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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #25 on: 08-01-19, 08:39PM »
They have to matter to a certain degree . If it says you have 5 facings 2 deep and you only have 1 facing , it's bound to cause back-stock!

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« Reply #26 on: 08-01-19, 11:48PM »
The warehouse should have nothing stored in it end of story. Delivery should be getting dragged straight onto the shop floor not to be taken back to the warehouse. Shouldn't be getting stock until a shelf is empty. It needs everyone doing the job though which is asking the impossible.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #27 on: 09-01-19, 09:16AM »
What has p**sed me off most is we have not had any extra resources to handle these extra stock quantities with all the rotation implications and our managers are all to eager to jump on you if you find a tray of oos produce

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« Reply #28 on: 09-01-19, 10:52AM »
They have to matter to a certain degree . If it says you have 5 facings 2 deep and you only have 1 facing , it's bound to cause back-stock!

On produce if you have 5 facings and 2 deep then you would think you would get 10 cases. But you don't. It is based on sales. So even if you have only 1 facing or 20 facings you "should" get stock roughly matching expected sales with a bit of overstock/ backstock.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #29 on: 09-01-19, 12:39PM »
Purchasing and ordering management failed, overestimated sales projection, over order from supplier, overstock, dump it to make room in the warehouse and make someone job looks not too bad.
Plus not enough resources in the shops and inability to manage resources = more freebies and waste.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #30 on: 10-01-19, 03:42AM »
From the moment I started working for the big t around 30 years ago stock levels have been an issue with some products. To say there was no issues before central is rubbish IMHO.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #31 on: 10-01-19, 06:33AM »
When I worked in grocery in a different store we were told we were moving into "one touch fill" and we would no longer have stock in warehouse, only promotion stock to top up.
This was 25 years ago!

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #32 on: 10-01-19, 10:35AM »
but what if we run out of the 200g kit kat for 3 hours at the end of a day and customers can only get the 100g,160g or 240g pack when they come in to shop at 9pm at night. We will lose that customer forever to our competitors.... 8-)

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #33 on: 10-01-19, 01:41PM »
From the moment I started working for the big t around 30 years ago stock levels have been an issue with some products. To say there was no issues before central is rubbish IMHO.

There were always issues, but at least in-store stock control and managers could deal with them directly. Now, all they can do is count the stock and feed it back to centre. Which rarely has any effect in the short term.

Everyone who works in centre, and the people at head office responsible for it, should lose their jobs. And find employment more suited to their talents. Like cleaning toilets. With a toothbrush.
« Last Edit: 10-01-19, 01:45PM by VladPutin »

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #34 on: 10-01-19, 11:55PM »
There is a complete misunderstanding about how produce and certain other fresh areas are procured which leads to people misinterpreting stock control/central ordering/steps whatever other name people like to attribute the problem to.

Tesco purchase produce in vast quantities years and months in advance, it is very common to buy fields of produce rather than specific numbers and thus regardless of whether we require the stock or not we need to try and sell it. Much is sold to other businesses but ultimately a volume will be pushed to stores. There is little option to change from this approach unless the industry changes as that's what other retailers (especially Lidl and Aldi do), they are experts at "blocking" other retailers from products by bulk buying fields or entire production from suppliers.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #35 on: 11-01-19, 02:10AM »
Well instead of ramming stores with stock that won’t sell reduced why not do a company wide promotion of say 10% off all produce or even 20% then we won’t have to waste man hours reducing it all and can focus on filling it instead of throwing it away .

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #36 on: 11-01-19, 10:48AM »
So supermarkets buy fields of produce and much of it gets thrown in the bin.

They are doing all they can to reduce waste, yeah right, pull the other one  :o  8-)  >:(
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« Reply #37 on: 11-01-19, 05:25PM »
He is right (the company don't really care about food waste as long as they are SEEN to care) Aldi and lidl have a very dynamic stock ordering system which you can change day to day. Tesco is pretty much automated. However you can control it a little and delist a product it just take about   days to stop stocking. Requires a produce manager to know the space and stock system though.

