Please Read the Pages contained in the link for redundancy rights.
https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/overview (https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/overview)
Please be aware the payment scale stated within the link are the statutory Minimum Requirement and are usually Vastly Enhanced.
Please speak to your Local Reps who will be fully aware of the what the company Enhancements are and should update you on the consultations.
The information at the following http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=6661.0 (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=6661.0) in HTA, maybe relative, or at least food for thought.
Nice one duracell thanx for that... 8) It makes the muddy waters a bit clearer now 8)
I was told my company were closing my warehouse (Chesterfield) back in February. September 20th is the closure date. We started 90 days consultation period and this is now over. We were given our redundancy figures and told we could leave with a weeks notice should we find alternative employment. Many have done this and got their money. I applied for a job and got an interview about a week or so back. I was rung up on Friday morning and offered the job. As i wasnt back in till my shift on Monday night I rang my current employers and let them know i had been offered a job and i was bringing written notice on my next shift which was last night. I was greeted by a notice in the entrance way which read "Due to peak volumes we will NOT authorise ANY early leavers with redundancy for the next six weeks. This will be reviewed on a weekly basis. " Can my company do this ? They have said i can still leave but will get nothing. Yet they have let loads already go under these terms with the money and have given me no notice of their plan.
First thing they can't stop your statutory redundancy regardless of the situation.
It seems greatly unfair and I suggest that you speak to your new employer to see if they can amend your start day, but firstly you should put In A grievance but also ask to see you personnel or DC manager urgently, pointing out that you got your new employment before the company made you aware of the changes.
I can understand the problem the DC has but your situation deserves to be looked at.
To Highbury, I suggest a cheeky e-mail to Dennis Skinner MP , I'm sure Ms Cooke does not want to cross swords with him
Nice post,Thank you for sharing.........
At Harlow no one was stopped from leaving. Use that info. And that you are being treated differently from other staff and how unfair that is in a grievance. Also see your union reps or Area organizer and make sure this is bought up in the consultation meetings.
Was I unfairly sacked ??
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I was sacked after bad advice from union rep did not go to appeal im not in union an cant get in touch wi any one cos lost all contacts from old phone
If you weren't in the union, then you had no business seeking advice from the shop steward in the first place.
If that were the case, in addition to your not submitting an appeal within the appropriate time limits, then tough.
I can't stand it when non members think they can get advice/representation from shop stewards. I wouldn't have given you any advice at all.
It seems to me you have but one choice: move on!
Advice was offered by friend who is union rep but as usual all unions the same only interested themselves
I'm only asking for advice but as I'm hot member I take it im f##;ed
If you are not a member what right do you think you have in asking a TU Rep.
The reps are trained and the cost is from subscriptions.
You have kept your money tight in your pocket, now reap your rewards.
Quote from: animal on 07-12-14, 10:03PM
Advice was offered by friend who is union rep but as usual all unions the same only interested themselves
I'm only asking for advice but as I'm hot member I take it im f##;ed
First you state that you were given bad advice from a Union Rep implying that it is their fault that you were dismissed.
Now you state that the aforementioned Rep is a friend of yours and that they are only interested in themselves even though you now say they offered advice.
It was YOU that decided not to join the Union.
It was YOU that took advantage of the friendship by using your friends position as a Rep.
It is YOU that didn't submit an appeal.
It was YOU that lost all your contacts if that's to be believed.
It is YOU that only has a self interest and so easily turn on others, including your friend.
You don't deserve help. Besides, I would warn anybody not to help you because you are too eager to stab people in the back.
Personally, I wouldn't acknowledge the likes of you and would gladly see you gone first before any other member or non member for that matter.
No sympathy for you whatsoever. In fact my avatar applauds your situation.
Union subs are the cheapest insurance going. Any one that keeps their money in their pocket , stands alone. The basic and only strength that a trade union has is that all stand together , as one. The employers despise that strength , they also do not appreciate the fools who stand alone , employers ae often glad ( through gritted teeth ) that traqde unions help to manage the staff.
