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WMTY 2023

Started by General Thorn, 24-01-23, 01:00PM

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General Thorn

Just wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?


Sherwoodforest

Nobody even mentioned it on nightshift in my store,cant even remember seeing a poster up,only seen it on our tesco,why would i recomend it as a great place to shop?when some nights only had 2 grocery staff on in an extra

Duff McKagan

Our old store manager used to sit us down in groups and give us all that spiel but the last 3 store managers haven't bothered, we just get told to go fill in this years questionnaire (whatever they have decided to call it this year).

As for discount being added to wages, I've always taken issue with that...they know full well that the vast majority, if not all of us never use the full amount of discount or anywhere near so including it would be incorrect. They can set the discount as high as they like and boast all they like but the reality is I'll never spend enough in Tesco to use it all. What's the discount now? £1500? Who's spending £15k? Most of us don't earn £15k

General Thorn

#3
That's very true, you also have to spend some of YOUR wage before you get a discount so doesn't add up at all. The pay rises were to keep us legal and as for covid, Tesco was one of the few places allowed to open and so made many billions of pounds profit whilst others couldn't trade.

We don't have any posters up either but colleagues are being escorted up to have their brainwashing done before filling it in. They really think we are imbeciles with extremely short memories! No respect there then.

londoner83

Just complete the survey at home in the comfort of your own home away from any influences.

Having said that I'd have no issue putting my employee number on the survey. Always believe you should never give feedback you wouldn't give face to face.

2ndtimeround

Whatever you put down on there will be blamed on your individual line manager either way. Tesco simply tell them it's all down to them as they are the face of the company and nothing to do with the real ones making the decisions. 🤷🏻�♂️

lackofinterest

yes that is why i don't fill it in when i have a manager i like.

lackofinterest

i was told by someone who filled it in that the store manager was there telling them what to put  >:(

world of their own

Hi all.

Just remember that the "viewpoint" is voluntary,
Never let your manager tell you otherwise.

Lostrebel

Why would you not want to give your view?

If you don't like it, why would you continue to work there?

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



its the only time we get someone telling us a bit of information when it comes up lol, we also usually start getting told "if you have any problems, please come to us about them so we can work to fix them" - Like hell you will, same stuff been broken and missing since the millenium bug came to town ! lmao.

Andi

#11
I work night shift and the only thing I've seen about the WMTY is POS on the canteen tables, no one giving us a pep talk or anything wouldn't matter anyway we know its all c**p you're going to give your honest opinion regardless.  I did mine at home and it wasn't a pretty picture, not that it'll make a difference like every year nothing comes of it.  I think last year all they did on the wall of the outcomes was change the year from the previous year everything else was the same.  At the end of the survey where they asked about anything else to say I said give night shift our redundancy we are sick of this sh*t! Again wont make a difference.

Redx

Our store manager tells us it we don't do a good WMTY you shouldn't be working for the company, and sits next to you in the office while you fill it in

lucgeo

Going by his reasoning, he'd have no staff  ???

He should not be sitting in with you, if you're a union member ask your rep to enforce the rules.
Otherwise an obvious answer is to do it at home, though it goes against the grain to do it in your own time, there is the bonus of filling it in numerous times! All negative obvs  ;)
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Duff McKagan

We had a store manager like that, didn't sit next to us but did try to tell us what to write and essentially said that if we wrote anything negative we should leave the company...it was never that the company was doing anything wrong, never their fault, it was always us being negative and we should leave if we didn't like it.

Happyguy

I don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 

General Thorn

We've had SMs like that as well. Must be coming from the top as to what to say to colleagues and also the sitting in the room.

I always refused to do it if they were in the room. We also had to tick our names off a sheet to show that we had done it. "You know where the door is" and "you're being very negative" and "bringing down the moral of others" were all favourite phrases if you disagreed or questioned anything.

This year it's just the pep talk and they've promised to put the results up for us all to see ..... haven't seen detailed results for a few years now.

BritishRacingGreen

Quote from: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PMI don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 

:thumbup:

happyone

#18
I always do mine on my phone so they can't see my answers also think it's a bit of a waste of time as not much has changed.

penguin

We had a produce manager once who told me I could be arrested for not filling it in, he said as it asks questions on equal opportunities your breaking the law by not completing it and he was not joking he genuinely thought he was correct in what he was saying.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

forrestgimp

Quote from: General Thorn on 24-01-23, 01:00PMJust wondering if all stores get the pep talk beforehand about how great Tesco are and how wonderful your store is?

Amongst other laughable plus points are how we've already received 2 pay rises amounting to more than 8% and how our jobs and wages remained secure during covid lockdown. We also still get told that colleague discount should be added to our wages to show how much we really get paid!

Do all stores basically get the same points raised with a few store specific ones thrown in or is it dependant on the SM?



We used to but they dont bother anymore we just used to laugh at them.

lucgeo

#21
Quote from: Happyguy on 25-01-23, 12:56PMI don't agree with the store manager above's way of doing what he or she did, but they do have a point. If my workplace was so horrible that I felt the need to come on an anonymous website and s**g it off continually, I would know my own worth and leave for a new job. It's actually very simple. Update one's CV, circulate it, look in local paper, Google etc, for new positions, apply, be successful at interview, and leave.
Tesco certainly isn't perfect, far from it, but I don't believe any workplace is ever perfect.
 
Reading some of the comments on here I do wonder why people don't just leave. We can't be that bad to work for as I've noticed one or two posters who are invariably negative about Tesco, openly admitting that they have left once ("escaped") only to return a short time later. How does that work?

I love Tesco, and I'm not ashamed to say so. 

I'm happy you're happy in your job. Seriously I am. There are some good stores out there, run by a good team of managers who take their lead from the SM!
I myself enjoyed working under 2 SM's, the section managers were content in their jobs, in house fighting was unheard of as everyone pulled together as and when needed, and actually enjoyed a good vibe whilst doing it.

Unfortunately the norm now seems to be a breed of narcissistic SM's who enjoy the power of bullying people and have their whole family in employment on the highest hour contracts. Just a personal observation but it seems the shorter they are, the nastier they are!

If you're young enough, have no commitments or financial restraints or just able to move to another job, then that's your choice.

However there are many to whom this is not an option, either they have contracts that fit in with other commitments, or other factors. You also have those colleagues who are in their final stretch of employment years, and for them it's better the devil you know! Then you've got those colleagues who have worked a great deal of years with Tesco, seen many of the changes made over the years, mainly to the detriment of the general workforce! There's where the negativity and mistrust originates from!

At one time the WMTY survey was written forms, sealed and handed in to the PM to send off to HO. Now it's done online, in secret ( supposedly ) and anonymous, why do you think that is?? Because some SM's can't even be trusted not to manipulate and corrupt the feedback. Everything comes down to their bonus and they don't care how they achieve it!

Perhaps a survey on how good your store is on this "anonymous website" would achieve a more honest result than any Tesco manipulated WMTY feedback!
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

dizzy_1

Still wonder how anonymous it is if you have to sign into with your one login. Used to be you all went to a link that asked for your store number and that was it.
i dont have an attitude problem you have a perception problem!

Pathfinder

Had a prep talk before doing it ...i asked manger if he remembered last survey as it was s**t! Nothing has changed ..he hasn't changed so don't expect the results to change.

lucgeo

 @Pathfinder

Got it in one 👍👍

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