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Over 70s Isolation

Started by extrastore, 15-03-20, 05:41PM

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notsofunny


If they have Shielding letters , Then they should not be back to work , Tesco will be going against government policy , as it is those that should be shielding can only come out of the Home once a day for exercise and are not even supposed go into a shop let go into a shop to work ,,

Make sure they have shielding letter and are not just saying so since some have tried it on with Tesco and then been found out ,

Grinling

Thanks Notsofunny. You're absolutely correct.

There is a lot of confusion because of the terminology and the letters.

Simply put (and this is advice for England) if you have an NHS letter you should shield until, "after 29th June." You are in the highest risk group having been identified from either your NHS records or your GP records or by your hospital clinician. We are the 2.8 million clinically extremely vulnerable group. We were to stay home with no face to face contact for 12 weeks until 11th June and that has now been extended until 'after 29th'. The single change to that is that we are allowed outside once a day to exercise or meet one other person.

I haven't received a second letter but govt advice is as always has been clear for this group. Shield for 12 weeks (in the first instance) - that s always emphasised. I doubt the NHS would bother writing to nearly 3 million people to tell them to shield for a couple more weeks when it's everywhere in the media, on nhs.uk gov.uk.......... 🤣

hornimans135

I had my last letter by text, I think the Government is giving information about shielding the coming weekend.
Someone had told me that we have to go to occupational health. Does anyone know anything about this and why?



Redshoes

All those who are shielded have health issues that may or may not have been in someone's file. This is probably because the sick levels were not at issue level or were seen as being at a reasonable level despite the health issues. This should really have been on file as these are now people that are off and the company/store did not even know they had an issue.
These people now need to have these health issues documented with an adjustment passport. This needs to be reviewed frequently depending on situation. If it's not an issue for the colleague and no additional support is needed then that is fine. The review gets longer and longer and will become annual. When the colleague needs additional support occupational health is offered. This is part of the support. A colleague has to agree, personal details are sent off and it's potentially the most personal information that is reviewed so it needs consent but it's to support someone. A support package can be put in place as a result of this.

Grinling

Quote from: hornimans135 on 15-06-20, 09:03AM
I had my last letter by text, I think the Government is giving information about shielding the coming weekend.
Someone had told me that we have to go to occupational health. Does anyone know anything about this and why?

I do know something about this.

The letters came by post but I was notified by text before its arrival - l by text - that I needed to shield. I have used both the text and letter as proof of shielding.

Tesco has a new People Policy. They are asking those people who are vulnerable to refer themselves to OH. It is a self-referral and you have to consent. It does *not* apply to those who are extremely vulnerable, that is to say those who are shielding. If you have a shielding letter which states you should be off for 12 weeks in the first instance, then you should be at home until after the 29th June. You do not need a referral.to OH irrespective of what your manager says. Shielders are those who have been at home for 12 weeks on the advice of the NHS from their medical records, a list supplemented by GPs and hospital clinicians.

The update on shielding from the govt will be this week and probably Weds - Boris's presenting day. The amended people policy is here;

https://www.ourtesco.com/working-at-tesco/coronavirus-latest-update/help-and-guidance-for-colleagues/

When you download the policy, you will find what you need in Section 7 on page 30 in the first two rows of the table.

Welshie

Will the vulnerable colleagues who had to return to work yesterday and that work within Leicester where lockdown has been reintroduced now be sent home again for 2 weeks ? I heard on the news today that there's the possibility of another 12 local lockdowns so is this something Tesco need to look at .

notsofunny

All depends on how they have rated the danger level , Is it not just a case of containment to stop it rising ? or has it got to the stage of when it first started or was before they said they had to go back to work ?

If they did send everyone home for 2 weeks they are likely to do so placing everyone on company sick pay or SSP but will they top it up like they are doing or are they just going to pay the SSP only ?

Did some of the Vulnerable not go back on the 15th or something , I am sure some had

Welshie

#232
Yes I think between the 15th and 30th.  I'm more curious as to what will happen to the extremely vulnerable who will be due back end of July or middle of August,  if there were local spikes would they be protected.  Wondered if any info given to vulnerable colleagues who'd returned.  My husband would fall into the extremely vulnerable  group and I'm not keen for him to return but we're lucky we could afford for him to take unpaid leave . But we all have to return to normal sometime . For people who are genuinely ill it's very concerning, especially if as a family you haven't really left the house for nearly 4 months .

notsofunny


This is what I have just read hope that helps which to me means those that have returned are to carry on working ,,,

But then if lockdown in this city carry's on then I would expect it to mean Extremely to stay home ,

But then if it was to get worse then I would expect a reversal for those that came back on the 15th

Health secretary Matt Hancock said schools and non-essential retail shops will have to close again, while existing anti-coronavirus measures would be extended for at least two weeks longer than the rest of the country.

