https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/coronavirus-outbreak-tesco-wishaw-after-22642492 (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/coronavirus-outbreak-tesco-wishaw-after-22642492)
QuoteBosses at the store on Belhaven Road would not confirm how many employees had been struck down with the virus, describing it only as a 'small number'.
Secret squirrel 007.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8697431/Multiple-Tesco-workers-infected-coronavirus-vast-distribution-centre.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8697431/Multiple-Tesco-workers-infected-coronavirus-vast-distribution-centre.html)
Quote'Multiple' Tesco workers are infected with coronavirus at vast distribution centre where 1,800 staff supply 318 stores
'Multiple' that's a good word.
https://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/people/tesco-responds-reports-eastbourne-staff-member-has-covid-19-2946838 (https://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/people/tesco-responds-reports-eastbourne-staff-member-has-covid-19-2946838)
QuoteWhen approached by this newspaper, the supermarket chain did not deny reports a worker at the Lottbridge Drove branch had tested positive for coronavirus.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/worried-tesco-customer-demands-answers-4421165 (https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/worried-tesco-customer-demands-answers-4421165)
QuoteEarlier this month Tesco revealed one of its employees at the Meir Park branch had been diagnosed with Covid-19 in July.
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/tesco/swindon-tesco-extra-hit-by-coronavirus-outbreak-among-staff/647278.article (https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/tesco/swindon-tesco-extra-hit-by-coronavirus-outbreak-among-staff/647278.article)
QuoteA Tesco Extra in Swindon has suffered a coronavirus outbreak among staff.
Tesco confirmed there had been a small number of confirmed coronavirus cases at the supermarket.
"small number" as a description is no help at all.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/covid-case-confirmed-second-tesco-18736685 (https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/covid-case-confirmed-second-tesco-18736685)
QuoteA member of staff at a second Tesco store in Coventry has tested positive for coronavirus.
second :o
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/staff-tesco-store-coventry-test-18714809 (https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/staff-tesco-store-coventry-test-18714809)
QuoteThe number of staff to have tested positive for Covid-19 is unknown and the store remains open as normal.
unknown or not divulged 8-)
Not sure what you're getting at. Are you wanting places to close if one person has Covid?
No.
Quote from: grim up north on 08-09-20, 02:40PM
Not sure what you're getting at. Are you wanting places to close if one person has Covid?
He's highlighting Tescos lack of enforcement of coronavirus policies, the amount of times duty managers says to come in if you're not sick but you're living with someone who has it is ridiculous and should be taken more seriously by law enforcers.
Where I work I personally know of Covid cases. I also know that my place of work will never close. We are keeping the country fed. Can you imagine what would happen if all supermarkets close?
It would be run by the army, who might actually take the corona virus seriously, and not by managers who are going against tesco policy. so its a win win
There's plenty of shops available to keep the country fed if a crown court can close for one suspected case why are we as shop workers not even important enough to limit the custom in store or control them and enforce hygiene this company and its union are an absolute disgrace
https://www.armaghi.com/news/portadown-news/concerns-raised-as-staff-at-tesco-store-learn-of-colleagues-covid-case-over-whatsapp/116708 (https://www.armaghi.com/news/portadown-news/concerns-raised-as-staff-at-tesco-store-learn-of-colleagues-covid-case-over-whatsapp/116708)
QuoteIn an internal WhatsApp message, senior store staff informed workers last Wednesday “to try and keep things as calm as possible as we still have a business to runâ€.
The member of staff returned a positive test result at the start of last week.
Armagh I understands that the staff member works on the main floor in the grocery department.
The information and the identity of the confirmed case was not relayed to shop workers “due to GDPR†and “in keeping with confidentiallyâ€, according to the message sent via WhatsApp.
Surely this can't be allowed :question:
While the identity of the individual should indeed be kept confidential by management, their colleagues do need to be informed they have been exposed to risk and asked to isolate. That the circumstances mean that who it is can easily be worked out is neither here not there.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tesco-confirm-positive-coronavirus-case-18963086 (https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tesco-confirm-positive-coronavirus-case-18963086)
QuoteA positive Covid-19 case was confirmed in the supermarket's Prescot Extra store, a spokeswoman said.
The case was confirmed two weeks ago, the store said, and "extensive measures" have been put in place across all of its branches to try and curb the spread of the deadly virus.
"extensive measures" another statement that conveys no useful information.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/tesco-hanley-coronavirus-covid-19-4528531 (https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/tesco-hanley-coronavirus-covid-19-4528531)
Quote"We have extensive measures across all our stores to help keep everyone safe, including protective screens at every checkout, social distancing signs and regular deep cleaning.â€
"extensive measures" must be Septembers 'in' thing.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-tesco-staff-positive-18962468 (https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/coronavirus-ireland-tesco-staff-positive-18962468)
QuoteA spokesperson said: "The safety of our colleagues and customers is our number one priority. We can confirm that a small number of our colleagues have tested positive for Covid-19."
No, gone back to 'a small number'. :)
If extensive deep cleaning is happening it must be the Cornish pixies doing it.Standard press release drivel.Love the non existent trust no one has for this company anymore.
In my store a member of staff has been tested positive for Covid 19. No staff have officially been told, especially their colleagues on the department they work on. To my knowledge the local press do not know. I am confused by the response of management who are more concerned about “the needs of the business “ than the health of their staff, or even their own health.
