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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #525 on: 07-05-18, 08:14PM »
@GreenGrocer

that depends on how many of us they believe are actively watching.

for those who would like to tell the courts and tesco that they are being watched, here is the petition. Remember you do not have to work for tesco in order to show your support.

https://www.change.org/search?q=tesco%20equal
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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #526 on: 05-07-18, 12:31PM »
Have you guys heard about this? https://payjustice.co.uk/go/ec-tesco-sign-up/

It seems to be the same as the Asda claim, diff in pay between distribution and shop floor staff. The more who join, higher our chances are in getting equal pay! Please let others know too!!!  :thumbup:

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« Reply #527 on: 05-07-18, 02:10PM »
How does the chances get higher if more join ?  I cant see that , but I could be Missing something ,
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« Reply #528 on: 05-07-18, 02:57PM »
How does the chances get higher if more join ?  I cant see that , but I could be Missing something ,

think its more likely to go through if more people stand up against Tesco!  :P

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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #529 on: 09-07-18, 06:58PM »
Arrived today ...

"Tesco’s defence to equal pay now received

We have now received and considered the defence from Tesco in respect of the equal pay claims that we are bringing for Store workers.

As we expected Tesco has denied having an equal pay problem.

Tesco has brought Usdaw’s involvement in all pay negotiations into the spotlight by arguing that Usdaw negotiates pay in relation to the Stores and Distribution Centres separately and while this is true, it does not provide Tesco with a defence. It remains our view, supported by evidence, that Tesco is ultimately responsible for all pay decisions and that they have to power to resolve the issue, should they wish to do so. If Tesco wanted to equalise pay between Stores and Distribution Centres they could do so right now.   

What Tesco’s defence does highlight is that Usdaw has some serious questions to answer about its role in the pay inequality. We will be taking steps to obtain information from Usdaw as well as Tesco around those pay negotiations.

Tesco also says that Store workers cannot compare themselves to Distribution Centre workers as different employment contractual terms apply to each. We remain satisfied that the appeal court decisions about comparisons in equal pay cases do allow Tesco Store workers to compare against Distribution Centres workers. 

Tesco go on to say, that even if you can lawfully compare your roles (and we say you can), that the work you do is not of ‘equal value’ to that undertaken in Distribution Centres. This is the heart of case and we are not surprised to see Tesco say as much. We fundamentally disagree with Tesco on this point. As we have said before, it is the Tribunal, assisted by Independent Experts, who ultimately decide whether the work is of ‘equal value’. It is not up to Tesco to decide.

They also say that they have to pay Distribution Centre workers more in order to attract people to apply for that type of work. And as a final defence, they argue that lower wages in Stores keeps them more competitive in the supermarket industry. This is an interesting point by Tesco bearing in mind our research shows that Aldi and Lidl pay Store workers and Distribution Centre workers the same and they compete very well. 

Settlement

Rather than settling claims, which is common in group claims of this nature, Tesco’s lawyers have indicated to us that they are waiting for changes to the law to prevent employees from claiming as much as 6 years of back pay (5 years in Scotland) in an equal pay claim. The principle of Equal Pay in this country has been driven by the European Union and we think this is wishful thinking on their part whilst European Union law continues to apply. With Brexit increasingly closer, there is always a possibility that future governments might seek to reduce the amount of back pay that those with an equal pay claim can ask for, but this will not affect any claims that are brought before then. So your claims for a maximum of 6 years (5 years in Scotland) worth of back pay are safe.

In all, there is nothing of any concern in the defence raised by Tesco and it was exactly what we expected. "


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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #530 on: 09-07-18, 07:20PM »
tesco trying to blame usdaw after all that usdaw have done for them :P
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« Reply #531 on: 09-07-18, 07:33PM »
Oh dear, this and the current Sunday/BH cushion payment doesn’t help Tesco and more so Usdaw!

they argue that lower wages in Stores keeps them more competitive in the supermarket industry.

An admission that this reason mitigates our pay cuts with no compensation AND that Usdaw are in total alliance with them on this point.

Usdaw have a lot to answer for. It’s no surprise that ANY company will try and stagnate/reduce employees’ wages/terms and conditions. However, for a Union to endorse an outdated if not undemocratic means to agree a pay deal remains outrageous. Now they are placed in a position where they will truly be shown to be weak publicly.
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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #532 on: 10-07-18, 01:27AM »
And all those who thought the Union was worth fighting to change,  look at what you have endorsed.
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« Reply #533 on: 10-07-18, 11:35AM »
Trying to shift focus to USDAW was expected surely!

