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Staff room hygiene questions

Started by person7, 15-01-23, 11:01AM

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2ndtimeround

Yes it is Tesco policy to clean up after yourself.
That's me done bothering to explain to a child who still thinks it's their Mums job to wipe their arse.
As I said previously.-
Some people just want excuses to be lazy.

Nomad

@2ndtimeround, your reacting to this discussion in a typically 'childish tantrum' manner.
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oldfashionedplayer

In the WGLL that it says about colleagues are required to fill the dishwasher, However no colleague will have the training, hence they can ask, just like they can tell people to do the backdoor and people go onto the wagon without safety shoes and vest and go on without being requested to by the wagon driver.. if they don't any or all of the shoes/vest/ authorisation from the driver, then they aren't covered - Protect yourself first and foremost, cause you'll always get screwed.

further to the Contamination bit, you could easily throw in something your not supposed to, damaging the equipment - Making you Liable.

Plenty of colleagues are dumb enough to throw foil in the microwave, why wouldn't they go throwing random stuff in the dishwasher.. or just knocking it in.. Pay me to do it in worktime & give me the food & hygiene then sure  >:D


https://help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021142019-WGLL-Guide-Colleague-Room


Tesco Colleagues will (No hours allocated)
- Follow the clean as you go policy
- Clean up all cutlery, cups and place them in the dishwasher provided
when full switch on – (If no colleague use dishwasher has been provided
please clean items in designated area)
- Put all rubbish in the correct bins provided
- Order all consumables
- Maintain the equipment
- Keep the area clean and tidy by following the established hours format
- Empty the dishwasher when required Work together to correctly and
protect stock
- Maintain the current daily cleaning specification
FM Partners will
- Clean and tidy during the established hours format
- Empty and clean the bins and remove any rubbish in the morning for the
day
- Empty & clean the dishwasher and set up for the day
- Complete the weekly audit process with the Tesco Management Team
- Transfer and fill the available vending machines keeping standards
throughout the week high
- Transfer only agreed free issue items
- Order Chemicals & Kliks
- Work together to correctly store and protect stock
- Deliver the current daily cleaning specification

2ndtimeround

Quote from: Nomad on 16-01-23, 09:39PM@2ndtimeround, your reacting to this discussion in a typically 'childish tantrum' manner.

No tantrum pal. Simply pointing out some hard truths.
It's the "not my job attitude" of the minority that makes life difficult for the majority.
to be honest I've very rarely commented on any post on here but found this one so petty that something needed saying.

Sherwoodforest

@2ndtimeround i work nights,its the same people on nights everytime who put dishwasher on and empty it,about 3/4 of us,,,and the same lazy ones with zero ounce of inititive or general lack of teamwork that dont,lifes too short to worry about training to press a button,morons

Redshoes

When I started with the company we queued up for hot drinks and they were poured for us. We have a starter, main meal and a pudding all made from scratch. It was not free but was worth paying for. It was lovely but it has all gone.
We now have a dish washer we all load with our dirty plates, as we go. We have the means to make very basic food. It's provided free. We clean our tables and have sprays, bottles to do so available. Nobody leaves a mess behind them.
As the dish washer is emptied it has a tablet put back in it ready for next time. It is set on a 45 min wash. Things come out clean. Many of us have taken in our own mugs but there are the basic white ones for those who opt not to do so.

FarmerFred

Quote from: lucgeo on 16-01-23, 04:35PMThe previous canteen staff who used to operate the machinery and worked in the kitchen area were supplied with safety shoes...why do you think that was?? If the door suddenly dropped and fell on your foot, or the scalding water was sprayed all over yourself, or the machine had leaked water all over the floor and you'd slipped on it, what do you think Tesco would say?? 
Kitchen staff were issued with safety shoes because there were a range of hazards such as dropping knives, pans of boiling water etc. The new dishwashers are of the domestic variety - I don't see hotpoint recommending the use of safety shoes in domestic kitchens! If there's a risk of the door suddenly dropping then that risk applies to all people entering the colleague room because the dishwashers are in the open access areas. As for being sprayed with scalding water - the same risk would exist in a domestic setting - the volume and pressure of the water jets is such to make that a very low risk, even with the idiots that seem to inhabit the hallowed halls of grocery retail. Leaks and spillages come under the standard Tesco CAYG policy.

