Hi. I currently work outside of school hours and my child has to spend 3 or 4 hrs on his own after school untill I get home. He is 14 and just recently he has started getting into trouble (nothing major) after school. It is getting increasingly difficult for me devote all my attention to work while I am there as I'm constantly worrying about him getting home from school ok. Where do Tesco stand on the abilility to change my hrs so that I could be at home outside of school time? Do they have a duty to listen to and accomodate my requests to change my hrs in these circumstances?
Thx for any help
CR56
Yes, they have a duty to listen and accommodate you as far as they possibly can.
Have a look at this: http://www.usdaw.org.uk/equality/resource_library/1109773615_11028.html (http://www.usdaw.org.uk/equality/resource_library/1109773615_11028.html)
and talk to your rep for more information, he/she can help you with this.
Some info here as well.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Moneyandworkentitlements/WorkAndFamilies/Parentalleaveandflexibleworking/index.htm (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Moneyandworkentitlements/WorkAndFamilies/Parentalleaveandflexibleworking/index.htm)
;) 8-)
hi i to am having the same problems at work but i work full time in the day. My granson goes to nursery in the week and before now they have phoned me at work to come and collect him because hes had a high temperature and i let my manager know that i have to go and get him and all i got was why don't they put his f***ing head under cold water and this has happened a few times they just make you feel guilty all the time plus i get let down by my ex husband over weekends which don't help it always causes rows here with me and him wot makes me cross is I've helped him out many a time before i had my granson with me and he seems to forget that. oh by the way granson is a year old and I'm all hes got
Brambles61 all I can say to that is "dignity at work"....you can choose to ignore it or do something about it and put on a grievance. No manager has the right to talk to you in such a way and swearing at that!
Sorry, I can't post a link but if you look up "parental leave" on the yougov website, I'm certain it gives carer grandparents the same rights as parents in this situation.
I would out a grievance in about this MM. He has no right to speak like that either in front of you, or behind your back.
The right to ask for flexible working applies to anyone who has parental responsibility - parents, grandparents, guardians, foster carers ...
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Flexibleworking/DG_10029491 (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Flexibleworking/DG_10029491)
I recently used the 'flexible working' option recently, and even with 'right hours, right place' being rolled out in our store, I still have managed to change my working week to suit my needs (and also tesco's needs - it is a two-way thing). Get your rep to help you out with the application.
Bramble61 :Incidently, I have never been more angry as to when I read what that manager had said about your grandkid's health. If a mm had said that about my son, then I'm afraid I would be out of a job >:(
Let us know how you get on Bramble 61.
Quote from: The Mrs on 27-04-10, 12:22AM
The right to ask for flexible working applies to anyone who has parental responsibility
Does that include those who feel the responsibility of not having had any parents for a long time as they died relatively young and are worried they may do similar so want to enjoy a good life if not a long life? :(
Sorry, no. :(
It may have to be Plan B then.
Thanks for all your replies. Still mulling over my options. Bramble I don't know how you managed to keepyour cool in that situation. I would have been straight upstairs to grab a grievance form and had that A hole on the ropes.
Thx again all
CR56
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No harm in asking. Most decent and nice managers will try to help you out where they can. Happy staff are productive staff. You certainly should not have any more rights than any other worker in the building however. Descrimination against people without kids is getting out of hand in this country in my opinion.
Asking other members of staff if they would be willing to swap hours around with you would be a good thing so you can apporach management with some options for them. Pray to the gods your managers and generally nice people regardless of what any policy may say. The Decent thing is not always the "company way"
Just realised the date on this thread lol. How did you get on. Are you still with this company? :D
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In my store recently we have gone through right hours right place, I use to work sunday to thurs night shifts, but that has now changed to Monday to Fridays, however I was told by my manager that I must work sunday as the new hours take affect from Monday because that's the beginning of the new week, that means I have to work sunday to friday 6days! I struggle as it is with 5days and I get exhausted, and my manager doesn't want to help me in any way, bare in mind I have already done my sunday - thurs shift last week.
My questions are: isn't Sunday the start of the week? and if so I'm contracted to 5days a week wouldn't this mean ill be working 6days this week? and is this allowed? I ask because it means I'm spending less time with my son and don't want to work 6days? and should it not have been agreed by me first?
If any one advice Id be very grateful.
Your manager is wrong.
I was in the same position a few years back.
You work your last week of Sunday to Thursday.
Thursday is your last shift.
You then start the Monday. Sunday is the first day, not Monday. Refer your Manager to the Holiday forms, Bank Holiday forms, Holiday diary, Tesco Acadamy training manual for wages, Tesco Acadamy training manual for the holiday policy, registers etc.
Thank you for your reply loki, that's such a relief but at the risk of sounding silly when you say "Refer your Manager to the Holiday forms, Bank Holiday forms, Holiday diary, Tesco Academy training manual for wages, Tesco Academy training manual for the holiday policy, registers etc" does it state on these the beginning of the week is sunday? :-\
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Look at it yourself.
What's the first day on each column?
