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Team Managers about to get demoted-lose pay!

Started by markwinters, 29-12-22, 11:06AM

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RaceToTheBottom

There are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift

trolleyboy96

Quote from: Prince of Darkness on 23-01-23, 11:09AMI reckon my SS doing about 900l/week will go to SM, Fresh Manager, Grocery Manager, & Services (Checkouts, CSD + PFS) Mgr. We will lose LM Admin and Stock mgr and a part-timer who covers Cash Office, CSD & PFS Mgr. We now have 5 Shift Leaders (from zero a year ago).


This is what we have now in a 500k superstore, shift leaders it varies as it's hours rather than staff, I think we have 6 currently but only 1 full time rest our part time.

Checkout Superstar

#277
Quote from: RaceToTheBottom on 23-01-23, 01:31PMThere are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift

You will still be contracted to a primary department where your hours will be worked. The scheduler should only move people as and when needed but if everyone is in the right place it shouldn't be a case of being moved every day to a different department.  It should only be a case of moving people to cover holidays etc.

In terms of the new scheduler I think people are getting worked up over nothing. You will not be put on four different departments in one day unless your initial hours are in the wrong place which if they are then its most likely you will be moved anyway.

Checkout Superstar

#278
Quote from: Prince of Darkness on 23-01-23, 11:09AMI reckon my SS doing about 900l/week will go to SM, Fresh Manager, Grocery Manager, & Services (Checkouts, CSD + PFS) Mgr. We will lose LM Admin and Stock mgr and a part-timer who covers Cash Office, CSD & PFS Mgr. We now have 5 Shift Leaders (from zero a year ago).


I've heard similar in our store. I think bread, produce, dairy/meat are going to merge with only one manager over seeing them with checkouts/CSD/PFS also doing the same with only one manager.

So that would see us lose 4 managers in one swoop. (although one of them will probably end up being given the new bigger fresh department.) We are an extra. I think the stock control and non food managers will stay, for now.

However its the time frame for this which baffles me. If nights are moving to days, fish counters are going, several managers are going and departments are merging that seems like too much of a change within such a short time frame to actually work. So either its going to be phased over 12 - 18 months or its total rubbish.   


rogerthedodger

There are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift


What about Drive 😀

FarmerFred

Quote from: RaceToTheBottom on 23-01-23, 01:31PMThere are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift
So is everyone going to have the full bronze/silver training for every department then? Everyone trained for the safe & legal recording for every department? Everyone trained for backdoor & supplied with PPE? Everyone trained for every department waste, date scan & reductions? All this by July along with training everyone on checkouts and DotCom?

Seymee

It would appear that checkouts/CSD/PFS are going to be merged in selected superstores and store specific extras with only one manager overseeing the lot and additional team support roles created

Checkout Superstar

#283
Quote from: FarmerFred on 23-01-23, 05:52PM
Quote from: RaceToTheBottom on 23-01-23, 01:31PMThere are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift
So is everyone going to have the full bronze/silver training for every department then? Everyone trained for the safe & legal recording for every department? Everyone trained for backdoor & supplied with PPE? Everyone trained for every department waste, date scan & reductions? All this by July along with training everyone on checkouts and DotCom?

By July everyone in Superstores and Extras will be required to have all fresh departments as well as Grocery/BWS alongside dotcom (picker) and checkouts listed as departments on My Tesco.

Non Food/CSD/PFS/Stock control/cash office/admin/wages/backdoor will not be required but you raise a good point about waste. I'm guessing over time everyone will have to be trained on how to do it.

Checkout Superstar

Quote from: Mikoo on 23-01-23, 05:54PMIt would appear that checkouts/CSD/PFS are going to be merged in selected superstores and store specific extras with only one manager overseeing the lot and additional team support roles created

It look that way. In my store the CSD/PFS manager is best friends with the Front End team leader so it will be fun watching the back stabbing and fireworks once both realise they are gonna have to fight for the same job.

Sizzle1968

Quote from: Mikoo on 23-01-23, 05:54PMIt would appear that checkouts/CSD/PFS are going to be merged in selected superstores and store specific extras with only one manager overseeing the lot and additional team support roles created

Thats been the caes in our Extra for over a year?

Sizzle1968

So Extra Team Managers....... how many TMs do you have at the moment???
We take over £1.2m but still have 14 TMs

Checkout Superstar

Quote from: Sizzle1968 on 23-01-23, 06:26PM
Quote from: Mikoo on 23-01-23, 05:54PMIt would appear that checkouts/CSD/PFS are going to be merged in selected superstores and store specific extras with only one manager overseeing the lot and additional team support roles created

Thats been the caes in our Extra for over a year?