Yeah my store has/had confirmed Covid cases, absolutely nothing changed in store, no Deep cleaning has been done(out with the normal cleaning by cleaners in morning) if their saying after a covid case in stores their doing deep cleans then their lying out of there arses.
Along the similar lines that they always stated ( prior Covid) that their trolleys were deep cleaned on a regular basis...over 20 years never saw it happen once :-X
there was a case in our store earlier in the year. it wasn't handled overly well. they did however have some cleaning done in the area that they had worked but it was days days after the last shift. I think due to privacy laws or policies they are not forced to tell everyone....ours did though. on a general point we took on extra people to clean....I am yet to see anyone cleaning the staff canteen at any point though all of this.
If a member of your family group tests positive for Covid rest of group have to isolate, good practice.
A member of your team in work tests positive for Covid rest of team still goes into work, wtf.
It is about time media got into this dangerous 'abnormality'.
I don't really understand how stores that are 24 hour are still closing at 10 to fill in the night but stores with twighlight ok close at 10 maybe but your filling with a store full of people...just seems wrong to me
So when.do you suggest you fill the store .do you want them also to fill during the.night .And would those working twilight agree to move to nights ?
I think at least some thought or an option would be nice wouldn't it? a lot at our store wanted to at least start later so they were working around less people.it wasn't even considered mainly as no manager wanted to work till 2-3 in the morning
would it just be that the Managers did not want to work till 2 or 3 ? or could it be that they are not able to ? it just could be they got told no by head office or that the extra cost in pay for nights would kick in , transport for some could also have been a problem ,,
Any other pickers notice orders come in with the massive party food/drinks orders I’m guessing that loads of people are having parties or a s*** ton of people took up heavy heavy drinking, and eating of party food snacks?
We're pretty sure a few people have tested positive on our night shift. Managers aren't telling us anything. They won't confirm or deny and even threatened to write someone up for being persistent in asking. I'm trying to find policies or law requirements when it comes to a potential outbreak among people I work with. We shouldn't have to be afraid when going to work.
If anyone knows what's meant to happen in this situation please let me know.
If those you suspect have tested positive are not in work (isolating) are you through contacts like friends/family etc able to get confirmation of their positivity, if yes you and others you work with can stir up a hornets nest and rightly so.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/tesco-worker-coronavirus-case-goole-4574295 (https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/tesco-worker-coronavirus-case-goole-4574295)
QuoteThe worker, whose role at the store has not yet been made public, is self-isolating at home after the case was confirmed.
official secrets act ! ?
QuoteThe staff member works at the Boothferry Road store in Goole but has been told to stay away until their 14-day quarantine period is up.
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/more-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-4678750 (https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/more-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-4678750)
QuoteStokeonTrentLive has been told nine staff have already tested positive for Covid-19 and at least 17 more workers were waiting for their results.
A Tesco spokesman has today refused to be drawn on how many coronavirus-hit staff are actually off work at the Hanley store.
Sounds bad and maybe getting worse. Company still playing secret squirrel on numbers.
Looks like the clock machine may have the corona virus.
My old Town, i worked there. Not looking good.
https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/tesco-defends-policy-on-vulnerable-workers-after-coronavirus-cases-9129067/ (https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/tesco-defends-policy-on-vulnerable-workers-after-coronavirus-cases-9129067/)
QuoteThey said staff were told to go into work even though they were vulnerable to coronavirus.
One man said his partner is still having chemotherapy for her breast cancer having been diagnosed in June 2019, but was made to work and subsequently tested positive for coronavirus last week.
This is an example of why judges need to be given company liquidating powers, putting peoples lives at risk like this can be remedied by a judge fining Tesco £100 million per instance of not safeguarding their people.
That makes me so f****ng angry, that they would do that to someone who is getting chemotherapy. i would destroy that manager if they did that to my wife
i think when we start work we should scan into the nhs qr code seen on some shops so they can inform staff when someone has the virus , a person clocking in is no good to identify staff in dept at same time of infected person as you have to rely on MM to do the right thing.
I scan the qr code everyday I'm at work
Non of the Express stores in my Area London have the scan thing on the doors , Yet other small shops have them ,, wonder why ,,,,,,, ???
https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/tesco-confirms-coronavirus-outbreak-royston-4717342 (https://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/news/hertfordshire-news/tesco-confirms-coronavirus-outbreak-royston-4717342)
QuoteOne employee told HertsLive they had only been informed of the positive tests by colleagues, rather than management.
If true, not good enough >:(
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/staff-tesco-extra-store-self-19322571 (https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/staff-tesco-extra-store-self-19322571)
QuoteThe number of staff has not been revealed, but Tesco said it was a 'small number'
50 is a small number.
It is if you are playing cricket. It is a large number if you are playing rugby and a huge number if you are playing football.
There is only one small number and that is one, one should know that shouldn't one. :P
4 people have covid in my store and about 10 isolating. However this wasn't mentioned by a manager at all, only other colleagues. It's like they don't want people to know. The track and trace seems a bit of a joke, at least another half a dozen people spent time with 2 of them and they weren't asked to isolate or even told.
This is what happens when they continue to do team fills when they could quite easily have everyone working themselves. With sky high infection rates by asking us to clock in/out and do team fills they are potentially compromising the full shift. Facing up should be kept to a minimum too. Do we really need to have every bit of bog paper aligned when the chances are the customer will be buying it soon anyway as the only one left? Do we really have to fill a shelf when you can dump a pallet freeing up time to fill another aisle?...
