about this more info when I know more
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 24-05-22, 07:01PM
Reduced routines from week 17 gap scan 3 days a week,osi 3 days a week on every other week no redundancy on offer.all other routines remain affects packaged and gm stock the most,targeted counts increasing by 25% an extra 10 for our store.Kick a department that's already down but anyway.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 24-05-22, 07:21PM
Heard our store has to lose 60 hours but If there is no redundancy then I guess this means grocery and GM stock control teams will probably have to start assisting fresh stock control with date scans.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Warbeast on 24-05-22, 07:26PM
I did also hear something about full counts starting again. That could be completely wrong tho
With the OSI every other week what would that be doing couple isles a day or would it be delivery overs from the night before on every isle.

Our stick team has been told its going to be a soft change so no loss of hours. Just means they will be working on other departments also. 
Tesco is getting more like aldi and Lidl weekly now. 
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: fscer on 24-05-22, 07:26PM
Makes sense now that SC wasn't mention in the new Pick, Serve and Fill thing coming in Week 15.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 24-05-22, 10:47PM
Apparently there will be no more lows and overs too.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: fscer on 24-05-22, 10:51PM
OSI will be 3days every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 24-05-22, 10:59PM
The stock control team in my store has 15 people. I cannot see all of them remaining on there in light of this but our whole store is over hours so no idea where they can go.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: oldfashionedplayer on 25-05-22, 12:36AM
thats a huge amount, we have like half of that for an extra lol, and thats classed as overmanned...
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NorthernJ on 25-05-22, 01:36AM
We've got 2 grocery stock controllers 2 fresh stock controllers and 6 PRS scanners.
Total hours across the 2 grocery is 55
Total 2 across the fresh is 55.5
And total across the 6 PRS scanners is something like 96-100 hours.
The 2 fresh and 2 grocery are older and been in store for ages, and have always argued against doing PRS scans which is why we've got what feels like so many PRS scanners because the older people wont do it.
The other issue is due to lack of training half the PRS people don't have a clue about the rest of the SC routines.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Sherwoodforest on 25-05-22, 05:25AM
If they eliminate merchandising errors with capacities,distribution pick errors,gap scan errors(not looking for it)stuff sat in warehouse waste cages and incorrect counts,stock control wouldnt need many hours,i used to put money on the produce counts being wrong every week in our store,what was even more a joke,the recounts were still wrong,and the fresh senior manager didnt understand how it affected waste,productivity and availability,or maybe its just because they socialise with the stock control manager outside of work
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 25-05-22, 06:26AM
Quote from: NorthernJ14 on 25-05-22, 01:36AM
We've got 2 grocery stock controllers 2 fresh stock controllers and 6 PRS scanners.
Total hours across the 2 grocery is 55
Total 2 across the fresh is 55.5
And total across the 6 PRS scanners is something like 96-100 hours.
The 2 fresh and 2 grocery are older and been in store for ages, and have always argued against doing PRS scans which is why we've got what feels like so many PRS scanners because the older people wont do it.
The other issue is due to lack of training half the PRS people don't have a clue about the rest of the SC routines.

Same set up in ours although I think we have 4 on grocery stock which does seem too high, The older ones on grocery and GM stock control won't do any PR scanning which is why they have so many what feels like kids doing it. I reckon the older ones will be told if they want to keep hours they will have to start doing PR scan and a couple of  the younger ones currently on PR will be moved.

Plus I think the one's on grocery and GM stock control are on like 30 hours. Whereas some of the PR lot are on 11. So logically its going to be the ones who do PR that are most effected as I can see them moving the older ones into there but like I say, where can the younger ones then go.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: NorthernJ on 25-05-22, 06:44AM
Oh yeah I forgot about GM, but I literally never see them, theres two of them. I think they're like 35 hours combined.

