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Tambrath

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #125 on: 03-09-19, 03:11AM »
If any thing like the last pay review they gave with one hand then took with the other . Market supplement went down in my store . But still pile on the work . It's getting to a point the van are falling to bits dirty inside not enough time to clean them morale at a all time low . But the managers walk around in rose tinted glasses 

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #126 on: 03-09-19, 05:26PM »
don't forget they wont even supply things to clean your van if you have the time to do it in my store the vans everyday now have more trays than they can hold in the ambient

rogerthedodger

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #127 on: 04-09-19, 01:01PM »
Will be 50/50 I guess some will love it others won’t, but less headcount uniform etc has to be a bonus for the company

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #128 on: 04-09-19, 02:08PM »
There's a point where less headcount will directly effect revenues in a negative way, if the new system and remuneration package in place isn't an attractive enough proposition to attract or retain employees, then the company will have to rely on using their existing resources for overtime, it will get to a certain point where the operational integrity will be compromised leading to the inability to service the customer, which will lead to the customer looking at competitors (Sainsburies, Amazon, Ocado) for the service depriving Tesco of that revenue stream. This will lead toTesco doing one of 2 things, paying competitive rates and offering better conditions or withdrawing from that section of the business to "go back to basics".
« Last Edit: 04-09-19, 02:13PM by NightAndDay »

rogerthedodger

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #129 on: 06-09-19, 08:50AM »
All anybody’s talking about in my store! Imagine something has to be said soon

rogerthedodger

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #130 on: 06-09-19, 01:27PM »
Other bizarre situation is you can’t finish at 10pm and start 9am but can do a 9am to 10pm shift????

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #131 on: 06-09-19, 01:45PM »
Find it very strange that no one has posted any further details on this subject. If there's people out there doing these new shifts/hours you'd have thought there would have been more facts posted.

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #132 on: 06-09-19, 10:10PM »
From Our Tesco

Dot Com Drivers – Update from Meeting 1
It has been highlighted to the project team that the Summary from Collective Consultation Meeting 1
only included information on the rolling rota for the Customer Delivery Driver rota pilot, and did not
include information on the second option of a fixed shift pattern. To clarify, there are two rotas
available to colleagues – a rolling, 4 days a week, 44 hours per week rota, and an alternative rota that is
able to accommodate colleagues on a part-time basis all the way up to 44 hours, working set
shifts/days per week.
N.B. This is an update only and was not part of the discussion during the collective consultation meeting on the 20th August 2019.

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #133 on: 06-09-19, 10:31PM »
Other bizarre situation is you can’t finish at 10pm and start 9am but can do a 9am to 10pm shift????
It's to do with duty time exceeding 11hours in a 24 hour period, i.e 6pm to 10pm = 4 hours, 9am to 1.15pm = 4.25 hours 2.15pm to 5pm = 2.75 hours and that's your 11 hours so the 5pm to 6pm part of your shift is illegal before resetting at 6pm.

The 9am to 10 am is fine since 13 hours - 2hours for breaks = 11hours with the 24 hour period resetting at 9am the next day. 

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #134 on: 06-09-19, 10:50PM »
There's a point where less headcount will directly effect revenues in a negative way, if the new system and remuneration package in place isn't an attractive enough proposition to attract or retain employees, then the company will have to rely on using their existing resources for overtime, it will get to a certain point where the operational integrity will be compromised leading to the inability to service the customer, which will lead to the customer looking at competitors (Sainsburies, Amazon, Ocado) for the service depriving Tesco of that revenue stream. This will lead toTesco doing one of 2 things, paying competitive rates and offering better conditions or withdrawing from that section of the business to "go back to basics".

Dot Com are a waste of time, space and money. With any luck, even the morons at head office will finally understand that and shut it down completely.

