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Quote from: lucgeo on 31-01-23, 08:48AM

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 31-01-23, 01:06AM

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

I would suggest you read your post again  you have just outlined your own future demise!

I recall the People Partners lack of empathy and compassion during previous culls of GA's facing redundancy, either accepting unfavourable/ unworkable changes or leave..."you know where the door is!"
The same ones who were crying and expecting support and compassion when they later faced the same fate!

As a store manager you are far from safe my friend! As you say simplification of processes and digital advances will make single store managers surplus to requirements! Looking at the bigger picture here, it will become commonplace to have just one store manager oversee and manage several stores in the area.
Meetings between teams in different stores will be on zoom.

Only the ones who can adapt and change will survive. All will be monitored on performance to deliver! What they get away with now in their own little sanctuaries, hiding behind their "yes boss" team will be removed, as other stores will not be so loyal or happy take the bullet to save your arse at the risk of a bad annual review!

The tiers of higher management, on big salaries and bonus's is definitely on their radar, then it will be..."Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay YOUR bills."

Fantastic news. I must have missed that section within our new contract. I'll now refer the numerous debt collection agencies to Tesco so as to collect monies owed from them for non payment of my bills.

SS taking 850k - Losing Lead and two TMs going to SM, Services, Fresh, Grocery and Admin.

No change to Team Supports (my guess is next year however). PFS hours may change, I'm told.

We lost nights a year ago, took on 5 SLs.

The simplification of admin isn't just happening in Retail but a number of industries, ERP suites automate much of the head office admin and payroll and reduces the burden on front end admin as well.

We're in the midst of an era of deglobalization, supply chains are more regional and segmented than before covid meaning inflation is going to be a much bigger factor for us than the past 15 years before covid, what comes with higher inflation is higher interest rates, and that is anathema to businesses as they can no longer borrow money so cheaply. With this being the case, competition increases and to achieve that, supermarkets must operate as lean as possible with a strategy on customer value at the forefront.

A career in Retail is set to get worse, the best thing anyone can do is to diversify their skill set, this is much easier said than done for a lot of people as I know too well that most positions at Tesco pays just enough to get by on without allowing any extra to develop yourself.

As someone who's been told where the door is by surly Retail Managers, went through the door and came back in through the door to a completely different position, going through that door was the best thing I've ever done.

The resilience you build up working at Tesco will serve you very well in a number of other companies. There are plenty of transferable skills that you pick up in Retail as well that has value in other industries, a bit of out of the box thinking and innovation in how you sell yourself will also serve you well.

Appreciate there are a lot of changes and we could go the way of the likes of BHS etc but how about the big T start to look at things like poorly stacked cages that cost money in waste and reductions too?

Heavy boxes of vegetable spread chucked on top of sandwiches and crushing them beyond all recognition. Things like that.

Yes, digital systems can be advantageous but look at some of the issues we have with ours.

Front end software that's riddled with bugs or having customers queue at the tills to top up their phones to find out they've got to queue *again* because the new software isn't capable of swipe cards for PAYG.

And not only that it feels like we are also paying the price for the failure that is Jack's and then Sky News are also reporting there are "rumours" the big T are in talks for a pre-pack agreement with Paperchase.

So, not only do Paperchase colleagues lose their jobs and stores close, people are demoted, made redundant or moved onto areas that don't attract skills payments just so we can 'spaff' money on a brand that's sadly a victim of the current climate and gone into administration.

Ah Jack's, now there's a name that Tesco want you to forget about.

It arrived with huge fanfare and how this was going to be the future but has disappeared with hardly a mention.

What's the salary different from shift leader to LTM?

Shift Leaders are on approximately £12 an hour (a few pennies above I believe), if you assume full time with Sunday premium/bank holiday premium, they're on around £23-24k a year currently.

Team Managers are on minimum £26k a year going up to around £36-38k a year I believe.

Lead Managers are on minimum £35-36k a year and can go up to about £60k-£65k a year I believe.

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 10:19AMAppreciate there are a lot of changes and we could go the way of the likes of BHS etc but how about the big T start to look at things like poorly stacked cages that cost money in waste and reductions too?

Heavy boxes of vegetable spread chucked on top of sandwiches and crushing them beyond all recognition. Things like that.

Yes, digital systems can be advantageous but look at some of the issues we have with ours.

Front end software that's riddled with bugs or having customers queue at the tills to top up their phones to find out they've got to queue *again* because the new software isn't capable of swipe cards for PAYG.

And not only that it feels like we are also paying the price for the failure that is Jack's and then Sky News are also reporting there are "rumours" the big T are in talks for a pre-pack agreement with Paperchase.

So, not only do Paperchase colleagues lose their jobs and stores close, people are demoted, made redundant or moved onto areas that don't attract skills payments just so we can 'spaff' money on a brand that's sadly a victim of the current climate and gone into administration.

Not to mention the leaking bags of raw chicken dumped on top of trays of cauliflower..

Quote from: General Thorn on 31-01-23, 12:33PMAh Jack's, now there's a name that Tesco want you to forget about.

It arrived with huge fanfare and how this was going to be the future but has disappeared with hardly a mention.

Actually Jack's lives on as a Tesco brand sold through Bookers - visit a Budgens store & you'll see!

Hmmmmmm letting good Managers go but hey lets buy Paperchase a new business instaed!!!!!