Most of this seems like its going to be store specific but I wonder who makes this decision, is it the SM in conjunction with the area manager or is it the SM alone.

If its the SM alone then I can see how this is going to go. For example lets use the frontend/customer service desk. If the frontend manager is more experience than the customer service desk manager but the CSD manager is the SM favourite (despite being incompetent) and the CDS manager then gets the gig everyone is going to know why.

I feel sorry for all the good managers who are about to be displaced by the arselickers - who in my experience are usually the most lazy. 

rogerthedodger

Quote from: Sizzle1968 on 23-01-23, 06:27PMSo Extra Team Managers....... how many TMs do you have at the moment???
We take over £1.2m but still have 14 TMs

14 team managers no wonder they need to get rid

Seymee

My extra has 10 daytime team managers, 5 of which are at dot com. Two daytime leads.

Nights has one lead, two team leaders

madness

Quote from: Sizzle1968 on 23-01-23, 06:27PMSo Extra Team Managers....... how many TMs do you have at the moment???
We take over £1.2m but still have 14 TMs

Jesus we have been at 1 front end manager, 1 fresh 1 grocery and 1 stock admin merch manager for nearly 2 years now. along with 4 shift leaders.

That is where it must be getting forced now.
Can't believe there are still stores on 14 managers.

Redshoes

Quote from: Mikoo on 23-01-23, 05:54PMIt would appear that checkouts/CSD/PFS are going to be merged in selected superstores and store specific extras with only one manager overseeing the lot and additional team support roles created

Been doing that role for a few years now. One manger with almost half the store in head count. Team Support taken away just over a year ago so the day to day of checkouts is run by Off Till colleagues with no skill pay, they are on less than the CSD and the same as every other colleague in the store.

Sherwoodforest

#292
Our extra 2 leads(1 dot com) 1 front end,1 gm,clothing 1 fresh,produce 1 grocery,h and b 1 bakery,bws 2 dot com 1 night lead and 2 managers,1 of the nights is placement,think we take under a mil,oh and a stock and admun
Tesco Finest Karma,best served bent over💩

Prince of Darkness

Quote from: Redshoes on 24-01-23, 12:03AMBeen doing that role for a few years now. One manger with almost half the store in head count. Team Support taken away just over a year ago so the day to day of checkouts is run by Off Till colleagues with no skill pay, they are on less than the CSD and the same as every other colleague in the store.
We started using the tills scheduler correctly in the last month so it is easy to see that Team Supports could go soon in our store. I guess we will get an 18 month cushion payment but with the skills payment not going up in the last 5 years it's withering to a worthless amount anyway  :D .

randomworker

Quote from: Checkout Superstar on 23-01-23, 03:57PM
Quote from: RaceToTheBottom on 23-01-23, 01:31PMThere are no departments,  all colleagues are just tesco colleagues now

Will be 1 manager for FILL

1 manager for SERVE

I manager for PICK

All Tesco colleagues will be fully trained by 28th July 2023 as per new contract

Schedule to workload
Schedule to availability will determine where the tesco colleagues are working

Shift leaders to run the shift

You will still be contracted to a primary department where your hours will be worked. The scheduler should only move people as and when needed but if everyone is in the right place it shouldn't be a case of being moved every day to a different department.  It should only be a case of moving people to cover holidays etc.

In terms of the new scheduler I think people are getting worked up over nothing. You will not be put on four different departments in one day unless your initial hours are in the wrong place which if they are then its most likely you will be moved anyway.

Ex Metro store now a large store and I can jump between dairy, checkouts and BWS in a single 6.5hr shift.

GotAClubcard

So for Extras it looks like this is what's happening.

Management restructure. 

Checkouts/SAYS/SelfServe/CSD/PFS - all being merged under one manager with reduced roles for Team Support as more ''off till activity'' roles are created

Fresh merging as one with Bread/Dairy/Meat/Produce all falling under one manager instead of 3 with additional Shift Leader roles created

Grocery  - 1 mananger

Non Food/F&F - 1 manager

Stock Control/Cash Office/Admin/Merch/Wages - 1 manager

so it will be the fresh and front areas most effected by the manager changes.

Shop Floor

Night shift Health & Beauty/Frozen/BWS moving to days perm. Most of this has already been rolled out.

Fish Counters to close in May with Hot Deli's going in specific stores also.

Reduced routines for stock control/Admin/Wages


magic1

Can I ask where you've got this information from please? Also, what changes for Dot Com?
 

Seymee

5 team managers overseeing the shop floor does seem accurate of where we are heading.

I wonder how they will restructure dot com.

Sherwoodforest

@alwayssearching no mention of lead managers?night structure?
Tesco Finest Karma,best served bent over💩

TheDD

Store/Lead managers are currently being informed of changes via a zoom call.

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