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Re: Managers pay
« Reply #25 on: 27-04-19, 07:50AM »
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Manager pay varies wildly from individual to individual. I'm in an 800k Superstore and our night lead gets 46k plus night premium, there will be others in very similar stores who'll be on 15k less.

Good job they are laying off people on less than 10k a year then who actually work.

Tbf he works his ar*e off, but I'm sure others on lower salaries work just as hard. As mentioned elsewhere, a lot depends on service / experience - he's been a night manager for 25 years.

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« Reply #26 on: 27-04-19, 08:27AM »
Any manager who is above the current pay scale do not get pay rises anymore until they are aligned with the new scale.

That was 2 pay negotiations ago. Back when almost half the pay rise pot was given to newly signed off managers and anyone above that was frozen...

Last pay rise L bandings were removed after the management consultancy company advised that the pay caps were pissing experienced managers off and causing Tesco a fair amount of brain drain.

Last pay rise for managers was for everyone equally across the board.,..

This pay rise is being negotiated as we speak. It's on the weekly planners that it's being worked on with any outcome due in (July? Sorry for my poor memory...)

Pay rises across the board are fair. Long terms managers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable and have earned higher wages through performance. Anyone s*** would have had missed reviews and be on the same rate for the year coming - far from the views in this forum managers generally aren't rewarded for failure...

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Re: Managers pay
« Reply #27 on: 27-04-19, 08:50AM »
Well said techsupporter. Failure is not rewarded. A Mgr can sometimes remain on the exact same pay for sometime. In theory they are meant to get 'managed' to become performers but who has time. In the past they just moved stores and they had another year of poor performance and the losing store was happy to see the back of them.

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« Reply #28 on: 27-04-19, 11:34AM »
I work in a superstore and I’m on 30k plus as a department manager and the lowest department manager is on 23.5k, It’s all to do with how long you have been with the company

I've heard the ceiling for department manager pay is 32k a year (not night managers) is that true?

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« Reply #29 on: 27-04-19, 11:50AM »
I don't know but the night TMs in our place are the biggest waste of money ever never on the shopfloor.

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« Reply #30 on: 27-04-19, 01:30PM »
I don't know but the night TMs in our place are the biggest waste of money ever never on the shopfloor.

What's funny is when good shop floor staff become managers they suddenly realise how much gets done away from the shop floor.

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« Reply #31 on: 27-04-19, 04:24PM »
 ;D

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« Reply #32 on: 27-04-19, 04:36PM »
So you think the night managers job is to fill an aisle all night long?

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« Reply #33 on: 27-04-19, 09:50PM »
What else is there to do if they don't fill.

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« Reply #34 on: 27-04-19, 10:45PM »
Yes! At least 80% of their shift should be filling and supporting colleagues in achieving a fill. All three night managers we had were useless tosspots who just stayed in the office on facebook and looking for cheap deals on holidays abroad because of their outrageous salaries whilst the GA'S worked their guts off for peanuts dreaming of a holiday to butlins if they was lucky to with the penny's they were given! Tesco should sack 90% of management and raise the GA wage.

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« Reply #35 on: 28-04-19, 11:03AM »
A manager should not be judged on filling shelves and is not in job description. In reality this is what happens though. A grocery manager should not work an aisle but should be checking on team, looking for trade opportunities, then all the rota, holidays part of job. They will be duty too and as often quiet at night they have that side of things to do too. How many managers in will depend on size of store but unless an extra it will probably be only one. I work in a superstore and there are only six eight managers in total, the store does not have a night team and in the mornings and evenings there is generally only one manager in and depending on hols etc there can be only one in all day. They don't need to spend all the time in the office, and shouldn't but they are not paid to fill shelves but most stores seem to run very tight on the grocery team so have to.

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« Reply #36 on: 28-04-19, 11:38AM »
A manager should be judged and shall be judged, that's what they're paid stupid money for! If a manager can't show a GA how to fill a aisle quickly, but can bark it, then as a manager you have failed! Biggest part of being a great manager is proving it can be done and also working as a team to get the job done! Sitting in a office all night then come out if it when the morning duty manager has arrived is no way to run a team. A manager is expected to do everything and more and that's the whole reason they are paid three times as much as the GA.

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« Reply #37 on: 28-04-19, 12:41PM »
They're definitely not paid 3x a full time ga, that's basically 49k a year they won't get that (unless they're top end express SM level or senior staff manager/entry superstore sm level). Most department managers nowadays are probably on just under double what a full time GA's on.