By law, should stores not be advising staff when colleagues and/or management have tested positive for Covid in order that self-isolation can take place in accordance with government guidelines. I don't know anyone has been officially informed although it is common knowledge that there are a number of positive cases amon
g GA's and Managers
PC7> Should or should not?
Did you make a typo?
If stores don't advise staff, then who does?
Correct Barafear should read stores should be informing colleagues of positive cases
Problem now is that it is impossible to know the truth unless someone leaks something.
I heard of a store where it was rumoured the store manager was having a month off to have some "elective surgery" -
then the story changed to "the manager had Covid"
If that is the case, then surely all the close contacts the manager had prior to their positive test should have been isolating at home? (i.e. most of the senior management team)
in which case, who ran the store in the absence?
The store DM and other managers taking in turn - i.e. seemingly no-one self isolated.
So maybe the story about Covid wasn't true?
But that's what happens isn't it?
We have a board in our store about "how many injuries there were in store in the last 12 months (staff/customers)" - how about a Covid board?
Even if stories are leaked they will probably be denied, as the stores couldn't afford to have the number of people who would have been in close contact with the infected person, self-isolating for 14 days, irrespective of the possible health implications which could ensue.
Just found out over the last few days that the reason Managers can't tell you who has the Virus or who is isolating due to coming into contact with someone that has it.
It's because, GDPR stands for General Data Protection Regulation. It is a European Union law and replaces the Data Protection Directive.
Only saying this since I think someone was talking about being told who had or has it, That's not to say that staff should not be told without naming the person(s).
I only found out due to talking to a school that had to send a class home and also the teachers in that class, and a factory that had the same problem.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6463678/coronavirus-tesco-dundee-kinsgway-retail-park/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6463678/coronavirus-tesco-dundee-kinsgway-retail-park/)
QuoteAn employee at the store revealed that 10 staff members had tested positive and 44 have been forced to self-isolate.
Tesco has confirmed the outbreak, but has not revealed the numbers involved.
If you've been to this store I would recommend a test. If you're thinking of going to this store perhaps second thoughts are in order.
Quote from: notsofunny on 02-12-20, 05:42PM
Just found out over the last few days that the reason Managers can't tell you who has the Virus or who is isolating due to coming into contact with someone that has it.
It's because, GDPR stands for General Data Protection Regulation. It is a European Union law and replaces the Data Protection Directive.
Only saying this since I think someone was talking about being told who had or has it, That's not to say that staff should not be told without naming the person(s).
I only found out due to talking to a school that had to send a class home and also the teachers in that class, and a factory that had the same problem.
There are exceptions to the GDPR, one of which is when it concerns public health. "To secure workers health, safety and welfare or to protect others against health and safety risks in connection with (or arising from) someone at work".
Our store has so many people off with COVID. All being kept quiet of course.
is there any policy about the track and trace app? Loads of people at my store have been getting alerts to self isolate. We have now been told to switch it off when working on a checkout. I get we are behind screens. Just seems very wrong to me
The app wont pickup people just walking passed a checkout, has to be in close distance for a set time period.
Quote from: matt62775 on 31-12-20, 06:56PM
is there any policy about the track and trace app? Loads of people at my store have been getting alerts to self isolate. We have now been told to switch it off when working on a checkout. I get we are behind screens. Just seems very wrong to me
Ask for the in writing
Quote from: helpme on 30-12-20, 01:03PM
Quote from: notsofunny on 02-12-20, 05:42PM
Just found out over the last few days that the reason Managers can't tell you who has the Virus or who is isolating due to coming into contact with someone that has it.
It's because, GDPR stands for General Data Protection Regulation. It is a European Union law and replaces the Data Protection Directive.
Only saying this since I think someone was talking about being told who had or has it, That's not to say that staff should not be told without naming the person(s).
I only found out due to talking to a school that had to send a class home and also the teachers in that class, and a factory that had the same problem.
There are exceptions to the GDPR, one of which is when it concerns public health. "To secure workers health, safety and welfare or to protect others against health and safety risks in connection with (or arising from) someone at work".
I cant find any notes showing that staff have to be told the name of the person or persons that are infected ,nor can I find that the person that has been infected can have his /her rights overruled and his/her information can be given out without concent giving consent ,
I would find it very strange and alarming that a team leader /step up /depatment head or even a manager had power to give out any such information ,
And if a School has been told they cant give out the details which gets its instructions from the Government legal department then Tesco would be in line with them and other companys ,,,,, thats my take on it
2.22 Many of my team have the Track and Trace App on their mobile phones â€" do they need to keep it switched on when they are working?
If a colleague has their phone with them on the shop-floor, they can leave the App on.
If a colleague leaves their phone in their locker, they should turn the App off until they start carrying their phone on their person.
If a colleague is working behind a screen, for example, on a checkout, the Customer Service Desk, Pharmacy Counter, PFS, they should switch the App off.