I could see our store doing something stupid like PR in the morning if the older members of staff wont move their hours and having them doing it and moving the younger group of PR people onto other departments, but we're over hours everywhere so no idea what they're going to do, and the younger ones can't do earlier shifts because of college and uni so dotcom is out of the question.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: lucgeo on 25-05-22, 07:39AM
Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 25-05-22, 05:25AM
If they eliminate merchandising errors with capacities,distribution pick errors,gap scan errors(not looking for it)stuff sat in warehouse waste cages and incorrect counts,stock control wouldnt need many hours,i used to put money on the produce counts being wrong every week in our store,what was even more a joke,the recounts were still wrong,and the fresh senior manager didnt understand how it affected waste,productivity and availability,or maybe its just because they socialise with the stock control manager outside of work

If they eliminate people corrupting the book stocks...counting on stock that's been wiped off, re-facing the shelves and capacities but failing to put the new labels out, putting ex promo overstock into green trays with no indication as to its contents or amount per tray, continually moving OFD's around the store, overloading the capping shelves with boxes behind boxes again no indication as to contents as no labels facing out, storing kick stools in the warehouse rather than on shop floor in accessible areas, using stock control team as spare bods to assist every dept on all hands, red calls, dot com picks ( never fresh team ) which is probably why your senior fresh is such good buddies with the SC manager  ???
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Redshoes on 25-05-22, 09:24AM
Quote from: fscer on 24-05-22, 07:26PM
Makes sense now that SC wasn't mention in the new Pick, Serve and Fill thing coming in Week 15.

No mention of cash office, wages, CSD, PFS, bakery either.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 25-05-22, 10:13AM
The stock control manager in our store will be speaking to as many staff as she can today in person then probably have to phone the rest so that they don't hear it second hand.

That to me sounds like some will have to move department
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: londoner83 on 25-05-22, 10:14AM
Once hours marketplace is rolled out, wages will probably go. The amount of exceptions left should then in theory be minimal.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: fscer on 25-05-22, 11:30AM
Thinking about it now, I've barely done any S/C for a year now, I'm always either filling, picking or on a checkout.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: odif on 25-05-22, 01:06PM
Stockcontrol has been slowly dwindling away over time,
Title: Re: Stock control and changes
Post by: Jackwarda on 25-05-22, 03:06PM
so exactly what are these new work changes, who will it effect, when does it start and how will it affect current hrs of work availability
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: john henry on 25-05-22, 06:40PM
Look like we will find out on friday
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: seraph on 25-05-22, 08:53PM
From week 17 colleagues will need to spend around half the time they currently do on routines.

Few more daily counts
OSI reduced dramatically to 1 day (2? on grocery) every other week for each dept
Gapscan schedule changed to Fresh (M,W,F,S), Grocery (M,W,F), H+B (M,F) NFood (1 day)
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 25-05-22, 09:55PM
She's not my manager so could have been coy on purpose but when I asked today she said she eint know all the details until the end of the week
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: londoner83 on 26-05-22, 06:06AM
Would love to know how much of the bookstock the company expects to get OSI'd with thr dramatically reduced schedule?

Also thinking ahead with approx up to half the hours no longer needed in the dept where the hell do you get trained resources from to complete the likely full counts at Xmas? No one is being unskilled on stock during fill, pick and serve training?

Finally with the company constantly under pressure over OOC on the shelf why has additional hours not been invested in PR from the savings elsewhere? Will wait to see what Friday brings but from our frog scheduler screen it appears the hours we have for PR have been substantially cut.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jackwarda on 26-05-22, 07:27AM
@Seraph, wonder where this information comes from, no one has mentioned any of this change to us! a bit of a worry I guess!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 26-05-22, 08:44AM
Quote from: londoner83 on 26-05-22, 06:06AM
Will wait to see what Friday brings but from our frog scheduler screen it appears the hours we have for PR have been substantially cut.

Latest rumour in our store is a cut of 90 hours. I'm assuming this is the combined stock teams rather than just one dept eg Grocery but it still begs the question where will they go.

Only thing I can see happening is the older one's on grocery and non food stock being moved into doing some of the PR scanning but where will that them leave the kids who do it.... 