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« Reply #38 on: 28-04-19, 12:53PM »
Double would also be a generous  estimate, it would put them at over 30k and approaching the top end for line managers, I wouldn’t think it would be representative of most though.

Although as you say they certainty not on three times, that’s nonsense,  though it might sum up why this person is so bitter i.e. they’re f****ng delusional.

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« Reply #39 on: 28-04-19, 04:04PM »
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A night lead team manager is on 48k. A department manager is on 34k. Depends on how long your manager has been a manager. A new appointed manager may be on less.

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« Reply #40 on: 28-04-19, 04:34PM »
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.

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« Reply #41 on: 31-05-19, 05:39AM »
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.

I’m a lead night manager. I can confirm I’m nowhere near 48k. I do not fill anything, my job is to ensure it is filled correctly.

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« Reply #42 on: 31-05-19, 07:36AM »
You sir obviously , is not a team player. 

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« Reply #43 on: 31-05-19, 07:56AM »
A night lead team manager is on 48k. A department manager is on 34k. Depends on how long your manager has been a manager. A new appointed manager may be on less.

Yikes. I think this guys post is just to inflame a bit of banter against the management team and spread a bit of disinformation, next thing you'll see is our guys on the shop floor "Yeah I saw this guy on the internet who said this! It must be true!!!"

You'll get the occasional 48K night manager composed of night premiums and potentially someone who was displaced at a group level and got that position but kept Salary. That's a big stretch! More likely they have 50 years of service  :D

32K used to be the very absolute top pay bracket but inline with the last management consultation with an external company this was lifted, no idea what to. As I mentioned before this co-incided with the L bands being simplified across the business, if you don't know what they are and are a WL1 manager then get in contact with your people partner who can give you information that won't be butchered because I don't remember  :thumbup:.

The last pay rise a year ago, every manager got it. Even top paid - one last thing to note is that Pharmacy managers are also WL1 but get crazy ammounts above 32K, so there is scope in that band for higher.

Manager pay is a taboo in Tesco, and it really shouldn't be. The more information is out there and the better informed everyone is the more talent is going to push through for better rewards, motivate Great GA's to move on and encourage better collective bargaining.

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Re: Managers pay
« Reply #44 on: 31-05-19, 07:56AM »
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.

I’m a lead night manager. I can confirm I’m nowhere near 48k. I do not fill anything, my job is to ensure it is filled correctly.

You shouldn't have to either unless the store is short of staff and most of the time they are due to holidays, sickness and loss of staff which don't get replaced.

Another problem is some managers not actually managing their staff. p**s takers always get the easiest isles to fill and make them last the whole night and not a word is said and then they wonder why everyone is upset off and just not bothered anymore.

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Re: Managers pay
« Reply #45 on: 31-05-19, 08:27AM »
Why have a go at night managers! They certainly earn their pay at my store! Unlike Day managers especially senior team who are not worth their wages! Quick to criticise bit can't do the job themselves! They are a complete waste of money.

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« Reply #46 on: 31-05-19, 09:14AM »
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.

I’m a lead night manager. I can confirm I’m nowhere near 48k. I do not fill anything, my job is to ensure it is filled correctly.
Our lead does the same. We can send back 10 cages of backstock to warehouse. Face up aisle and say job done and he will not notice.

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« Reply #47 on: 31-05-19, 10:40AM »
A manager in my store who has always received a MET (green) hasn't had a pay rise for the last 4 years.  Surely this is discrimination as they had received previous pay rises based on performance and has over 30 years in the company.  How do the company reward these managers if they are on performance related pay.  Who would want to be a manager in Tesco nowadays.

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« Reply #48 on: 31-05-19, 10:52AM »
What sort of managers would be in the 70-80k a year bracket? I'm just comparing with other industries.

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« Reply #49 on: 31-05-19, 11:58AM »
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.

I’m a lead night manager. I can confirm I’m nowhere near 48k. I do not fill anything, my job is to ensure it is filled correctly.

You shouldn't have to either unless the store is short of staff and most of the time they are due to holidays, sickness and loss of staff which don't get replaced.

Another problem is some managers not actually managing their staff. p**s takers always get the easiest isles to fill and make them last the whole night and not a word is said and then they wonder why everyone is upset off and just not bothered anymore.

Sometimes they don’t even get an aisle and just walk about talking to the manager in another language. People should take a look at themselves before commenting on others at times.