They should not turn it off at all within work while carrying it. Your on tills, and a hypothetical customer has Covid, screen is great till you scan the products that the infected customer has touched. Don’t let anyone tell you, that you should turn your app off
And before you say the government said if your behind a plexiglass you should turn off the app, they have, but it was advice for medical staff who have medical grade ppe and proper controlled conditions not some flimsy plexiglass in Tesco that has so many ways for the virus to get round
The plexiglass screens might protect us from customers but not against the other members of staff crammed behind the customer service desk and pharmacy where there is no hope of social distancing, at least in my store. Keep it switched on
I can understand the justification about not being told who was the identified source of a possible infection. What I do not understand is why the NHS app does not tell you *where* it was that you have were exposed to the point of being notified to self-isolate.
I have the app and is on all the time , I had a alert to stay off 10 days and isolate due to being in close contact with someone testing positive,I was told by personal manger oh it's just a possible may have and come to work ...I replied I trust the app more than you. Next day I went for test and results was I was positive for covid. I'd have been in work next day as I was unaware I had it. They just want you in work they don't care about you or family's so keep it on at all times ....working in express behind tills 4 staff in a tiny space walking past all time to collect cigs and drink . No social distancing .
https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/coronavirus-outbreak-confirmed-amongst-ashford-4853728 (https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/coronavirus-outbreak-confirmed-amongst-ashford-4853728)
QuoteA Tesco spokesperson said they were working closely with local public health authorities.
He said: “A number of colleagues at our Ashford Crooksfoot Extra store have tested positive for COVID-19 in recent days and we are monitoring this closely in line with local increased transmission rates.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/covid-contact-tracing-underway-maryhill-19568256 (https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/covid-contact-tracing-underway-maryhill-19568256)
QuoteTesco bosses confirmed that a "small number" of staff had tested positive for the virus.
Chickens and roost come to mind 8-)
Still get "a number" or "small number" and we've no idea what those phrases mean in actual numbers.
https://www.northern-scot.co.uk/news/staff-at-tesco-in-elgin-test-positive-for-coronavirus-223761/ (https://www.northern-scot.co.uk/news/staff-at-tesco-in-elgin-test-positive-for-coronavirus-223761/)
QuoteA Tesco spokesperson said: “A very small number of colleagues at our Elgin Extra store have tested positive for covid-19.
A "number" or "small number" may have been alarmist so they've gone to "very small number" 8-)
What's next a "microscopic number" :)
lol store not far way.... has a lot of people off
Just read that article about elgin "regular cleaning" thats a f****ng lie, there is no extra cleaning being down as i spoke to someone in that store and mine hasn't does any cleaning "out with normal cleaners job) in months
I thought It was just Express and Metro formats that done away with cleaners, as far as I'm aware Superstore formats still have theirs.
They do still have them! but tesco are trying to imply that they are doing extra cleaning for covid. All they are doing is normal cleaning in morning and 1 cleaner in rest of day who does spillages/customer toilets and bins. First month or so they had staff out cleaning everything, i mean f*** me trollies haven't been cleaned in months
We have someone about 6-8hrs a day collects and cleans our trollies.
I was asked this week if I would like to do an overtime shift at an adjacent store as a dot com driver. Something I have done several times in the past but really got knocked on the head when the company had to rejig drivers shifts to make them properly WTD compliant a year or two back.
My instinctive answer was definitely not as I was not familiar with how well that store was doing on observing Covid safety guideline but I am familiar with the area it covers some of which I would consider much higher risk than what my store covers. On top of which *why* were they needing drivers from outside their own store? Smelled distinctly whiffy. :(
Quote from: Welshie on 07-01-21, 05:27PM
We have someone about 6-8hrs a day collects and cleans our trollies.
Wtf so it seems my store just gave up 6 months ago then
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tesco-extra-superstore-hit-covid-23281828 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tesco-extra-superstore-hit-covid-23281828)
QuoteRetail giant Tesco has confirmed a coronavirus outbreak at a Tesco Extra superstore in Cardiff despite 'protective screens at every checkout, social distancing signage and regular cleaning'
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/kilmarnock-tesco-staff-test-positive-23283439 (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/kilmarnock-tesco-staff-test-positive-23283439)
QuoteThe document, leaked to the Kilmarnock Standard reads: "We have four colleagues in self isolation at the moment and we have received conformation that four colleagues from this store has [sic] tested positive for COVID-19 (coronavirus). I would ask you to keep this information confidential at this stage â€" it is very important.
Hush hush 8-)
Quote from: dotnochance on 07-01-21, 09:23PM
Quote from: Welshie on 07-01-21, 05:27PM
We have someone about 6-8hrs a day collects and cleans our trollies.
Wtf so it seems my store just gave up 6 months ago then
Yea most of the stores got rid of trolly cleaning are the covid temps had left. My understanding is most stores when grossly over hours. The store I was in along with the 'sister' stores were letting people come and go as they wanted for overtime.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesco-staff-absent-jobs-hiring-temporary-workers-115833909.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesco-staff-absent-jobs-hiring-temporary-workers-115833909.html)
QuoteAround 30,000 Tesco (TSCO.L) staff are currently off work, with absences on the rise as staff fall ill, self-isolate or shield at home.
Britain’s biggest supermarket’s chief executive Ken Murphy said on Thursday it had “clearly seen a spike†in absences in recent weeks.
Approximately one in 10 staff is now off, according to Murphy, with absence rates “materially higher†than during its second and third quarters.
30,000 good job it's only a very small number 8-)
(don't bother telling me the percentages, I can do maths :) )
I wonder how many are genuine?