QuoteHave the break times been extended to accommodate this cleaning process, and is this extra few minutes per break, per colleague, paid or remains unpaid?
If I spend time in the canteen sorting out dishwashers due to the lazy feckers just piling stuff on the sides & in the sink then that comes out of my working day, not my break time, if a manager was to question it they're told why. In reality for the majority of colleagues it's a matter of a few seconds to scrape their plates into the bin and shove them into the dishwasher - no longer than it used to take to scrape their plates into the bin before placing their tray onto the canteen racks. In reality we see the same level of behaviour as we've always seen with the lazy fekkers leaving c**p anywhere and dumping plates encrusted with whatever vomit inducing s**t they've just scoffed for someone else to sort out.

randomworker

"It is the responsibility of every colleague to clean up after themselves"

Never liked that c**p coming from management it belongs up there with reporting any mistakes you find or people doing something wrong. If they actually looked at how unattainable their so called ideals are in store then it wouldn't  be so bad. Also if they actually worked alongside colleagues and had proper measurements in place to ensure colleagues were working to a proper standard.

Don't get me wrong I will challenge my fellow colleagues on crappy work and leaving s*** behind them in canteen but it will be done in my own manner and when I choose to do so.

Nomad

Some people have an awful lot to learn about management  8-)  enough said.
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randomworker

What that some are good and some are bad  :D

Nomad

Yes, I would also add the word devious and their application of the principles of self preservation.
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radaghastly

Quote from: 2ndtimeround on 15-01-23, 10:49PMIf your store is only providing bread for toast as food then I'd suggest raising the issue with the store manager. My store offers a range of free options and whilst it's not full meals we can select from Pasta snack type meals, cuppa soups, cereal pots, fruit loaf or crumpets and a few others. These were provided by the company last Autumn and should still be available daily.

This is a temporary trial that will end on week 48 (End of next month, I think) according to the signage in our canteen.

londoner83


oldfashionedplayer

has been extended up until week 27 and then possibly again further but will be getting more information later with it.

surlaroute

can I just say that this entire thread is one of the most perfect illustrations of how messed up your average Tesco store is, people/policy wise, without siding with anyone, though hopefully my saying just this will tell you where my thoughts lie on even this most ridiculous of issues (my store evidently thinks their overstock of cheap antibacterial alcohol gel is a fine substitute for soap in the men's toilets right now, it's effing chinatown out there and any one in this thread assuming the company ideals are pursued and fulfilled universally as a matter of course needs to understand how privileged they are...)

2ndtimeround

All I can suggest is if the expected company standards are not been maintained then the 1st port of call should be the store manager.
If the store manager is not doing anything about it contact the people partner, then there is always both the grievance process and protector line to raise concerns out of store if still needed.

There will always be stores with issues across any company this big, the key to resolving these, lies in highlighting them at a level that has the ability to do something about it.

surlaroute

#41
You're still speaking from a position of privilege where this antiquated approach is feasible. in real terms now there are so many hurdles to actually getting your point across to anyone high enough to do anything about it it is genuinely less worth your time and pay level (to go back to the point of this thread) as wasting your break time on the dishwasher you don't even have use for. they have literally engineered and continue to engineer it to be this way.  the world is completely falling apart if you haven't noticed yet and this company, this thread, is a full example of it.

2ndtimeround

Nothing to do with privilege.
Simply a case of been prepared to speak up rather than moan about things to those that can't actually solve the problem.
Playing the victim never fixed a problem.

