verylittlehelps

@bobmay you ever thought of writing to santa claus and asking him to remove nights in your store?or havent you been a good boy,and not filled them shelves?

🤣🤣🤣🤣

what is interesting is that when the legal minimum reaches £11 per hour staff on nights in stores within the m25 who get the maximum location allowence of .68p and full time will be earning £2000 per month
Possibly full time team leaders will be on £2300

That would be great for youngsters, I couldn't go back to nights though, it gets to a certain point in your life where you can't hack it anymore and £24k a year while it sounds good for entry level work, I'd say the path of least resistance is finding a better role during the day somewhere else, I'd even suggest working as a warehouse operative at Tesco would be better and less stressful overall than working nights.

Anyone know when the new pay deal is due to be announced?

Well that's agreement with Tesco bank and Usdaw completed

Date: 19 January 2023
Usdaw has welcomed Tesco Bank agreement to a £1,250 pay increase (on a full-time equivalent basis) for over 3,400 staff, to help with the increased cost of living. Over 90% of the bank's workforce, those who are likely to be feeling the greatest impact from current cost of living challenges, are eligible for the increase which was effective from 8 January 2023.

Assuming a 37.5 hour a week work week which is the norm in most places (mine is 37.5 hours a week in the Tesco office) that equates to an increase of 64p per hour, if it's a 36 hour work week (which  is the norm for non-managerial office roles), that figure goes up to 66-67p an hour.

If wages are similar at Tesco bank in being near the minimum wage, it's a good indication of what's in store for store colleagues, even a 60p an hour increase would push wages up to £11 an hour as a minimum.

So tesco bank are getting a 1250 pounds cost of living payment what about the rest of the staff.

Quote from: randomworker on 19-01-23, 11:10AMWell that's agreement with Tesco bank and Usdaw completed

Date: 19 January 2023
Usdaw has welcomed Tesco Bank agreement to a £1,250 pay increase (on a full-time equivalent basis) for over 3,400 staff, to help with the increased cost of living. Over 90% of the bank's workforce, those who are likely to be feeling the greatest impact from current cost of living challenges, are eligible for the increase which was effective from 8 January 2023.

Surprised its starting from start of January, was expecting any wage increase to start from the end of March payday.

Here is the rest of the info. They get a pay review in May so they will be on different time scale.....

The uplift to salaries, which followed discussions between Tesco Bank and Usdaw, is in addition to the bank's annual pay review which will follow in May 2023 as normal and will see further uplifts in pay for the majority of employees.
 
Daniel Adams – Usdaw National Officer says: "As the cost of living crisis has deepened, Usdaw has continued to engage with Tesco Bank on what can be done to support employees through this incredibly difficult time.  As a result, and following challenging yet constructive negotiations before Christmas, we were pleased to be able agree a £1,250 uplift to salaries ahead of the normal pay review in May.
 
"Not only is this a welcome step but, given this is a permanent increase rather than one off payment, it will also flow through into other elements of the reward package, including pensions and bonus. Furthermore, the approach demonstrates the value of employers working positively with trade unions."

If it takes place after April, it would indicate they are already on more than £10.42, possibly not by much though.

This payrise has already been applied from 8th Jan - it's just their normal annual pay review that takes place in May - so it may be that the £1250 increase was needed to increase their pay above the upcoming NLW.

Now that I know much about "office" pay for Tesco - I'm bracketing "Bank" as office - I suspected it would be in excess of £11 ph already?

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 11-01-23, 04:50PMA lot of industry years ago had unions with a lot of clout, yes they probably got paid well, but where is coal, steel and car industry now?  priced out the market by cheaper labour abroad.  Pay has to be sustainable for the company and sector to continue, our competition is aldi, lidl, asda so Tesco only doing what it needs to be doing to continue in the market.

Utter rubbish. Are you seriously trying to justify subsistence wages because 'other countries pay less'?