I would say most if not all, since Tesco brought in a new rule, if u say your off with Covid or shielding then you have to give them the number or code u get from nhs tracing to be paid
I'm currently off isolating now because the app told me to, it's been a long, extremely boring week ! All because a few of our staff in the last month thought it was perfectly fine to regularly all meet up in a team leaders house to get drunk, have curry nights etc.
3 of that group are off, 2 positive, 1 isolating and me, who worked with 2 of them. Will anything be done about them ? Nope, nothing can be proved, even though the whole store knows they were meeting up. It's had a massive impact on a small express this week.
My app pinged up Monday on shift that I needed to self isolate, I left immediately, went home and filled in the NHS form to forward to my sm
I've heard you can make the app 'ping' when you want. There are many staff(and managers) who have had 5 or more periods of 'isolating' where I work. One of the younger ones admits only once has it been a genuine ping
Wait what, their talking BS, there is no way they can get it to ping with an reference number on the isolation note to get paid, they prob got a real ping and are just being, dicks
You can. You'll just have to believe it can be done. I'll pm you how if you like. And also some(managers) get paid regardless, and others might not care if they are paid or not. Just 4-10 days not at work
Quote from: Halftone84 on 16-01-21, 03:14PM
I'm currently off isolating now because the app told me to, it's been a long, extremely boring week ! All because a few of our staff in the last month thought it was perfectly fine to regularly all meet up in a team leaders house to get drunk, have curry nights etc.
3 of that group are off, 2 positive, 1 isolating and me, who worked with 2 of them. Will anything be done about them ? Nope, nothing can be proved, even though the whole store knows they were meeting up. It's had a massive impact on a small express this week.
My app pinged up Monday on shift that I needed to self isolate, I left immediately, went home and filled in the NHS form to forward to my sm
I rules have been broken and it can be proved an investigation can be held. It's all a matter of being about to prove and if goes to disciplinary and found rules have been broken the sick pay can be reclaimed. It is not being done lightly and they have to have a really good case but it has been done. I'm told of two cases in my group but they can't double discipline so claiming back the sick pay means that it is the end of the matter. I have not heard of other outcomes but as I said I have only heard of two cases in my group. We don't have to prove to the level of a court, we only have to prove probability.
The police are taking more seriously now though. I read online that a student was issued with a 10,000.00 for hosting a party for 100 people. Personal fines have gone up and are being issued more.
Sad news yesterday Tesco stretford store had to close for some time as one person as died and large out break of COVID 19
Shoppers report being 'turned away' from Tesco Extra store at centre of Covid-19 outbreak
Quote from: Redshoes on 17-01-21, 09:47AM
Quote from: Halftone84 on 16-01-21, 03:14PM
I'm currently off isolating now because the app told me to, it's been a long, extremely boring week ! All because a few of our staff in the last month thought it was perfectly fine to regularly all meet up in a team leaders house to get drunk, have curry nights etc.
3 of that group are off, 2 positive, 1 isolating and me, who worked with 2 of them. Will anything be done about them ? Nope, nothing can be proved, even though the whole store knows they were meeting up. It's had a massive impact on a small express this week.
My app pinged up Monday on shift that I needed to self isolate, I left immediately, went home and filled in the NHS form to forward to my sm
I rules have been broken and it can be proved an investigation can be held. It's all a matter of being about to prove and if goes to disciplinary and found rules have been broken the sick pay can be reclaimed. It is not being done lightly and they have to have a really good case but it has been done. I'm told of two cases in my group but they can't double discipline so claiming back the sick pay means that it is the end of the matter. I have not heard of other outcomes but as I said I have only heard of two cases in my group. We don't have to prove to the level of a court, we only have to prove probability.
The police are taking more seriously now though. I read online that a student was issued with a 10,000.00 for hosting a party for 100 people. Personal fines have gone up and are being issued more.
As they weren't at work or clocked in and at a private residence there is nothing management can do apart from passing on to the police if they believe a CRIMINAL act has been committed.
Quote from: dotnochance on 16-01-21, 03:10PM
I would say most if not all, since Tesco brought in a new rule, if u say your off with Covid or shielding then you have to give them the number or code u get from nhs tracing to be paid
The new rule does nothing to stop fake sickness isolation. All you need to do is go online and request isolation note
Surely you need a contact tracing number to get the note?
What is this number? I've been t&t. All I had to do was show the screenshot of my isolation days. I only had to get a test if i showed symptoms(i didn't so no test).
Quote from: dotnochance on 18-01-21, 02:55PM
Surely you need a contact tracing number to get the note?
Not that I remember, just your details. It does then tell you there's a site than someone can use to verify the note, so maybe it's checked against test and trace records ?
But if you phone pings they don’t even know who you are. There no ways to check. Who you are. My store has had another out break. But haven’t sent anyone extra home when the store know that staff had been near the person that tested positive
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13761495/tesco-workers-petrified-after-amazing-manager-dies/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13761495/tesco-workers-petrified-after-amazing-manager-dies/)
QuoteTESCO workers have been left feeling petrified after their 'amazing' manager died during a Covid outbreak.
Some 50 staff working at the store in Stretford, Greater Manchester, are now ill or isolating, while the rest must test negative before they return to work.
Quote from: Himynameus on 31-12-20, 10:34PM
2.22 Many of my team have the Track and Trace App on their mobile phones â€" do they need to keep it switched on when they are working?