Welshie


Babyface

Hope ok to post But can someone one remind me  the  10 weeks paid, 2 weeks holiday, 12 weeks altogether . The 2 weeks holiday is that just holidays or to include Bank Holidays. cant see anything written down thank you

Redshoes

Any bank holidays during the twelve weeks should be recorded as bank holidays. Over and above that it's holidays.

Babyface

Sorry but does that mean that bank holidays are not included in the 12 weeks thank you

Redshoes

No, in my store the actual bank holidays during the 12 weeks people were off were recorded as bh, the rest were holidays. Also, and holidays you had booked before lockdown should stand so it would depend on how it was booked. Holidays and bank holidays are just paid days off. There is little difference about how it would matter. The biggest thing is that if you overbook holidays the system will catch it and stop it. If you over book bank holidays the system allows but does not pay you for them. As its not the end of the holiday year this should not be the case.
We are at some point moving to work and pay, when we do this the holidays will be booked by hours and not days. I don't know F this also means that holidays and bh merge and just become time off in hours. No idea when this will happen but only know it's probably not this year.

lucgeo

As far as I was led to understand...only two weeks Annual Leave would be deducted during the 12 weeks.
Not everyone has the same annual entitlement for BH's, so it would prove complicated and time consuming.
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

chris9997

I think bh would be coded as such as this is a day people are technically off so would come under the premise of a bh.

hornimans135

  Hi, I had 12 weeks off in isolation 2 weeks holiday. Instructed by government to stay in isolation for a further month, 1 weeks holiday.
Why have I had to use 2 weeks off for 3 months and 1 week off for1 month.
I had three days owing me as I was in hospital in February and March but they will not let me have them now.
Please help me if you can .

dotnochance

I see we were going into a full lockdown, and yet as a vulnerable person and a Tesco worker we went be, guess we can get f***ed then

fatboy

Wonder if we'll get the 10% extra pay again now we are back in lockdown?

penguin

Doubt it, the only reason the extra pay was given was to avoid loads of staff going off claiming to be shielding etc
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

notsofunny

Quote from: dotnochance on 31-10-20, 07:17PM
I see we were going into a full lockdown, and yet as a vulnerable person and a Tesco worker we went be, guess we can get f***ed then

Its not a full lockdown from what I can see compared to last time and many other vulnerable workers will be working not just in tesco but other places ,

As it stands I think that a lot of those classed last time as vulnerable will not be if they do decided to do it again with shielding ,

Also we have not heard anything from Tesco about all this not that I would expect them to do any thing , what they did last time was way beyond what was expected

notsofunny

Quote from: penguin on 31-10-20, 08:22PM
Doubt it, the only reason the extra pay was given was to avoid loads of staff going off claiming to be shielding etc

Claiming ? thats the first time I have heard that was the reason for the 10%  From what I heard it was so staff would come in to work to do the extra hours and the extra effort staff put in , After all nearly everyone was asked for a shielding letter and a lot of them that did not provide one had the pay deducted ,

.....1

I see the government has announced the clinically extremely vulnerable should work from home where this is not possible they should not go to work. What do you think Tesco’s approach to this will be. Will it cover the whole uk or just England

expressman77

#248
Only the extremely clinical vulnerable received letters.  Those just vulnerable asked to shield were not sent letters, that's why they weren't handed it.

NightAndDay

Quote from: .....1 on 01-11-20, 10:20AM
I see the government has announced the clinically extremely vulnerable should work from home where this is not possible they should not go to work. What do you think Tesco’s approach to this will be. Will it cover the whole uk or just England

I suppose in order to avoid any legal fines if any Tesco would amend it's sickness policy to include sick pay cover without the 3 days period applying for those who are classed as extremely vulnerable by the NHS, they'll probably want proof of this though, maybe the letter that gets sent out.

I know of some specialised retailers that are paying staff to stay home, not even to work.

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