We get paid a pittance so share holders can be paid more and more and more which then makes the top dogs at tesco get paid more and more and more.

Its so stupid an argument that it makes me wonder if you really believe it or if you are a shill of somekind.

Quote from: barafear on 19-01-23, 05:36PMThis payrise has already been applied from 8th Jan - it's just their normal annual pay review that takes place in May - so it may be that the £1250 increase was needed to increase their pay above the upcoming NLW.

Now that I know much about "office" pay for Tesco - I'm bracketing "Bank" as office - I suspected it would be in excess of £11 ph already?

Tesco Bank is treated as a separate company to Tesco, similar to how One-stop is, though all Tesco Bank jobs would be office based, I doubt it would be the same type of work environment I work in, pay in office roles aren't all high paying.

To speculate on your assumption that they are paid in excess of £11 an hour though (they may or may not be, I think they wouldn't be much north of £11 an hour at most, going by the statement made by Tesco specifying their lowest paid staff would be facing "cost of living" challenges to me indicates that they may be on less than the real living wage of £10.90 an hour as Tesco do like to factor in things like colleague discounts and other staff benefits as an arbitrary figure to an overall reward package as opposed to basing it off just the base pay).

If we say for simplicity's sake that they are on £11 an hour now, a full timer getting £1,250 extra a year assuming a 36 hour week would work out at 66p per hour, meaning they potentially may have been on £10.34 an hour working out as an increase of about 6.4%, which actually fits in quite nicely with my previous predictions around the upcoming store pay reviews.

Quote from: forrestgimp on 22-01-23, 05:52PM

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 11-01-23, 04:50PMA lot of industry years ago had unions with a lot of clout, yes they probably got paid well, but where is coal, steel and car industry now?  priced out the market by cheaper labour abroad.  Pay has to be sustainable for the company and sector to continue, our competition is aldi, lidl, asda so Tesco only doing what it needs to be doing to continue in the market.

Utter rubbish. Are you seriously trying to justify subsistence wages because 'other countries pay less'?

We get paid a pittance so share holders can be paid more and more and more which then makes the top dogs at tesco get paid more and more and more.

Its so stupid an argument that it makes me wonder if you really believe it or if you are a shill of somekind.

Pittance? So you want the same wage as an Aldi worker then so that your wage will be no longer be a pittance?

Quote from: NightAndDay on 22-01-23, 07:55PM

Quote from: barafear on 19-01-23, 05:36PMThis payrise has already been applied from 8th Jan - it's just their normal annual pay review that takes place in May - so it may be that the £1250 increase was needed to increase their pay above the upcoming NLW.

Now that I know much about "office" pay for Tesco - I'm bracketing "Bank" as office - I suspected it would be in excess of £11 ph already?

Tesco Bank is treated as a separate company to Tesco, similar to how One-stop is, though all Tesco Bank jobs would be office based, I doubt it would be the same type of work environment I work in, pay in office roles aren't all high paying.

To speculate on your assumption that they are paid in excess of £11 an hour though (they may or may not be, I think they wouldn't be much north of £11 an hour at most, going by the statement made by Tesco specifying their lowest paid staff would be facing "cost of living" challenges to me indicates that they may be on less than the real living wage of £10.90 an hour as Tesco do like to factor in things like colleague discounts and other staff benefits as an arbitrary figure to an overall reward package as opposed to basing it off just the base pay).

If we say for simplicity's sake that they are on £11 an hour now, a full timer getting £1,250 extra a year assuming a 36 hour week would work out at 66p per hour, meaning they potentially may have been on £10.34 an hour working out as an increase of about 6.4%, which actually fits in quite nicely with my previous predictions around the upcoming store pay reviews.

I don't want to disagree specifically, but I'd just like to point out a couple of bits....

Tesco's statement about supporting the lowest paid.....you seem to assume that includes Tesco Bank staff?

And to think that before this payrise that they would have been on the equivalent of 10.34 an hour seems unlikely, but as I say, I don't actually know what they do get paid. Anyone on here work for Tesco Bank and can give an indication?

