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Title: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 22-12-06, 07:49PM
Guy from our store rolled a van into a field late at night earlier this year, there was no evidence of him breaking the law and he had no recollection of what happened from 6 hours before to 12 hours after waking up in hospital. He was not disciplined, but was off work for 3 months.

Van arrived back to store on back of a lorry at 3am, was sent to Pullmans yard in Bathgate by our night manager who wouldn't let the lorry in the yard (it was leaking diesel, oil and refrigerant). Reckon they spent about 15k rebuilding the entire front end and shutter side of the van. Aircon still works though!

Anyone else heard of interesting or unusual incidents involving our delivery vans?

you shop, I drop
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: iworktoohard on 22-12-06, 10:21PM
dot comedy drivers are (on the whole) nutters. they think they are invincible.

you're on the far side of the yard, an artic is reversing into the loading bay to your right, the gate is on the other side of the artic, lets dive behind the artic. as he can see around corners and go for the gate. if there was no backdoorman there, there would be a squashed dotcom van against the compactor.

as for accidents on the road.. none that i know of.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 22-12-06, 10:38PM
Quite a while back now, I kew of a dot comedy driver who left the store with his shutters open, load exposed. He turned a corner and his load flew out onto the road. One of the drivers demonstrated to me that he could change gear without using the clutch, which made me worry about the safety of these vans.


I am not a number! I am a free man!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 22-12-06, 10:51PM
Yeah, someone (who has now left) did that in full view of a bigyin from head office, then denied it was him. He wasn't dismissed for that reason, but the only time i've had to drive with the shutter open it was jammed open and had the load tied in with red straps and a jump lead. Just as an experiment I tried to lose the load when i got back into the yard-no such luck. I'm not dot comedy enough obviously.

I can change gear without using the clutch or moving my foot from flat to the floor on the accelerator. OK so the van is a sequential automatic and doesn't have a manual clutch, so its not really a big deal.

The vans themselves are safe, its the drivers that can make them lethal/dangerous. This goes for ANY vehicle though, cars vans buses lorries the whole lot.

Sorry anonimity is sacrosanct on here,....no names please.
(my fault, I couldn't remember what his position was, something like stores director but at the end of the day It's not really important who saw they guy, its the fact he put others at risk)

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: spirit on 23-12-06, 03:48PM
Does seem that dot comedy drivers either are crazy to drive some the offered vehicles in their condition or are hellbent on proving that they can do it. Still a very useful income stream for Terry is dot comedy
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 23-12-06, 06:27PM
And he's laughing all the way to the bank...


I am not a number! I am a free man!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 24-12-06, 03:19PM
One of our Dot COmedy Drivers had a tree 'jump' out in front of him, and wrapped the van around it.
Happened on they day we got new vans.... for lowest accident damage in group!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 24-12-06, 04:49PM
Was it an old van or a new one?

I am not a number! I am a free man!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: hotlips on 24-12-06, 06:37PM
hope it wasn't the one who delivers my shopping. Mental note to self - make sure my car is not about when dot com delivers in future  ;D ;D :D

It ain't that COLD!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 24-12-06, 06:40PM
Me and the wife shop with Iceland, and we get our shopping delivered to our home through them. Just spend £25 or more and then pick a day and time, and it turns up! Just a shame that Kerry Katona advertises it.

I am not a number! I am a free man!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: stardust on 31-12-06, 02:01AM
quote:
Originally posted by shopfloor_jester

Me and the wife shop with Iceland, and we get our shopping delivered to our home through them. Just spend £25 or more and then pick a day and time, and it turns up! Just a shame that Kerry Katona advertises it.

I am not a number! I am a free man!


But then she gets photographed carrying.......... yep tescos carrier bags. ;D

grab each opportunity with both hands for it may never come around again!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 31-12-06, 02:13AM
It was an old van.
Also seen the damage done when one of the new vans fridge ddor wasn't shut properly. It gradually worked it's way open, and then hit a hard imovable object (namley a sign) and took the door off.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Snowy on 07-01-07, 04:09PM
We had one recently, but i can't go to any details yet.

We had one several years ago. I hear there was a picture of it posted on this site.

Through rage i ROAR!!!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 07-01-07, 06:19PM
we have an underground carpark and one of the dot com vans ripped off its fridge....
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 07-01-07, 11:35PM
How did it manage to do that?

I am not a number! I am a free man!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 08-01-07, 04:07AM
to get out of the store you need to go down first then back up a ramp, you can do this if you keep to the left as you miss the overhang, no one told the manager
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 09-01-07, 05:39PM
This was before you got those new vans down at Edinburgh 1 was it? I once got sent round the front entrance to take my (Colinton) van into the car park by your trading manager, he had 'forgotten' about the height restriction bar. I had to turn and drive back out the one-way entrance.

Colleague of mine tried to take a van into a courtyard off Dalry Rd (near Somerfield) and nearly took the refridgeration unit off, the box body wouldn't even fit through. All he got was a verbal warning.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 23-01-07, 04:42PM
One of my (multi-skilled) colleagues decided to drive into a wall with a van on Sunday night, needless to say the van lost the argument, and is now minus part of the front bumper and 3 gallons of coolant from the radiator. Chassis appeared dis-figured in the dark, so it will be deemed roadworthy by our cowboy-outfit garage and be back on the roads by next week. Photo should be available in link below. http://file026a.bebo.com/4/large/2007/01/21/23/7619691a3300653233b656634387l.jpg.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: CJO on 23-01-07, 10:30PM
Or in daylight...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j23/CJO_UK/2007-01-22019b.jpg




"Who left that there? Get it moved!"
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 24-01-07, 04:13AM
quote:
Originally posted by I.AM_a driver

This was before you got those new vans down at Edinburgh 1 was it? I once got sent round the front entrance to take my (Colinton) van into the car park by your trading manager, he had 'forgotten' about the height restriction bar. I had to turn and drive back out the one-way entrance.

Colleague of mine tried to take a van into a courtyard off Dalry Rd (near Somerfield) and nearly took the refridgeration unit off, the box body wouldn't even fit through. All he got was a verbal warning.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver



Yeah thats us lol, occasionally you see them going down the ramp, but not very oten, think they had a ticking off!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 24-01-07, 03:08PM
CJO - I see that they give you the shed's on wheels then.
My store currently has one while they service the vans in turn.
Driver's seem to be picking straws as to who will take it out.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 24-01-07, 06:03PM
Actually Geezer I think CJO just took a photo, unlike me he's not lucky enough to drive it! The van in the photo was actually borrowed from another store (Dalkeith), funny they didn't seem to want it back.....

We borrowed another similar van (SCX) a few weeks ago, but when I took it out the refrigeration didn't work and the chiller was missing 3 rails, so i put it straight off the road when i got back, carrier transcold came and took it away to fix it. Thats the last I saw of it.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 24-01-07, 09:25PM
actually we got 4 new vans but the 4 old ones are still here too, very handy if one breaks down!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 31-01-07, 04:59AM
Tesco to bring dot comedy maintenance in house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4OkjFpOks    ;D

"Full load of banana MU's?"
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: iworktoohard on 31-01-07, 09:39AM
quote:
Originally posted by Bigfoot

Tesco to bring dot comedy maintenance in house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg4OkjFpOks    ;D

"Full load of banana MU's?"



oh dear.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Little Tinker on 31-01-07, 09:52PM
We call um WAD'S, Wannabe Artic Drivers. ;)

They wannabe but cannot be, especially when they see an artic in the yard, they just wanna show how good, or bad they are ;D ;D :D  :D

"There is no secret; there is nothing mysterious about a rucksack. All you need is money, passport, and a change of clothes. Forget the rest."
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 01-02-07, 03:22AM
no way of tracing that video!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 01-02-07, 04:36AM
The user profile on YouTube has another video of Lewes Bonfire Night. Guessing its going to be close by ;D

"Full load of banana MU's?"
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jester on 01-02-07, 02:57PM
Either way, a bit of DIY. I'll give him an A for effort.  ;D

Ketchup does not hide pepper...
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 01-02-07, 04:04PM
Thing is, it wasn't even that badly bent to start with!    :P  

"Full load of banana MU's?"
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 01-02-07, 10:10PM
Maybe I'd better remove my youtube video from my personal account and start a new account under a pseudonym. Will post the vid once i'm done.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 02-02-07, 07:22PM
Not the best video going, but as director, cameraman and driver I suppose I have to take responsibility. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi9clcRREh0

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Little Tinker on 02-02-07, 09:38PM
Good advert for richard hammond to watch bless him  ;D ;D

"There is no secret; there is nothing mysterious about a rucksack. All you need is money, passport, and a change of clothes. Forget the rest."
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fatty on 02-02-07, 11:15PM
Did he have EGGS on the delivery? :o  ;D

FATTY, (Moderator).
" May you live in interesting times."

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Little Tinker on 02-02-07, 11:20PM
Never mind eggs fatty, hope hes not carrying milk itl all be curdled  ;D ;D

8)  8)

"There is no secret; there is nothing mysterious about a rucksack. All you need is money, passport, and a change of clothes. Forget the rest."
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 03-02-07, 04:21AM
Curdled ???  more like milkshake  8)

Now it's time to get the cloak & dagger out!

Psycho eyes (Moderator)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fatty on 07-02-07, 02:48AM
Shaken not  ???  ;)  ;D stirred

FATTY, (Moderator).
" May you live in interesting times."

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 07-02-07, 02:55AM
After driving on the pot-holed roads in Edin, the suspension breathed a sigh of releif when I took it for a little drive along that track!

Nothing burst in that van, shopping or mechanical!

Its delivering to customers like that takes 1000s of miles out of the vans, can we refuse to deliver to such people?

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 07-02-07, 03:53AM
quote:
Originally posted by I.AM_a driver

After driving on the pot-holed roads in Edin, the suspension breathed a sigh of releif when I took it for a little drive along that track!

Nothing burst in that van, shopping or mechanical!

Its delivering to customers like that takes 1000s of miles out of the vans, can we refuse to deliver to such people?

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver



I would of thought somebody from HQ should take on some kind of assesment of the roads that local to your store taking account of the road conditions & what hazards an appear on a route or do they just realy on the locals to complain instead ??? :-x

An ordance survey map isnt that expensive or even look up their website. ;)

Now it's time to get the cloak & dagger out!

Psycho eyes (Moderator)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 07-02-07, 06:21AM
Wot no isotrak?  ;)  ;D

The Mrs (Administrator)
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much. Walter Lippman
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: TONKA on 07-02-07, 07:23AM
I would like to apologise to the dot com driver, who was driving past a golf club near Wigan yesterday at about 14.45, I am sorry if my golf ball woke you up when it clattered of the side of your van after a very wayward tee shot

Tonka (Administrator)

Bring me a shrubery

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 07-02-07, 02:08PM
LOL Tonka,
a bad workman always blames his tools.
Realises that I can't talk as I don't play golf
Ah s*d it.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 08-02-07, 04:29AM
quote:
Originally posted by Psycho_eyes

I would of thought somebody from HQ should take on some kind of assesment of the roads that local to your store taking account of the road conditions & what hazards an appear on a route or do they just realy on the locals to complain instead ??? :-x

An ordance survey map isnt that expensive or even look up their website. ;)


Its not that important, the new Galashiels Extra will be delivering there again soon. The choice for that customer is use sack barrow with 60-70kg shopping, walk over their (homemade) suspension bridge over the river, then 300 yards along the path to the house. Either that or drive 6 miles; 3 round the road and 3 back along the track seen in the video.

