job cuts?

[Davethebave]

As mentioned above, the issue is not the title change, it's how Tesco will go about achieving the "natural wastage". They will have something in the pipe work to ensure this happens sooner rather than later.

Are managers being given the chance to step down to shift leader with a pay out/ pay protection? Probably not

[Checkout Superstar]

As mentioned above, the issue is not the title change, it's how Tesco will go about achieving the "natural wastage". They will have something in the pipe work to ensure this happens sooner rather than later.

Are managers being given the chance to step down to shift leader with a pay out/ pay protection? Probably not

From the sounds of it the F&F manager in our Extra has been told the shift leader job is hers if she wants and yes its a pay cut.

But in terms of Fresh, Produce and Plant Bread I don't know. Are all 3 of those sections managers just going to become Shift Leaders too or is it just one Shift Leader overseeing all 3 of the Fresh areas?

Still so much they haven't explained which makes it  appear as though its not been thought through very well.

[Davethebave]

The F&F manager should be entitled to stay a manager if they wish to. However, they would be overseeing any area of the store, which they would potentially struggle with as F&F managers hardly ever change roles.

The situation for managers would be a lot better if the payout/pay protection applied to them as-well, as at some stage over the next few years they will become SL anyway

[forrestgimp]

As mentioned above, the issue is not the title change, it's how Tesco will go about achieving the "natural wastage". They will have something in the pipe work to ensure this happens sooner rather than later.

Are managers being given the chance to step down to shift leader with a pay out/ pay protection? Probably not

Do your job as contracted and you will be fine, if they try to performance manage you then make sure they are doing what they are supposed to in so far as enough staff, allowing the time to do your paperwork and not forcing you to do a multitude of jobs that are not yours but they tell you that you have to.

Remember to performance manage you they have to show they are doing their job with supporting you with yours by giving you the resources you need.

[Morris999]

As mentioned above, the issue is not the title change, it's how Tesco will go about achieving the "natural wastage". They will have something in the pipe work to ensure this happens sooner rather than later.

Are managers being given the chance to step down to shift leader with a pay out/ pay protection? Probably not

Yes they are, however once the consultation is over then that option will be taken away.
However not many managers are going to take that option, so will be sat in current positions for years, unless the new CEO decides to give them the option of redundancy in the next few years.
Remember this structure change would have been signed of by DDave first just like the 2015 structure change was signed off by Clarke.
Now don't get me wrong the new CEO would have been briefed about the upcoming changes however how indepth that would have been we will never know, and once the dust has settled he will probably change things like DDave did once he had settled in.

[newdawnrising]

The F&F manager should be entitled to stay a manager if they wish to. However, they would be overseeing any area of the store, which they would potentially struggle with as F&F managers hardly ever change roles.

The situation for managers would be a lot better if the payout/pay protection applied to them as-well, as at some stage over the next few years they will become SL anyway

There is to be an f&f shift leader role in the biggest f&f stores. This shift leader wouldn't look after the whole store or open and close, they would just be f&f experts. There is a separate f&f role pack for this.

[RhysGGood]

Are managers able to step down to a colleague role and receive a payout if they don't accept the new team manager role?

[penguin]

In previous restructures the answer to stepping down from manager to colleague role was it would be "voluntary" and therefore no payout.

[londoner83]

With regards to those looking for redundancy, I believe the company has been burnt in previous restructures from losing too much of their skill base (compliance, personnel, stock control and bakery restructures for example).

If redundancy was offered to all  managers many with years of experience would willingly quit, (costing millions)  which would despite what some colleagues think actually cause operational problems instore.

Looking ahead with developments like the till less Amazon store, increasing use of robots and drones in warehouses who knows what the future holds and whether Tesco's position will change. However when hundreds of managers freely quit every year and with development plans for new stores by moving people around the business they could well achieve the new targets at no cost to the business from paying out redundancy.

[sam]

Any update about GM manager ? my Gm/H&b department have 10 staff ,is my manager is going to be moved?

[NightAndDay]

With regards to those looking for redundancy, I believe the company has been burnt in previous restructures from losing too much of their skill base (compliance, personnel, stock control and bakery restructures for example).

If redundancy was offered to all  managers many with years of experience would willingly quit, (costing millions)  which would despite what some colleagues think actually cause operational problems instore.

Looking ahead with developments like the till less Amazon store, increasing use of robots and drones in warehouses who knows what the future holds and whether Tesco's position will change. However when hundreds of managers freely quit every year and with development plans for new stores by moving people around the business they could well achieve the new targets at no cost to the business from paying out redundancy.

