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New contracts

Started by BigBear, 15-02-23, 09:35PM

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BigBear

I have been told the new contract you have to give half your contract hours in availability, I am full time, so if I wanted to drop a day I would go on to the new contract and  old end up working  more hours rather than less? Does anyone  have any information on this please

SpudChucker1970

If you joined before 24th July 2022 you only give 50% availability on any extra contracted hours you pick up

andzdrew

No. When INCREASING hours, you must give availability for 50% of the increase amount only.
You have been misinformed.

Sherwoodforest

@bigbear you havent said if your a flexi contract,yes I've worked with people on full time flexi contracts before,before anyone says anything,if your not a flexi contract then dropping hours wouldnt put you on a different contract
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BigBear

I'm old school full time, I have been told if I want to make any changes to my hours, changing days off, I would have a new contract  and I would have to give more time availability. Someone I work with has had his happen. They  only have a 3 day contract so it's not nuchal for them

forrestgimp

Quote from: BigBear on 15-02-23, 09:35PMI have been told the new contract you have to give half your contract hours in availability, I am full time, so if I wanted to drop a day I would go on to the new contract and  old end up working  more hours rather than less? Does anyone  have any information on this please

just put down the hours you do now no more no less. This is not new we have been doing availability form for years.

Sherwoodforest

@bigbear sounds like a question a wage clerk could answer,sounds like a blag to me,of course you,d have a new contract(it,l have less hours on)but your not applying for a new job so i dont get where thyre coming from with that
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Ginsoakedlush

Everybody went on to the new contracts when the "new ways of working" went live back in November. There are now only permanent and temporary contract options available. As you joined the company before this time you are not obligated to give ANY extra availability regardless of how many hours you do. I am a wages clerk and I hope this helps

btblackbird

Hi all, is it true all staff both old timers and new will have to be trained on tills and dot com. Current training modules are Pick, serve and fill and this includes nights. We have been told that it will form part of new availability eg you can be allocated to cover tills at night, then fill and in morning pick for dot com all within your allocated overnight shift. We have been told by management the work will be allocated by system so when you start work those are the jobs you can expect to do. Seems very wrong to me, especially as if you joined before 2005 they can't force you to be till trained. Any clarity on this would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance

Redshoes

There is no requirement for existing colleague to increase availability. It's only a request. Going forward any new contracted hours issued to colleagues will require availability to match, for example you take on one additional shift of four hours that you would need to have six hours availability for. This is not for change of hours, this applies to people going up in contracted hours.

Nomad

@btblackbird try the following topic.

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GotAClubcard

The new contracts have started dropping in our store.

londoner83

Btblackbird - yes you are correct. A colleague can be scheduled across up to 4 departments during their shift depending on where the workload is. The idea is that no longer will say the sole colleague on BWS struggle with a mountain of cages whilst 4 front end colleagues sit idle waiting for a customer.

Every colleague will via pick/fill/serve training be able to complete any task. With regards checkouts, it includes the option to man self-serve/scan as you shop which were largely unheard of when the 2005 agreement was drawn up.

Long term the aim is every colleague gives wider availability windows so that even the hours you work are flexed around where the actual workload is....so rather than doing Mon-Fri 10am till 7pm if you availability matches the actual demand you could be scheduled Tues-Sat 3pm - midnight one week then 10am-7pm the next.

madness

#13
Quote from: londoner83 on 24-02-23, 07:25AMBtblackbird - yes you are correct. A colleague can be scheduled across up to 4 departments during their shift depending on where the workload is. The idea is that no longer will say the sole colleague on BWS struggle with a mountain of cages whilst 4 front end colleagues sit idle waiting for a customer.

That is kind of the point of the 10 am meeting. department A I'm struggling today. Department B. I have people spare as schedule says we are quiet at xxx time.

What actually happened though was department B never sends someone to help out or they moan that its too heavy why me and or get called back within 5 minutes to the checkout because the team support has freaked out at 1 more person in the queue.