Of course they are going to draw reference to 2 completely different Pay review processes.

If you must talk about what has been Endorsed and who Endorsed it, then realistically both pay review processes have Endorsed themselves during all of the good years when negotiating members were happy to take the good pay awards without question or any mention of equal value.

I will agree with Loki and do sincerely hope the Retail PRP is shown up to be
un-democratic at least because it really does look like there isn’t any inclination to change the process from within it.

Having the right people on it also helps, I was suprised to see a clause accepted by the company, but it was a clause of acceptance from the workforce, in Last years Pay Negs 17/18, if any other negotiating group within Distribution were to be awarded more then it would apply to all, we are now looking to receive that extra, backdated.

Why wouldn’t I Endorse that Mentality that represents me!! I’d be a fool not to.


« Last Edit: 10-07-18, 11:44AM by Duracell »
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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #534 on: 11-07-18, 10:28PM »
Leigh Day has announced that it has now lodged the first 1000 equal pay claims against Tesco on behalf of female members of staff in potentially the largest ever equal pay challenge in UK history.
https://www.leighday.co.uk/News/News-2018/July-2018/Law-firm-announces-first-1000-equal-pay-claims-aga

11 July 2018

The legal action has been estimated as potentially costing the supermarket giant £4bn in compensation to workers.

According to the law firm they have received thousands more enquiries and expect the number of claims from Tesco staff, over the disparity in pay between store staff and those in the predominantly male dominated distribution centres, to continue to rise.

Following the announcement in February 2018 that the firm was taking this legal action, lawyers in the employment team at Leigh Day have hosted meetings across the country and created a specialist unit to handle calls from women and men who work in the stores and are paid considerably less than their colleagues in the distribution centres.

Paula Lee one of the lawyers handling the Tesco claims at Leigh Day, said: “We’ve had an incredible response to the announcement of this legal action. Many proud members of staff have realised that this claim is not anti-Tesco, but it is to ensure that the work done in stores and distribution centres is recognised as being of equal value; not the same work, but work of equal value and that they should be paid the same as their colleagues in distribution.

“Both store staff and distribution staff play an essential role in making billions of pounds for Tesco executives and shareholders, they should both be paid equally for what they contribute to the business.

“The concept of ‘women’s work’ is an outdated approach to employment from the middle of the last century which needs to be corrected.”
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Research by Leigh Day has found that people working in the predominantly male dominated Tesco distribution centres may earn in excess of £11.00 an hour whilst the most common grade for store staff sees them receive around £8.00 per hour.

This means a full-time distribution worker completing the same number of hours, earns over £100 a week or £5,000 a year more than female-based store staff.

The underpayment of workers could apply to over 250,000 Tesco employees, with estimated pay shortfalls that could reach £20,000. The final bill for Tesco could be as high as £4bn.

Alongside the claim against Tesco, Leigh Day is currently representing over 20,000 shop-floor workers in equal pay claims against fellow supermarket giants Sainsbury's and ASDA, which both face similar claims of discrepancies in pay between the male dominated distribution centres and the mainly female staffed stores.

Paula Lee continued:

"According to the latest Annual Report from Tesco the remuneration package for the Chief Executive Officer and the Chief Financial Officer totalled £6.3m, yet figures show that Tesco employees are having to claim millions of pounds in working tax credits, paying people fairly benefits the whole of society.”

Information was correct at time of publishing. See terms and conditions for further details.

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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #535 on: 11-07-18, 10:53PM »
May earn in excess of £11 pounds per hour!!!

Tell me the warehouse that pays an hourly rate of in excess of £11 per hour! Please!
Or are we talking a comparible hourly rate late 8’s Early 9’s with WHERE APPLICABLE AND AVAILABLE,  an incentive bonus creating an additional hourly element of pay dependant on performance. Which incidentally is not the Norm within Distribution.
 
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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #536 on: 12-07-18, 12:02AM »
I wish our distribution colleagues did earn that amount per hour, giving us an amount to aspire to! That exaggeration aside, well said Paula Lee !!

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Re: Equal Pay/Leigh Day /Tom Hewitt/
« Reply #537 on: 12-07-18, 12:48AM »
90% of our checkout operators could handle any sort of physical work in a warehouse. It is not comparible work.