If a colleague has their phone with them on the shop-floor, they can leave the App on.
If a colleague leaves their phone in their locker, they should turn the App off until they start carrying their phone on their person.
If a colleague is working behind a screen, for example, on a checkout, the Customer Service Desk, Pharmacy Counter, PFS, they should switch the App off.
I’ve heard this too. As far as I’m concerned, as long as this pandemic continues, whilst I’m at work - whether I’m behind a screen or not - my phone stays with me, and that app stays on... and if anyone tries to insist otherwise, I go to the union about the matter. I’m not going to risk compromising my health or the health of those I may come into contact with just because Tesco think I should do otherwise.
Terribly sad. Words fail me, seriously they do. Tesco don't give 2 flying shites as long as the profits keep rolling in.
Any Tesco worker NOT feeling terrified at the minute, is either fully vaccinated, or a complete idiot. We're all sitting ducks, THEY know it, WE know it, but we still need to keep a roof over our heads. And they know it. And how they exploit it.
https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-midsomer-nortons-4902463 (https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-midsomer-nortons-4902463)
QuoteA 'small number' of staff members at Midsomer Norton's Tesco have tested positive for coronavirus.
Close contacts of colleagues with Covid are now isolating after the infections were confirmed at the superstore, on Old Mills, Paulton.
Quote from: B.O.B on 18-01-21, 10:58PM
Quote from: Himynameus on 31-12-20, 10:34PM
2.22 Many of my team have the Track and Trace App on their mobile phones â€" do they need to keep it switched on when they are working?
If a colleague has their phone with them on the shop-floor, they can leave the App on.
If a colleague leaves their phone in their locker, they should turn the App off until they start carrying their phone on their person.
If a colleague is working behind a screen, for example, on a checkout, the Customer Service Desk, Pharmacy Counter, PFS, they should switch the App off.
I’ve heard this too. As far as I’m concerned, as long as this pandemic continues, whilst I’m at work - whether I’m behind a screen or not - my phone stays with me, and that app stays on... and if anyone tries to insist otherwise, I go to the union about the matter. I’m not going to risk compromising my health or the health of those I may come into contact with just because Tesco think I should do otherwise.
The whole reason I WONT be disabling the app behind the till screens, is because the only person I'd been in contact with for so long that tested positive is another member of staff ... Who can be stood behind the tills with me ! I've said all along it's pointless having screens between tills when paypoint is behind 1 till, cigarettes are behind another till, and lottery is in the middle of them all ...
Can you believe Tesco you should read some of there questions and answer on covid.
Of course people might need to be off more than once they are almost trying to push people into going to work
3.3f I have some colleagues who are off with COVID symptoms on multiple occasions what can I do?
We should encourage the colleague to be tested as soon as possible each time they develop any
symptoms, as this may enable them to return to work sooner.
Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Q&A, Version 14.4, Page 20 of 50 â€"12th January 2021
When the colleague returns to work, we should have a have a conversation to remind them of the safe
distancing measures they should be following, both during their work hours and the time outside of
work and check they have completed the ‘Keeping colleagues safe’ e-learning. This may be an informal
conversation using the let’s talk form, or a documented and noted formal conversation.
Where it becomes clear that a colleague is not following the government guidelines, or the safe
distancing measures either inside or outside of work, it would be appropriate to investigate the matter
in line with our misconduct policy. It is not acceptable for colleagues to break the government
guidelines outside of their working hours, as by doing this they could be putting their fellow colleagues
at risk when they are in the workplace.
Quote from: Himynameus on 20-01-21, 09:20AM
Where it becomes clear that a colleague is not following the government guidelines, or the safe
distancing measures either inside or outside of work, it would be appropriate to investigate the matter
in line with our misconduct policy. It is not acceptable for colleagues to break the government
guidelines outside of their working hours, as by doing this they could be putting their fellow colleagues
at risk when they are in the workplace.
So when did Tesco assume the authority to investigate and discipline you for when you are outside the work place? It would be interesting to see how they would be able to get evidence against you and from whom. It's a pity they aren't so worried about their delivery drivers!
Think it still states in the terms and conditions that your actions outside of work can end up having consequences, for example if your arrested and known for working at Tesco, your a tesco worker not a customer... And the behaviour isn't acceptable if its for things like fights etc... Same for the social media policy, you agree that you accept that once you start working for the company y you have to be careful what you say online and if you do say something it has to categorically state that it's your words and not that of tesco's or anything to do with them influencing you in those words etc... Hence the need to remain anonymous to talk about the company at times 😂
You can't say things like "omg I effing hate this company, stupid customers" - that's misconduct
You can however say "had a bit of a rough day today, got me a bit upset but tomorrow is another day" or some c**p 😂
Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 20-01-21, 12:40PM
Think it still states in the terms and conditions that your actions outside of work can end up having consequences
Employees' activities outside work - including those resulting in criminal offences - are not grounds for dismissal unless they affect employees' ability to do their job, which could be because they affect relations with their colleagues, suppliers or customers or bring the business into disrepute.
And who would they get evidence from? Your family and friends or go on hearsay which would be interesting to see them justify at an employment court.
Libel. slander, disrepute etc out of work is a very complicated matter involving who, when,where and much more.
