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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #25 on: 04-09-19, 12:32AM »
Once every few months I'll get a full 17 on a night run and one of those 17 drop runs had 67 ambient trays.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #26 on: 04-09-19, 01:31PM »
I used to work as a driver until 2009. Had 15 drops every time I went out. Twice a day. Staircases were the norm. Yes some of them were bloody hard work but you just got on with it. Can't comment on the routing systems you've got now obviously, but even back then we'd have drivers complaining cos they had to zig-zag about.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #27 on: 04-09-19, 06:23PM »
I think the zig-zags are much better, except for the odd one where someones time slot doesnt quite match up. The big problem that we have in my store is the thing not accounting for traffic, at the end of a wave we'll be 15-20miles from store and would take 20-30mins to get back down the motorway but instead bumblebee will force us through the centre of town to do one drop which is less miles but with the traffic will double the time it takes to get back to the store

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #28 on: 11-09-19, 08:28PM »
Has anyone been told...do not log on your device till 5 minutes to the hour ?? Ie  8/9 am..as if download your run. Early...it er screws up the so called system ???

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #29 on: 12-09-19, 08:36PM »
10 minutes before your departure time, it doesn't do much damage, its just for the reach usage reports

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« Reply #30 on: 12-09-19, 09:36PM »
Oh.and cannot go into .comedy before 5 min to the hour.and cannot clock in before 5 mins to the hour..cos our er .manager do.s not want driver.s milling  about the dept..oh yes..we have a strange one..also a uniform inspection....( dont even go there )..before we go out...

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #31 on: 12-09-19, 09:37PM »
Just like being at school again.

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« Reply #32 on: 13-09-19, 08:56AM »
Clocking in early affects the store overtime. It's a blip in the system, on the old system it was and still is amended on exceptions. So you are generating extra work for the wages clerk every time you do so. On the tablet, even though it's amended on executions it shows as overtime, even though you are not paid for it. It might be because executions are not yet on the tablet and when this happens it will be a tablet fix but for now if you are clocking in early it comes out of the whole store overtime budget so Depts will be getting overtime cut if a lot of people in your store all do this.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #33 on: 13-09-19, 10:29PM »
We have bin told we are in amber?? Should be red ?? Or whatever colour..do the /our management  ( joke) get a bonus for keeping  us in the top tier  ??

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #34 on: 14-09-19, 11:10AM »
All managers are on performance related pay, miss - hit - exceed. Store manager is only one to get bonus. Targets have to be hit, pay is fine balance as can't underspend, this is bigger issue than overspending. They used to have to save money and bank it for Christmas etc but this no longer is the case, so no point in doing so.
It's all about the work done on the tablet. If someone rings in sick and they are back filled but not taken out the tablet it is an overspend. By just removing from the tablet it balances things again. Have to do the work on the tablet, not just exceptions. The two systems don't fully talk to each other but not all things that are planned for the tablet have been launched yet.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #35 on: 14-09-19, 11:16AM »
Clocking in early affects the store overtime. It's a blip in the system, on the old system it was and still is amended on exceptions. So you are generating extra work for the wages clerk every time you do so. On the tablet, even though it's amended on executions it shows as overtime, even though you are not paid for it. It might be because executions are not yet on the tablet and when this happens it will be a tablet fix but for now if you are clocking in early it comes out of the whole store overtime budget so Depts will be getting overtime cut if a lot of people in your store all do this.

So no longer expected to be in the department, ready for work at start of shift time, as you're stood by clocking in machine, in a queue, with everyone else on that start time  ;) God help you all when the "EXECUTIONS" kick in on the tablet, think that's taking time keeping to the extreme  :o
« Last Edit: 14-09-19, 11:20AM by lucgeo »
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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #36 on: 14-09-19, 01:12PM »
Lucgeo.

I have spent the last 5 Saturdays adding up the early clock-ins for all the store colleagues as a result of this. The first few weeks there were approximately 70+ hours as a result of early clocks. This week the total is down to 30+. Yes, I agree its totally stupid but this is what HO want. Who are we to argue?   

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« Reply #37 on: 14-09-19, 02:45PM »
So if they clock out after their time, do they automatically get paid overtime, or is it still only when the % of the hour has been reached? With all the delays people face in clocking out on time, that must also be a regular occurrence?
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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #38 on: 14-09-19, 08:20PM »
The HR system only works/pays in multiples of 15 minutes so if someone clocks out late by a couple of minutes the system ignores it.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #39 on: 15-09-19, 09:49AM »
So if they clock out after their time, do they automatically get paid overtime, or is it still only when the % of the hour has been reached? With all the delays people face in clocking out on time, that must also be a regular occurrence?

It's a blip in the system. You only get paid if authorised on exceptions but the tablet adds the time into overtime used. It's the two systems not fully talking to each other yet. The tablet is not yet doing exceptions and this should resolve once it does.
As for unauthorised overtime generally, the rule has always been not paid unless authorised. It is controlled, always has been. Your manager(s) have always requested overtime. It used to be on paper and it's now on the tablet. They then need to spend the overtime where it is needed. If you clock in early or clock out late it is up to the manager if the sign to say paid on exceptions. They might is spare funds they have not used but since the tablet has been in action it is tighter than it used to be.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #40 on: 15-09-19, 10:19AM »
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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #41 on: 15-09-19, 03:44PM »
Clocking in early affects the store overtime. It's a blip in the system, on the old system it was and still is amended on exceptions. So you are generating extra work for the wages clerk every time you do so. On the tablet, even though it's amended on executions it shows as overtime, even though you are not paid for it. It might be because executions are not yet on the tablet and when this happens it will be a tablet fix but for now if you are clocking in early it comes out of the whole store overtime budget so Depts will be getting overtime cut if a lot of people in your store all do this.
Thankfully they don’t execute in our store, not yet anyway 😂

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #42 on: 15-09-19, 04:32PM »
Clocking in early affects the store overtime. It's a blip in the system, on the old system it was and still is amended on exceptions. So you are generating extra work for the wages clerk every time you do so. On the tablet, even though it's amended on executions it shows as overtime, even though you are not paid for it. It might be because executions are not yet on the tablet and when this happens it will be a tablet fix but for now if you are clocking in early it comes out of the whole store overtime budget so Depts will be getting overtime cut if a lot of people in your store all do this.

So no longer expected to be in the department, ready for work at start of shift time, as you're stood by clocking in machine, in a queue, with everyone else on that start time  ;) God help you all when the "EXECUTIONS" kick in on the tablet, think that's taking time keeping to the extreme  :o

That's another aisle left unworked  >:D

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #43 on: 15-09-19, 06:56PM »
Surely everyone who works in store should clock in as soon as they get in. If there is an evacuation for any reason,you need to know if the building is empty. Firefighters may have to risk their lives looking for people who are unaccounted for.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #44 on: 16-09-19, 12:07AM »
What you clock for today shows on the exceptions tomorrow. You can look at what time someone has clocked in today but it is not something you would do in case of afire as you would have to log in, print reports and then take them with you.   Many years ago we used to have to sign in, and clock. The sign in report was taken out by the receptionist in the event of a fire, back in the day when we had someone sat on reception. Report is only as good as the people who use it. We have people fail to sign in, people who went home for lunch that did not sign out. I think that is why it went.

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Re: Updated Bumblebee
« Reply #45 on: 18-09-19, 06:20AM »
Had a delivery last night in Manchester and the poor guy was huffing and puffing.
Too stressed out to be driving. But i guess the company doesn’t give a t*ss about
the well-being of it’s staff.🤔