If anyone asks, i'm working on the value "No-one tries harder for Customers".

And whilst I'm on that particular subject:
http://file013a.bebo.com/9/large/2006/07/01/20/7619691a1245688031b279828006l.jpg
Its a ford, through a river. Not too deep on this occasion, and yes it is me driving, the off-road training in the land-rover certainly helped.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: POA Billy on 08-02-07, 06:11PM
Loved the pic of the new hovervan ;D

Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 08-02-07, 07:39PM
Maybe you'll be interested in this site:

http://vamp.idlers.org/~jaffa/

Now it's time to get the cloak & dagger out!

Psycho eyes (Moderator)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 26-02-07, 03:09AM
Finally got a photo of the wall our poor old IVECO embraced.

http://file027a.bebo.com/10/large/2007/02/25/21/7619691a3715362493b806064643l.jpg

I should point out that the scaffolding would be 8 or 9 feet high on level ground....

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 26-02-07, 07:37PM
Ashby had one of their brand new vans written off last month driver still off with broken wrist cracked ribs etc he is a psycho but not all like that police not pressing charges a tesco issue. we all know what that means!
I had a couple of good minor sc**pes last year parked on hill for delivery behind parked car knew straight away handbrake not going to hold so left in gear while did delivery. Problem was whenpulled off  it's bit tricky doing reverse hill start no handbrake! best of it was mechanics had been in yard all night doing full works on them all and certified them all roadworthy!
The other occasion was with loaned van all drivers comented brakes not right i took it out one day had to stop sharp they let me go straight into back of someone wrote his car off. I got back to yard pullmans came out new pads wer put on within hour complete with discs 'cause pads had completely worn away and started to grind into old discs.

on slightly different subject does anyone know the new mobiles xda sort of thing is their tracking software or option likely to be used with them cause some of those xda's are capabable of utilising it
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 05-03-07, 05:04PM
quote:
Originally posted by Psycho_eyes

Maybe you'll be interested in this site:

http://vamp.idlers.org/~jaffa/

Now it's time to get the cloak & dagger out!

Psycho eyes (Moderator)


Seen it thanks. Look under 'Scottish Borders' and scroll down to West Linton. I have a few more photos to send them, keep a look out on the same page.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 25-04-07, 04:36AM
Tesco van overturns

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1350551.0.tesco_van_overturns.php


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Where all think alike, no one thinks very much. Walter Lippman
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 25-04-07, 05:03AM
I take it this chap was in a hurry then ???  >:D

Can anybody tell if these vans are THAT top heavy[?]

Now it's time to get the cloak & dagger out!

Psycho eyes (Moderator)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 25-04-07, 04:13PM
tescos response will be was his van loaded properly i.e in snake fashion. If so then this wouldn't have happened!  but these vans can be very unstable i have driven them! but the drivers that do not load that way appreciate their health more because you can end up with heavy orders at the top in some cases.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Youssarian on 25-04-07, 09:33PM
I've driven one of our vans on an unmade road plenty of times, but on one occasion the van rocked from side to side so violently that I thought I would tip over too!  Good job it didn't, I was right next to a lake...
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 26-04-07, 04:50AM
those vans have side steps so you can reach heavier trays and unload them while minimising risk to your back, and personally I'd rather that than be admitted to hospital for months to have reconstructive surgery done for road traffic accident trauma. Having said that these vans are safer than the older ones and anyone who can't handle it SAFELY (ie without rolling it) should be the first to get driver assessed and/or offered further driver training.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 26-04-07, 11:22AM
I drove for over 8 years and had to finish in the end partly down to fact i had injured my back through bad design on a van  the only accident i had in that time were proven to be faults on vans i.e handbrakes giving way and faulty brakes. I agree the new design vans are a big improvement,but there should still be restrictions as stated by health and safety as to what weight should belifted above chest height. Even with the steps there is still the possibility of overbalancing and falling backwards whilst trying to remove a wedged tray from sprained racking.  Trust me i've been there and got the back to last from it!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: hatless on 04-06-07, 06:59PM
quote:
Originally posted by ali p

but there should still be restrictions as stated by health and safety as to what weight should belifted above chest height. Even with the steps there is still the possibility of overbalancing and falling backwards whilst trying to remove a wedged tray from sprained racking.  Trust me i've been there and got the back to last from it!



It looks like hard work.  I know that drivers from Edinburgh 1 used to hate delivering to me.  The drivers had to park 150yds away because of railings on the pavement.  And then they would have to climb 4 flights of stairs to a top floor tenement flat.  My usual delivery always included 3 cases of beer/lager/cider, a case of value beans and a case of value tinned tomatoes.  It's not a job that I would volunteer for if I had a bad back.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 05-06-07, 03:31AM
quote:
Originally posted by hatless

quote:
Originally posted by ali p

but there should still be restrictions as stated by health and safety as to what weight should belifted above chest height. Even with the steps there is still the possibility of overbalancing and falling backwards whilst trying to remove a wedged tray from sprained racking.  Trust me i've been there and got the back to last from it!



It looks like hard work.  I know that drivers from Edinburgh 1 used to hate delivering to me.  The drivers had to park 150yds away because of railings on the pavement.  And then they would have to climb 4 flights of stairs to a top floor tenement flat.  My usual delivery always included 3 cases of beer/lager/cider, a case of value beans and a case of value tinned tomatoes.  It's not a job that I would volunteer for if I had a bad back.



Yeah they do hate delivering to you and everyone else, Edin 1 must have one of the worst areas, almost all drops in leith/city center is top floor!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: sjay22 on 01-07-07, 11:47PM
Don't know what store it was but I heard about a Dot Com driver driving straight past the house he was meant to be delivering to.  When he realised a few doors down he stopped without indicating, put it straight into reverse and without checking behind him just reversed all the way back to the house pushing the car behind him back with him!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: master73 on 10-07-07, 11:37PM
Here is a funny one.

One of our drivers decided to reverse van bearing in mind he had delivered shopping so should have been aware of his surroundings.
Well when he reversed he went straight into a lamp post and knocked it down.
He replied " I never knew it was there" so hence we all call him LAMPY...

Sorry mate

May the FORCE be with you always....
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the poet on 23-08-07, 06:19PM
I look in my mirror and what do I see?
Theres a white van man following me.
'though I stick to the limit as I always do.
He's ducking and diving to find a way through.

The traffic is heavy so he cant overtake.
I'm not pulling over just for his sake!
A little patience he'll have to learn.
He has on his face a look of concern.

He's in and he's out over the line.
If he wants to try it,with me thats just fine.
But if he comes unstuck I will not give way.
Then so behind me he'll have to stay.

His patience is waning,he's out and he's in.
If he has a go then his chances are thin.
He's poised like a coiled spring ready to go.
Caution to the wind he's willing  to throw.

Well if he is quick,I can see a small gap.
It looks like he's gonna be a brave chap.
Will he make it? Well he thinks he can.
Blow me down with a feather! Its a home shopping van!

( A whole new meaning to Tesco Express)

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: spirit on 29-09-07, 12:50AM
Seems like Tesco Dot Comedy Driver is typical White Van Man /Woman:) ;D :);D >:D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 08-11-07, 06:16AM
im a dot comedy driver an just the other day while out on my route id just come down a steep hill an noticed some strange behaviour from the rear of the van, when i looked in the mirror my nearside rear wheels were sticking out about 2 feet by the time i stopped the van was sitting on the last 2 inches of drive shaft, pullmans do such a great job. :o

(Picture in the gallery. Nomad)

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 08-11-07, 08:04PM
Welcome to VLH Scammster :) Glad you're ok and didn't have, what could have been, a serious accident.

The Mrs (Administrator)
Where all think alike, no one thinks very much. Walter Lippman
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: billybong on 09-11-07, 03:57AM
Hi scammster I do hope this incident has been reported to the Police and VOSA. >:D  ;)  :-[

Pleased nobody was hurt.:)

Pullmans need really looking into I have two suspected brake failure cases on Double Decked (DD) trailers that I have reported; still waiting for an answer though.>:(

Kindest regards Billybong.
          Death is the wish of some, the relief of many, and the end of all.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 09-11-07, 05:50AM
Hiya billybong
 i dont expect it was reported to either but do think something should be done about it as the van was supposedly serviced 5 weeks befor ;D
 as i said befor pullmans do such a great job      :o      :o



    EAT MY DUST!!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: batian on 12-11-07, 11:56PM
the same happened to a driver in my store.the wheel came off.found out afterwards the van had had the tyre changed the day before and the nuts had not been put back on properly.thankfully the driver was okay and no other vehicle involved.
another driver also left the store and braked at the first roundabout and lost all the chilled and frozen out the back as the door catches on the back gave way.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: iworktoohard on 13-11-07, 01:03AM
truth be told, the old style dot com vans where the fridge/freezer is accessible at the back of the van were notorious for poor doors and shutters. many of them i see from other stores have cage ties wrapped around them to ensure they dont open whilst driving they are that bad.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 13-11-07, 11:44AM
i had a handbrake give way on me and smashed into back of car couldn't do reverse hill start from beind parked car without it.   Same scenario  mechanics had been working in yard on all the vans during the night giving them the full once over it even had a sticker in windscreen saying it had been done.    nothing ever became of it.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 23-11-07, 06:12PM
"You shop, we Drip"

Tesco Van in deep water! (Wasn't me i swear!)
http://thisisbournemouth.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1847543.mostviewed.end_of_the_road.php
From the bournemouth echo. According to the article the driver is ok.


you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 08-12-07, 06:20PM
what a bad week had to take my daughter to hospital for a night on Wednesday then Thursday a trip to the dentist to have 2 teeth out an to finish off Was working lastnight traveling down a county lane as i went round a right hand bend a car was coming towards me i braked an slid not sure if the car bothered to brake at all but needless to say it resulted in a head on luckily no one was hurt just a couple of bruised fingers.
they say it comes in three's so fingers crossed  ;D
have sent in a pic ;)



    EAT MY DUST!!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 09-12-07, 01:48AM
glad you're ok, how bad was the damage to the van?

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 09-12-07, 02:57AM
The car is a right off  :o  as for the van i was able to drive it back to the store (doing the last of my drops on route  ;D ) at the very least it will need new front grill, bumper an head light, it was quite an impact so could possibly be twisted an also a right off. Have emailed in a picture so maybe when Nomad is back it might get posted in the gallery.



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Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 17-12-07, 12:58AM
I had to loan a van to another store today, a wiseman's truck (rigid) had collided with one of their vans in the back yard and took half the front end with him. Heard the van will need new bonnet, front wings, grille, bumper and headlight assembly, but they didn't have any photos of the damage when they came to collect our van.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: crosspoints finest on 24-12-07, 05:01AM
DOT COM IS ON BIG ACCIDENT IF YOU ASK ME.