Take a look at the download section in the "more" tap found on the top right of the site.
the downloads-4-U section is only available to VLH supporters
here is a link to info on supporter benefits, and how to become a supporter
http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?page=15 (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?page=15)
ps : Annual holiday request forms, Pay query forms and the Availability forms currently being dished out for ideal schedules, all show sunday as the first day of the week.
apply for flexible working for caring for a child or dependant worked for me, with my little girl
Hi all I have my child in the morning and I drop her off at nursery and go start at 13.15pm someone said I have to still till 10.15. Anyone in the same situation.
Do you mean you shift should be 1-10pm but you start at 1.15pm because of dropping your daughter off and I assume your contracted shift is 1-10pm or 9hrs whatever the shift should have been. Yes you would need to still do your full shift but could you not ask your manager if you just took breaks totalling 75 mins instead of 90 that you could finish at 10pm.
I have a question about this... if I have written a letter requesting flexible working hours and more than one vacancy is available on different departments should I go through the apply as normal process when I wrote my letter before the jobs appeared? My impression was that I should, if nothing is available on my current department, be offered the opportunity to move to another department if it has suitable hours?
If I am reading your post correctly?? You have requested to move on to a flexible contract? Vacancies in your store have since become available in other departments that may suit??
Any vacancies need to be applied for....you will not automatically be considered, and offered these vacancies without you putting in an application for the position. Department managers would not necessarily be aware of your wish to transfer.....other colleagues may have also written requesting similar to yourself?
I'm a single parent who has requested that my hours be altered due to a change in circumstances to fit around the needs of my child. That's what I mean by flexible working hours. My understanding was that as long as there are hours on the heat map in a department that fit needs once you have applied for parental flexible working hours in writing they are supposed to help you as soon as they can if it does not affect the business Thanks.
Ok that's out of my experience with regard child care arrangements?? Perhaps, speak to your rep, or a more experienced rep on here, who is aware of the rules surrounding this, could help??
Have you thought about becoming a VLH supporter, then you could private message some of the more experienced members, requesting their advice. Member Olivia Pope springs to mind ???
I wrote a letter to our then PM who started looking into it for me. Of course they ended up leaving and despite my knowing there were more suitable hours available on several depts I was made to jump through hoops by my own manager because I needed to change dept. What frustrated me was I've seen jobs being filled in my store with no jobs advertised and seen others change dept with no problem. From my experience and that of others who worked for my previous manager I would say it's all down to how awkward your manager is, and mine, was awkward. I was forced to apply for the job on the dept as opposed to being moved because my then manager made a big fuss to delay it as long as possible because my hours were not desirable to many people.
I'm a carer for my disabled wife and I have two young kids. I requested a night off because I had to take my wife to an appointment and it would mean I would have had NO sleep whatsoever. It got refused so I didn't get to take my wife. What could I of done? I got told it was too short notice. (3 days). We had a full quota of staff and it wasn't a busy night.
Firstly flexible working would not automatically get you the hours you require, it just means your hours would be movable but normally not always in the staffs favour, you would be better of to try to work something out around your hours starting earlier cutting breaks down etc. if the reason you want flexi is you want the choice of keep changing your work pattern to suit your arrangements I am not sure how this will work.
you could claim time off for dependents (unpaid) but maybe 3 days is not enough notice surely the appointment was not that sort notice?
Quote from: carlh on 21-07-18, 11:38AM
I'm a carer for my disabled wife and I have two young kids. I requested a night off because I had to take my wife to an appointment and it would mean I would have had NO sleep whatsoever. It got refused so I didn't get to take my wife. What could I of done? I got told it was too short notice. (3 days). We had a full quota of staff and it wasn't a busy night.
Did your appointment only get sent to you with 3 days notice? I have sometimes said to people no to short notice time off but if they tell me what it is I will usually try my hardest to get cover for it.
Are you the recognised Carer on your personnel file records? Where you offered a shift swap, take as unpaid, holiday? Or just a blank refusal??
Sometimes she gets a "cancellation" appointment. Even had one for the day after once.
It was just a blank refusal. Even when I had to have a couple of days off when the Mrs and my daughter,who has the same bone condition,were ill I got told I have to think of my contract with Tesco FIRST
@carlh.. not for the first time whilst reading a post on Vlh.. I just gasp in disbelief at our so called managers and their total lack of feelings towards their staff. Your manager is very lucky it was you and not me they did this to. by the way the next time they ask for assistance in anything great or small.. you know what your answer to them should be.. don't you. :question: :question: :question: :question: ;) ;) ;)
It happens time again. Whatever answer a reasonable person would give I just expect the opposite now. Management is a natural ability if you try training it like Tesco do it appears false. Our place runs better without them. All they do is get GAs backs up with daft lets talks, investigation which go nowhere and reviews for people more experienced than they are. In the last week i have only spoke to my manager once about holiday booking. Surely nowadays all this could be done online/using an app/by a low paid admin worker. The only thing he asked of me all week was to try and do the WMTY. Again something I would have done without his input as I have issues I want to raise anonymously about him and the Lead manager who treat the new staff like dirt.
One of the line managers? Is pretty good, he's aware of my home situation and always tries to help. It's lack of consistency that's part of the problem
Again I ask.....are you recognised as the Carer on your personnel file??