They can afford millions, their budget for their head office functions is wasteful and bloated in comparison, it's always been a classist thing. Blue collar worker and semi-skilled managers get treated with more contempt and greater misplaced scrutiny than the white collar consultants and accountants in head office and it shows, especially with the disconnect between how the people up top think operations should happen on a shopfloor and the reality of it without ever stepping foot into one, all their ideas are from the Schemas they designed they only get fed back sales data and statistics, not the hum-drum complaints of the shop floor team.

[Suppord]

Our regional union leader has said for us to not accept team support but out or protective pay, anyone else heard this?

[whatajoke2019]

Any update about GM manager ? my Gm/H&b department have 10 staff ,is my manager is going to be moved?

These changes seem to be 'store specific' (if I've understood everything correctly) but I'd hazard a guess and say your manager is more likely to have a few more colleagues to look after besides Health & Beauty/General Merchandise, assuming they agree to the changes.

[5fdp]

Please try to understand that the new mgt structure is going to happen within the year. Mgrs are changed to the same job title so that in 6 months time it is easier to manage out the poor ones and keep the good ones. The company has learned that a blanket 'get rid of all'  clothing mgrs might mean your getting rid of the best mgrs etc etc. All mgrs will have a matrix of 6 headings and be graded on them. The lowest scores are the ones who will go. Redundancy will be given at this time or stepping down. Much will be made on the 'how' and not the 'what' in your periodic catch ups. Most mgrs fail on the 'how'.

[forrestgimp]

Not being funny mate but why are you saying that like its anything other than your opinion, These are people who have familys, mortgages and lives so spreading unsubstantiated rumors does nothing but cause stress.

[takethemoneyandrun]

Please try to understand that the new mgt structure is going to happen within the year. Mgrs are changed to the same job title so that in 6 months time it is easier to manage out the poor ones and keep the good ones. The company has learned that a blanket 'get rid of all'  clothing mgrs might mean your getting rid of the best mgrs etc etc. All mgrs will have a matrix of 6 headings and be graded on them. The lowest scores are the ones who will go. Redundancy will be given at this time or stepping down. Much will be made on the 'how' and not the 'what' in your periodic catch ups. Most mgrs fail on the 'how'.

"Manage out the poor ones"😂😂😂😂

[Albert]

Our regional union leader has said for us to not accept team support but out or protective pay, anyone else heard this?

Yes, Tesco wants us to agree "informally" so usdaw can't get involved.

[Suppord]

Who here is not agreeing to terms then? Three of us out of four are not, store manager making us decide which isn't professional at all.

[RhysGGood]

Is there any managers on here thinking about stepping down to a colleague role throughout this restructure?

[VladPutin]

With regards to those looking for redundancy, I believe the company has been burnt in previous restructures from losing too much of their skill base (compliance, personnel, stock control and bakery restructures for example).

If redundancy was offered to all  managers many with years of experience would willingly quit, (costing millions)  which would despite what some colleagues think actually cause operational problems instore.

Looking ahead with developments like the till less Amazon store, increasing use of robots and drones in warehouses who knows what the future holds and whether Tesco's position will change. However when hundreds of managers freely quit every year and with development plans for new stores by moving people around the business they could well achieve the new targets at no cost to the business from paying out redundancy.

They can afford millions, their budget for their head office functions is wasteful and bloated in comparison, it's always been a classist thing. Blue collar worker and semi-skilled managers get treated with more contempt and greater misplaced scrutiny than the white collar consultants and accountants in head office and it shows, especially with the disconnect between how the people up top think operations should happen on a shopfloor and the reality of it without ever stepping foot into one, all their ideas are from the Schemas they designed they only get fed back sales data and statistics, not the hum-drum complaints of the shop floor team.

Well said. Head office is the biggest collection of lazy, stupid, non-productive wastes of space you will find outside of Westminster itself. It would be wrong to label them worthless - they actually have negative worth: they make Tesco a worse place to work just by being a part of it.

However, just like Westminster, they are completely insulated and protected from the Real World. They will never face the consequences of their decisions.

[londoner83]

I thought most of head office were on short fixed term contracts - therefore it's fairly easy to let them go when the contract ends.

[Davethebave]

Did H/O not go through a mass layoff a few months ago?

[NightAndDay]

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[Rumblerumble]

Does anyone have the scoring criteria for what they look at when the decide who's job move to the new role and who has to step down?

[Redshoes]

I don't know the full criteria but I think you get extra points for being a first aider or union rep and you are marked down for any live warnings. You then need to be a good match for the hours, as in shift pattern. New roles require greater flexibility so someone who has huge restrictions as to when they can work will not be a good fit. Shift leaders need to perform duty shifts so they need to open and close the store. Not sure what is required of the service or dot.com shift leaders but as there will not be a huge head count I assume they will still take a part in this.
They are new job roles with new accountabilities. It's not doing the same job and just going to more money. In general terms there have been some team support that have not been doing the full role, I'm not saying you are one of them but a team support that has not done full job role might not be a good fit for shift leader.