* *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
08-12-19, 06:43PM

Login with username, password and session length

Recent

Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 62787
  • Total Topics: 1104
  • Online Today: 160
  • Online Ever: 826
  • (23-02-15, 06:44PM)
Users Online
Users: 6
Guests: 126
Total: 132

Author Topic: DotCom Shift Change Trials  (Read 40565 times)

CosmicSpacehead

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #175 on: 23-10-19, 11:54AM »
I'm unsure how it would be a redundancy issue, unless I've missed a post that gives a reason as to why ???

There are a few things drivers could do, if they are having difficulty with the new hours...

1. Form and present a collective grievance.

2. Ask for a capability study

3. All go off sick in the same week with bad backs, let the managers go out and see for         themselves!

We've already decided that if 12-14 hour shifts come in, and we can't take redundancy, we're all just going to bring our last wave orders back and say we're too tired to drive safely anymore. Which for the most part will be true.

I already struggle with working until 10pm, even if I started at 6pm, because I still wake up when my girlfriend gets up for work at 7am. So I have to grab a little nap in the day.

lucgeo

  • VLH Supporter
  • Sad Muppet
  • ******
  • Posts: 2155
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #176 on: 23-10-19, 01:30PM »
Is it not a redundancy issue if the job no longer exists? Post 104 suggests that one of the pilot stores is dropping from 42 drivers to 30, and post 144 mentions delays to the roll out due to notice periods for redundancy and contract changes.

Roger this is Tesco we're talking about if it is as bad as its being made out to be they will go ahead regardless as it suits them and there is a chance that none of the drivers in the trial stores are on VLH I'm sure we would have heard some information from them good or bad if they were it is only 4 stores taking part.

Then I stand corrected...I didn't scroll back too far as the topic is shift changes....if drivers are being dropped, then those affected should be offered redundancy and hence delays due to notice periods for redundancy.
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

Littlehelpsvery

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 53
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #177 on: 23-10-19, 05:38PM »
Hopefully “urban fulfilment centres” come first before this

Littlehelpsvery

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 53
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #178 on: 23-10-19, 05:41PM »
All seems very quiet on this at the moment

Villager No.6

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #179 on: 23-10-19, 09:20PM »
Been on holiday.
Update to post 148.
One 9-10 driver leaving this week, said he’s physically and emotionally wrecked. Lives a 40min drive from store so not getting home until nearly 11pm where his bit of the family meal is sitting in the microwave. Has to creep round the house as wife and kids asleep. Gets to bed around 11.45 then back up again at 6.30 with wife getting ready for work/kids for school then leaves for work at 8 to battle with traffic for the 9am start. Got himself a job delivering car parts 8-5 five days a week, weekends off happy to lose £25/wk and 10% discount.
He’s said the 8-8 drivers have it easy(ier) as their vans are loaded for them in the morning but only a few 9-10 vans are so most days is loading his first run as well as the other two and has been averaging 40 drops where 8-8 getting 34.
Might suit the younger of you out there but I’m in my 60’s and have already made my mind up to go when this ridiculous shift pattern comes to my store.


uklions

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 2
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #180 on: 23-10-19, 11:46PM »
Same, I'm 56 been doing job cdd 15 years now.....NO Chance of me doing them silly hours either  :(

CosmicSpacehead

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #181 on: 24-10-19, 01:38PM »
I'm only 36, and live 15 minutes away, and I'm not doing them either. Some of our drivers travel 30-40 minutes to get to work, so they'll be absolutely shattered. I can imagine them not being in the safe state to even drive home after work.

I'm wondering if they'll change their mind when the accidents and law suites still rolling in. It's only a matter of time before an exhausted driver nods off either in a van, or their own car, and kills themselves and/or someone else.

Although Tesco would probably still want you to come in either way.

WageSlave81

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #182 on: 28-10-19, 04:11PM »
No idea how this would work at our store, every delivery slot is taken, plus we usually end up with some unrouted, we have 14 vans.

Having 2 heavy 800kg+ runs twice a day of 50/50 flats/houses with difficult parking meaning about half the time you need to trolley it, doing 3 runs i dont think anyone would be able to cope.

Even Sundays are getting bad, I had 17 drops yesterday that was magically 859kg - I would loved to have put the van over a weighbridge to check, I knew it was heavy when loading and most trays had drinks and things in, 65 ambient, 24 chilled and 15 frozen - we do have a van loader for Sunday, but 1 person for 3 hours before he has his break and drives his van means only half are loaded.
My first 3 were flats, next was an old cottage on a highstreet with cars parked both sides, I parked about 300m away and used the trolley to take the 6 trays the whole way, the whole day was hard drops. By the end of the shift I was ready for a rest, doing the same again for another run would have been bad enough, 2 more like that I dread to think how hard it would be.

lucgeo

  • VLH Supporter
  • Sad Muppet
  • ******
  • Posts: 2155
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #183 on: 29-10-19, 07:52AM »
I received a parcel delivery yesterday, on the email advising me of its ETA, there was also a Zero Tolerance paragraph, and in this it stated that all their drivers are equipped with a monitoring device to record every delivery.

Now there's a thought 8-)
Live for today. Learn from yesterday.

gomezz

  • Global Moderator
  • Sad Muppet
  • ******
  • Posts: 2638
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #184 on: 29-10-19, 09:32AM »
They can't even glue the cameras  to the van windscreen properly (most of ours are hanging off by the wiring held roughly in place by the passenger visor.
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

blueberet

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #185 on: 16-11-19, 05:56PM »
Any updates on how these trials are going?

Sambo

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 52
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #186 on: 28-11-19, 08:48PM »
Oh my god, glad I got out of there in February, I spent just short of 12 years at Tesco, they changed my hours and put me back on nights late last year, even though I was a carer, this would of sent me over the edge I think.

fatboy

  • Know All
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #187 on: 28-11-19, 09:32PM »
Sambo......what's that got to do with the dotcom shift change trial???