Slight correction on my part, it wasn't Tesco that mentioned the cost of living aspect, but USDAW, going by RandomWorkers earlier comment quoting

"Over 90% of the bank's workforce,
those who are likely to be feeling the greatest impact from current cost of living challenges, are eligible for the increase which was effective from 8 January 2023"

The wording seems to suggest that they may have been below the real living wage before the announcement, but again, it's speculation, I have no info on this.

A quick Google on Tesco bank staff pay indicates they're currently on £11 an hour, though it may not be accurate, several sites place their wages at or below that level, which to me suggests they aren't highly paid, at least, not significantly more than CAs.

Heard unofficially from a rep it`ll be £10.90 with some of the cost zero benefits from the survey being offered. Sainsbury's put money into the £11 an hour they got, Tesco won't do that.

What are the cost zero benefits?

Quote from: NightAndDay on 23-01-23, 09:32AMSlight correction on my part, it wasn't Tesco that mentioned the cost of living aspect, but USDAW, going by RandomWorkers earlier comment quoting

"Over 90% of the bank's workforce,
those who are likely to be feeling the greatest impact from current cost of living challenges, are eligible for the increase which was effective from 8 January 2023"

The wording seems to suggest that they may have been below the real living wage before the announcement, but again, it's speculation, I have no info on this.

A quick Google on Tesco bank staff pay indicates they're currently on £11 an hour, though it may not be accurate, several sites place their wages at or below that level, which to me suggests they aren't highly paid, at least, not significantly more than CAs.

Actually - after I wrote my previous comment I did a quick Google - and via that found Glassdoor - and that suggested average annual salary of just under £21k - so based onb 36 hour week, that would be about £11/hr; so I guess this extra £1250 would indeed take them to £11.65 ish.....not too great - but again, not too different to the starter rate for an instore line manager.

Whatever the perceived benefits of the NLW, it has created a "squeezed" remuneration scale - meaning supervisors/shift leaders/lower level management are on not much more than a GA!!

It depends on when it was updated, it says January 2023, so could be one way or the other, I suspect the ones which state ~19k a year are probably outdated.

Still if we assume £11 an hour increased to £11.66 an hour, that's still an increase of 6% which would be on the low end up my estimate for what Tescos upcoming pay review will be for CA's, but would still result in at least £11 an hour from £10.40 an hour.

When is the payrise due to be announced?

Quote from: NightAndDay on 23-01-23, 01:04PMIt depends on when it was updated, it says January 2023, so could be one way or the other, I suspect the ones which state ~19k a year are probably outdated.

Still if we assume £11 an hour increased to £11.66 an hour, that's still an increase of 6% which would be on the low end up my estimate for what Tescos upcoming pay review will be for CA's, but would still result in at least £11 an hour from £10.40 an hour.

Currently on 10.30 an hour - but I get your drift!

Quote from: barafear on 23-01-23, 12:31PM

Quote from: NightAndDay on 23-01-23, 09:32AMSlight correction on my part, it wasn't Tesco that mentioned the cost of living aspect, but USDAW, going by RandomWorkers earlier comment quoting

"Over 90% of the bank's workforce,
those who are likely to be feeling the greatest impact from current cost of living challenges, are eligible for the increase which was effective from 8 January 2023"


Whatever the perceived benefits of the NLW, it has created a "squeezed" remuneration scale - meaning supervisors/shift leaders/lower level management are on not much more than a GA!!

The skills payment for Shift Leaders etc has not changed in 5 years. I challenged the USDAW national lead on this, who said there was no demand for it to rise! Guess they didn't ask anyone who is paid it ...

Well the problem there is if new shift leaders are coming on line and accepting the role at that pay rate then technically there is no market demand to have it higher. Now if going forward they rely more and more on them to take on extra responsibility as they get rid of more managers then the market competition will decide if they should get more.