Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/

[Rigger]

Maybe the warehouse staff should be paid the extra in Lego blocks or duplo.   Given that majority of cages look like an idiot built them...

There you go,  the conditions they have to work under are the cause of a lot of the badly stacked cages, are store staff issued with wrist held pda's which monitor how fast you are working & to what standard??

[Nomad]

How workers are managed/monitored has no bearing on the claim, neither is whether they are male or female.

However if one person picks up boxes and puts them in a cage and the next person takes them off a cage and puts them on a shelf then their work is of equal worth, in my opinion.

I wish the claim success.

[Rigger]

Course it does. The claimants should be shipped into their nearest DC for a week of work, the claim would be dropped by halfway through the 1st shift.

[blutopia]

All of us who work in stores could give chapter and verse about the countless badly stacked cages we receive (cases of block cheese squashing yogurts, needing to be an octopus to be able to catch everything falling off when the cage door is opened, etc.) but I think the stupidity is not realising and appreciating the pressures the depot staff work under.  I agree with belfast driver and Rigger that very few store colleagues would hack working in a depot and, therefore, the equal pay claim is unlikely to succeed.  I'm sad to say that and hope Nomad's argument can prevail.

[Charlie1991]

As a former pension employee this could have major implications on pensions, as all pensions were based on contractual salaries, if these are found to be underpaid then all pensions would need to be reviewed.

A massive task, especially as all the experienced staff has been made redundant.

YOU COULD BE UNDERPAID YOUR PENSION

[gomezz]

I think the main thing that would stop me wanting to work in a depot would the aggressive, macho atmosphere that seems to prevail.  Though my own personal experience of that is having to work alongside women in a factory.

[Charlie1991]

 

[Welsh-Hugh]

Gomez how is a warehouse a macho workplace? In my DC men And women happily work alongside each other.and work well together. DC's of today are equal to men and women.
Let's be honest we have a choice in life. I work in a DC as it guarantee me 37.5 hours a week. I also took the job understanding the pay on offer. I chose not to work in a store for various reasons. In DC's we are tracked all shift with arm mounted computers. Picking is hard. Yes store staff move boxes. In DC's staff can pick 24 pallets of potatoes or Mellon's in a shift. Vast difference.loading on MHE is very cold . Freezer is minus 21 and you can be in there a very long time. Pressure of pick rates and loading rates is immense. I have great respect for store staff but working in a DC is miles away from working in a store.

[redcar renegade]

I wonder what Usdaw have to say on this matter, surely it would make sense to union officals to have equality as they are always going on about. Does the partnership agreement  in effect validate Tesco policy so in effect making Usdaw an accessory in  this case.

[fargone]

These Women f**king kill me, they wouldn't last a week in a DC.

[toscozombie]

Reading this I fully understand that dc have a hard job. But my job on nights is as hard.
I have to then pull those cages and unload my stock onto the relevant cage for the area that I work in (fresh) in between clearing spillages of badly stacked items and sorting damages out ...I do realise staff in DC are pushed, but so are we ..years ago stock came in roughly for the area intended and we were allowed a presorter but this has been stopped so now we have no presorter cages are mixed worse than ever, so stock is handled 2/3 times before it ends up where it belongs ...on a good night I can pull out around 20 cages also picking off my stock in cold conditions and fill.
In my case I believe I should be paid the same as DC . I'm afraid we are all pushed to do the most they can get out of us now, man or woman ...especially DC and Nights . Days is a different way of working and before anyone slates me I have worked days too so feel I can comment on this .

[OvaSees]

^ you don't have to utilise specialist tools or machinery, some of which requires a license to operate, to do your job. The whole argument fails for me since anyone who wants the DC rate of pay can have it - by choosing to work in a DC rather than a store. That opportunity is denied to nobody, regardless of gender.

[Looselips]

These Women f**king kill me, they wouldn't last a week in a DC.

And no doubt you wouldn't last a f**king week in a store- and for the record I worked in a DC for over 27 years , and you are missing the concept of equal value claims, the jobs and challenges are vary , but the overall value (to the company as a whole) is the same ... NB the German retailers pay the warehouse and retail staff are paid at the same rate

[mexicopete]

I wonder what Usdaw have to say on this matter, surely it would make sense to union officals to have equality as they are always going on about. Does the partnership agreement  in effect validate Tesco policy so in effect making Usdaw an accessory in  this case.

Unfortunately we will never find out what Usdaw have to say on this matter, because like everything else that is wrong with Tosco at the moment Usdaw just stay mute. They really are Useless Seven Days A Week and always will be.

[Tape measure]

These Women f**king kill me, they wouldn't last a week in a DC.

Oh do calm down. Please.

[scattyduckling]

Some women will jump rings around some men !!

[Nomad]

That is true.  There are those who cannot or will not take gender out of the argument.  I personally have known some very quick female D.C. pickers.

[FatFraz]

We are all equal. That's the redundancy and the overtime pot for 2018 used up in the oner. 

[gomezz]

Gomez how is a warehouse a macho workplace?

My impression is based on comments such as

These Women f**king kill me, they wouldn't last a week in a DC.

[twit]

Anyone gaining more pay does nothing to harm those already in receipt of a higher rate. It merely corrects the situation (as determined by the tribunals and courts). So hopefully stores staff get a lift up in pay terms and divide and rule opportunities are reduced. Good luck to those covered by this action. It will do no harm.

[JL]

The men/women in Stores work as hard as those men/women in DC. Task are equally as demanding in own way. There should be no difference in pay between men and women. DC should not get any more than Stores per hour. I have worked both day and night in Stores and DC and at busy periods.

[Charlie1991]

Has anyone thought how this will affect your pension, it used to be based on final salary/ contractual pay

Could have a massive impact on Tesco

[trolleyboy96]

I haven't read much into this thread, but saw the news had a look, it's quite shocking the amount of staff who suddenly feel Tesco owe then £20-30k and they deserve it, I sat at breakfast while some of the guys voiced how as women there entitled and this will pay for a holiday etc.. at this point Tesco have made no reply?? Unless I've missed it, so will this end up being a wishful hope or will everyone get a payout?

Most cases it's easy to see how this will go, but on this one I have no idea, removing all the ill feeling etc... what's the logical thoughts will this be a big payday or just noise for a solicitor to get publicity???

The other thought is will this cripple Tesco, can't fill the pension blackhole...

[sensible_woman]

If this is successful and I get a payout and it makes Tesco go bust and I get redundancy then surely for some that would be a very successful outcome

[Charlie1991]

Tesco haven't got enough staff with the Correct experience to be able to work out these under payments if approved. All the experienced staff have been made redundant. There would be so many different elements to it, such as overtime, shift allowance, pension contributions etc

It would take years to get this sorted as it would affect ex staff as well (going back to 1984) - could be half a million people affected.