However,
[admin]Employees' activities outside work, if you wish to continue debating this point please start a new thread, possibly in 'All Departments'.[/admin]
Quote from: helpme on 20-01-21, 10:59AM
Quote from: Himynameus on 20-01-21, 09:20AM
Where it becomes clear that a colleague is not following the government guidelines, or the safe
distancing measures either inside or outside of work, it would be appropriate to investigate the matter
in line with our misconduct policy. It is not acceptable for colleagues to break the government
guidelines outside of their working hours, as by doing this they could be putting their fellow colleagues
at risk when they are in the workplace.
So when did Tesco assume the authority to investigate and discipline you for when you are outside the work place? It would be interesting to see how they would be able to get evidence against you and from whom. It's a pity they aren't so worried about their delivery drivers!
If an employee has pictures on social media attending a party then expects Tesco to pay them if they have to isolate , I think that would be worth investigating. Did they come to work in days after party and put colleagues at risk . It does state 'breaking government guidelines ' so I do think this is only in relation to covid and isolation pay and not about getting arrested or other random things .
How about this for an idea, tesco actually start applying the government guidelines to the customers instead of using them to harras the staff most of whom are barely hanging onto their sanity as it is. Tesco could actually enforce the one person per shop instead of 4or5 we often get, they could enforce the mask wearing, and politely ask people to shop as quickly as possible not stand around together chatting and maybe even remind people we are offering an essential service so if your visit is just for a newspaper and scratchcard please don't attend. They could also ask not to touch what your not buying and god forbid insist no trying clothes on (it makes no difference just closing changing rooms they still keep trying stuff on).
Maybe they could also invest some of their huge profits to pay for staff to help apply these guidelines (my store would have several suitable volunteers) instead of cutting off most of the overtime so we barely have time to fill....or am I just being stupid and expecting the impossible
For Tesco to enforce they need the legal remit to do do, the government hasn't given shop floor workers extrajudicial powers so they can only ask.
Quote from: Welshie on 20-01-21, 05:02PM
Quote from: helpme on 20-01-21, 10:59AM
Quote from: Himynameus on 20-01-21, 09:20AM
Where it becomes clear that a colleague is not following the government guidelines, or the safe
distancing measures either inside or outside of work, it would be appropriate to investigate the matter
in line with our misconduct policy. It is not acceptable for colleagues to break the government
guidelines outside of their working hours, as by doing this they could be putting their fellow colleagues
at risk when they are in the workplace.
So when did Tesco assume the authority to investigate and discipline you for when you are outside the work place? It would be interesting to see how they would be able to get evidence against you and from whom. It's a pity they aren't so worried about their delivery drivers!
If an employee has pictures on social media attending a party then expects Tesco to pay them if they have to isolate , I think that would be worth investigating. Did they come to work in days after party and put colleagues at risk . It does state 'breaking government guidelines ' so I do think this is only in relation to covid and isolation pay and not about getting arrested or other random things .
That is reasonable but how would they investigate breaking Covid measures without proof or other things?
Invite family members in for statements?
Has anything been said or done by the unions? I started at Tesco as a Christmas temp now permanent on nights. People on days and nights all different departments keep going off sick and we are not being notified if we have been in contact with someone with corona. I know they should t name them but I am aware of more than 1 person now who has been off with corona and I've worked with them and they have said nothing. Our cleaner is now off and I see her most early mornings. She doesn't wear a mask and she's off with it. Luckily I protect myself best I can but I've had to stop my own childcare from my mum seeing the kids and helping look after them as it's just getting too risky. The place I also work in is also very dirty.the only place with daily cleaning is the tills.
It's all a matter of track and trace. They can't name people who have tested positive but they are asked questions and if they don't say that they have been in contact with people they won't be sent home. They are asked by NHS and by us. If they say they have not been in contact you have to trust what they say.
Make sure you have downloaded the covid app as in theory that should automatically detect close contact with anyone testing positive.
The app the best way really in my store they have stopped sending as many people home. Even people you know that have been working together. Most people are now going home via the nhs app and that seems to be sending a lot of people home
Hi,
I can’t work out how to post a new topic here, sorry, but I’m a journalist looking to speak to people about their experiences of working in a supermarket during the pandemic and how it’s affected their mental health. I’m particularly interested in talking to people with longterm mental health issues and how life has been over the past year. If you’re interested please let me know.
Thanks in advance
Yvette
Bet your inbox is full
This is an overview of an analysis of the risks of death amongst various sectors of the population by the ONS published today
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55795608
We’re pretty low down
Look again. The risk of death is increased by over 50% (for women, presumably men is similar). It is only listing the top of the league tables.
Quote from: NightAndDay on 20-01-21, 11:07PM
For Tesco to enforce they need the legal remit to do do, the government hasn't given shop floor workers extrajudicial powers so they can only ask.
No private company needs a central or local governments legal remit to enforce any health and safety protection issue and they are in fact being extremely negligent by not enforcing fully the government guidelines for all areas of the workplace not just public areas. As a private business they have a right to refuse entry for any or even no given reason and also to insist on certain behaviours for anyone on the premises. So the enforcement option is available to them and should be applied as workers and other business users have a right to be protected as the government guidelines state
Southend Tesco worker tests positive for coronavirus (https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/19035106.southend-tesco-worker-tests-positive-coronavirus/)
QuoteIt comes after rumours of seven cases at the Tesco shop in the Royals Shopping Centre in Southend, but bosses insist only one worker has the virus.
