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Could pfs be next?
« on: 25-02-19, 02:03PM »
Afternoon everyone,
I am not trying to scaremongering I am genuinely worried about my job.  Does anyone else think there is a chance they could close the kiosk and go pay at pump only? They seem to have cancelled the clock  machines we were meant to have installed. This also worried me.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #1 on: 25-02-19, 03:05PM »
So because you's aren't getting new clocking in systems you think p.f.s might be going, stores are meant to be getting new stuff in but don't does that mean they are closing have a thought for one's that are actually being affected by the changes instead of just assuming things.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #2 on: 25-02-19, 03:46PM »
I do have every sympathy for what others are going through at the moment. I myself have been through it twice before so therefore know exactly what they are feeling. I was merely asking how others felt re pfs. I have just taken on a mortgage and I am very worried about my job as many others are in my store.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #3 on: 25-02-19, 04:29PM »
To be perfectly honestly, I doubt anybody feels secure in whatever position they are in at Tesco anymore and I would consider all roles at risk of change or termination going forward.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #4 on: 25-02-19, 04:34PM »

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #5 on: 25-02-19, 04:44PM »
The things is would the savings out way any profit they may be making, Its not always about the profits.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #6 on: 25-02-19, 05:40PM »
What school of economics did you go to!

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #7 on: 25-02-19, 05:44PM »
Are most PFS 24hr ? And the ones that aren't  , are they closed at night or pay at pump only ?

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« Reply #9 on: 25-02-19, 06:41PM »
PFS.....petrol filling station

Yes there have been rumours instore that PFS may be in Dave's sights.....customer service manager to take over PFS.

I was informed many years ago by a very experienced SM that the profit from PFS is minimal, 1p per footfall. They keep them on as it draws shoppers to the store. So to go pay at pump would be a huge saving in terms of profit as footfall still remains and the PFS doesn't offer the instore promotions.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #10 on: 25-02-19, 09:53PM »
With the rise in card payments and contact less technology will people in future still want to go in a kiosk to pay....

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« Reply #11 on: 25-02-19, 10:59PM »
With the new electric/solar car PFS will only be in decline.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #12 on: 25-02-19, 11:21PM »
Many asda petrol stations near me do not have a kiosk at all and it's unmanned. Just 8 petrol pumps! So much nicer than having to wait for the cashier in tesco pfs to accept it  8-)
May i add that Asda petrol local to me is 113.7p as opposed to tesco at 119.9p 1 mile between them! Asda for fuel and asda for grocery shopping! They may be on the decline as for sales but they are by far cheaper than tesco in every way!

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« Reply #13 on: 26-02-19, 12:52AM »
We were told at a PFS conference that Lidl take the same money as our PFS. It s big business. There are high overheads but still profit to be had.
A trial was done in a store down the road. They closed the PFS kiosk and had pay at pump only and not only did the fuel sakes to down but so did the store. This was only a couple of years ago and the PFS opened again.
As far as the clocking machine goes I assume it's just down to cost. There was a huge debate about when do you start work. That was the reason for clocking machine. Most stores have a PFS not far off but there are a few that don't. I'm told of one where the PFS is a mile from the store.

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« Reply #15 on: 26-02-19, 07:22AM »
Many asda petrol stations near me do not have a kiosk at all and it's unmanned. Just 8 petrol pumps! So much nicer than having to wait for the cashier in tesco pfs to accept it  8-)
May i add that Asda petrol local to me is 113.7p as opposed to tesco at 119.9p 1 mile between them! Asda for fuel and asda for grocery shopping! They may be on the decline as for sales but they are by far cheaper than tesco in every way!
This. ASDA customers seem to be well accustomed to it, but only because they are getting the cheapest fuel around as the payback - if ASDA fuel was not at a lower pirce point, I think they would suffer sales and customer loss at PFS and store in exactly the way the Tesco trial did. The problem at Tesco is that its policy is, I believe, only to be 'competitive' within a 2 mile radius and not to be the cheapest hence why the trial didn't work - customers will take advantage when you are the lowest price as ASDA have demonstrated. Tesco going entirely pay-at-pump would therefore be a purely cost-cutting exercise, wouldn't rule it out for that reason alone but this would be highly speculative.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #16 on: 27-02-19, 06:55PM »
Thanks for all replies. Seems everyone thinking same thing that garages next on hit list. Sad days for all the loyal staff.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #17 on: 28-02-19, 01:37AM »
@Penny did you read the replies ?? Because to me most people are saying NO the pfs brings sales to store . This is how rumours and scaremonging  starts  .

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« Reply #18 on: 28-02-19, 08:01AM »
Yes it may be speculating but remember Dave has to make cost savings every year. With a lot of the fat gone from stores, there isn't many places left to look.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #19 on: 28-02-19, 08:32AM »
I don't think anyone can or should sit back and think they have a job for life. Costa machines were put in all kiosks and this might all be to do with profit margins. The car washes were upgraded too. Two people are paid to man the kiosk and if you feel you don't have enough work to do you could be under threat in the future, on the other hand if your kiosk is busy with a steady stream of customers I would worry less. The PFS does bring in a lot of money but it could be more of a case of cash in the till. I don't know anything, nobody does.

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« Reply #20 on: 28-02-19, 09:43AM »
Yes it may be speculating but remember Dave has to make cost savings every year. With a lot of the fat gone from stores, there isn't many places left to look.
Could always take a look the executive team could easily simplify the team. Think of the money that would be saved there. 
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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #21 on: 28-02-19, 09:53AM »
The problem with trying to streamline departments which require knowledge or skill that isn't easily acquired is that (i) unless the person making the decision has enough knowledge of the processes and impact of whatever department they're cutting back, they could risk organic growth and legal compliance down the line (resulting in million pound fines). (ii) unlike shop floor staff, these teams can't be replaced as easily, the supply of people that can do the departments job role is 100 fold smaller than the supply of people that can work on the shop floor.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #22 on: 01-03-19, 08:57AM »
What school of economics did you go to!

The one that says if for the same investment elsewhere you can get higher profits then its probably worth while shutting manned PFS's down.

So you see making a profit is not the only thing to take into account.

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Re: Could pfs be next?
« Reply #24 on: 01-03-19, 04:57PM »
Bottom line is Dave could cut anyone's job, any employee who thinks they are untouchable needs to wake up.