Coventry Crosspoints Finest.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 01-02-08, 09:03PM
I see my pic made it to the gallery [:I] Wb Nomad hope ya had a good break :) The van has now been repaired an arrived back at store yesterday not had chance to drive it again yet see if they done a good job of it ;D

When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so at the end, you're the one who is smiling and everyone around you is crying.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 12-03-08, 04:40PM
Is it the one on p14 of the gallery called 'smashing'. Nice photo, you were lucky to get out with only bruised fingers. I've been assigned our transit as my van every time i'm on shift, but i keep stalling it and its a push-button automatic! Bloody frustrating when you're in the middle of the road turning right.

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 12-03-08, 06:00PM
quote:
Originally posted by I.AM_a driverI've been assigned our transit as my van every time i'm on shift, but i keep stalling it and its a push-button automatic!
In the end we refused to drive on our automatic transits as it got so bad at doing that - stalling and (even worse) lurching forward as it did so).  Got taken away and they could not find anything wrong, claimed to have fixed it after being taken away a second time.  The other automatics all did the same thing but that one was the worse.  Didn't really get a chance to see if it had really been fixed as we got new manual Mercs just after.  Those automatics are downright dangerous if not lethal and should be taken off the road.

"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: d0tc0mma on 26-03-08, 04:10AM
quote:
Originally posted by hatless

quote:
Originally posted by ali p

but there should still be restrictions as stated by health and safety as to what weight should belifted above chest height. Even with the steps there is still the possibility of overbalancing and falling backwards whilst trying to remove a wedged tray from sprained racking.  Trust me i've been there and got the back to last from it!



drivers from Edinburgh 1 used to hate delivering to me.  The drivers had to park 150yds away because of railings on the pavement.  And then they would have to climb 4 flights of stairs to a top floor tenement flat.  My usual delivery always included 3 cases of beer/lager/cider, a case of value beans and a case of value tinned tomatoes.  It's not a job that I would volunteer for if I had a bad back.



Don't ask others to deliver what you can't/won't do. We wouldn't deliver to you as we would have bad backs after doing one delivery!

Drive! Lazarus, Drive!
Welcome to NepoTesco!

Post edited by The Mrs. Please do not make personal attacks on others.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: south-west-trains on 26-03-08, 08:25PM
quote:
Originally posted by TONKA

I would like to apologise to the dot com driver, who was driving past a golf club near Wigan yesterday at about 14.45, I am sorry if my golf ball woke you up when it clattered of the side of your van after a very wayward tee shot

Tonka (Administrator)

Bring me a shrubery





Lmao nice! Would love to have seen that  ;D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 27-03-08, 07:40PM
I see there is a new photo in the gallery of a van, any idea what it hit/hit it?

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: scammster on 11-04-08, 12:01AM
QuoteOriginally posted by I.AM_a driver
Is it the one on p14 of the gallery called 'smashing'. Nice photo, you were lucky to get out with only bruised fingers. I've been assigned our transit as my van every time i'm on shift, but i keep stalling it and its a push-button automatic! Bloody frustrating when you're in the middle of the road turning right

you shop, I drop
I.AM_a driver


sorry not been able to get online for a while!!  yes this is the pic i sent in, half shafted from the same page is also 1 of the vans i had the pleasure of driving when the wheels came off  :(
still keep getting told were supposed to be getting new vans this year not sure when lol  ;D



When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so at the end, you're the one who is smiling and everyone around you is crying.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Evil fly on 22-05-08, 04:06AM
Found this on Youtube thought it was funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrvl0vu-Fj8

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: POA Billy on 08-07-08, 03:04AM
A similar thing happened to one of our drivers wives the other day, she was parked and inside a shop when a Dot com van reversed into her car, 2 people outside came in to tell her but the van had driven off, after some tracking down the van was identified and the reg given by the dot com manager.

They were also told that the driver had stopped got out and looked for damage but couldn't see any, well if his eyesight is that bad [Ken you know who you are] he should not be driving.

Now awaiting reply from Axa [Tesco insurance for Dot com] to see if it is repairable. >:(
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 02-10-08, 09:55PM
We had one in our yard yesterday - driver's foot slipped off brake onto gas pedal and hit pullman's van head on.
Dot com mngr was in store and was called out into yard to sort it all out.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Jaycloth on 03-10-08, 08:29AM
"Now awaiting reply from Axa [Tesco insurance for Dot com] to see if it is repairable."
Tesco insurance doesn't cover own drivers? Not a good advert for them.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 08-10-08, 09:24PM
my assumption is that it stops any fiddling with books. so if an external insurance company is dealing with claims, Tesco can then say that they are doing it properly and not wiping the dust under the carpet as so to speak.

I have been driving for Dot com since June, and i managed to get a van stuck in a field. I got it out after a few choice words and shunting. took just over 5 mins. i was impressed. Since then, one of our other drivers has got his stuck completely and had to get another one of our vans to pull him out. Van needed a wash after, including the footwell of the cab. Naturally, no micky taking was done that much at all *cough*

Our vans, all 54 reg autos, when parked, sit still for a second then roll in the direction of downhill. We had a temp van for a little while (07 reg) and when you take your foot off the break, you go foward. It was quiet amusing when a row of our vans were lined up along the front of the store waiting for our departure time, when the driver of the 07 jumped in, started his van, but never applied any break. he looked up after reading his manifest to see the words "You Shop, We Drop" getting closer. When the 07 left us, it has a lovely inprint of the back of one of our 54 reg's now ingraved into its bonnet! As my van was the one infront of the one that got hit, it was that point i just decided i wanted to deliver to my first customer early!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 09-10-08, 07:57AM
Not sure whether still the case or not, tesco vans only used to have third party insurance.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 09-10-08, 09:06PM
Wouldn't surprise me if it was TPFF and the "write-off's" are repaired and sent back out.

Nothing illegal, just downright dangerous.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 12-10-08, 06:52PM
I reversed into a load of dollys stacked up today. No damage done. not really that interesting but i thought you all may want to point and laugh. What did damage though was my finger while out doing deliveries. I shut it in the door and ripped the skin off my middle finger. After a few choice words infront of the customer and a person riding their push bike past, inspected the damage. nothing broken. its a bit better now! that was 5 hours ago i done that!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 12-10-08, 07:26PM
Know one or two drivers that have deliberately reversed into piles of dollies especially when they have been stacked in area shouldn't have been in.  You want to be carefull with your fingers a couple of drivers have had to have stitches in finger from carrying trays up peoplesentries and catching the "chip baskets" as i call them from the gas flues.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 12-10-08, 08:19PM
Quotedrivers have had to have stitches in finger from carrying trays up peoplesentries

That sounds painfull for both parties  :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 12-10-08, 08:28PM
Quote from: nomad on 12-10-08, 08:19PM
Quotedrivers have had to have stitches in finger from carrying trays up peoplesentries

That sounds painfull for both parties  :D

LMAO - Advice taken!  :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 16-10-08, 07:53AM
I hoped that might raise a smile :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Shana on 26-11-08, 08:50PM
A colleague of mine was driving a van on delivery when it was hit by a speeding motorist. No sign if even attempted to break just hit them. Ruined the front of the van, buckled all the tray holders and damaged the temperature control for the fridges. Three hour wait for a tow truck! Van was a write-off, both employees were okay.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 26-11-08, 09:44PM
Quote from: Shana on 26-11-08, 08:50PMVan was a write-off, both employees were okay.

Glad to hear they are OK but both?  A new driver undergoing training I guess?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Shana on 01-12-08, 08:17PM
Yeah, both multi-skillers on overtime, as dot com were shortstaffed. Apparently the driver parked the van facing the wrong way, hence the head-on collision.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 21-01-09, 01:24PM
You have Multiskiller drivers??? wow, unheard of in our neck of the woods! only one of our pickers is a driver as well, and he got trained as he does team leadering and gets vans from other places when needed at 6am ready for us drivers when we come in at 9.

Sometimes you do have to face the wrong way down the road. Put it this way, at least it was the van and not you.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: allyjohn on 21-01-09, 09:44PM
This is all too ture about facing sometimes you have no other option.  But Im sure the accident investigation pannel will come back with a "Preventable" verdict.


Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 21-01-09, 10:34PM
I would have to agree with that verdict if it was dark and they were not showing a red light in the direction of oncoming traffic.  Was it night-time or daylight?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 18-02-09, 03:06AM
Did you know that Tesco.com is a business champion for the "Driving for Better Business"' campaign?

Tesco.com, which operates 2,000 vans making up to 65,000 deliveries a day to customers nationwide. The fleet has jumped in size by 25% in the past two years, while the crash rate per vehicle has nearly halved. Fleet manager Dino Papas said: "As a result, we are talking about millions of pounds in savings. If the accident trend had continued, then we would have been spending £3.5 million more on van damage than we are today."


The 'Driving for Better Business' campaign is delivered by RoadSafe on behalf of the Department for Transport

http://www.easier.com/view/News/Motoring/article-234739.html (http://www.easier.com/view/News/Motoring/article-234739.html)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 25-02-09, 04:40PM
I bet the black box recorders have something to do with that too!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 25-02-09, 06:01PM
They put camera's on the back of the vans saying that it reduced accidents by a certain percent (I cant remember exactly) then wouldnt repair/replace them when they failed to work.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 31-03-09, 05:49PM
they don't put cameras on them anymore, but i still think they're really useful and they should be repaired.

i've a few more crashed van pics that should go in the gallery, will get them sent in when i get a minute.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Dot Comma on 02-04-09, 02:53AM
I look forward to seeing them. Hope no one was hurt in them.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 15-04-09, 08:10AM
Quote from: packhorse on 25-02-09, 06:01PM
They put camera's on the back of the vans saying that it reduced accidents by a certain percent (I cant remember exactly) then wouldnt repair/replace them when they failed to work.

I was led to belive tesco wont pay for repair because they never asked Mercedes for the cameras but they were installed anyway.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 08-05-09, 12:12AM
dot com driver loading a van, when it is driven off the bay, by a driver not looking correctly in his mirrors before pulling off.
Fridge door still open, knocking the loading driver over, and causing her to sustain injuries.
Logged in accident book, yet MM wouldn't send her home.
She had to go home herself, and take herself to the local Minor Injuries Unit, and then to A&E.
She is currently off sick, and not expected to be off sick for at least another 5 days.
I am told the reason she wasn't sent home was because they have to pay her for the shift, and 3 days after.
Sadly, this member of staff is not in the union, who no doubt would have fought the case here.
As far as I am aware, no first aider was called either. But I am not 100% certain on that one.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: PitseaSuspect on 08-05-09, 12:18AM
I find this disgusting .. and this member of staff will probably face a warning when she returns. As for going to the hospital on her own, in our store we have staff that are insured to take staff to the hospital if they were to have an accident. I cant believe she wasnt sent home .. i know what i would of done if i was her.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Jaycloth on 08-05-09, 08:24AM
I totally agree that this ladies treatment was poor. If she has recorded the accident in the book, she shouldn't be sanctioned (mitigating circumstances, accident not her fault) nor should it be part of her percentage. I know that managers will do anything to persuade staff to stay on after an accident, from personal experience. A first aider should have been called and should have advised that she go home or to hospital. She has a good case for compensation.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 08-05-09, 09:00AM
I can confirm it was logged in the store accident book.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Seanmclude on 03-06-09, 01:43PM
Has everyone elses .com stores stopped people from having buddies?