It works both ways , if you stand alone , then you suffer alone.
Goodbye , is the best thing to say to you.
However , good riddance is more fitting.
US
Being a 14 year member of the union, and having been briefed my job is under threat (but being told i cant have a copy of any of the briefs) I am wondering when my sata rep is going to say anything to clarify what rights we have and how they are working for us...
Usualsuspect What Strength are you talking about, Where is it.We need to get rid of this shambles of a union who are for tosco and not there members and get a union that shows some strength and stands up for its members
;) If everybody ditched Usbore and all united by joining another union would Tosco be put in a position where they would have to recognise that other union? ;)
Quote from: snowyowl on 28-09-16, 11:10PM
;) If everybody ditched Usbore and all united by joining another union would Tosco be put in a position where they would have to recognise that other union? ;)
Don't think they would Safeway did not even recognise USDAW any time one of there reps attempted to come into one of there stores they were told to leave.And if Tesco is in bed with USDAW they will simply say that is there Union of choice
When unions started up originally, I don't think employers were too keen on recognising any of them.
Wasn't that the whole point.
The point being "if you are going to have one, have a good one" ;)
Quote from: tumshie on 29-09-16, 07:29AM
When unions started up originally, I don't think employers were too keen on recognising any of them.
Wasn't that the whole point.
Well believe it or not when I joined T!#co ( a longgggg..) time ago my conditions of employment was that I had to sign to join the union although to be fair at the time the union actually had clout ,we voted on our pay rises etc ...unlike now where it's spineless and is so up the backside of T?!co .
The fact that I came from Safeway and as has already been said by others they didn't recognise any union I was somewhat surprised that I had to join the union as conditions of employment .
I've been offered redundancy as a way of getting Tesco out of a hole regarding a Grievance that has taken 2 years and involves a PM. There has been a stream of lies told by one manager after another to protect the PM and each time I have managed to make them retract their words. The union have been useless and are now putting pressure on me to take the redundancy package and get out otherwise this PM will take a Grievance against me and Tesco will look at ways of dismissing me due to sickness. Surely this shows that the Tesco / Usdaw partnership works in all the wrong ways. Think it's time to move on after 8 years in this place.
I would like to say stand your Ground if you have suffered injustice or inappropriate actions, especially from management.
Alas though you have to do what is best for you, contrary to what anyone is told, below work level 4 you will not make a difference alone to anything procedural based on your own perception of what is right wrong or fair.
It is a sad sorry situation we find ourselves in, but it terms of consequence the company culture coaches you only to have concern of consequences above your work level rather than at your level or below it.
You have an advantage of a record of retraction at least.
The offer is all about you, and whether you want to cut your losses with the unusual offer at this difficult unsure time for most, or whether you deserve to stay and maintain your rightful position in the company.
I am always scepticle of a forced leave, regardless of how attractive it may be, it seems like an injustice in my mind.
Also I have serious concerns about the union at any level, suggesting a consequence for not taking a sweetener offer. Who ever it is need to get the head around the situation, the company would not be offering you a sweet leave if they had the opportunity to escalate and dicipline you fairly.
Thanks Duracell. You have summed up the matter very well. It still feels like I'm getting kicked out the door and USDAW are holding the door open but I've decided to take the money and run.
Hi, if i am working my redundancy notice but then go off sick with stress is the sickness still classed as notice???
Yes.
My 45 consultation ends 19th October and i have decided to take redundancy. Do I have to work two weeks notice or can I leave on the 45th day?
I've worked sun days for the last 15years surely there should be taken into consideration when calculating redundancy...I read a post on here somewhere (but can't find it)that someone argued there case and won getting an extra £5000 something to do with basic employment law...???
