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Very Little Helps => All departments => Topic started by: Nomad on 05-03-21, 08:42AM

Poll
Question: Should MPs/Lords show solidarity with those on furlough/made redundant/getting nothing and return 20% of their salaries and expenses for last 12 months ?
Option 1: Absolutely, yes. votes: 89
Option 2: Certainly not. votes: 27
Option 3: Perhaps 10% votes: 3
Title: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 05-03-21, 08:42AM
Should MPs/Lords show solidarity with those on furlough/made redundant/getting nothing return 20% of their salaries and expenses ?

BIG vote yes from me  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 05-03-21, 12:24PM
Makes me wonder who the NOs are  8-)
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
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Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: penguin on 05-03-21, 03:51PM
Well Nomad finally something you and I agree on, I 100 percent agree with this idea.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 05-03-21, 07:59PM
Yea penguin, I've cracked it  :)  :-*

I seriously think they should do it, if they are genuine when they say "we are all in this together".

I had the thought when an MP on TV was constantly banging on about how little money the country had to spare in relation to the governments suggested pay rise award for nurses.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Mover on 11-03-21, 07:20AM
NO ,we are in work too.we had a bonus (though not a lot after tax etc).those who say yes to this I presume they would be willing to give up 20% of their pay , to show solidarity?? Thought not!
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 11-03-21, 11:11AM
Us, 20% of very little  8-)

Them, unlike MPs/Lords etc we don't cost UK Ltd approx £550,000,000.00 per annum.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: TheGreatArtiste on 01-04-21, 02:01AM
Quote from: Nomad on 05-03-21, 12:24PM
Makes me wonder who the NOs are  8-)

A bit late to the party.
But that's me.
Why should they?
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 01-04-21, 10:56AM
They are 'supposed' to be leaders, example setters etc, and a good percentage of them have done very little over the last 12 months.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 02:29PM
"They are 'supposed' to be leaders" so you want them to get less money? mp's make terrable money compaired to other jobs, some store managers in retail make more. mp's are making life and death decisions and laws that effect millions of people in the country. and beyond.
A large portion of mp's take paycuts from their normal working fields to enter politics because they believe they can make a difference rightly or wrongly.
Highly qualified intelligent people would never enter politics if you cut mp wages. And the main reason you dont want to pay polititions low wages is have a look at all the other poor countries they are all much more susceptible to bribery and corruption.
This thread is just childish and pathetic.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: NightAndDay on 01-04-21, 04:33PM
https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/pay-mps/

"The basic annual salary for an MP from 1 April 2020 is £81,932. MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London or their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency."

Don't know a lot of SMs who are on more than that, most I know are on less than this amount.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/03/nearly-one-in-five-mps-have-regular-paid-work-outside-parliament

There have been records of MPs having a 2nd job, it's a mateyboy doss job, they don't need to quit their field to be an MP.

As for making life and death decisions... the statement speaks for itself.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 04:55PM
wow you must be popular if you know every sm in the country and what they earn, since my exact words where "some store managers in retail make more"
And there are very strict rules for second jobs as an mp. most  mp's with second jobs are lawyersand in medical field and media
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 01-04-21, 05:02PM
Quote from: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 02:29PM
..............
This thread is just childish and pathetic.
Well, you just became part of it  :D

As NightAndDay has rightly pointed out it's not as simple as just quoting salaries.

I never forget how over the years politicians when discussing little or no pay rises for nurses they would proclaim that the nurses do the job they do out of a sense of duty and care and not for the amount of money they get paid, it's a pity they(MPs) could never take a leaf out of their own book.

3,332 candidates fought over the 650 seats in 2019 election, obviously a poorly paid unpopular job  :-X
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 05:06PM
U.K. population 66 million, doesn't seem that popular. also on the stupid pay rise comparison, let me guess u get all your info from the daily mail? Last mp-nurse pay rise was about 3% each
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: forrestgimp on 01-04-21, 06:13PM
300 quid a day to turn up pick your nose for 5 mins have some subsidised lobster bisque and go home.

Not a bad job eh.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 06:15PM
If that's what you think they do, 🤦 I will admit that the main thing mp's are failing in, is education! Going by this thread
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 01-04-21, 09:52PM
dotnochance, I'm happy to disagree with you, but I do find it a shame that you seem incapable of having a debate without resorting to snide remarks aimed at any and all that disagree with you.

It really is sad.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 02-04-21, 05:09AM
Boo-hoo

[gmod=gomezz]You are treading on thin ice now. Pay heed or I see a yellow card benching for you in the near future[/gmod]
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: dotnochance on 02-04-21, 11:29AM
Boo-boo red card me if you want, I mean vlads allowed to say deeply racist s*** and nothing happens to him his racist s*** is still up, people on here post stuff about dotcom staff like dotcomedy and saying entire department should be dumped, your fine with all that. Stick you card up your arse f****ng hypocrite. Racist stuff is fine but mildly offensive comments aren't!
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: alf on 02-04-21, 01:26PM
Whilst I'm not quite as against the idea as dotnochance, I do think this is a pretty daft topic.

It reminds me of those silly Facebook posts "I bet no one is brave enough to share this, but share if you think MPs should be on minimum wage" or some other tripe.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: Nomad on 02-04-21, 03:54PM
I fully agree with your second paragraph re: FB.

I never join in with a pretty daft topic, why would I.
Title: Re: MPs & Lords
Post by: forrestgimp on 23-04-21, 04:35PM
Quote from: dotnochance on 01-04-21, 06:15PM
If that's what you think they do, 🤦 I will admit that the main thing mp's are failing in, is education! Going by this thread

My post was more about the lords than the actual MPs because that is precisely what does happen. However MPs are harder working for the most part I agree. 

I seemed to have offended you and for that I apologise.