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« Reply #538 on: 12-07-18, 02:23AM »
madness, do you mean couldn't? If you meant could, and I hope so, and therefore deserve equal to our distribution colleagues. If you are a distribution worker who goes home tired and aching every day, then I sympathise, because that's what I go through night after night! I am getting on a bit and finding it harder now. But, Tesco still need you to supply, me to fill and display, and my co-workers to take the money. What price each of us three?

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« Reply #539 on: 12-07-18, 07:32AM »
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« Reply #540 on: 12-07-18, 07:57AM »
Its not easy filling the shelves. I'm sure we are facing a lot of the same pressures that distribution are - high staff turnover and poor staffing levels.

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« Reply #541 on: 12-07-18, 10:45AM »
Avonmouth DC . Still have over 100 vacancies in DC. Please feel free to internal apply if you live in Bristol area. After all it's the same work isn't it???
However don't expect over £11 an hour. Rate is  £9-70 an hour. Sorry to disappoint.
 

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« Reply #542 on: 12-07-18, 10:55AM »
The staff hours/levels have been left to erode so much in our store, yet the night managers are still bullied into trying to finish the work each night despite not having the staff/hours to do the job! We used to have 3 and a half full time staff on my department, now 2 of us are expected to do the same job. Another hidden wage cut via Dave Lewis. He will leave with the place worse off and millions in pocket. kn**h**d!! Can the next C.E.O. get the staff behind him/her? Good luck with that one!

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« Reply #543 on: 12-07-18, 11:15AM »
I have joined the equal pay claim against Tesco & urge fellow shop floor workers to do the same. It is not just for women, it includes men who can submit a piggy back claim. After working for the company for 31 years I have lost double time, now time & a half. I have not been off sick for over 20 years even though I would get full sick pay, & have contributed to the prosperity of Tesco. Why should I get a lower rate of pay to distribution workers, as I am till trained, dot com trained, drag in delivery, split it & work it, just give me a broom & I'll insert it! Leigh Day have just won the first round of the Asda equal pay claim & believe they can do the same for us. The extra hourly rate of £3 per hour over 6 years would also have given us a bigger pension, which is included in the claim. It's no win no fee so you have nothing to lose.
I urge you all to join or would you rather see Dave Lewis get a bigger bonus doing a job that would not have been necessary if our leading executives had not possibly committed fraud.
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« Reply #544 on: 12-07-18, 11:26AM »
Retrokid, we need you to supply the stock, you need us to sell the stock, we both need Tesco to  make a profit to pay us a wage. If I lived near Bristol, I would consider it. As I don't, I won't. I would expect hard work at both.

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« Reply #545 on: 12-07-18, 12:12PM »
Blodwyn, you have been put through the mill, as have I, and I bet you loved working for Tesco years ago. But now managers and higher-ups see us as disposable, in favour of flexi-workers, we can do nothing but put up with it. I wish you luck with the Leigh Day thing, but the Tesco hierarchy will still find a way to minimum wage us all by 2020!

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« Reply #546 on: 12-07-18, 08:00PM »
Maybe distribution centre workers should get £11 an hour too.

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« Reply #547 on: 12-07-18, 08:59PM »
Blodwyn, you have been put through the mill, as have I, and I bet you loved working for Tesco years ago. But now managers and higher-ups see us as disposable, in favour of flexi-workers, we can do nothing but put up with it. I wish you luck with the Leigh Day thing, but the Tesco hierarchy will still find a way to minimum wage us all by 2020!

Absolutely!!! And an erroneous claim with the potential of £4 Billion will facilitate the fast track to it.
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« Reply #548 on: 12-07-18, 09:11PM »
I hope this equal pay claim is successful and there isn’t enough money to pay Dave his wages let alone the million rise he feels he merits after screwing young families over.  I told them I wasn’t doing any overtime a while ago because I never got paid correctly but the management offered me it again yesterday as if nothing had happened. We keep getting new staff who don’t last or should not pass the probationary time. Advertise this site in DC and stores so that people can decide if they want to mess about with this place.

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« Reply #549 on: 12-07-18, 09:12PM »
Blodwyn, you have been put through the mill, as have I, and I bet you loved working for Tesco years ago. But now managers and higher-ups see us as disposable, in favour of flexi-workers, we can do nothing but put up with it. I wish you luck with the Leigh Day thing, but the Tesco hierarchy will still find a way to minimum wage us all by 2020!

Absolutely!!! And an erroneous claim with the potential of £4 Billion will facilitate the fast track to it.

That’s a best case scenario lol
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