One of the drivers broke her finger while out on a run and is not allowed a buddy to help her.

Same with a few other .com drivers aswell if they are injured- they are expected to live with the pain!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 03-06-09, 02:50PM
Don't think so. Surely this falls into the category of supporting your attendance. Is there anything we can do to help you?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: POA Billy on 04-06-09, 02:50PM
I'm sorry but there are no prizes for the longest post, would a link not have done (?)) :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: jb66 on 04-06-09, 02:55PM
If i have a delivery that is too heavy for me or it is in a dodgy area, i ask a manager come out in his car to help me.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 23-10-09, 11:19PM
Explosion at Gloucestershire caravan park

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Explosion-Gloucestershire-caravan-park/article-1446798-detail/article.html (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Explosion-Gloucestershire-caravan-park/article-1446798-detail/article.html)

There's a photo, the dot com van is a mess. Thankfully no-one hurt.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 24-10-09, 01:23PM
Not Tesco I know. But thought I would share with you anyway.


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1178920_asda_van_stuck_after_satnav_wrong_turn (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1178920_asda_van_stuck_after_satnav_wrong_turn)

How the **** did the driver manager to get it that far up?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 24-10-09, 03:41PM
He obviously wasn't looking where he was going, just totally relied on his sat nav to get to his next address from the looks of it.
I wonder how their insurance would pay out for damage, not just to the van but to the path he tried to drive through. (?)) (-*-)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 24-10-09, 04:43PM
That's interesting. ASDA have their vans covered by RAC. Who covers Tesco dot com vans for call outs?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Jaycloth on 24-10-09, 05:28PM
Bet, whoever it is has "budget" in their name!  ;)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Geezer100 on 24-10-09, 10:45PM
Quote from: The Mrs on 24-10-09, 04:43PM
That's interesting. ASDA have their vans covered by RAC. Who covers Tesco dot com vans for call outs?

again it's the RAC. Sainsbury's use the AA (I only know cause I saw one being attend to by the AA on my way home from work once)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 26-10-09, 01:23PM
Quote from: Geezer100 on 24-10-09, 10:45PM
Quote from: The Mrs on 24-10-09, 04:43PM
That's interesting. ASDA have their vans covered by RAC. Who covers Tesco dot com vans for call outs?

again it's the RAC. Sainsbury's use the AA (I only know cause I saw one being attend to by the AA on my way home from work once)
except the transits, Ford Assistance uses the AA!I was on 1st name terms with one AA guy, our transit used to break down every other week. Don't have it any more, does anyone out there have EK06XUV, and have you managed to use it for more than two weeks without the auto g/box breaking?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 26-11-09, 09:39PM
things must have change we never used to have breakdown . we just had to rely on the lease company  via/pullmans coming out to us
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: dotmercom on 15-12-09, 05:35PM
Has everyone elses .com stores stopped people from having buddies?
yes we used to buddy up all the time when not that busy,but it stopped about 6 months ago.
trying to save money was the answer from my manager.now if you dont have a route you have to help the pickers trolley
loading .what a bore.one of our drivers pulled his groin on a damaged roller van door.he was in real agony, he was not allowed a buddy.despite the fact there were 2 spare drivers.so he put it in the accident book and had a week of work.the door is still damaged.do they really care????
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 15-12-09, 06:25PM
I think the policy is to only have one employee per van, if that person is unable to do the job then they should be found another job instore and a multiskilled (what are they again?) or other driver takes the van trip. Most of the vans only have one seat now anyway, so you'd be lucky to have a passenger seat.

I defected a (spare) van last week, both the AM and CH shutters were extremely difficult to open, had to use both hands and really force them up. By comparison our own vans only need one hand to open the shutters.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 15-12-09, 07:18PM
Not been allowed as common practise for over a year here.  The rule *has* been broken if the only accredited driver available for a shift is injured so they take someone else (not a driver) along to do their humping.

And all our vans are three-seater Merc Sprinters (one + two).
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 18-12-09, 09:28AM
It seems that every "spare" van we get given have cr***y shutters. They are an absolute swine, Pullmans sent us one the other day and the shutter was so stiff I refused to accept it (Oh boy did I get told off for that one), but the thing is no body would have driven it anyway.
And as for two drivers buddy(ing) up, we do it every now and then, but we only have one two seater van anyway. I've mentioned on here before, that we are pretty much left to our own devices once .com shuts at 2pm and the pickers go home, then the manager goes a while after that.  If the vans are all covered and there are no issues (i.e. non payment etc), then they dont seem to care, THANK GOODNESS...
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 15-01-10, 11:48AM
Not a Tesco van, but Asda. Hope he/she is ok.

Good thing Ocado have fitted winter tyres now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nzy-3FJPfQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nzy-3FJPfQ)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 15-01-10, 02:51PM
Ouch! I hope no one was seriously hurt in that accident  :o

I noticed during our last period of snowfall Occado were delivering around my area still.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: I.AM_a driver on 21-01-10, 05:57PM
some of us haven't stopped with the snow :D

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs121.snc3/16843_665231060071_61016412_40321248_2173824_s.jpg) (http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs121.snc3/16843_665231060071_61016412_40321248_2173824_n.jpg)

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs121.snc3/16843_665231065061_61016412_40321249_3746463_s.jpg) (http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs121.snc3/16843_665231065061_61016412_40321249_3746463_n.jpg)

(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs141.snc3/16843_665231080031_61016412_40321252_3921545_s.jpg) (http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs141.snc3/16843_665231080031_61016412_40321252_3921545_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 24-01-10, 12:05PM
A hypothetical question:  Should it be possible for the wheel to be knocked off a Mercedes Sprinter van if it hits a kerb?  Or does that suggest a design fault or poor maintenance?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Chairswan on 24-01-10, 03:01PM
That sounds to me like the wheel nuts havn't been tightened properly.
When a wheel hits a curb really hard, the wheel doesn't COME OFF, the suspension wishbone will break at such force meaning the wheel will become bent to a funny angle you can't drive it safely (I do know this as I once did this to my own car before  :o).
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ali p on 10-03-10, 09:31PM
I can remember once as a driver. A very concerned colleague ,driver, phoning to the store that his nuts had sheared off.  He had been victim of such incident. From what i remember some maintenance had taken place and the wheel not put back on properly!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Youssarian on 18-04-10, 10:57AM
Quote from: ali p on 10-03-10, 09:31PM
phoning to the store that his nuts had sheared off...

Painful!  :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: winxpert on 20-04-10, 09:22AM
As a Dot Comedy T/L (drivers) I get to see a WIDE variety of 'accidents' and it never ceases to amaze me how the drivers manage to get themselves into the situations - from wrapping the rear end around a tree to simple wall scrapes, and the excuses range from the sublime to the ridiculous!  We run a fleet of 7 battle scarred 54 sprinters held together with duct tape and cable ties (far more reliable than a Pullmans repair!).  Last ARB filed was where a driver drove into a property to deliver and somehow managed to bring half the boundary wall down on his way OUT (you got in ok so why the problem on the way out?)  8-)
My latest call was from a driver who said he had been clamped and it turned out that he had decided to pop to the bank during his run and straddled a double yellow and fell foul of a private clamper. Cost him £150 and a disciplinary!
Supposed to be getting a fleet of new Iveco's this month so it will be interesting to see how long they go without a scrape! :-X
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: snappers on 02-05-10, 08:03PM
Quote from: I.AM_a driver on 15-12-09, 06:25PM
I think the policy is to only have one employee per van, if that person is unable to do the job then they should be found another job instore and a multiskilled (what are they again?) or other driver takes the van trip. Most of the vans only have one seat now anyway, so you'd be lucky to have a passenger seat.

I defected a (spare) van last week, both the AM and CH shutters were extremely difficult to open, had to use both hands and really force them up. By comparison our own vans only need one hand to open the shutters.

Almost every time a spare van is used, the shutters are difficult to open, the compartments are filthy, plus many other defects. We have on several occasions refused to accept it, which in itself causes more problems.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 02-05-10, 11:18PM
Application of WD40 to the shutters should be part of the weekly van checks in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 20-05-10, 10:23PM
winxpert,
we hav just taken a delivery of 10 plates Iveco's. Had to telephone to ask why there are no reversing sensors. Accidents now waiting to happen as tesco in their wisdom have decided not to have them fitted (well thats what the told us anyway)..... have you got yours yet???????
Going from the old style sprinters to these are a good two feet longer with quite an overhang at the back, can see a few brick walls/fences coming down. Personally I think its a bit of a "bone shaker". I liked my old sprinter. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 21-05-10, 07:49AM
to be honest I never trust the reversing sensors.  Go off when they shouldn't and don't go off when they should.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 22-05-10, 08:55PM
quite right gomezz, but the back looks soooooooooo far away, I just cant judge how close I am to anything, at least they would be a BIT of a help.
I still want my sprinter back tho, been driving the same one for five years now and we became quite close   ;D   ;D  ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 23-05-10, 07:58AM
What is it with some drivers and their van?  As long as the bloody thing works, including the radio (and heater in winter) I don't care which van I have - just so long as it is not one of those god awful automatic Transits which were lethal in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Bigfoot on 23-05-10, 01:41PM
Another home shopping delivery company trialled cameras and sensors, but their reversing accidents increased following the installation. Now none of their vans have sensors, and you get a bonus for not damaging the vans...

If you don't know how long the van is, or what's behind you then get out and look!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 23-05-10, 09:46PM
Blimey, give me a chance, only had the ruddy thing just under a week, and of course I get out and have a look (stooooopid), but I didnt need to before I just knew where the back was without relying on the sensors. and  I suppose I will get used to this one too in time.
I tell you what gomezz, when you have the same van most days, you do tend to look after it, I kept it clean inside and out (time permitting), and was never ashamed to open any of the doors in front of customers because of the filth and stench.  There is nothing wrong with having a bit of pride in the vehicle you are using.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 23-05-10, 10:52PM
All our vans are kept clean, tidy and sweet-smelling.  Which is more than can be said of some of the spares we have been sent.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: adspackman on 24-05-10, 05:26PM
Do the vans still have the reversing cameras in them or have they been done away with as well?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 24-05-10, 10:34PM
Our 54 sprinters (which they are now replacing) had reversing camera's when we took delivery of them, but as the camera's broke down they did not replair/replace them. They were brilliant, clear as a bell and even quite good in the dark.
We all got this  letter, saying that Tesco believed having the camera's would in fact reduce damage to vans when reversing, it also said that they had installed air con. as they were concerned for our comfort during the hot weather!!!  (I can only assume that they don't actually give a s***e as none have it now)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: adspackman on 25-05-10, 05:55PM
Why am I not in the slightest bit surprised?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: readers35 on 01-07-10, 01:09PM
To succeed is nothing-it's an accident. But to feel no doubts about oneself is something very different: it is character.
Marie Leneru
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: redragon on 13-10-10, 07:29PM
Our vans are always in for repair we have had more loaner vans than our own sometimes.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: winxpert on 22-10-10, 04:46AM
Took delivery of our very first 10 reg in June and, to date, it has cost us over 4k in repairs! (a hole pierced in the rear panel into the chiller unit) We now have 2 60 reg vans as well and I am VERY particular who drives them but I have also noticed that a lot of drivers actually FEAR them! On a personal level, I quite like the new vans (apart from the clunk click gearbox and overheating clutch) against the 54 sprinters.  Our 10 reg was the first one that Pullmans had actually seen and as a result they were over it like a rash when I dropped a driver off to pick up a 'spare'.  The downside to deliveries with the new vans is that they will not go thru the width restrictors (something that the 'glorious' Paragon system does not recognise yet it knows ALL the UK speed limits), won't go down narrow driveways and are like a camel swaying when going down bumpy roads (we cover Biggin Hill and have quite a few of those up there!).  Only time will tell I guess and I wonder how long before they roll out the new 'green' vans that run on c**p nationally
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: MrTescoDriver on 29-10-10, 09:03PM
About the reversing issue, Never trust the sensors, dirt on the van even effects them! I have got into the habbit of putting my head out the window when I know I'm close to an object. The Mirrors on our 56 plate sprinters have been shortened over time due to the high numbers of drivers taking the original bigger mirrors off an cracking the hell forsaken indicators lenses on them. (Bet the designer who thought of it has been promoted by mercades, made them alot of money from tesco alone!) But these shorter mirrors make it more diffcult to judge the length of the van an also impare the rear vision, as I find I have to swerve ever so slightly as i drive down the road to see if there are any vehicles behind me, ie Police lol
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: QNQ on 25-01-11, 08:08PM
Hi sorry to post this here  , but for some reason I cannot start a new topic ,
 Are any other stores experiencing lots of unrouted deliveries ???  ,,

