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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #50 on: 18-06-19, 02:53AM »
I'm currently on pre-options and been told they are waiting till the end of this freeze until I can be signed on.

What's the chance there's going to be no sign on after these 6-7 weeks?

This will all depend on unfilled vacancies in your area. As there is a recruitment freeze they can't fill vacancies but they can put an options candidate into the slot on a placement. They are not now supposed to put people onto options if there is nowhere for them to go and they are not supposed to put people onto checkout options when there is only a grocery spot to fill, for example. Then, the longer the freeze goes on and the closer we get to a structure change the less they will sign on, but if huge structure change they may sign on more and expect high take up of redundancy option. So many variables and no clear cut answer as will all depend on local set up.

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« Reply #51 on: 18-06-19, 03:08AM »
Talk in our store is that if offered 5 of 8 the managers would take redundancy. We are a medium sized superstore with 8 managers and we have a large dot com department. We already have the combined service security checkouts manager role , 3 fresh 2 grocery a dot com and a stock legal. 2 lead and a store manager.
I'd say 3 of the 5 thinking are leaving would be a big loss they have a lot of experience and are more about the people than the company 2 are hang ons who are s*** but never dealt with as there is no up and coming talent in the company to develop. When you factor in days off and someone or 2 on holiday at a time it leaves us very thin on the ground.

yes when days are running fine it is possible but the amount of "trials" "new procedures" nonsense business updates" that all have to be signed for etc it is a real struggle.

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« Reply #52 on: 18-06-19, 07:09AM »
Was speaking with a good source and he said basically a few TMs would be leaving. He wouldn’t divulge where but most on here seem to agree night or day there is too many. The stock/counters have less work so sound like a good guess. We will all find out soon enough. Let’s not speculate any further. Someone will leak soon.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #53 on: 18-06-19, 11:58AM »
What weeks is this meant to be happening?

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« Reply #54 on: 18-06-19, 12:14PM »
123ttt honestly no idea.  :(

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #55 on: 18-06-19, 12:37PM »
Week 22 is the rumour that's being bandied around

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #56 on: 18-06-19, 01:03PM »
 8-) which would make sense, for affected managers to go through consultation, and the remaining being given more depts to cover as another soft structure change. All to be sorted before the build up for Xmas from September.

A couple of recently departed managers in our old store, have not been replaced, and other managers asked to cover for the summer.
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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #57 on: 18-06-19, 01:19PM »
lucgeo

 what departments are the managers from that haven’t been replaced?  I heard there’s an update as early as next week about further value opportunities.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #58 on: 18-06-19, 02:02PM »
What are the chances of Express SM's being made redundant?

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« Reply #59 on: 18-06-19, 02:17PM »
Maybe I am leaving.  :)

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« Reply #60 on: 18-06-19, 02:49PM »
lucgeo

 what departments are the managers from that haven’t been replaced?  I heard there’s an update as early as next week about further value opportunities.

Checkouts and bakery.. possible options for any affected managers to transfer to??
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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #61 on: 18-06-19, 03:27PM »
By the looks nights are going to twilight again reading other threads.  ;D and manager going too ??? Maybe Tesco is just folding this time. Agh well the shareholders are happy today with a 4% rise

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #62 on: 18-06-19, 09:07PM »
What are the chances of Express SM's being made redundant?

Slim I'd say.  There may be moves to have more multi site managers though to get their money's worth.  Score people against each other etc for redundancies.
 

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #63 on: 18-06-19, 09:13PM »
Nope. You're wrong. With regards to nights going.This caused so much disruption with distribution and within certain stores that it has been put on hold indefinitely. Certainly wont happen at larger stores for the foreseeable future. Our store is recruiting for nights at the moment. Both GAs and Managers. And Options candidates on nights still going out on placement.

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« Reply #64 on: 18-06-19, 09:51PM »
Nope. You're wrong. With regards to nights going.This caused so much disruption with distribution and within certain stores that it has been put on hold indefinitely. Certainly wont happen at larger stores for the foreseeable future. Our store is recruiting for nights at the moment. Both GAs and Managers. And Options candidates on nights still going out on placement.

Very true.
Dave and his cronies first thought that aiming to eradicate night staff would be the cheapest option to save money and balance the books. How wrong they were. Most stores that take over 400k a week struggle because night fill has gone and it has impacted availability and store takings to go with it. Distribution have also been struggling since 50% of stores with night fill are now twilight fill. The amount of jobs that are going at Magor dc shows this also. They are struggling to get people to work there as there's always jobs going on indeed weekly. Sham of a company.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #65 on: 18-06-19, 10:54PM »
Rumour was dotcom was being reviewed wouldn’t be a surprise to many as they have the biggest headcount in most stores now

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #66 on: 19-06-19, 07:27AM »
They should review dotcom as morrisons are supplying amazon with grocery and you are going to be able to get grocery’s delivered within an hour of ordering.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #67 on: 19-06-19, 07:54AM »
Just because your still recruiting on nights doesn't mean your okay. The best way to train people to fill well is on nights. So if your store changes to days there will be a pool off people to move to days. Remember that most new starts are only part time so moving from nights to days they will only lose a few buttons in night premium and get a buy out. It's only the full timers who lose out as the jobs on days are generally part time  and you only get a buy out based on your new job hours. Also if they have less than 2 years service redundo is cheap as chips.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #68 on: 19-06-19, 07:58AM »
I thought if they have less than 2 years service they're not entitled to redundancy (well statutory redundancy anyway, company redundancy I don't know).

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #69 on: 19-06-19, 08:27AM »
I think you get a little something from the company...but not much

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #70 on: 19-06-19, 08:41AM »
Just because your still recruiting on nights doesn't mean your okay. The best way to train people to fill well is on nights. So if your store changes to days there will be a pool off people to move to days. Remember that most new starts are only part time so moving from nights to days they will only lose a few buttons in night premium and get a buy out. It's only the full timers who lose out as the jobs on days are generally part time  and you only get a buy out based on your new job hours. Also if they have less than 2 years service redundo is cheap as chips.

Training on nights...Naff off
Fill well...please
Few buttons...as important to them as the many is to others.
Pool of people...most our part time night staff have left or are leaving (not getting anymore) despite the leads effort this will leave a lot of 4/5 nights people who will take redundo at first chance.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #71 on: 19-06-19, 06:39PM »
What's the chances of food stock managers with 7 staff being made redundant  has anyone heard anything?

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #72 on: 19-06-19, 06:50PM »
You got your fingers crossed then?  8-)
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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #73 on: 20-06-19, 11:11AM »
Nope. You're wrong. With regards to nights going.This caused so much disruption with distribution and within certain stores that it has been put on hold indefinitely. Certainly wont happen at larger stores for the foreseeable future. Our store is recruiting for nights at the moment. Both GAs and Managers. And Options candidates on nights still going out on placement.
I dont think there is any consideration of if stores are struggling to fill during the day or depots are also struggling if there was such an impact i am sure it would be reveresed.

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Re: Line manager movement / appointments freeze 2019
« Reply #74 on: 20-06-19, 11:32AM »
Part of me thinks that but actually part of me thinks Tesco higher ups will never admit they were wrong to do something and reverse it.