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Pay Review 2022

Started by yeetus, 29-03-22, 08:30PM

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madness

That is not how pay increasess work. 6% this year and 4% next year does not make it 10% now.

barafear

#326
This is however how Tesco "announce" such pay rises - it happened with our rise a few years ago - I believe it was 10.45% (over two years, and at the expense of Sunday/BH premiums reducing to 1.25 from 1.5) - meaning for a % of staff they actually saw their pay decrease - despite the headline of 10.45% pay increase!!

It's all about perception and eye catching headlines.

Found a report on it:

"Supermarket retailer Tesco has announced that it will increase pay by 10.45% for hourly, store-based employees, as well as those employed at its Customer Fulfilment Centre (CFC), by October 2020.

The pay deal, which was agreed with the Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers (Usdaw), will see selected employees receive a 6.9% pay rise from 1 September 2019, increasing wages from £8.42 an hour to £9.00 hour. A further pay increase of 3.3% will then be effective from 4 October 2020, raising pay to £9.30 an hour.

This higher hourly rate of basic pay will replace the supermarket's employee bonus scheme, and will affect approximately 240,000 members of staff.


The agreed pay deal, which was developed in partnership with both Usdaw and elected employee representatives, aims to respond to staff feedback, which found that employees wanted more pay certainty and a guaranteed, higher basic hourly rate.

Alongside the pay deal, Tesco will continue to offer premium payments of time and a quarter for shifts completed on Sundays or bank holidays.

Store-based and CFC staff last received a pay rise in 2017; this two-year deal increased pay by 10.57%.

Jason Tarry, chief executive officer at Tesco UK, said: "We are delighted we have been able to offer our [staff] a pay increase of over 10%, despite the significant economic challenges and uncertain times many retailers are currently facing.

"Together with our other [employee] benefits, it makes our total reward package more competitive than ever before." "



And details of the previous pay deal referred to above (10.57%)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40386827


Just years and years of having the wool pulled over our eyes.

penguin

Quote from: madness on 31-05-22, 10:25AM
That is not how pay increasess work. 6% this year and 4% next year does not make it 10% now.

Correct and Tesco are far from the only ones doing it, it seems a good way to get a nice headline "we are giving staff ten percent payrise" until you look into the true details.
Do not let anyone tell you there is not a decent job and life beyond Tesco.

NightAndDay

#328
Here's the kicker, for years, since time began, the model has always been to state pay rises in % terms, by virtue of Tesco paying peanuts, a showboating 10.57% increase is actually peanuts when you consider the following salient facts.

1. Most hourly paid colleagues are part time, meaning the annual nominal value of the increase isn't that much.

And

2. 10.57% of £10 an hour is £1.057 an hour, in comparison in my job I got a 2.1% increase, 5x less in percent terms than the 10.57% increase stated, but my 2.1% increase in nominal terms is an additional £3 an hour give or take.

Add to this 10.57% would be "inflation beating" whilst mine would be a real terms pay cut...

The principle value absolutely should be taken into consideration in many contexts.

Morris999

So your now earning about £146 per hour?
No wonder our taxes are so high :D
And yet your here most days posting about your past experiences in express and how it's the same in every format, even though you have no experience in the other formats or how the processes work and have changed since you were made redundant a few years ago.

T2019sackallmanagers

Quote from: Morris999 on 31-05-22, 08:56PM
So your now earning about £146 per hour?
No wonder our taxes are so high :D
And yet your here most days posting about your past experiences in express and how it's the same in every format, even though you have no experience in the other formats or how the processes work and have changed since you were made redundant a few years ago.


Do you know the difference between your and you're?  :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

NightAndDay

Quote from: Morris999 on 31-05-22, 08:56PM
So your now earning about £146 per hour?
No wonder our taxes are so high :D
And yet your here most days posting about your past experiences in express and how it's the same in every format, even though you have no experience in the other formats or how the processes work and have changed since you were made redundant a few years ago.

Not redundant, left for a higher salary knowing my worth. And the processes are broadly similar format to format, working in Express you get exposure to every area of the business, so Shift Leaders are better equipped than even some Team Managers on processes.