 If a moderator could move this topic , or another member could be kind enough to ask the question for me , I would be grateful ,

 Cheers ,


[admin]Try this, http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?page=3 (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?page=3)
and this, http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=10467.0 (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=10467.0).

Nomad[/admin]
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 25-02-11, 12:08AM
Four car crash closes M65 at Blackburn

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/blackburn/8875250.Four_car_crash_closes_M65_at_Blackburn/ (http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/blackburn/8875250.Four_car_crash_closes_M65_at_Blackburn/)

QuoteThe Tesco delivery van, Hyundai Coupe, Fiat Cinquecento and Volkswagen Bora collided near junction five, Blackburn, on the westbound carriageway at about 5.25pm.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 25-02-11, 11:01PM
Hope our colleague (and others) are not seriously injured.............
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fox on 13-03-11, 09:36PM
One of our drivers s**t himself!!!! Articulated lorry got his van on a roundabout. He was found ok.....afterwards.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 14-03-11, 08:57AM
I love it. "Articulated lorry got his van on a roundabout" and what does the Highway Code say about roundabouts and articulated lorries? The clue is 163. If this was followed then "got his van" wouldn't have happened. Just goes to show the ignorance of the highway code once the licence is in the hand and the ink is still wet... happy it ended well though! 
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 14-03-11, 09:33AM
Are the details of this particular incident hidden somewhere I cannot see them?  Or are you just assuming (possibly not too unreasonably) that it is the usual failure to apply the rules of geometry?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 14-03-11, 09:57AM
From Fox's post (limited details) there could be a few scenarios where it was entirely the artic drivers error.

But lets not consider those.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 14-03-11, 11:06AM
Sorry, did I misinterpret "Articulated lorry got his van on a roundabout"? Oh and who's rules of geometry are we questioning here? Please enlighten us all as to how many scenarios you wish to use which will justify the ignorance of HC 163. Smaller vehicles drivers couldn't spell geometry let alone understand how it works in this situation. I see it every working day...

Defend the indefensible if you wish, but please use common sense and the rules which apply in this written scenario.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 14-03-11, 11:38AM
You just put your own interpretation on it, and decided that your interpretation was the only viable one. As it also presented you with the opportunity to have a 'pop' at another person.

Your reply shows ignorance or at the least the inability to see beyond your primary supposition.

(1)Van on roundabout, lorry enters from left not obeying give way, forces van on to roundabout in effort to avoid collision.

(2)Large roundabout with multiple lanes, plenty of space for all parties, lorry decides to move from left lane to right lane with no concern for other users.

Both of the above could be classed as "Articulated lorry got his van on a roundabout

As an old trucker I've seen both of the above and felt let down by the poor standard of the offending truckers care/skill and consideration for others.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 14-03-11, 11:56AM
Quote from: bellyfull on 14-03-11, 11:06AMwho's rules of geometry are we questioning here?
Not questioning the rules.  They are universal and immutable.  At least they are in the Newtonian model of the world which most of us seem to get by with in our day to day lives.  There are other geometries which mathematicians and physicists like to play with, some of which have applicability in the post-Newtonian views of the universe but we 'umble folk need not concern ourselves with those.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 14-03-11, 06:46PM
Don't you mean HC 187? HC 163 makes no reference to long vehicles or roundabouts.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 15-03-11, 07:52AM
Thanks for actually looking it up Mrs. For information, both are correct. It will depend on which publication and by whom. Both "Findlay's" and "gov" have different sections (187 & 163) but give the same information as each other.
None the less we have all been hypothesising on what happened from Fox's somewhat short statement. The rule for large vehicles has always been understood thus.

When car drivers approach a roundabout, do not overtake large vehicles. Large vehicles (for example, trucks and buses) may have to swing wide on the approach or within the roundabout. Watch for their turn signals and give them plenty of room, especially since they may obscure other conflicting users.

To negotiate a roundabout, drivers of large vehicles may need to use the full width of the roadway, including mountable aprons it provided. They should be careful of all other users of the roundabouts and, prior to entering the roundabout, satisfy themselves that other users are aware of them and will yield to them. It's this satisfaction which is lacking.

Fox's statement was "the lorry driver got his van" which would suggest the van was ahead and the lorry driver deliberately went for him. I would venture to say that the van was to the rear of the lorry and to close and unaware of the peculiarities of large vehicle movements. What say you Fox?

Best description to give is in a resent accident whereby a lorry driver was on a large roundabout and would be turning left. In making their manoeuvre they ran over the small car unseen coming up on the nearside. There was no yielding by the car driver. Statement from the driver was, but he was mostly in the lane to the right of me. When asked why they didn't see the left side indicator the answers was, I thought it was a mistake... these situations are all too prevalent in rush hour scenarios. Too many small vehicle drivers in a hurry which is a potential disaster to all concerned.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 15-03-11, 09:46AM
Or in short neither you nor I know what actually happened, but I choose to think on it whereas you

Quotedecided that your interpretation was the only viable one. As it also presented you with the opportunity to have a 'pop' at another person.

Not sure who are you trying to educate with your section in red text, nothing new there for me.

Or is it a long winded way of avoiding saying you may have been to quick with your criticism of others. I think it is  ???
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 15-03-11, 11:07AM
Game, set and Match, Nomad...    :D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 15-03-11, 11:26AM
Love you to Nomad. Everything you accuse me of is within your post...I do agree we know not what happened...Having a pop was not my intension it is however your assumption. I would venture to say "yes" I may have been guilty of defending a lorry driver in what I believe was a misleading statement. There was no mention of a coming together of two vehicles or a minor bump on a roundabout or a major one for that matter but an exact statement that the "lorry got him" I note this is an assumption that went unchallenged by you.

I gave my assumptions, as you call them, based upon my extensive knowledge in this area. I will go further and state for the record that I will witness or be involved in these sorts of altercations, (for want of a better word) at least 50 times in a year. It will not be the first or last time a righteous driver will sound their horn and exercise their index finger believing they are right...You may understand the red text however; it is my judgement that many more don't and that is not an assumption but based on daily life out and about in the real world.

As one of VLH's aims is to educate...not long winded enough for those who no not...don't you think?

JCZY Duce..
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 15-03-11, 02:00PM
JCZY thanks, I thought so to.

As the victor I exit the debate, leaving my opponent to prevaricate & squirm  ;D

And apologise to other members for this short skirmish  :-*
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 15-03-11, 03:23PM
Quote from: bellyfull on 15-03-11, 11:26AMJCZY Duce..

You cannot go to deuce if the match is already won....
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 15-03-11, 05:43PM
Quote from: bellyfull on 15-03-11, 07:52AM
None the less we have all been hypothesising on what happened from Fox's somewhat short statement.
Excuse me!  I think not.   8-)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: packhorse on 16-03-11, 08:41AM
Quote from: bellyfull on 14-03-11, 11:06AM
Smaller vehicles drivers couldn't spell geometry let alone understand how it works in this situation. .

I take exception to that part bellyfull, its a bit harsh. Dont you ever drive a "smaller" vehicle
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fox on 16-03-11, 10:22PM
I always drive a smaller vehicle and, just in case, always try to give room , as much as possible, to any kind of trucks in front of me, specially in roundabouts. Worth to say this van I pointed, was totally damaged on the left front side, so... what would you think about it? Of course the articulated lorry got the van, but could be prevented? gosh.  :-X Don't know. But would bet yes.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 10:19AM
Thanks for the update there Fox. Damage to the "front" left side; this would indicate the lorry wasn't reversing on the roundabout then and that the lorry was ahead of the van.  Sorry nomad this puts your two theories on the back burner. It would however explain my experience is nearer the mark and the piece submitted in "red" was indeed valid and worthy of its inclusion as it's my experience that "smaller" vehicle drivers are totally unaware of this rule and fervently believe they have "right of way" on a roundabout regardless of other road users.

Yes you may have left the debate in the knowledge that I am indeed in a prevaricated and squeamish position at that time. It would appear that you are wrong in this instance.

Packhourse, I apologise if you were offended as a small vehicle driver for my "generalisation" geometry remark. I would much rather offend you than injure you...yes an unfortunate description but at least a reaction from it. Yes I am a smaller car driver also, and all in red is not lost on me.

JCZY......New balls please....
>:D
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 17-03-11, 10:44AM
Quote from: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 10:19AM
Thanks for the update there Fox. Damage to the "front" left side; this would indicate the lorry wasn't reversing on the roundabout then and that the lorry was ahead of the van.  Sorry nomad this puts your two theories on the back burner
How does that eliminate Nomad's number 1) scenario?   8-)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 11:49AM
Gomezz, the "scenario's given by nomad clearly show the lorry driver to be at fault. However this wasn't the case as given by Fox.

"Your reply shows ignorance or at the least the inability to see beyond your primary supposition" was the statement given Nomad.

On the accusation of supposition, I have been consistent in stating that "in my experience" the event described is prevalent to me and other lorry drivers as we witness these events on a weekly basis, so with that in mind, it is fair for me to comment using "primary suppositions" especially as the event describe by Fox is all too familiar to me albeit with little information but enough in my experience to add or reply to. To say the reply was done in ignorance is disrespectful to those with experience of such events and is given by those who do not.

We are all human and do get caught up in stupid moments...Its recognising those moments that are key. Yes I've had more moments then others, I do recognise them....eventually.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 17-03-11, 12:56PM
Quote from: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 11:49AM
Gomezz, the "scenario's given by nomad clearly show the lorry driver to be at fault. However this wasn't the case as given by Fox.
More supposition on your part.  In fact the way I read the original post was that it was being put down to the lorry driver.  But unless Fox cares to give us more detail then we are no further forward in knowing what actually happened.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 18-03-11, 12:04AM
Quote from: JCZY on 15-03-11, 03:23PM
Quote from: bellyfull on 15-03-11, 11:26AMJCZY Duce..

