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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #100 on: 13-01-22, 03:26PM »
Unfortunately, rather predictably, the trading update today was not accompanied by any "good news" for staff - I had a look at the early comments on OurT@sco, and it appears they all mentioned this lack of "thank you or a bonus" - I do agree with the race to the bottom - but it does seem hard to understand. Hey ho.


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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #101 on: 13-01-22, 05:04PM »
A manager in Lidl gets about £12 an hour.  Retail has historically been a poor paid sector.  What do people expect.  Inflation is not 6% either.

We are NOT Lidl and Tesco used to be about £1 over the minimum wage when I started.

 Retail may be a poorly paid sector but Tesco wages have been going backwards in real terms for a long time. Tesco have made vast profits because of our combined efforts and also because of the pandemic but still they plead poverty when it comes to paying us appropriately. I'm sure you'll notice that senior management and above do not have any problems trousering their enormous payrises every year but grudgingly offer us crumbs that we are meant to be grateful for.

As for inflation not being 6%, well it's not far off that. Maybe your bills are not going up by much but I would say everybody elses' are. Prices in store are going up by an awful lot more than 6%, mortgages/rents are rising and don't start me on electricity!

I live in a very cold part of the country which is all electric. When I read about the increases coming for the 'average' household I'm actually quite envious as I'm already paying that and more. Goodness only knows what kind of increase I'm going to face.

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #102 on: 24-01-22, 08:42AM »
Market supplements for skills and Team Supports have stood still for three years. The 2021 pay review announcement stated that they would be reviewed jointly with USDAW to be concluded by the end of 2021.

News on this?

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #103 on: 24-01-22, 01:51PM »
When they brought in the skills payments you could see what they were thinking. The wage per hour has to go up if only to keep up with the living wage but skills payments do not. All these shift leaders coming in on what they think are decent wages are now finding out how poorly paid they really are.
 They have to do all the openings and closings and a lot of the work managers used to do. Managers leaving at 6pm latest, hand them a list of jobs that they want done by tomorrow, even though they've not got around to doing them. AM appears and picks out totally petty things to complain about (apparantly doesn't notice how understaffed we are) and these get added to the lists.
Shift leaders have to pick up overtime and have their shifts rearranged at short notice and all for a couple of £s extra an hour (£1.81?)

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #104 on: 24-01-22, 03:00PM »
The pay differentials for hourly paid roles have been decreasing year on year, whenever they do their pay reviews, the last few have been static pay increases to hourly paid roles regardless of skill level.

There was a massive Express Shift Leader retention problem years ago, it seems today nothings changed, the hourly pay has gotten worse when factoring in inflation, without shift leaders, Express stores can't run, they'll have to get SMs to run shifts which takes them away from their SM duties.

They really need to recognize Express Shift Leaders as salaried managers for the level of responsibility they have, compared to their competitors, at the moment they are the 2nd from bottom when compared with equivalent roles.

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #105 on: 24-01-22, 06:47PM »
Totally agree on the express shift leader pay, and I speak as someone who has done the job, but then wages in retail in general are on a race to the bottom, the days when Tesco paid a fair rate to those below management level has long gone, in fact those days went about ten or more years ago, now you can earn more working in the local Amazon warehouse and so on.
« Last Edit: 24-01-22, 08:45PM by Nomad »
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #106 on: 24-01-22, 06:54PM »
I know 4 Express SMs that in the past 5 months, about 70% of their shifts were running the early or late, one of them was baking for 1 month straight it's that bad, the Area Managers are acutely aware of the Express Shift Leader retention problem, so much so that the KPIs they have for SM performance around staff turnover and coaching shift leaders is currently embargoed (as far as I'm aware, specifically in London and Brighton stores where the cost of living are the highest in the country and as such, where recruitment and retention is currently most challenged) as all SMs in the group bar 1 or 2 exceptions would fail.
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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #107 on: 24-01-22, 09:28PM »


The pay differentials for hourly paid roles have been decreasing year on year, whenever they do their pay reviews, the last few have been static pay increases to hourly paid roles regardless of skill level.

There was a massive Express Shift Leader retention problem years ago, it seems today nothings changed, the hourly pay has gotten worse when factoring in inflation, without shift leaders, Express stores can't run, they'll have to get SMs to run shifts which takes them away from their SM duties.

They really need to recognize Express Shift Leaders as salaried managers for the level of responsibility they have, compared to their competitors, at the moment they are the 2nd from bottom when compared with equivalent roles.

You mean like the Deputy Managers that each Express had until 6 or so years ago?   ;)

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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #108 on: 24-01-22, 10:06PM »
DSM's were made redundant as a cost cutting measure, to Dave's credit though, that was one of his better decisions, you do not need 3 layers of management in an express store, each DSM was replaced with 1 shift leader and 1 part time shift leader, the mistake came from not increasing Shift Leaders pay in light of their "5%" increase in responsibility.

For what a Shift Leader does in Express, they are easily equivalent (in some cases more so) than TMs in superstore, especially now that they have SL's in the structure, the main key difference is SL in Express and SL in SS is that the Express SL is the highest authority present 80% of the time when the SM isn't there, they also have responsibility for the premises and S&L while in SS there's someone more senior who manages that present.

SL in Express should have always been a salaried role at around just above base TM salary (in todays money about £24k a year.)
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Re: Pay Increase 2021
« Reply #109 on: Today at 06:42 AM »
I know a bit too much about Express having spent 3+ years as a TL. The SL role is very varied in demand. A well-staffed shift and you can get a lot done without too much stress, but find that you have only one CA past 19.30 and a late grocery delivery and life can be quite unpleasant. I'm doing my best to avoid going back.

Howver, back on topic, I'll be interested to see how much of a rise on the skills payment is offered and whether they fudge it further by offering extra in London for example.