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Calculating holiday entitlement

Started by Lost in Lewisham, 14-02-22, 01:49PM

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FarmerFred

Quote from: gomezz on 18-02-22, 11:22AM
I still don't get how you can book part days / a few hours left over at the end of the year if you are a CDD and your time at work is dictated by the van going out and coming back at specified times.  Can't see customers and managers being happy if you come back an hour or two early with undelivered orders still on board.  What happens about those few odd hours if not taken as holiday?
Book the hours you are entitled to & let management deal with the issue. Maybe cover click & collect or help with picking, turnaround etc... or heaven forbid, help out on shop floor!

mrpooie

Sorry to jump into this thread, but was told last night by our union rep that tesco are in the process of moving the usual bank holiday NIGHT shifts to the shift before. So for example bank holiday Monday will now be the Sunday into Monday shift and good Friday will be the Thursday into Friday shift. Just wondering if anyone has heard this, because it makes no sense and is ridiculous in my mind. Once again thus is just night shifts.

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Heard about the movement it sounds like it is just to p**s on staff again.

Sarah106

Our night shift already has bank holidays the night before. It is because more of you hours are actually on the bank holiday.

mrpooie

Quote from: Sarah106 on 01-03-22, 03:54PM
Our night shift already has bank holidays the night before. It is because more of you hours are actually on the bank holiday.
This I kinda get but for 20 years I have worked, according to tesco, mon -fri my first shift 10pm mon my last 10pm fri. So by this logic I am, in tesco eyes, actually working tues to sat. And it also means night shift cant go away for Easter weekend because they off Thursday back in good Friday. Makes no sense

londoner83

Night bank holidays under work and pay are set for the night before the Bank Holiday as in effect the majority of your shift (midnight till 7pm) actually falls on the Bank Holiday date.

mrpooie

And just one last thing, do tesco recognise the substitute bank holidays at Christmas and New year?

thor god of thunder

no because we work Saturdays etc. those in head office will have enjoyed that though as they just work Monday to Friday.

dairyfresh

Quote from: mrpooie on 07-03-22, 10:44AM
And just one last thing, do tesco recognise the substitute bank holidays at Christmas and New year?
Only if one of them falls on a sunday

Sherwoodforest

@mr poole ,of course you can go away for easter,book the time off,like our day team would have to do,it sounds like your issue not a nights issue,

chris9997

Quote from: mrpooie on 07-03-22, 10:44AM
And just one last thing, do tesco recognise the substitute bank holidays at Christmas and New year?
Quote from: londoner83 on 02-03-22, 05:35AM
Night bank holidays under work and pay are set for the night before the Bank Holiday as in effect the majority of your shift (midnight till 7pm) actually falls on the Bank Holiday date.
the union states that under work and pay the shift does not move ie christmas eve 24th december night shift comes in at say 10pm from 12 midnight christmas day bh pay kicks in

spike_pkh

Just book off the shift you want, ignoring when official bank holiday dates are. I never even know what the bank holidays are each year,  I just book my holiday entitlement whenever I want the time off

mrpooie

Quote from: Sherwoodforest on 16-03-22, 07:16AM
@mr poole ,of course you can go away for easter,book the time off,like our day team would have to do,it sounds like your issue not a nights issue,
Not really as before u couldn't be refused the shift now I can. So not guaranteed anymore

Sherwoodforest

Which makes it sound like you havent tried yet,if you normally have it as bank holiday ,work the thursday for the friday,im sure if the thursday is your bhol,theyl still want staff in.try a compromise.but if you havent tried to get it off yet then surely thats on you

oldfashionedplayer

Quote from the holiday management thing - Christmas Day 2022 falls on a Sunday, and in line with our Partnership agreement, Sunday 25thDecember is notclassed as a bank holiday. This day will be moved to Tuesday 27th December.

Night bank holidays for Christmas and New Year All Bank Holidays are set centrally for W&P Stores.For night workers on the "Work & Pay"Payroll system, only the hours that fall on the actual bank holiday will be paid at the bank holiday premium.

For example: if a colleague was to work from 10pm on 24thDecember, until 6am on 25th December, the first two hours of that shift would not be paid at the bank holiday premium (where a colleague works on both days, -the night going into and night coming out of a bank holiday, they would see no difference in the bank holiday premium they receive).

In terms of booking the night off and which day will be classed as the bank holiday: For those colleagues on the 'Work & Pay'payroll system, the night going into the Bank Holiday will be used (for example on Christmas Day, the Saturday night (24thDecember) into the Sunday 25th December will be the night the colleague can book off work using their bank holiday entitlement if they do not wish to come in).


So if you do want it off.. you generally got to book it way early.. or throw a sicky. thats honestly your best bet, either put one in and risk it or pull a sicky and work an extra day beforehand.

Sherwoodforest

Tesco cant make you work on christmas day,regardless ot moving the bank.holiday to a tuesday,in our store they let us do 4-10pm on christmas eve instead,some choose to work over night to save locking shop down,

knowles2

Quote from: oldfashionedplayer on 18-02-22, 02:53PM
Any holiday hours not taken would be lost, like it says in policy, its mainly. Up to to the colleague to book and use them all, so if managers aren't happy that's unfortunately going to be a them problem, if you want the time, book it, they'll have to work around it 🤷‍♂️, should have plenty of notice anyhow with the hours system...
My manager told me that they are getting told off by store managers and regional management if staff don't take their allocated time off now. We have had so many staff on holiday in this month.

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Surprised so many people do not take the holidays as soon as most in my place are desperate to take them and a few throw sickness at every opportunity football, warm weather the list is endless. The instore management right up to the CEO are clueless trying to enforce contradictory company policy.

mama_bear2006

Does anyone know when I will start accruing holiday?

I started on 18/03/2022 and I'm contracted to 15 hours a week, night shift, Friday and Saturday.


thor god of thunder

Quote from: mrpooie on 07-03-22, 10:44AM
And just one last thing, do tesco recognise the substitute bank holidays at Christmas and New year?

I though officially there had to be a store decision made and it could be either. although I personally think the night before is better we always had it the night after

Pavilion

Would someone be able to explain whats happening about the extra bank holiday in June, I have compared my wage slip with last years and have the same amount of hours for holiday entitlement.   Thanks

dairyfresh

If your contracted to a Friday you request it off and get paid for it doesn't come out of your allowance if your not contracted to a friday you don't get any extra as your already off.
If you want to work the Friday and are contracted you'll get paid your contracted shift then time and a quarter on hours worked on the day.

Sherwoodforest

I believe if you work nights then its the thursday for us

Sherwoodforest

@pavillion the bank holiday at the end of may normally ,has been moved to the thursday jubilee week,and if your contracted friday you can take it off payed,it wont show as extra bhol or come off entitlement,,,so its friday for days and nights I've now been told,

Jackwarda

so if you work 3 days part time, 13hrs is holiday worked out by times and not days so is what is the total for year, if 10 years, im not sure. Do you gain extra day or hrs when reached 10 years?

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