I don't think I am,all the managers know my situation. Would I have to of seen it or signed something?
If your not recognised as the main Carer on your records, then you are treated no differently to anyone else with regard family commitments, especially as it is a regular occurrence. If you are her registered Carer, recognised by the social services or equivalent, or receive a carers allowance, then you need to have this included on your personal file. This would mean that tesco would need to take this into consideration, when hospital visits, RHRP etc..are in discussion. Then when your wife receives hospital appointments, they should endeavour to accommodate, providing you show the appointment letter when requesting time off.
Thanks,I'm registered with the drs and the council etc. Regards letters, occasionally she doesn't get them because she gets cancellations. I don't want treating different I just want consistency. I get refused yet one they let one woman off for "childcare issues" the child in question is 18,she just didn't want him going on the pi*s
Quote from: lucgeo on 21-07-18, 05:38PM
If your not recognised as the main Carer on your records, then you are treated no differently to anyone else with regard family commitments, especially as it is a regular occurrence. If you are her registered Carer, recognised by the social services or equivalent, or receive a carers allowance, then you need to have this included on your personal file. This would mean that tesco would need to take this into consideration, when hospital visits, RHRP etc..are in discussion. Then when your wife receives hospital appointments, they should endeavour to accommodate, providing you show the appointment letter when requesting time off.
He does not have to be a registered carer for his wife to qualify for TOFD. I've come across numerous identical situations regarding colleagues and they've ALL taken TOFD for such situations with no problem whatsoever as they are protected by legislation regarding TOFD!! None of them are registered carers... TOFD IS NOT ONLY applicable to registered carers.
Thanks. My kids also have the same bone condition, multiple exostosis,as my wife so it's not easy at the moment. In the near future both kids will be having a trial medicine which will mean regular injections,blood tests and m.r.i scans. I'm dreading telling work. The hospital is a fair drive and with my wife being ill I'm the only one who can drive.
Indeed TOFD is not only for registered carers, and I didnt think I was giving that impression in my post..I have always found it easier if people have it in their files as registered as a Carer. When it comes to having time off, as in this case, not every manager is as flexible/understanding or aware, so to have it in the file cuts out the c**p, or being told their contract with tesco comes first, when requesting last minute time off, or on a regular basis? Also in the last round of RHRP, a colleague was told that as they were not a recognised Carer, their objection to changing certain hours, due to caring committments for their partner, would not be considered as a justifiable reason.
carlh's case would be covered by TOFD. There's more to the legislation than the minute excerpt provided in the Tesco Booklet. Management should be aware of TOFD as a whole or it could result in them skating on thin ice.
Fortunately no such problem, as of yet, has occurred with my fellow colleagues. Nor should it be a problem anywhere else.
Then again, we are talking about Tesco here. 8-)
Hi guys, sorry if this is the wrong place, I've searched but couldn't find what I was looking for and I didn't want to start a new thread.
I'm currently working 32.5 hours a week and was informed by a colleague that if I drop my hours below 30, I would be saving more in tax than I would for those 2.5 hours, is there any truth to this? This would be handy for me as my daughter is disabled and my partner sometimes struggles so any extra time I can spend at home would make a big difference. I've spoken to my DM but she isn't being helpful at all.
I'm in Northern Ireland if that makes any difference at all. Any advice would be brilliant.
Have a look at your tax code on your payslip ( if you can get online to see it 😡 ) Eg the code 1150 equates to 11500 earnings before paying tax . Divide that number by 13 to see how much pay without tax you can earn each month ( 20% tax on the remainder ). Don't for get you pay NI on everything you earn each week above £162.01 and allow for tesco contributions too.
Quote from: Bakeryboy on 20-09-18, 02:13PM
Hi guys, sorry if this is the wrong place, I've searched but couldn't find what I was looking for and I didn't want to start a new thread.
I'm currently working 32.5 hours a week and was informed by a colleague that if I drop my hours below 30, I would be saving more in tax than I would for those 2.5 hours, is there any truth to this? This would be handy for me as my daughter is disabled and my partner sometimes struggles so any extra time I can spend at home would make a big difference. I've spoken to my DM but she isn't being helpful at all.
I'm in Northern Ireland if that makes any difference at all. Any advice would be brilliant.
Its 100% BS. Taxes are calculated using your weekly earnings. If you drop 2.5h a week that's 10h total. £81.8 if we just use hourly rate. That means your take home pay will be lower by £54.56.
Try
https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php (https://www.thesalarycalculator.co.uk/salary.php)
with and without those hours
It is possible that tax credits could change too.
https://www.gov.uk/tax-credits-calculator (https://www.gov.uk/tax-credits-calculator)
Hi. I'm unable to start my own post but wondering if anyone could help me please. I am due to return back to work from maternity in March. After attending a meeting my manager still hasn't given me a return date. I've been told as I'm unable to do my old hours starting early in the morning I am facing losing my job as no other hours in the shop. What do I do how am I going to provide for my child. I cannot work at 6am my partner works nights and won't be in to look after our child until a sitter comes available. I want to drop three hours and work part time I have given my manager 30 hours worth of availability. I just don't know what to do :(