You cannot go to deuce if the match is already won....

Quote from: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 10:19AMJCZY......New balls please....
>:D

As previosly stated the match is already won. 

The only way forward is asking Nomad for a rematch.  We'll just have to wait for another topic to come up, where then you can make sweeping generalisations, pass judgement on a situation where the majority of the facts are unknown, and then get your butt kicked again.

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 09:24AM
Gomezz, it pains me to have to enlighten you to what supposition "actually" means as your use of the word since introduced by Nomad is embarrassing so here goes...

Supposition...something that it is suggested might be true, or that is accepted as true on the basis of some evidence but without proof...However, thank you for recognising my hypothesis which was given on that limited proof available and as previously stated, on more than one occasion, it was derived from one's own experience.

On the evidence given you have blamed the lorry driver despite knowing the contact was to his rear. Education is indeed hard at time...

Prevaricate & squirm appears to be all too common then...

JCZY, I deduce your a player and run with the pack and have no individual thoughts. Apologies if my supposition is wrong. I derive that supposition from your last statement whereby you wish others to debate and wish to add nothing of your own.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 18-03-11, 10:26AM
Au contraire, Bellyfull.  Its just that I have absolutley nothing new to add to what has already been said, it would be pointless of me to repeat what Nomad and Gomezz have already said.

So instead, I decided to show which side I was leaning towards by my comments.

however, as you think I have no thoughts,

These are my thoughts on the matter:

is that you are reading into a situation, where so few facts are given, and you have pronounced yourself an expert.

Is it not possible that it could be 6 of one, and half a dozen of the other?  Could it be possible that the lorry driver wasn't paying attention, and if he had been the situation could have been avoided?

Quote from: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 09:24AM
On the evidence given you have blamed the lorry driver despite knowing the contact was to his rear.

At what point has Fox stated this?

Quote from: bellyfull on 17-03-11, 10:19AM
Thanks for the update there Fox. Damage to the "front" left side; this would indicate the lorry wasn't reversing on the roundabout then and that the lorry was ahead of the van.  Sorry nomad this puts your two theories on the back burner

Could the dot.com be going round the roundabout, and the lorry driver did not giveway to the right????  That would also cause damage to the front left of the dot.com van.  I believe this was Nomads 1st scenario, and you have failed to rule that out.

Could it be possible that either the dot.com van or the lorry was going the wrongway round the roundabout?

Could it be that lorry driver was drunk?

Or maybe Aliens abducted the driver whilst he was driving, the lorry kept on moving with moment, hit the dot.com van, then the driver was delivered again?

Could it be possible that both were in the right, haveing a normal day, when a supervillian picked up the lorry, and lobbed it at the front left of the dot.com van?

Where am I going with this?  We don't know the facts, and you were the first to condem the dotcom driver.

Maybe you should train up and become a judge, or a magistrate, then you could sort out all those case which lack evidence.....   >:D

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

However I prefer to stick to my tennis comments, much more amusing (in my opinion), and they still state my position in this matter (again in my opinion).

Oh and I accept your apology about your deduction of me    :-*
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 11:04AM
Thanks for the reply JCZY...On your 6 V the dozen assumption. I don't make the laws but do abide by them.

Fact, any vehicle to the rear will be the guilty party in the eyes of the law as they are "supposed" to keep a safe braking distant from the vehicle in front and as the Highway Code clearly states for this type of scenario...

In all cases watch out for and give plenty of room to... HC 187 from gov...

•long vehicles (including those towing trailers). These might have to take a different course or straddle lanes either approaching or on the roundabout because of their length. Watch out for their signals...This appears to be lost on you but you appear not to be alone..

Yes the rest is nonsense and worthy of the prevaricate & squirm comment given by Nomad in an earlier post..

Thanks for being gracious in accepting my apology.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 18-03-11, 11:22AM
And still you do not reply to Nomads FIRST scenario!


Quote from: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 11:04AM

In all cases watch out for and give plenty of room to... HC 187 from gov...

•long vehicles (including those towing trailers). These might have to take a different course or straddle lanes either approaching or on the roundabout because of their length. Watch out for their signals...This appears to be lost on you but you appear not to be alone..


If in scenario 1, should the dotcom driver stop on the middle of a roundabout and give way to the lorry, despite it being his right of way, and the fact that itwould be dangerous to others behind him?

Your ignorance Bellyfull beggers belief.  Your opinion is the only opinion that counts.

Your opinion is that the dotcom driver is guilty.  End of discussion  Despite the lack of infomation given, and despite that scenario 1 is a viable scenario!!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 11:58AM
 JCZY...go back and read the posts from Fox. He/she has given enough information to allow a valid supposition. They however choose to term this as  "Articulated lorry got his van on a roundabout"  which is opinionated. I replied as I recognised this all too familiar event and which I witness on a weekly basis...I even explained it was my experience or if you don't understand that word then Experience as a general concept comprises knowledge of or skill in or observation of some thing or some event gained through involvement in or exposure to that thing. 

There is no rational reason why you should introduce fake scenarios as we have facts in this case. This does however show that you can't argue the facts thus far presented.

All other situations given here are the lorry drivers fault simply because you wish them to be and have not fact based situations...unless you include the alien one that is......

Understand, we were discussing the "fact based storey" of Fox not the wild, stupid non-factual scenarios as given here. Facts as given by Fox are... collision on a roundabout, one vehicle damaged to its front means they couldn't evade the collision which in law makes them wrong in both anticipation and safe distance...

JCZY you are now caught up in the emotion "Your opinion is that the dotcom driver is guilty.  End of discussion"  Despite the lack of infomation given, and despite that scenario 1 is a viable scenario!!!"

As my opinion on the facts as given by Fox have been dismissed by you, why have the viable scenario (Fiction) given by Nomad is more important to you? Mmm strange!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 18-03-11, 02:29PM
Quote from: bellyfull on 18-03-11, 09:24AMSupposition...something that it is suggested might be true, or that is accepted as true on the basis of some evidence but without proof
Yep.  That is exactly the right word in this case.

QuoteOn the evidence given you have blamed the lorry driver despite knowing the contact was to his rear.
Au contraire.  I have blamed nobody.  I have gone out of me way to avoid blaming anyone as, like you, I do not know the full facts.  I must have missed the bit about contact being to the rear of the lorry.  Care to point that out to me?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: The Mrs on 19-03-11, 01:32AM
[admin]Three days of posts on a subject that no-one actually has the facts of.

Posts are now becoming personal and attacking in nature.

It appears the facts will not be forthcoming, therefore please stop going round in circles and call this discussion to a halt.

If you choose to continue your posts will be deleted.

Thank you, now move on.[/admin]
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JCZY on 22-03-11, 02:11PM
Bellyfull, I must apologise for my outburst earlier, I had a very bad day, which is no excuse.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 23-02-13, 04:47PM
Do any of you guys use those cctv cams to record the drive?

  I wonder if they would be just a pain in the arse to use, or worth it with regards to proving liability in a crash.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VEHICLE-DASHBOARD-DVR-CCTV-/251233409732?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a7ead9ac4 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VEHICLE-DASHBOARD-DVR-CCTV-/251233409732?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item3a7ead9ac4)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 23-02-13, 08:30PM
I know my boss has talked about using them, with full knowledge of the driver concerned, when said driver has had a sequence of 'incidents' as part of the ongoing assessment.

If it helps sort out such issues then good idea.  However, as most van driving incidents that I'm aware of concern the sides and rear of the vehicle they would have limited benefit just looking forward.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 02-03-13, 08:34PM
I got a question.   I was given an impossible route and simply could not get the last 2 orders done before my rostered hours. 

I brought them back and with no one to do them on night shift. The customer will not get their shopping .

What would Tesco's stance be if I worked on passed my hours to keep the customer happy, but had a crash? 

Would they nail us saying we should not have been in the van at the time or would they get behind the driver 100%.   

I came back with orders and feel a little upset over it.   
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: just curious on 02-03-13, 11:26PM
If you were really lucky you might get a values award and a pat on the back plus any extra time worked paid back as lieu time , if your really unlucky and have an accident they will not want to know you and just label you as being at fault - because you should not have been in that place at that time . The buck will always be passed and liability's not accepted by the mighty company .  :-X :-X .

You can bet your bottom dollar they would not treat it like a moments matter thing or the customer comes first , or giving it 100 per cent in your job role only to be told at your review your not a team player . >:( >:( .
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 03-03-13, 09:21AM
Deliver the customer's shopping while driving safely and sensibly (I mean don't rush around like a blue a**** fly) and if you get back late take your time and make sure you get all the overtime you are due.  If you are involved in an accident you will be insured and protected because the company sent you to do that job at that time in that van for which you are authorised.

If getting back late compromises the evening driver's timing, so be it!  If you bring shopping back that you haven't delivered then this also compromises the evening drivers and the driver who could take it out may already have left. 

I hate myself for saying this but - Every Little Helps.

It all comes down to customer focus and working as One Team .
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 03-03-13, 10:41AM
Vortex I would tend to agree with you.  But say you broke your legs and needed to claim after you drove the van into a ditch.   

From what I remember from my bronze.   Even issue of not  snake loading properly could be held against you in an accident .   

In future if I am running late,  and decided to work on, it would have to be a management decision .   

I would call the duty manager and make sure I got the nod from them before going the extra mile (excuse the pun).
The same goes for clocking out early from lunch.

  That way we are not liable.     

After some thought I have come to the conclusion that everything we do out there must follow company procedure to the letter .  To protect ourselfs as drivers .    If there are issues  such as routing and times between customer, they have to be addressed.
By  bringing baskets back we should ensure that these issues will be addressed.
Its all about the customer which is 100% true and I am very happy to say it.  I get on great with my regulars, and their complaints about the system are taken seriously .



Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 03-03-13, 04:46PM
Oh I completely agree.  The company will try everything that they can to avoid exposure if they can (I have personal experience of this within the past year!)

I also take your point about not delivering if your route can not be completed to force the system to self correct.  From my experience of calling in to Duty Mgrs it will take as long for you to make the deliveries as it would for them to make a decision (and I will promise that the decision will always be to make the deliveries).

You get back late and the evening driver has to go out late.