Redshoes

System works on if the hours are in the right place but there are issues that have not been resolved. If a dept is over hours it will move people but if not it won't.  Not a lot of hours are given to either grocery or fresh to fill. Both areas require help, daily, even with them both running over hours.
We have raised the times people are needed in to fill as an issue.
For my store fresh and grocery are over hours. CSD and PFS are bang on but checkouts is under hours, not by many and it's due to recent leavers. Shop floor resent supporting checkouts, it has always been that way. All I'm saying is that you should not assume that it will be checkout colleagues that are put to shop floor.
The system has put fill hours in the wrong place for some stores too. This is an issue we have raised for our store. One example is we have fresh team in at night to turn the back stock but the fill team should start two hours before our delivery arrives in the morning.

lackofinterest

today i spent roughly 2 hours in my main role and the rest elsewhere. it's a f****ng shambles >:(

lackofinterest

there was loads needed doing on my section. taking the p**s basically >:(

Redshoes

Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-02-23, 06:27PMtoday i spent roughly 2 hours in my main role and the rest elsewhere. it's a f****ng shambles >:(

There could be a lot more of this going forward. No point in stock control doing gap scan when 10 cages handed over from grocery. No point in filling fresh when back stock has been worked but delivery is late. Only 200 sels have come down but checkouts has had two sick calls.

Redshoes

A lot will depend on how many hours over your dept is. The rest will depend on the needs of your store.

lackofinterest

this new contract rubbish is just an excuse to take the p**s >:(

madness

Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-02-23, 06:27PMtoday i spent roughly 2 hours in my main role and the rest elsewhere. it's a f****ng shambles >:(

what exactly happened? You came in for x hour shift and got put where instead of where etc?

lackofinterest

we are supposed to still have a main role where we are supposed to spend most time. not 2 hours here, 2 hours there, anywhere but where you are needed most

newguy20

#22
Quote from: Redshoes on 25-02-23, 08:56AM
Quote from: lackofinterest on 24-02-23, 06:27PMtoday i spent roughly 2 hours in my main role and the rest elsewhere. it's a f****ng shambles >:(

There could be a lot more of this going forward. No point in stock control doing gap scan when 10 cages handed over from grocery. No point in filling fresh when back stock has been worked but delivery is late. Only 200 sels have come down but checkouts has had two sick calls.

Absolutely makes sense, in theory, if done properly. The challenge comes in the implementation.

Suppose you have a shift which is 2hrs on checkouts, followed by 2hrs on produce, you finish your 2hrs on checkouts but there are queues so team support says stay - then when you go, an hour late, it's a complete nightmare with stuff everywhere and constantly behind trying to catch up.... or the produce manager comes to find you on a till and has a go at you for still being there!

We have one checkout shift which is like this, 4pm-10pm, it's supposed to be a mixture of 1hr of trollies mixed with 1hr of checkouts then back on trollies and so forth... What usually happens is the guy is kept on a till until the trollies are going into the road and then there's a big hoo-har about it.

londoner83

Exactly. In theory working multiple departments in a day sounds good on paper but in reality even on replenishment areas will you leave half a dozen cases not worked on your cage as the clock hits midday or would you stay and finish them off and go late to your next task?

Redshoes

What is tending to happen is that those on my hours are doing more tasks. I have another colleague who has this week been given an extra shift but on the shop floor. She asked me about it and I said to go for it as I think it's a good thing and happens to be the way things are going.
I have shifts coming up in the pfs in a few months as someone retires soon. I have had interest from a few people. Doing one shift gives that colleague extra contracted hours. It keeps the skill live and increases the headcount of trained colleagues. Advertising as a single job is the old way of doing this.
This is early days. There will be more and more people contracted to work in different areas. When a dept has hours cut they may be able to stay in that role as primary task but take on shifts in other areas. I work in a SS and my store has been doing this for years. As hours have come out of cash office and wages those colleagues do other things too on a regular weekly basis. Stock control also do PI and some filling. The woman from news anf mags also does C&C. The CSD do flowers and the Costa coffee cleaning early in the morning. We have been working like this for so long that fresh have almost forgotten that the flowers should sit with them.

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