Quote from: doggiebody on 30-09-16, 12:50PM
My 45 consultation ends 19th October and i have decided to take redundancy. Do I have to work two weeks notice or can I leave on the 45th day?
I was going to ask the same question. Surely if we want to leave say the end of consultation period say around 20th October all we would lose would be the notice part of the redundancy? Would be great if someone could clarify this. Any time I have been made redundant before the job always ended at the end of consultation period and I received all my redundancy payment.
This link says talk to your employer and they may allow it ,but if you leave early you may lose some or all of your redundancy pay. https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/your-legal-rights-when-facing-redundancy (https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/your-legal-rights-when-facing-redundancy)
there are a lot of colds and flu going around at the moment, and the stress of all of this must take its toll :question:
Quote from: takethemoneyandrun on 30-09-16, 10:08PM
I've worked sun days for the last 15years surely there should be taken into consideration when calculating redundancy...I read a post on here somewhere (but can't find it)that someone argued there case and won getting an extra £5000 something to do with basic employment law...???
A guy in my store said the same and won.
If you have worked a (UN-contracted) shift for more that 12 week, it's YOURS.Speak to your rep or co-ordinator.
My friend said if he didn't know about it, the union wouldn't have said anything ....
Hi I have also worked Sunday day overtime for the last 15yrs even though I work nights & I am also taking redundancy. I will ask about this when I am back in Sunday night.. My next 121 is the 11th October but not sure if I'll get much joy asking them... Thanks for this information as I never knew this... Please let me know how you get on & I will do the same. :)
According to Money Advice Service guide to redundancy you should get redundancy pay and any other outstanding pay on last day at work. Tesco say it isn't being paid until November 18th Official Pay Day - is it worth raising a fuss over this/
Another example of typical Tesco .. Really we should receive our redundancy on the day we leave.. Why are they holding on to it until the 18th November .?? Answers on a postcard please.. ;D.xxx
OMG, just been told that if I take redundancy I can serve my notice period on electrical desk, a job that isn't going to exist, is that even legal if I'm taking redundancy ??????
On my last day.....I will having a few beers , eating what ever I like. Pissing where ever I want ..maybe even doing a number 2 in a van.
I shall be telling a few of the fools I've put up with where to get off.
After I do all that I will never step into a tescos store again.
Unless it's to rob them blind as I know there security is next to useless.
Bye bye Tesco. But I hold a special place in my heart for that so called union and the bar stools that have taken our money and absolutely stabbed us in the back. I will make sure I have a run in with your establishment in the near future.
Quote from: the rule book on 01-10-16, 09:58PMmaybe even doing a number 2 in a van
You sound like the kind of charmer your colleagues will be sorry to see go. :(
I will be leaving them a bit of me to remember. All my colleagues are already gone.
They did much worse than I ever could dream of.
Quote from: Muggle on 01-10-16, 08:59PM
OMG, just been told that if I take redundancy I can serve my notice period on electrical desk, a job that isn't going to exist, is that even legal if I'm taking redundancy ??????
Why illegal? Why invest time and money training you for a job that you will be in for a very short time. I would expect most that go will stay within existing job or close to existing, or on checkouts.
Hi All,
If I decide to take redundancy, does anyone know if they will pay me for my remaining holidays that I currently have got?
Yes
Quote from: doggiebody on 30-09-16, 12:50PM
My 45 consultation ends 19th October and i have decided to take redundancy. Do I have to work two weeks notice or can I leave on the 45th day?.....Anybody help
If you don't work them you will not be paid them, you could go tom & dick ;)
A GOOD PIECE OF ADVICE,.....
TAKE THE MONEY, RUN, AND NEVER LOOK BACK!!!!
YOU DONT NEED THE UNION, they wont make the cheque any bigger or, change the legal process.
DONT be mislaid by offers of a different job on less hours, its a way of paying you a lot less in the long run.
THERES A FANTASTIC WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD OUTTHERE, youve served your time, get out of Goal,
Be Free.
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