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We should be told today.

Quote from: Redshoes on 06-02-23, 05:40AMWe should be told today.

Didn't think this was until the 22/2 ?

Quote from: penguin on 05-02-23, 06:02PMStore manager is a total idiot saying that, ultimately shrink in his store sits with him and stuff not turning up in the first place causes more than its fare share of it.

Store Managers after going on a shrink course: "shrink is all down to us"
Also Store Managers: "we're cutting stock control hours, the depot doesn't send everything in as they've also cut hours and we're putting more self scan tills in, all because profit"

Now sit back and enjoy the pikachu face as the stock results tank and profitability suffers.

Quote from: Redshoes on 06-02-23, 05:40AMWe should be told today.

Consultation with usdaw starts today. They've got 3 consultation meetings and then we'll find out the criteria.

Tesco could end up with no managers.
Our store all are considering leaving and 2/3rds have at least 1 or 2 job interviews already.
SM is bricking it over this.

SM will find out about the structures for their store today.

The criteria for how the points system will work still hasn't been agreed

They already know the structure. We were all told last week.

The points system will rank the managers AUTOMATICALLY, then the SM manager will pick who he/she wants for each role, then a store manager from another store will look over that decision, question it/agree it and it goes from there.   

Quote from: madness on 06-02-23, 01:51PMTesco could end up with no managers.
Our store all are considering leaving and 2/3rds have at least 1 or 2 job interviews already.
SM is bricking it over this.

When one leaves, another will replace.. Tesco are very good at the selling the options bull c**p to colleagues who want to progress. I fell for it years ago and 2 years ago I jacked it all in and moved to Depot as an HGV driver and lets just say making a ton more money and work life balance is 10x's what it was before. You give and give for the company and all they have done to those who have dedicated everything for them is s*** on them from a great distance and dont give a c**p. What Dave Lewis did was needed or else 300k people would have been out of a job at the time, Ken on the other hand I think is setting the business up for a takeover by the Americans. Business cannot performe as well as it has and the share price is still low. Something isnt adding up.

Agreed  BUT,   ours have been boiling frog syndrome for years now.  "heres one more department, heres one more crappy routine every 3rd sunday, 10 hours cut from department, 5 hours cut, here 1 extra duty than you had before.

Anyone now jumping into it will think "sack this for a game of soldiers"

There are no winners

Its going to be s*** for the managers who stay as managers and even more s*** for those who become shift leaders.

The thing about my store is that there are two, maybe three, managers who blagged their way to the top. They should never have been signed off so if they score high and remain as managers its going to become very apparent, very quickly, that they can't cope  and all their failings will be exposed.   

One of the Union reps in our store believes that length of service will only be used in a tie. She also thinks if you have recently had any live warnings or currently have an active one you are probably bottom of the pile.   

The problem with that is your union rep has as much clue as anyone and is guessing, she will have been told exactly nothing.

If  your a manager going through it, I feel sorry for you being in limbo, as an ex manager we all know how it works, sm have there favourites, as do leads etc, as for sm signing off other stores, there going to stick together, warnings, performance sometimes not a true reflection of a manager, I had a few ambers over the years, but I bet the day fresh manager got a green even though they couldn't turn back-stock, I bet fresh stock got green even though overstocks, potentials reductions weren't great, but it made the day lead look good to have his team green, good luck to you all in the politics of it all.

Come on then, I'm sure someone here now knows the criteria, my sm said it was coming down today

Quote from: BenPvfc on 06-02-23, 07:23AM

Quote from: Redshoes on 06-02-23, 05:40AMWe should be told today.

Didn't think this was until the 22/2 ?

I was not clear. We should be told the criteria. I'm told it's four weeks after that we are told who gets to stay or go.

Quote from: madness on 06-02-23, 01:51PMTesco could end up with no managers.
Our store all are considering leaving and 2/3rds have at least 1 or 2 job interviews already.
SM is bricking it over this.

If someone scores high and they get a job they are not vulnerable. No redundancy is on offer to them. Step down and redundancy is only on offer to the vulnerable managers.

@redshoes i heard the same from 1 of our managers,if your chosen no redundancy on offer

If you score well and are matched to a role, redundancy isn't a option. Heard Usdaw were going to ask Tesco to offer voluntary redundancy but unsure if it will be granted as potentially hundreds of good managers could take the cash and run - leaving stores with vacancies.

At the moment that's the case, redundancy only offered to those not selected.

Could leave the business in a bad position with a lot of managers looking for work now due to not knowing where they stand. We could see a mass exit leaving the business struggle to fill positions.

Quote from: Davethebave on 07-02-23, 07:42AMAt the moment that's the case, redundancy only offered to those not selected.
Could leave the business in a bad position with a lot of managers looking for work now due to not knowing where they stand. We could see a mass exit leaving the business struggle to fill positions.

Quote from: Davethebave on 07-02-23, 07:42AMAt the moment that's the case, redundancy only offered to those not selected.

Could leave the business in a bad position with a lot of managers looking for work now due to not knowing where they stand. We could see a mass exit leaving the business struggle to fill positions.

At least 3 of the managers in my store are already looking for new jobs so even if selected are not likely to stay long.

I was also told by two managers that our SM told them redundancy would only be an option if they didn't pass the score system. So its shift leader role or take redundancy.

My worry is that I have no faith in the point system. Like I've said many times on here, our store is littered with really c**p managers that the SM thinks can do no wrong while the good managers are always getting it in the neck.

And speaking of the criteria, anyone have the details yet?

The "new" team manager job is going to be way too big for anyone, the shift leader may as well be called shift dogsbody.

TAKE REDUNDANCY IF OFFERED, GET ANOTHER JOB NOW IF NOT, WHATEVER HAPPENS MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE THIS COMPANY. THEY HATE YOU... HATE THEM BACK

One of the interesting things I heard, if you are a manager who previously took redundancy but then returned later you are not eligible for any new redundancy package and it might effect how you are rated with the scoring.

Can that be confirmed?

Not sure but my SM has implied exceptions will form some part of it. I'm guessing if you are a manager who isn't uploading overtime/allocating shifts or letting your staff clock in and out as they please then you might be scored down.