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Personal day 2nd jan
« on: 06-08-18, 07:12PM »
Manager has allocated 2nd Jan as a personal day, surely if store is closed and employee would rather have unpaid they shouldn't have to use their personal day / or the manager shouldn't be able to allocate it. Comments, advice please anyone
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #1 on: 06-08-18, 07:56PM »
You should be able to take the 2nd unpaid and use your personal day at a time of your choice.

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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #2 on: 06-08-18, 08:37PM »
And would the personal day have to be booked at the time of holiday review meeting or can the employee refuse to book it at that time.

Also I know of managers who are not holding meetings at all but just handing out the holiday review meeting forms for the employee to sign
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #3 on: 06-08-18, 09:09PM »
Clues in the title really....PERSONAL day..... ???
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #4 on: 06-08-18, 09:50PM »
Manager has allocated 2nd Jan as a personal day, surely if store is closed and employee would rather have unpaid they shouldn't have to use their personal day / or the manager shouldn't be able to allocate it. Comments, advice please anyone


Depends on what part of country you are. Scottish stores should use theres on 2nd January as we don't technically get a PD as we have 1 more BH ( 2nd JAN) than rest of country who get 8 BH and PD .

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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #5 on: 06-08-18, 11:14PM »
Should use it on the 2nd, or have to use it on the second ? (Which was the original reason behind the question)
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #6 on: 06-08-18, 11:46PM »
I understood Scottish stores no longer have a personal day, as they will now have an extra BH on 2nd January.

If you are not in Scotland, and your store is closed on 2nd January surely you would have to use a holiday or BH for it, just as you do for xmas day & 1st January.

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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #7 on: 07-08-18, 12:26AM »
Nope still classed as PD for 2nd Jan up here. Makes no difference just a different coding. 

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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #8 on: 07-08-18, 08:23AM »
Policy says :-

Every holiday year you’re entitled to an additional paid day off called a ‘Personal Day’. This can be taken at any time such as on your birthday or anniversary, or on a special religious festival.

And further down it also says:-

Scotland – if you are scheduled to work on the 2nd January and do not want to work, you should use your Personal Day.

So it appears unclear whether you can take it anytime you wish or have to take it on the second (it uses the word should, not have to), can anyone clarify
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #9 on: 07-08-18, 12:15PM »
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #10 on: 07-08-18, 12:53PM »
Not really sure what you mean if ur in Scotland and scheduled to work the 2nd then u would either work it or take it off as a bh day which is what a PD in Scotland is .

Is store closed then it would be exactly same as Xmas day boxing day or the first of Jan if closed and colleague scheduled to work then they use a bank holiday just like in England on Easter sunday when stores closed they use a holiday
« Last Edit: 07-08-18, 01:00PM by Expressdude2016 »

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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #11 on: 07-08-18, 04:47PM »
Or take it as unpaid or pay time back, because as far as I can see policy doesnt say "must" take it on the 2nd, only states "should", and I know in other walks of life "must" and "should" can be taken in the context of legal and illegal (highway code for example)
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #12 on: 07-08-18, 08:22PM »
don't know why your making such a deal out of this its always been the case. pretty pathetic moan to be honest. should be glad we get the 2nd as a holiday in Scotland.


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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #13 on: 07-08-18, 08:35PM »
No need to be ratty expressdude2016, who says it's for me anyway, I ask a question and most people help with replies, that one wasn't constructive
« Last Edit: 07-08-18, 08:37PM by dfl »
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Re: Personal day 2nd jan
« Reply #14 on: 09-08-18, 07:07AM »
Sometimes there will be more bank holidays that fall on
your contracted days of work than you have in your bank
holiday allowance. You will then have the choice to:

Book a day’s holiday from your ‘normal’ holiday
allowance
? Work the day (assuming this option is available in your
place of work)
? Re-arrange your working hours to a mutually agreed
time within four weeks of the holiday
? Take the day as unpaid leave

Colleagues in Scotland do not have to work on 2nd
January if they don’t want to

so up to you you / whoever is doing it on whether you use the personal day or take it unpaid, pretty clear on the holiday policies pages 4/10, 7/10.

If you work in Scotland, use your Personal Day on the ninth
bank holiday if you are normally scheduled to work the day
and you do not want to do so.

Not really your managers choice according to that, but generally your personal day if you dont want to use it is supposed to be the last one you use.