Losing 90 hours seems extreme though because even if gap scan is going an increase in 25% of counts per day will make up for it. That said our grocery stock team has 4 people in pretty much every day and I think realistically they only need two. 
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jackwarda on 26-05-22, 08:59AM
Rumour! so it is not actually fact then! Is Friday this week a confirmed day for announcement then! as i say no one has mentioned this to me at all!
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 26-05-22, 09:15AM
Yammer  thread says the fresh stock hours are wrong and will be updated Friday shouldn't have been cut.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 26-05-22, 09:40AM
Please note that Wk17 FROG Resources allowed hours are incorrect (they are too low for FFSC). They're being corrected in the scheduler update on Friday afternoon.From thread on yammer.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: seraph on 26-05-22, 09:57AM
Quote from: Jackwarda on 26-05-22, 08:59AM
Rumour! so it is not actually fact then! Is Friday this week a confirmed day for announcement then! as i say no one has mentioned this to me at all!
Not a rumour at all, your manager should have briefed you about it on tuesday afternoon or next shift. All the info was directly from the briefing document.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Checkout Superstar on 26-05-22, 10:06AM
Yeah Fresh stock control will not be effected which is why I said I believe  they will move the older ones from grocery and non food stock who are over hours and on 30 plus contracted hours into some of the PR scanning and possibly move some of the kids who currently do it elsewhere as i know our dairy section is under.

The older ones who avoid PR scanning will not be happy though. I don't blame them either. 
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 26-05-22, 10:21AM
I don't think they've been avoiding it,it hasn't been part of their Job it all depends on their availability your not that flexi if your full time,but let's wait and see what happens hey.It might be moving resource around your just a set of hours now anyway.....could be a total disaster in bigger stores.Personally I don't care anymore just come in and do whatever I'm told and go home.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jackwarda on 26-05-22, 10:25AM
Thank you, I am not in work for a while yet so wont know about meetings etc.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: fscer on 26-05-22, 10:31AM
I sort of cant wait for it. I've actually enjoyed doing random things when coming in. Been getting fed up with doing OSI everyday and then HO and nights making a mess of.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 26-05-22, 10:33AM
Osi is pointless all you do is fill and sticker up and now and again find stock .... and rest assured then ext day its a mess again.Pointless.every other week and 3 days a week will be even more pointless to be honest but they know best.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 26-05-22, 10:57AM
OSI always feels pointless when there's tonnes of stock taking up room on the capping shelf as 'Known Overstock' but those who know best feel it's great to force even more of the same carp in and wonder why aisles aren't being completed because colleagues are having to hand ball the same stock from a delivery cage to add to the mountain we're already sitting on. 1 single bag of sweets a day in sales doesn't warrant 99 bl00dy boxes of the stuff  ???
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Hoggy148 on 27-05-22, 06:38PM
Our shops losing around 40 hours on stock control.
Think fresh has 4 gap scans a week instead of daily and grocery only 3 now instead of daily.
Gm once a week
H+b twice a week

25% increase on targeted counts.

Just double checked I'm not going to post the specifics but the above applies to all large stores.
OSI one day per fortnight
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: penguin on 27-05-22, 08:40PM
OSI once a fortnight and gap scan a few times a week, best of luck with that. Both of said jobs need doing daily or you will have stock issues all over the place. The idiots in charge just never learn.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: fscer on 27-05-22, 09:58PM
No one in our store has been briefed about this yet.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 27-05-22, 10:47PM
the more I read it the bigger a joke it becomes.i would suggest any stockie to be as awkward as when it kicks in and just enjoy the show.Can you just stop that and check this will probably something you will get sick of hearing.
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: Jackwarda on 28-05-22, 07:13AM
Can I just say, we have not recieved any information [as yet] relating to any changes, is it just some stores, larger stores not affected!, all stores,  up to certain stores. Manager doesnt even seem to have knowledge about this at all. Where has this all come from [probably HO] and exactly how is it going to affect stock controlers, will there be letters or communication, to the people it effects please
Title: Re: Stock control
Post by: King1999 on 28-05-22, 08:43AM
The brief had larger store formats on it we were told osi every other week 3 days a week for grocery on the lowest stock holding days mon,wed and fri and gap scan going to be on those days + 25 increase in targeted counts everything else stays the same,non food and fresh also having less gap scans and reduced osi.It won't work already been doing click and collect I certainly won't be worrying about doing stock control anymore they couldn't even list us on the departments to multi skil in with all this new contract c**p......Your store size may not be affected they might just be trialling certain stores.They can try to micro manage as much as they want a set of eyes will always be better than a we've studied the data they've used to justify it.Hope it's a massive f*** up.