Cheerleader

Quote from: person7 on 15-01-23, 11:01AMDoes anyone else have concerning hygiene issues in the staff room?

I mean most people clean up after themselves but the contracted cleaners are only ones allowed to check and turn on the dishwashers.

And NOT ONCE have THEY EVER used tablets.

Knives forks especially cups and glasses all full of grime.

I've tried to feedback to store manager using the anonymous forum box they do but nothing has been done.

It's got to the point I can't get a drink all day as.. Well the cups and glasses look dirty and smell of rotten egg.. In fact the dishwasher themselves stink of rotten food and rotten eggs.

Anyone else have this issue since staff canteens have closed? And any advice.

Some shifts if I'm alone and caretaker has gone I sneak a 60/70oC wash but there's no tablets anywhere.

Caretakers ALWAYS out "quick 20 minute wash 20oC" with NO dishwasher salt or rinse aid or any dishwashing tablets or liquid (I've seen them set it many times and once asked about tablet and he said "we don't have any and don't need them anyway I never use them at home")



OK so bring your own?
Wash it in the sink?
You have a locker you can have your own set and some fairly liquid.

Ridiculous thing to be moaning at

Truthtalker

I'd recommend talking to your line manager.  They could definitely sort out the issues you've described. Don't be afraid to talk to your store manager personally either, they will  Definitely help.  As a last resort, protector line would get it to your SD to address.
It's never as bad as you think

Deadpool

The cleaning manager, whoever it is for your store is responsible for ordering dishwasher tablets from the budget allocated to their department. As for operating the dishwasher tesco state it is everyones reaponsibilty to look after and maintain the staff room. The cleaners are responsible for certain aspects however every staff room should have a domestic dishwasher which is usable by staff since they changed from industry equipment to domestic for this reason as no special chemicals are required nor special training on operating such equipment

Voulezvous

If i had to put my dirty cup in the dishwasher at the end of my break and the dishwasher needed emptied them my manager would certainly be wondering where i was and probably wouldn't be too happy i was up in the canteen emptying the dishwasher instead of filling shelves, and no im not emptying and refilling the dishwasher on an unpaid break either.

lucgeo

Quote from: Deadpool on 30-01-23, 04:20AMThe cleaning manager, whoever it is for your store is responsible for ordering dishwasher tablets from the budget allocated to their department. As for operating the dishwasher tesco state it is everyones reaponsibilty to look after and maintain the staff room. The cleaners are responsible for certain aspects however every staff room should have a domestic dishwasher which is usable by staff since they changed from industry equipment to domestic for this reason as no special chemicals are required nor special training on operating such equipment


So how often is this domestic dishwasher given a deep clean, and by whom?
Kettles, toasters and even microwaves are pretty self explanatory to operate, unclean or soiled areas that are questionable are clearly visible.

I would also question the warranty of this domestic dishwasher in the workplace regarding insurance in the event of causing a serious injury to an untrained user ???  All dishwashers have a user manual on different cycles which a household would familiarise themselves with.

CAYG is a prime example of Tesco bringing in extra duties through the back door, dropping paid contracted hours of in store cleaners, and passing it onto the colleagues unpaid!

I wouldn't use any unclean equipment and I certainly wouldn't clean it after somebody else, before being able to use it! Tesco may state it's everybody's responsibility to look after and maintain the staff room, but if Tesco provide the equipment, they are responsible for ensuring it is fit for use. End of!!
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Attilla


person7

Quote from: Cheerleader on 19-01-23, 06:03PMOK so bring your own?
Wash it in the sink?
You have a locker you can have your own set and some fairly liquid.

Ridiculous thing to be moaning at

so its "ridiculous" to complain about hyegine in a major supermarket staff canteen now? that OVER HALF the staff are constantly sick.

PS: i DONT have a locker. theres only 10 lockers for over 250 staff and i shouldnt have to spend money buying and bringing stuff to do myself when theres over 250 of us.

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