Early last week bosses at the supermarket chain also confirmed that a worker at the Kursaal store in the town also had tested positive for the virus.
Quote from: Munchkin on 25-01-21, 07:01PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 20-01-21, 11:07PM
For Tesco to enforce they need the legal remit to do do, the government hasn't given shop floor workers extrajudicial powers so they can only ask.
No private company needs a central or local governments legal remit to enforce any health and safety protection issue and they are in fact being extremely negligent by not enforcing fully the government guidelines for all areas of the workplace not just public areas. As a private business they have a right to refuse entry for any or even no given reason and also to insist on certain behaviours for anyone on the premises. So the enforcement option is available to them and should be applied as workers and other business users have a right to be protected as the government guidelines state
Still requires paperwork to bar someone and no, verbal barrings can't be enforced. They don't need legal remit to enforce health and safety that doesn't entwine with other laws. Shop workers can't arrest or stop anyone from breaking the law, only police officers can or people doing a citizens arrest. Rights to be protected under limitations of what is allowed by law and relevent powers.
All the government's covid safe guidelines are required to be applied by every business in their covid safe risk assessments which every business must have in place to operate, the risk assessment is a legally enforceable document and therefore you have you have the right to deny any entry to anyone and insist on certain rules being followed in stores a paper trail for barring entry to anyone to a private business/property is not necessary by law only by the law that tesco makes up for itself. In the case of not wearing a mask/ not social distsncing/ shopping in groups all these things are legally enforceable as they are contained in the covid safe risk assments a legally enforceable document
As I said Tesco has done the bare minimum. Why is tesco(supermarkets) been allowed to not even bother following government rules on Covid, and yet every single other business have been following the guidelines?
The latest episode of the More or Less podcast includes some interesting analysis of the statistics surrounding the role of supermarkets in spreading the infection. All is not as it seems:-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09565hd
This is one of the podcasts I think is worth listening to regularly which debunks the garbled messages we get from politicians and the general media when it comes to the statistics of all matters of public interest.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/glasgow-tesco-worker-dies-after-23392025 (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/glasgow-tesco-worker-dies-after-23392025)
QuoteA Tesco worker has died after a Covid-19 outbreak at a Glasgow shop.
A man, believed to have been in his early 60s, became infected with the virus at the Maryhill Tesco Extra branch.
Others staff members have now also tested positive for coronavirus.
Tesco insisted a "very small number" of workers at the supermarket caught the virus but staff told Glasgow Live as many 35 people had tested positive since the start of the year.
No good news Nomad
[admin]Not sure if you missed out a 't' or if that's a question. If it's the latter then the company spends millions of pounds promoting the 'good' news (in their opinion anyway), I'm happy to offer the alternative few for free. Isn't that nice of me :D . If the former then no it certainly is not, and my condolences to their family and friends.[/admin]
35 positive In one store , that is truly shocking. RIP to our deceased colleague
Recently we have had a run of 50+ members of staff being off with having an alert on the track and trace app. Many of those had tested positive from what I can gather. Following on from this, management were apparently appauled, making vague threats etc. A few days later we had regulations passed down to us from head office that they will no longer support paid isolation if workers do not answer questions about what they have been up to outside of work.
They also told us about the tightening of mask rules, stating staff will have to wear them properly at all times across the store.
Then, fast forward... Managers (inc seniors) are working with masks on their chin and chatting to staff with zero social distancing, one isn't even wearing a mask on the shop floor anymore. Night staff, no masks. A fair portion of staff are still wearing the masks under the nose and chin, including several staff members whom, on the first day back from having the illness, are informing everyone that will listen that "This isn't a joke, the effects are real"... Security aren't challenging anyone or asking people to put their masks on correctly, staff or otherwise. The only time they make any effort is the few times the police have been in store enforcing the rules.
To top all this off, I can't even go to the union rep as they are one of the worst examples of staff that refuse to wear the mask over the face properly.
Anyone got any info on how many Retail workers have sadly passed away with covid ? read some place that 20% have been Infected but nothing about deaths .. Always seem to see info on health workers but not on retail workers ,
Quote from: Oldyear on 08-02-21, 11:56AM
Recently we have had a run of 50+ members of staff being off with having an alert on the track and trace app. Many of those had tested positive from what I can gather. Following on from this, management were apparently appauled, making vague threats etc. A few days later we had regulations passed down to us from head office that they will no longer support paid isolation if workers do not answer questions about what they have been up to outside of work.
They also told us about the tightening of mask rules, stating staff will have to wear them properly at all times across the store.
Then, fast forward... Managers (inc seniors) are working with masks on their chin and chatting to staff with zero social distancing, one isn't even wearing a mask on the shop floor anymore. Night staff, no masks. A fair portion of staff are still wearing the masks under the nose and chin, including several staff members whom, on the first day back from having the illness, are informing everyone that will listen that "This isn't a joke, the effects are real"... Security aren't challenging anyone or asking people to put their masks on correctly, staff or otherwise. The only time they make any effort is the few times the police have been in store enforcing the rules.
To top all this off, I can't even go to the union rep as they are one of the worst examples of staff that refuse to wear the mask over the face properly.
Unfortunately customers can't be made to wear masks due to the provision in law that they can't be challenged if they state they have a medical exemption, companies however are allowed to implement policies to circumvent this provision for employees provided it is done so in a non-discriminatory way (wearing a lanyard and occupational health.)