Incidentally, do you (or any other drivers out there) complete the End of Trip Driver's Debrief form (available from the Reach program)?  This includes a small space where you can make comments about your route as well as showing you are back late and/or you have not made all of your deliveries?  It ought to be completed by discussion with your TL or Mgr when you get back and offers a chance to give feedback on a regular basis when the facts are fresh in your mind.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 04-03-13, 02:35AM
What TL or mgr?  They have always finished by the time you get back except maybe at lunchtime.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 04-03-13, 08:03AM
Yup!  That's why I said - ought!  At our place we complete this form ourselves so there is a record for mgr to read next day (assumuing that it's filled in properly!)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Barbfan26 on 11-03-13, 11:17AM
Hi hope i've not missed an answer in previous posts, But as a driver what is Tesco Policy on CDA accidents, I lost my footing on some steps leading from customers door and fell injurying myself, ( after two visits to the GP and a visit to A&E I find i have cracked ribs) the delivery was down a dark lane with no lighting. At the time i phoned duty to ask to be relieved this being 19.05pm as i knew i couldnt carry on, i waited nearly an hour without reply so phoned duty again but was told they were still trying to get hold of our TL who had taken a van out himself and advised to call customer services to get them to notify my customers of a delay, I was approx 20 miles away from the store, I felt obliged to try and carry on in a great deal of pain as sitting waiting for a decision could have taken who knows how long. Perhaps in hindsight I should of just gone back to the store. The accident was reported to the accident helpline on my return to store. So if someone can clarify the policy it may help other drivers in the future. by the way i'm now off sick which will lead to an ARI.
Thanks
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: hesketh on 11-03-13, 12:18PM
It is appalling, but not surprising, that you were treated so poorly at the time of the accident. You should have been more forceful when you first phoned the duty, if you are injured then you are not asking to be relieved you are telling them. If the T/L has taken out a van themself then they are no longer in a viable supervisory position and someone should be covering that role. It also should not then fall to you to make further phone calls, surely the duty should do that for you. I would like to think that Tesco will show it's gratitude for you completing your round by paying you whilst you are off but don't hold your breath on that. 8-)

Tesco's insurers will expect you to defend your decision to make the delivery in the prevailing condition, which shouldn't be hard, but ultimately your claim for damages would be against the property owner if the steps were unsafe. I would expect that Tesco would pursue the matter on your behalf but don't hold your breath on that one either 8-)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Duracell on 11-03-13, 12:27PM
So given Barbfan26's observation that the path and delivery area was in an unlit area..what grounds would there have been to refuse delivery?, at the very least would it be reasonable for this accident to have any bearing on deliveries in the future that present concern?

I don't particularly mean issuing dot.com drivers with head torches either, although they may prove useful.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 11-03-13, 08:22PM
Easy to be wise after the event but one should only make a delivery if it is safe to do so.

If you can't get to the delivery point then contact the customer, explain your reason and arrange a compromise where the shopping can be handed over.  I have made deliveries in car parks or at road junctions because I did not believe that the delivery could be made safely (usually snowy conditions).  Most reasonable customers will understand.  If the customer refuses to come to you then phone your store (DC or Duty manager) and explain reasons for not completing delivery.  It is important to get your retaliation in first in this case.

If the delivery is unsafe because of inadequate lighting (as in your case) then the shopping should be rescheduled to be delivered in daylight.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Barbfan26 on 12-03-13, 08:24AM
 Thanks for the comments but I must point out I have delivered to this customer before with no problem, I think I must have just misjudged the one step upto the front door, I had taken one tray to the door, rang the bell and on turning round to go back for another tray I fell, the customer opened the door to find me picking myself up very shaken, she called her husband to help but I didn't make a fuss and it was only when I got back in the van I realised how much pain I was in and couldn't carry on. I had six drops still to do, phoned a colleague who took one off me and struggled to do four more drove back to store where my TL who was now back took the last delivery as it was local and also 20 odd trays up a steep ramp which just could not do. I then went to find the duty manager to report my accident . Since then I have had no contact from anybody, it hurts to think I put the company first and then nobody seems bothered that I got hurt.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: the-vortex on 12-03-13, 08:40AM
Presumably you are off on a 'fit note' so there is/has been some kind of contact.

If you had an accident and want to make a claim speak to the union and put in a claim.  And don't repeat your comment about misjudging the step because that may be used to reduce or avoid your claim. ;)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 20-05-14, 09:40AM
http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/tesco-customer-details-left-lying-in-the-road-in-northampton-1-6062347 (http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/tesco-customer-details-left-lying-in-the-road-in-northampton-1-6062347)

QuoteWarehouse worker Tara Badger and her fiance, Karl Taylor, were driving home from a meal at 8pm last Tuesday, when they spotted a green box by the A45 roundabout in Crow Lane. It was a container holding a bundle of shopping and a hand-held terminal belonging to Tesco.

Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: happyreturns on 20-05-14, 10:02AM
If the unsecured van was the fault of the driver, he/she  should not still be working at Tesco, because if that is the case its not a commany fault its a driver error which is, if you ask me, a summary dismissal offence.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 20-05-14, 02:00PM
So if it was driver negligence you believe (s)he should be dismissed, fair enough your entitled to your opinion.

However if it was a faulty lock/catch and MM knew about it but driver was not aware for what ever reason, strange van etc, should MM suffer summary dismissal ?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: happyreturns on 20-05-14, 02:13PM
If it was found out that it was a faulty lock and that it was someone's job to check that lock and either failed to spot it or did not bother then whoever that was should be dismissed, the reason being it could haver caused a serious accident,it has put Tesco customers info at risk and bought the company name into disrepute.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 20-05-14, 04:57PM
Not exactly what I asked, I'll try again.

Faulty = intermittent failure of mechanism, OK when checked by driver but known to MM that it had the intermittent fault, but still allowed vehicle to be used.

Should MM suffer summary dismissal.   
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: mexicopete on 20-05-14, 05:06PM
Nomad I've driven for Dot.com during my time and sometimes the first you know that there is problem with the locks on the chiller/freezer  doors on the van is when a member of the public flashes you to let you know you have lost the green trays whilst going round a corner.These faults are repeatedly reported and not fixed as the vans are needed for deliveries.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: happyreturns on 20-05-14, 05:11PM
I thought I had answered, however, anyone who is responsible for a van being on the road with  faulty doors as you describe,where the incident described took place, should be dismissed, manager or assistant..
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: happyreturns on 20-05-14, 05:23PM
What is also disturbing about the incident is,

"When the couple returned home they called Tesco customer services and were told to take it to their nearest store"

what idiot said that, they also need to be disciplined, someone should have gone round to collect it straight away  thanking the people who found it.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: lifeguard on 20-05-14, 05:38PM
Happy returns going back a couple of years to mercs I was driving for tesco the freezer door would often come open on a corner. All the drivers lost their frozen at least once. This fault was on all the vans but i do not remember hearing of which ever Muppet from head office ordered those vans being dismissed. It is very easy to forget to secure the shutters
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: happyreturns on 20-05-14, 06:01PM
Quote from: lifeguard on 20-05-14, 05:38PM
It is very easy to forget to secure the shutters

Now that is plain carelessness, it has to be easier to remember that as part of your job you have to secure the shutters, there can be no excuse in my book.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 20-05-14, 07:05PM
The mercs have a complete history of bad door latches and I have sent one to the mechanic after I shed a load on a roundabout.

Instead of kicking and screaming, blaming the driver,  lets have a RELIABLE mechanism that alerts the driver  that there is a door open before he drives off, as the driver is only a human after all. 

As regards names and addresses with phone numbers    .   All I need is a phone book and i have thousands of them.   


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Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 20-05-14, 07:58PM
The latest Iveco van freezer/chiller door locks occasionally have a habit of not securing properly or even worse look as if they are are secure but the bolt works loose through the normal vibration of driving.  It looks secure, it feels secure but it *can* come loose.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 20-05-14, 08:59PM
So it seems like being a high probability that it was not the drivers fault, even though some were quick to summarise as to that being the most likely outcome.

Strange how some are always quick to see the possible failings on one side but not the other, almost has to be dragged out of them  8-)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: AlexW on 21-05-14, 01:23AM
I must be the odd one out then as, in the near 10 years I've been driving, I've never once had a door come open on me nor have I ever lost so much as a single tray from the back.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: stewi1405 on 21-05-14, 01:28AM
Mercs were terrible for the door locks even the shutter locks wre terrible and broke a lot.  the new bodies have much better locks on them and better system of lockimg as well. But as some have already said you can check and check but it can still fail. Always give the doors amd good banging shut and then another thump before you fet back in.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: horatiocain on 21-05-14, 06:58AM
On the new ivecoo vans the ambient can be a problem, especially for their first few months and after cleaning, if you hit pot hole or speed hump the bar for the shutter shifts and can come open, then it slowly rises with every bump, including the evil gear changes of the awfully gearbox, and then you turn right and see stuff flying out.
This isn't just our vans but the new ASDA ones too, it's a known fault and yet was not fixed for the new vans, the manual locking handle is actually worse on the new vans because just like the shutter bumps can trip the spring and unlock the handle.

All of these points were pointed out to tesco but they went ahead anyway
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: pendulum on 23-05-14, 11:40AM
There's a buzzer warning circuit for "mains powering fridge/freezer" and "footstep down". You wouldn't think it would be a big deal to add 3 switches to the doors and wire them in to the pre-existing system.

Some of our drivers have hit cars with their swinging doors. I nearly did once. I agree they look shut when they're not and the roller can definitely work its way up sometimes.

As for that moron finding a reach and saying a burglar could have used it... she has made my 2014 shortlist for biggest idiot, currently #1.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 23-05-14, 07:31PM
Quote from: pendulum on 23-05-14, 11:40AMAs for that moron finding a reach and saying a burglar could have used it... she has made my 2014 shortlist for biggest idiot, currently #1.
In theory they could mark all the items for all the customers as rejected then gone into the store the van came from to return the trip to generate a load of costly refunds.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: nuttyjim on 28-08-14, 12:05PM
They would have to have some understanding of the system to know how to do that though surely ?

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Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Hawkridge on 06-07-15, 10:15AM
Someone who doesn't work with Tesco anymore done an absolute blinder. in an IVECO driving back to store, managed to run it into a ditch. Apparently "Blacked out". I only put that in bunny ears because he was a bit of a dodgy character shall we say.. Anyway, front end was totally smashed. all the way up to the front wheels.
7k's worth of damage done (What i heard from a TL Anyways). Should of been a write-off anyways as the airbags didn't even deploy let alone the cost of damage. But no, they decided to repair it and ever since then it's proberbly spend more time in the workshop after it was deemed road-worthy and had more spent on it then its worth. Would of probably been cheaper and easier to get a brand new van...
Anyways, after his blacked-out reason Tesco wouldn't let him drive for a while and 2 months later he left and now drives for ASDA!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 15-08-15, 07:41AM
This guy was caught on camera mid accident.   

Looks like a nasty one.   ;D

https://www.facebook.com/IftheCrossroadsWideLetHerSlide/posts/925687654140172 (https://www.facebook.com/IftheCrossroadsWideLetHerSlide/posts/925687654140172)
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: tut tut on 15-08-15, 08:44AM
Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with many of the things that are going on by management within our structure. But this is clearly one of us ( or someone pretending to be ) by this being shown to the whole world what chance do we have to recover ??
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 05-09-15, 09:14AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disgusting-tesco-delivery-van-filmed-6380161 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disgusting-tesco-delivery-van-filmed-6380161)

QuoteA driving instructor has captured the moment a Tesco delivery driver narrowly avoided crashing into one of her pupils after overtaking and then sharply turning left

:o  :o
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: therustingretailgiant on 06-03-16, 11:45AM
I've seen a driver return to store with roof tiles splashed all over the roof and part of a tree. He still denied hitting anything.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 06-03-16, 12:35PM
We have had a few as well. 