Tambrath

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #135 on: 06-09-19, 11:14PM »
Dot com is run by Morons  from the top down.  Tesco like to get there pound of flesh rather then being open about there plans.  Christmas round the corner so only going to get worse.

cddriver

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #136 on: 08-09-19, 02:29PM »
From Our Tesco

Dot Com Drivers – Update from Meeting 1
It has been highlighted to the project team that the Summary from Collective Consultation Meeting 1
only included information on the rolling rota for the Customer Delivery Driver rota pilot, and did not
include information on the second option of a fixed shift pattern. To clarify, there are two rotas
available to colleagues – a rolling, 4 days a week, 44 hours per week rota, and an alternative rota that is
able to accommodate colleagues on a part-time basis all the way up to 44 hours, working set
shifts/days per week.
N.B. This is an update only and was not part of the discussion during the collective consultation meeting on the 20th August 2019.
Can’t find this, can you link it please?

I take it that’s the first official confirmation unless I missed something.

driverdave

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #137 on: 08-09-19, 02:52PM »
https://www.ourtesco.com/people-changes/stores/latest-updates-2/

Brings up a page where you can download the details of several collective consultation meetings.

cddriver

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #138 on: 08-09-19, 11:27PM »
Thanks!

rogerthedodger

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #139 on: 10-09-19, 09:28AM »
Going mental in my store, all anyone is talking about.  Lots of confusion and upset people.

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #140 on: 21-09-19, 09:23AM »
Anything further on this ? How’s it going in the pilot stores ?

Villager No.6

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #141 on: 21-09-19, 10:49PM »
Starts on 1st October but resentment toward 8-8 rolling shift colleagues by 9-10 ones has already started at my friend’s store. The 9-10 think they’re going to be doing more than the rolling shift.
8-8 are to go out twice a day in two 5 1/2hr waves, 8-1.30, 2.30-8 and obviously max weight of 860kg means in all likelihood max 17-18 drops/wave as now on a morning 4hr and afternoon 5hr shift.
9-10 go out three times so possible 15-16 drops in wave one, 9-1, 4hrs, 12 drops in wave two, 2-5, 3hrs and another 15-16 drops in wave three, 6-10, 4hrs.
Time will tell if it is this way.

Denbis

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #142 on: 22-09-19, 01:43PM »
If this is a pilot starting on Oct 1st in these 4 stores, anyone know how long the pilot is for. Month, 3 months or more?

fatboy

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #143 on: 22-09-19, 03:06PM »
The pilot in the 4 stores started ages ago. Dont know where the Oct 1st date has come from.

Villager No.6

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #144 on: 23-09-19, 03:02PM »
Fatboy. My friend’s store is one of the four Pilot Stores and they’re starting the new hours on 1st October.  It couldn’t start any earlier because of the notice period requirement for contract changes and redundancy notice.

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #145 on: 23-09-19, 11:54PM »
I have seen someone mention that the new shift system is not intended for stores only running a few vans eg six.  Anyone know anything about this?
"The progress of the kart is more important than its direction"

fatboy

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #146 on: 24-09-19, 07:33AM »
Not personally heard this but it would make sense. Would also be interesting to know how many Van's the pilot stores are running.

Villager No.6

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #147 on: 28-09-19, 12:14PM »
Friend’s store has 16 vans that go out in two waves of 8.

Villager No.6

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #148 on: 02-10-19, 09:22AM »
Well 2nd day in and just heard from my friend that the drop numbers guessed at in post 141 are true.
9-10 shift drivers aggrieved that they are doing at least 10 more drops/day than the 8-8s.
8-8s are getting 16-17 first wave and 16-17 second wave so max of 34.
9-10s getting 15-16 first wave, 10-13 second wave and 15-16 third wave so max of 45.
A few 9-10s already saying they’re knackered and one saying they’re going as soon as they get another job.
Cover for holidays and sickness supposedly coming from drivers doing overtime, some 8-8s happy to do it, no 9-10s are.
There’s a board up in the staff area asking if any existing colleagues have “Ever thought of becoming a Customer Delivery Driver?” They’re looking for existing colleagues to multi skill for O/T and earn an extra 68p/hr skills payment.
Shame they made so many skilled drivers redundant recently, they could’ve done that........

fatboy

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Re: DotCom Shift Change Trials
« Reply #149 on: 02-10-19, 09:49AM »
Surely having such long driving shifts will lead to fatigue and risk more accidents as the drivers will be knackered after a few 12/13hr shifts at the wheel.