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« Reply #38 on: 11-01-19, 06:26PM »
There is a complete misunderstanding about how produce and certain other fresh areas are procured which leads to people misinterpreting stock control/central ordering/steps whatever other name people like to attribute the problem to.

Tesco purchase produce in vast quantities years and months in advance, it is very common to buy fields of produce rather than specific numbers and thus regardless of whether we require the stock or not we need to try and sell it. Much is sold to other businesses but ultimately a volume will be pushed to stores. There is little option to change from this approach unless the industry changes as that's what other retailers (especially Lidl and Aldi do), they are experts at "blocking" other retailers from products by bulk buying fields or entire production from suppliers.

None of that changes the fact that before some genius came up with the idea of centralising stock control, the individual stores and managers had far more control and were able to stop problems before they became major issues. Now all they can do when faced with massive loads of stock they can't sell is count it, reduce it and feed it back up the chain to Centre. And it takes a very long time for anything to be resolved.

Close down Centre, sack the lazy morons who work there and give responsibility and power over stock control back to the stores.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #39 on: 11-01-19, 06:28PM »
Part of the problem is also caused by people too lazy to chop/prepare whole fruit and veg meaning a proportion is sent to stores prepared with a much shorter code life.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #40 on: 12-01-19, 01:50AM »
I guess the whole central vs local store stock ordering depends on the competence of the person making the orders. I'm sure some stores were awful at their own ordering but head office seem pretty bad at doing the job.

My store has suffered greatly when the change to central ordering was made, but then we had exceptional stock controllers at the time who
knew what they were doing and did steps to reduce waste, traded key promo lines well, that sort of thing.

Now we get mistimed orders, and sometimes bizarre promo management. Empty ends the day after promo change being particularly strange and counter intuitive.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #41 on: 15-01-19, 02:18PM »
Stock control, in spite of the name, cannot alter the amount of fresh stock that is forced in by centre. They can only count it and pass on the information. But the fault is solely with Centre/Head Office. They are the ones responsible for this omni-shambles.
  :-[ VladPutin is it not Tesco a Shameful Real MESS ? What do you expect when you have bad wandering actors playing USELESS  CEOs and managers ?   :P

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #42 on: 15-01-19, 02:59PM »
 ;D^True

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #43 on: 15-01-19, 06:06PM »
Most of our bread delivery pretty much constantly sits out the back for 24 hours after delivery before being taken onto the shop floor. We constantly run with non-fresh bread on the shelves on 85% of lines in an Extra store. We often have 3 lots of the same type of bread from separate deliveries still out the back from separate deliveries which causes further problems as lazy people don't check the dates and make a bad situation worse still by taking the newest bread out instead of the stuff that's 2 days older. System says that we sell 180 Warburtons Toastie on a particular day so the same system that knows this sends in 330 for that exact same day. Constantly having obscene amounts of reductions and it's been like this for years. Think it went almost sensible for about 1 month last year. Then after all this a couple of things not scanned into reductions/waste for the day out of the millions of un-needed items they've sent us and the figures for the store are screwed for the day and head office are sending in the gestapo to find out what the hell we've been doing. Well, yeah guys, if you sent us a sensible amount of stock then the figures would be fine and the customers would actually have some fresh bread for a change. Won't hold my breath though. Absolute incompetent overpaid idiots whoever runs that system.

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Re: Stock levels
« Reply #44 on: 15-01-19, 06:20PM »
Stock control, in spite of the name, cannot alter the amount of fresh stock that is forced in by centre. They can only count it and pass on the information. But the fault is solely with Centre/Head Office. They are the ones responsible for this omni-shambles.
  :-[ VladPutin is it not Tesco a Shameful Real MESS ? What do you expect when you have bad wandering actors playing USELESS  CEOs and managers ?   :P

Tesco is so badly managed, it makes Brexit look efficient! ;D :D