To be fair.  They are fairly big vans for novice drivers .  The tail swing is over 1.5 meters.   

They are tricky to maneuver into tight spots even with experience. And they are higher than 90% of bungalow soffit and gutters systems.

Dont be to harsh on him.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: sep1985 on 09-03-16, 09:03PM
We had a strange one last week, an agency driver took out one of our vans with a full load (900 kg).  He came back 4 hours later without a mark on it. Now that's a bloody miracle !
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Ron on 27-05-16, 10:21PM
Years ago after interviews for new driver in my store they decided to give the job to a woman with no experience of van driving instead of a man who had an hgv license and years of multi drop ffs, probably due to having to employ woman or some such legislation to increase fairness for women in the workplace or due to the fact she could probably talk more  :P. This is all good and fine except on her first night out she flew of the motorway on a bend and toppled the van, writing it off and blocking four lanes for a few hours and never came back. I heard she survived the experience but thought it was not for her anymore.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it incredible that a car driver is put in a van with a big ass and expected to take an assessment with NO instruction or help whatsoever. A couple of hours professional tuition could save many potential accidents.

I find it irresponsible that the cooler and freezer doors do not have a simple "door open" alarm on them.

I find it dangerous that the vans do not have a reverse camera and dashcam as standard.

I find it cavalier and downright irresponsible sending vans out that are "defected" because nobody can get through to management about safety (till it's too late)

I find it totally unreasonable that there is no health and safety procedure in case of an accident on site, or on the road where the driver is incapacitated. If there is a problem, no-one ever answers the phone!!!

YOU are responsible for the vehicle you drive, if it's not 100%, you're the one who loses their license and/or gets fined. It's not worth it. If in doubt, get your manager to drive it! (about as rare as seeing a manager at a grocery rumble!).

However, poor maintenance, unsafe practice and management aside, this is the best job (especially at this time of year).

End of rant - apologies if these issues are elsewhere.

Working at Tesco's is like being a Mushroom - kept in the dark and fed on sh**
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: wheelspin on 10-06-16, 12:35PM
Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it incredible that a car driver is put in a van with a big ass and expected to take an assessment with NO instruction or help whatsoever. A couple of hours professional tuition could save many potential accidents.

You should be recruited on the bases that you have experience driving big vans . Which is the case for a lot of stores, in fact some of our drivers have C grade and above licence grade.

Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it irresponsible that the cooler and freezer doors do not have a simple "door open" alarm on them.

This was tried and it did not work.   A broken or faulty buzzer is a pain.  One should train themselves to check before setting out. A quick glance in the mirror will highlight an open door.

Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it dangerous that the vans do not have a reverse camera and dashcam as standard.

The Union would kick up a storm about spying on drivers..  At least Mandate my union would.    I agree a camera would be handy though.  It would need to be a factory fitted cam though. 
Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it cavalier and downright irresponsible sending vans out that are "defected" because nobody can get through to management about safety (till it's too late) 

You as a driver should not take out a van that is defected.  You as a driver have a right to ground a van.  Once you do this, the van must remain in the yard. Tesco do not want you taking out a broken van.  Its up to you to stand up to middle management over it.  You will get hung out to dry if you have an accident due to a defect you did not report.  Not the duty manager who tried to tell you to go out anyway.   Im not talking about a side marker bulb..  But I would not take out a van with a defective headlight, indicator or tail light, Let alone any problem with engine or brakes.  Do you have silver trained drivers or managers?   
   
Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
I find it totally unreasonable that there is no health and safety procedure in case of an accident on site, or on the road where the driver is incapacitated. If there is a problem, no-one ever answers the phone!!!

Call the emergency services.   In this situation, who cares about stock in the van or waiting customers.  There is really nothing immediate a manager can do to help you .   If you are not hurt, follow the instructions in the back of your log book which you should have also been taught in your bronze training.

Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
YOU are responsible for the vehicle you drive, if it's not 100%, you're the one who loses their license and/or gets fined. It's not worth it. If in doubt, get your manager to drive it! (about as rare as seeing a manager at a grocery rumble!).

However, poor maintenance, unsafe practice and management aside, this is the best job (especially at this time of year).

End of rant - apologies if these issues are elsewhere.

As you agree basically with most of my response , I would urge you to stand up to your managers and make a very big deal about the problems in your store.  Call the confidential number,  email the head of dotcom , jump up and down in anger to your union.    You should notice that your drivers are usually more outspoken than other staff in your store, I think the job makes us like that.  We are on our own out there and have to stand up to hostile or violent customers on our own.   One develops a thick skin and has a lower limit of BS.    Get your guys together so ye are all singing from the same hymn sheet.   

We have our manager tortured with union meetings and bring backs.  A good manager's response to this will be to make sure everything is perfect for drivers in future.  To cover their own backs.

Quote from: DotComBoy on 05-06-16, 12:45AM
Working at Tesco's is like being a Mushroom - kept in the dark and fed on sh**

RIght on the money there!!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: ZyDer on 04-05-17, 09:18PM
I recently had an extremely minor accident in a van - I reversed into someone's garage and move a couple of tiles - no damage to the van.

Do I have to declare this to my car insurance?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 29-06-18, 10:37AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flying-crates-tesco-delivery-van-12807513 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flying-crates-tesco-delivery-van-12807513)

I considered whether it was fair to the driver to place this (with video) on here, but then realised VLH is unlikely to increased the video audience much considering it is in/on The Daily Mirror.

May just be a timely reminder to other drivers, we are however all capable of a moment of distraction or slip.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 18-07-18, 10:03AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5962733/Tesco-offers-devastated-family-250-smirking-delivery-driver-runs-18-year-old-cat.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5962733/Tesco-offers-devastated-family-250-smirking-delivery-driver-runs-18-year-old-cat.html)

QuoteTesco offers devastated family £250 after 'smirking' delivery driver runs over sleeping 18-year-old cat Bonnie then said he thought it was 'roadkill'

For my own curiosity, is it still the case that 'legally' you are required to notify police if you collide/injure a dog, but not if a cat ?  I'm fairly sure it was to do with dogs being licensed where cats were not.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: JL on 18-07-18, 10:06AM
If you hit a dog you are meant to report it I hit a horse once that escaped a field.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fatboy on 18-07-18, 11:41AM
I think your correct nomads. As far as I'm told you don't have to report hitting a cat.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: helpme on 18-07-18, 03:55PM
You're right Nomad, you own a dog but keep a cat. The other side of the coin is that if your dog goes next door and destroys their garden you have to pay for it however there is no comeback if your cat does it.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: mexicopete on 18-07-18, 09:14PM
Quote from: Nomad on 29-06-18, 10:37AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flying-crates-tesco-delivery-van-12807513 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flying-crates-tesco-delivery-van-12807513)

I considered whether it was fair to the driver to place this (with video) on here, but then realised VLH is unlikely to increased the video audience much considering it is in/on The Daily Mirror.

May just be a timely reminder to other drivers, we are however all capable of a moment of distraction or slip.
It's a good job there was no wine in those blue trays... they are from the wine club and normally come in a box of six bottles per tray.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: daveyp on 03-11-18, 08:25PM
no its from a dark store they use a different tray than normal from videos and photos
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Stevil on 04-11-18, 02:41PM
Seems to be from the Enfield hub, as for a different tray it's the same as we currently use in our store, all blue for us.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 04-11-18, 06:40PM
Following Dirty Traygate all our old green trays were swapped out for new blue trays.  But recently had a load of shrink-wrapped old green trays returned to our store, presumably having been deep-cleaned.  Have they hell! They are filthy!
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: 1 on 04-11-18, 07:39PM
Could be worse you could have delivery cages to work that someone has clearly been sick all over.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Jimmer on 07-04-19, 12:18AM
Does anyone know who can view the dash cam footage?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fatboy on 07-04-19, 08:01AM
Anyone from the dotcom manager and above can request to see footage at any time.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 04-06-19, 10:23AM
A three year old boy has died following a collision with a Tesco delivery van while skateboarding. (http://www.edenbridge-chronicle.co.uk/article.cfm?id=131043&headline=Boy,%203,%20dies%20following%20Tesco%20delivery%20van%20collision%20while%20skateboarding%20in%20Hurst%20Green&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2019)

The worst of all tragedies, my heart goes out to all connected with this.  :'(
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: StoreManager on 04-06-19, 11:25AM
 :( A 3 year old on a skateboard.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Nomad on 15-02-20, 10:02AM
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/14/cyclist-knocked-off-bike-tesco-van-turned-cycle-lane-12238059/ (https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/14/cyclist-knocked-off-bike-tesco-van-turned-cycle-lane-12238059/)

"Video has emerged of the moment a cyclist was slammed to the ground by a Tesco delivery driver who turned left across a painted cycle lane. The dramatic footage, shot on a helmet cam, shows the delivery van pulling up alongside the cyclist using a blue cycleway in Vauxhall, London. He indicated and immediately turns into a side road and the path of the cyclist, knocking him from his bike in a painful collision."
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: gomezz on 15-02-20, 09:53PM
It is not clear if it *was* a Tesco driver as he was not wearing uniform.  Could have been a mechanic  return the van after a service perhaps?
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: fatboy on 16-02-20, 06:42AM
Spot on Gomez. The article says the person wouldn't confirm who was driving. Had it been a Tesco driver in the van it would have been obvious from the allocation sheet.
Title: Re: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: AlexW on 17-02-20, 01:45PM
It was a Tesco driver, you can see what appears to be Tesco issue cargo trousers as well as the Tesco merchandising gloves.

Tesco identified the driver via the allocation sheet/log book and passed the relevant information onto the police. However, all that proves is he was the one to sign out the van and leave the yard with it, not that he was the one driving at the time of the accident. No video exists showing him in the drivers seat, only him getting out of the passenger side. As far as I'm aware, none of the riders saw him driving, or could identify him beyond reasonable doubt as the driver. The police weren't called to the scene at the time (as far as I'm aware) so were unable to establish who the driver was themselves at the time. As such, they need to rely on witnesses and evidence to prove who it was. They identified him from Tesco, but required him to admit to be the driver due to a lack of solid evidence. As he refused to do so, he was required to identify who the driver actually was at the time, which he refused to do. So he was charged with failing to identify the driver, and given six points, a £300 fine and £332 in costs, which is probably more than he would've got had he admitted it to be honest.

To those that think that's wrong, and the allocation sheet is proof enough, try this. Driver does his van checks, signs out in the book, leaves the yard. Gets to his first drop, doesn't feel well, doesn't want to lose money due to sickness, calls mate up and asks to meet so his mate can drive while he sits in the passenger seat. Completely against company policy, enough for gross misconduct and instant dismissal. Probably complete nonsense, but enough to create doubt as to whether or not he was the driver at the time.

Title: Dot Com Accidents
Post by: Cleanuponaisle5 on 24-05-21, 09:55AM
Hi people I'm new to the forum I have a question or a topic I really need to post but I can't seem to figure out the process of doing so no buttons showing followed the instructions not visible, my question is has any one else's managers told them if they worked Easter Bank Holiday Monday or Friday that they have been double paid and Tesco are going to take it back from this months pay ? If so could any one reply as starting to think this is a dep problem not across the whole of Tesco like managers are being scripted to say.

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