I earn what I deserve, but my ambitions are far loftier, to such an extent where I plan on using the various institutional mechanisms to influence decisions at every level in this country. But to do that, I need money, and for now I plan on making as much as possible.

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Ahsda

Quote from: NightAndDay on 31-05-22, 07:24PM
Here's the kicker, for years, since time began, the model has always been to state pay rises in % terms, by virtue of Tesco paying peanuts, a showboating 10.57% increase is actually peanuts when you consider the following salient facts.

1. Most hourly paid colleagues are part time, meaning the annual nominal value of the increase isn't that much.

And

2. 10.57% of £10 an hour is £1.057 an hour, in comparison in my job I got a 2.1% increase, 5x less in percent terms than the 10.57% increase stated, but my 2.1% increase in nominal terms is an additional £3 an hour give or take.

Add to this 10.57% would be "inflation beating" whilst mine would be a real terms pay cut...

The principle value absolutely should be taken into consideration in many contexts.

You earn over £145 an hour and you still find time for us lowly minions!

Redshoes

It would seem that us lowly paid workers can pay our taxes to fund someone who worked for us as a student but then moved into his career job to rubbish us all and repeatedly tell us all to leave. Could he be doing this at work, I hope not seeing as we are paying his wages.
He also seems to have come from a store with shockingly bad managers that have clouded his experience. From what he has said it's a wonder that store has not been under investigation.

Nomad

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NightAndDay

A reckoning is coming, exactly how long do you think the trend of below inflation pay rises can continue? Give it 5 years and the socioeconomic class system will be transformed, we're not too far off the point where full time CA wages won't be enough for rent on a studio flat, we're heading back to feudalism, non-managers will be serfs on Tescos land.

barafear

I was doing a bit of random research - I was going to post on the "news articles" thread in relation to "automation" leading to job losses - but also as part of the new t&C coming in OCtober, there's inevitably going to be a reduction in hours/headcount. Anyway - what I was researching was how much employee numbers had fallen (if they had) at Tesco over the last few years - so I looked for their annual accounts where such info is published - of course, the caveat is that whilst they might state "300,000 employees one year, compared to 255,000 the next" it's not exactly a like for like comparison because we don't have the Full Time Equivilent figure -

also, the figure seems to be a worldwide figure - so as we've got rid of various foreign stores over the last 5-10 years, then this might also skew the figures.

But of more interest was this comment that was written in their 2016 accounts:
"Tesco has a history of paying store colleagues well. The Company has one of the highest established hourly rates in the industry which
is significantly above both the National Minimum and National Living Wage, and pays employees the same regardless of age. Our total reward package for a typical
customer assistant is ahead of the voluntary Living Wage on a national basis. The Company is committed to rewarding colleagues with a total reward package that they really
value. Tesco is working on ways to provide more choice between cash and benefits so that employees can build a competitive and valuable package that suits them."


This was also the year from which the company was "recovering from the accounts scandal" - so directly after the above paragraph comes the details of how much our pay increase was in 2016 (remember, the paragraph above states that the "company is committed to rewarding colleagues with a total reward package that they really value".

So:
"For UK employees, including the CEO and CFO, there were no increases in salary or benefits in line with the salary budget for the year. With regards to bonus, a Turnaround Bonus, where colleagues may be rewarded up to 5% of earnings should Tesco achieve its turnaround plan, was in the year awarded to colleagues below senior management. These were in the form of shares being awarded up to the value of 5% of their salary. The above table does not include the Turnaround Bonus amounts. For 2015/16, bonuses for UK eligible colleagues have paid out at an average of 84.65% of the maximum bonus opportunity, an increase of 58.41% compared to the prior year. The CEO bonus paid out at 95.7% of maximum, reflecting excellent performance which has laid the foundations for sustainable recovery. This also resulted in a significant year-on-year increase for colleagues"


So, I've found the no. of employees in GB & ROI :

2015 = 330,130
2016 = 335,061

So, let's see how those numbers change over the years.