You do know Tesco is the size of a large town and as such can do many things than just make sure they have so called good managers and don't upset them when they do a restructuring 

Quote from: SpudChucker1970 on 31-01-23, 01:06AM

Quote from: whatajoke2019 on 31-01-23, 12:25AMGot to lose a night TM and two from days in our SS.

Needless to say morale is rock bottom right now.

Exactly where the share price should go...

Just hope the 🤡 who came up with this dross go from drinking Möet to Stockie lemonade now 🤣

What's the issue? Most management tasks are now redundant, or will be very soon with simplification of processes and digital advances. Why pay for a salaried colleague who isn't needed. Also, I'm a Store Manager, it's just not hard to see the bigger picture here.

People don't like change. Never have, never will. Don't like it? Leave. Tesco won't miss you, just remember they pay your bills.

Tasks have definitely been made redundant...but leadership has not....the Shift Leaders clock in/out ...if the job gets done...it gets done ..but if not someone else will get it ....the only drive you see from Shift Leaders is their car leave the car park .

I have first hand experience of SS working with the new format...it's not pretty....very few Team Managers step down....but more GA's taking the Shift Leader roles...but they lack the experience and leadership to deliver the role

What many don't realise is we are now in a period of collective consult meaning nothing is currently set in stone. Tesco will be consulting with colleague representatives and union representatives to propose the planned changes over 45 days.

If like many you are frustrated with the changes, you have a voice and now is absolutely the time to use it.

Many team/lead managers facing redundancy who are desperate to keep their jobs. And many team/lead managers not affected but have no desire to remain with the company. On my group many of the local affected stores have managers who would happily take the roles of those in unaffected stores.

If you are in the union I would highly recommend reaching out to your local office and speaking to your USDAW or SATA representative as they can feed this back to the collective consult via the national rep. The more feedback they have directly from their members the easier it is for them to aim for the right thing for us.

If you are not in the union you still have other forums to be able to feedback. Including during any meetings you may have in the coming days/weeks.

Not to say Tesco will change how they are approaching this however it requires of the voice of many to make us heard.

Many senior managers and line managers have been the most unproductive and least efficient staff on the payroll for years.

I can only speak of my experiences with the managers in the stores that I have worked in over the past 20yrs. I appreciate that there are hard working managers in the company, but they are rare.

Far too many of them have spent years spending 90% of their working week sat in an office.

In my experience the ship really started to sink when they first started getting rid of night teams and team leaders. Night teams done 95% of the filling and team leaders actually ran the departments with a hands on approach.

The scaling back of management has long been overdue. We need more GAs on shop floors.

The new manager role is more of an admin role. Shift leads will run the shop floor and free up managers to do the office based work that needs to be completed.
Some of the work has been simplified but overtime still needs to be requested and then launched. Reviews need to be done. Holidays need to be tracked etc. As we move towards colleague getting first pick of any hours in the store there will be more and more weekly changes to be made. Just the tip of the iceberg but these are the tasks that relate more closely to colleagues.

Its all being done off a points system. So unless the SM has been favouring certain managers over others for a while it should all be done fairly.

Problem is now all the brown nose useless managers who suck up to the store manager will score high in the selection process, and the good ones who do a good job and look after the staff will be out the door, making it even worse for the colleagues and cause a headache for the store manager, pushing the company into further decline

I personally know of 2 stores where GAs have not had reviews for up to 10yrs. I personally have not had a review since 2011. Store manager told me that reviews are soon to be done by ourselves through the app and managers will simply add feedback.

Reviews, holiday requests, overtime, rotas are all set to be done by the app. Which essentially can all be done on a mobile phone whilst sitting on a toilet.



Shift leaders are glorified fillers.

So tesco announced they are getting rid of managers etc, but yet on the same day they announce they are buying the paperchase brand. How does the company think the managers are affected going to react. I am one of many team managers affected by this. It is disgraceful the way the company has treated us. They do not care about cost of living or anything!! As long as they get their bonus its 2 fingers up to the rest of us

Quote from: Eskimo 2 on 31-01-23, 07:54PMProblem is now all the brown nose useless managers who suck up to the store manager will score high in the selection process, and the good ones who do a good job and look after the staff will be out the door, making it even worse for the colleagues and cause a headache for the store manager, pushing the company into further decline

The selection criteria won't allow any wrong doings.

Quote from: Ulsterlass on 31-01-23, 08:15PMSo tesco announced they are getting rid of managers etc, but yet on the same day they announce they are buying the paperchase brand. How does the company think the managers are affected going to react. I am one of many team managers affected by this. It is disgraceful the way the company has treated us. They do not care about cost of living or anything!! As long as they get their bonus its 2 fingers up to the rest of us

To ever think your anything but a number to tesco is silly. It's all about the bottom line for them.

I'm also effected, very little incentive for me or any other effected manager to deliver anything above showing up and booking whatever holidays my colleagues want for next year.

What will they do? Manage us now 😂

This shower of s*** running the show now can't run a p**s up in a brewery let alone a billions pound company.

how is it that the .com team managers are protected and not in the pool of people going through all this???

@rockley because there special,very very VERY special

Quote from: rockley200 on 01-02-23, 12:01AMhow is it that the .com team managers are protected and not in the pool of people going through all this???

Because dot com added to a store and not as a dedicated darkstore/warehouse losses the store money, sucks up staff when the pick is behind has to get the overtime hours for drivers, destroys the store standards, takes the best dates and has huge repair bills for unreliable vans.
That's why...