Looking at the 2018 report, we get the equiv figures of above to be:

2017 = 327,601
2018 = 324,117

A much shorter narrative on our pay in this set of accounts:

"In the UK, the total reward package for a typical customer assistant is ahead of the voluntary Living Wage on a national basis and the same hourly rate is paid
to all colleagues regardless of age. The Company is committed to rewarding colleagues with a total reward package that provides them with choice and that
they really value."


Again, interesting to read that phrase "total reward package" - just think of all those additional benefits we all get.

Onto the 2020 report, and I found this interesting 5-year (2016 to 2020) change in numbers for Total FTE (full time equivilent) employees.

Average full-time equivalent employees (FTE) 225,378 218,522 210,312 223,542 210,768


So a reduction from 225,000 to 210,000 (ish) over five years.

Onto wages:

"Between 2015/16 and 2019/20, we have invested significantly in pay for our customer-facing colleagues, and the hourly-rate for UK store
colleagues has increased by 14%. Over the same period, the base salary of Dave Lewis and Alan Stewart has remained unchanged"


I don't know how these directors survive with no pay increases over five years!!

Back to total employees in GB&ROI:

2021 = 336,392
2022= 326,218

Interesting that overall numbers went up from 2018 - I guess that was down to Covid.

And the most recent mention of our pay:

"People are at the heart of our business and ensuring they succeed helps us succeed. We are pleased to have reached an agreement with USDAW in the UK that sees a substantial increase in base pay, an extension of the colleague discount and new training and technology to upskill colleagues, giving them more flexibility in
their work and potential to access more hours. From July 2022, store and customer fulfilment centre (CFC)
colleagues will see their hourly rates increase 5.8% from £9.55 to £10.10. This represents a £200m investment in our colleagues – the biggest single-year investment in pay for hourly-paid store and CFC colleagues in at least a decade. In addition, we have made a commitment to all colleagues who are contracted to fewer than 16
hours per week that if they would like more contracted hours, they will always be offered any vacant hours first, before we recruit externally."



Hope this makes us all proud to work for T3sco.


lackofinterest

Quote from: King1999 on 24-05-22, 12:36PM
Just been briefed on it no redundancy on the table,make meaningful shifts for stock controllers what ever that means.The place is a complete and utter joke.The last bit of caring about my job has well and truly gone.
ditto mate >:(

justagrunt

I work full time in the warehouse in an Extra store. For the last few years, I have been putting in my 'What matters to you' about how backdoor staff should be on a different pay band than the one we're currently on. Every day, I feel like I'm doing the job of 2-3 different people. I'm having to unload/reload lorries, do pre-sort, then move on to dollies and pallets. In addition, I'm basically just a general lackey around the store, for example, I had to work on non-food for 2 hours yesterday because they have no-one physically able to pull heavy pallets of compost around the store.
As I walk around the store doing pallets/dollies, I can't help but notice how there seems to be 4 or 5 staff on each department that think being at work means its a social event and can stand there talking for a good 30-40 minutes while I walk past sweating. I suffer with mental health and my inside voice winds me up whenever I see these people, because I feel like I'm just being laughed at for trying my best, while they just slack and do nothing.
We had one instance where another warehouse worker from another store and joined our team and said that back in his store, you were expected to just unload lorries and do pre-sort, that was it. Needless to say, he didn't last long in our store due to all the extra jobs we have to do.
I know we could all argue about our pay, but if I went sick, they can't just grab someone off the shopfloor and tell them to cover backdoor as training is needed. On the flip side, they can chuck me on non-food or grocery without training and it's all fine. So I guess my argument is...if someone can't do my job without doing the training...warehouse/backdoor should be on a different pay band.

lackofinterest

look for another job mate. it's only gonna get worse! especially with tesdaw deciding in toscos favour every time >:(

lackofinterest

#341
Quote from: barafear on 07-06-22, 04:11PM...................
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Hope this makes us all proud to work for T3sco.


proud or ashamed??? :-X

Jackwarda

I quite agree there are a lot of staff who do work really hard, but there are a few who think getting paid means just chatting and standing in groups, chatting, whilst others probably think, what the hell! I know because over many years I have witnessed it  and managers have noticed those concerned. I doubt it will change.

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