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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3900 on: 17-04-19, 05:31PM »
Thought there was no full time posts
I know some have been giving full time

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3901 on: 17-04-19, 05:31PM »
28 years and taking redundancy and I have pre booked the whole week off from last year. Told I have accrued no holidays so may not be paid the full week so I have to “think” about cancelling them and working what I can.
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3902 on: 17-04-19, 05:40PM »
So if you have been job matched on sc are you job matched to your own department or any part of stock control

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3903 on: 17-04-19, 06:11PM »
Thought there was no full time posts
I know some have been giving full time


A girl at our store on 30hrs ended up with 32...madness :-X

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3904 on: 17-04-19, 07:58PM »
I had my meeting had to fill in an availability form asking what hours i could work and in what departments then what other stores I would could go too. After all that I was told nothing would be changing in my role at all not hours nor the times i start/finish. This whole process has left a very bitter taste.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3905 on: 17-04-19, 08:05PM »
To all colleagues that are leaving due to redundancy, don't forget to cancel your union subs....it would be nice to see that they will be losing all this money they've received from us and for what they have done for us....F@#k all.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3906 on: 17-04-19, 08:28PM »
I am full time & haven’t been job matched.  I’ve been given a list of available jobs, if I apply & get offered something will that mean I can no longer decide to take my redundancy?  Or have I got up until the end of the consultation process to change my mind?

You can do a four week trial on an offered different job to decide if you want it or not, then take redundancy if not suitable at the end of the four weeks. The trial has to be for four weeks, you cannot end it earlier than that.
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3907 on: 17-04-19, 08:30PM »
So if you have been job matched on sc are you job matched to your own department or any part of stock control

Any part of stock control, as long as the hours are reasonable and in your availability window.
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3908 on: 17-04-19, 08:36PM »
28 years and taking redundancy and I have pre booked the whole week off from last year. Told I have accrued no holidays so may not be paid the full week so I have to “think” about cancelling them and working what I can.

Whoa hang on......you have accrued a weeks frozen pay from when you started. It is based on the hours you did then, not now. It's what we used to call " week in hand"
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3909 on: 17-04-19, 08:54PM »
Thought there was no full time posts
I know some have been giving full time


A girl at our store on 30hrs ended up with 32...madness :-X

Some store managers are just using these changes as a way to take hours off some and give them to mates. Leaving the redundancy aside some fairness anywhere would be a start.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3910 on: 17-04-19, 09:17PM »
28 years and taking redundancy and I have pre booked the whole week off from last year. Told I have accrued no holidays so may not be paid the full week so I have to “think” about cancelling them and working what I can.

Whoa hang on......you have accrued a weeks frozen pay from when you started. It is based on the hours you did then, not now. It's what we used to call " week in hand"

Explain please

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3911 on: 17-04-19, 09:58PM »
I was told that the holiday would be paid at current rate and current hours

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3912 on: 18-04-19, 02:07AM »
28 years and taking redundancy and I have pre booked the whole week off from last year. Told I have accrued no holidays so may not be paid the full week so I have to “think” about cancelling them and working what I can.

Whoa hang on......you have accrued a weeks frozen pay from when you started. It is based on the hours you did then, not now. It's what we used to call " week in hand"

This was used up for most people when they went from being paid weekly to being paid 4 weekly !

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3913 on: 18-04-19, 05:11AM »
Anybodysguess.

Outstanding holidays are affected by when you started working for the company.

Copied this from the holiday policy.                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                         
 a) Accrued scheme
? Store Managers employed on or before 31/12/1983
? Level Two and above colleagues employed in the office and distribution on or before 31/12/1983
? Level One colleagues employed in the office on or before 31/12/1985
- N.B. Level One colleagues in distribution had their accrued holiday bought out in 1993, converting them to the current scheme
- N.B. In January 1986, when Level One colleagues moved from the Accrued scheme to the current scheme, colleagues from Winsford were an exception. These colleagues moved to the current scheme in January 1989.
? All colleagues employed in stores on or before 31/03/1991
These colleagues had no paid holiday in their first year of employment. Instead, they accrued an entitlement to paid holiday in one year which they were allowed to take in the following holiday year. When these colleagues leave Tesco they will have six weeks of holiday paid to them at their current rate of pay.
For specific information for Doncaster distribution colleagues, please see your site agreement.

b) Accrued frozen scheme
? All colleagues employed in stores between 1st April 1991 and 31st March 1992 (except for Store Managers)
These colleagues accrued a part year entitlement to holiday from the month they joined Tesco until the end of the holiday year (31st March). For example, a new starter joining in October accrued 8 days holiday (5 months but less than 6).
The part allowance was ‘frozen’ and will be paid to a colleague when they leave the company at their current rate of pay. The number of days will not be adjusted to reflect the number of days worked at the point of leaving, but will always reflect the number of days at the point they were earned.

c) Banking scheme
? All colleagues employed in stores between 6th October 1996 and 11th January 2003 (except for Store Managers)
These colleagues were not able to take any holiday in the first three months of employment and the holiday they earned (one week) was banked and will be paid to them when they leave Tesco at their current rate of pay. The number of days will not be adjusted to reflect the number of days worked at the point of leaving, but will always reflect the number of days at the point they were earned.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3914 on: 18-04-19, 05:59AM »
If you choose to apply for one of the new jobs are you classed as a new employee or an existing one

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3915 on: 18-04-19, 06:19AM »
Your contract, length of service etc...does not change....you are classed as existing colleague
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3916 on: 18-04-19, 09:17AM »
So I was not job matched, have had my 2nd consultation now were I was shown more vacancies than in the first meeting, showed an interest in one vacancy was told it didn't fit in with my availability but I could change my availability by one day which I agreed to, to then be "persuaded" to go over 2 departments that would fit my availability which I said OK but I would still like to apply for the first one just to cover my back. "Oh there is no need for that" so OK I didn't apply for it.  Come to work today to find out from another member of staff WHO IS NOT AFFECTED WHAT SO EVER BY THESE CHANGES that THEY have been offered the second job I was going to apply for but haven't as I was persuaded otherwise!!!

I am absolutely fuming! It should be affected colleagues only! This person gets on very well with the manager over the department he's been recommended for and I just feel like if I complain it will get me no were as its all very biased within stores anyway or I may loose out on the job I have gone for if I do put a complaint in and as for going to the union about it!
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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3917 on: 18-04-19, 09:58AM »
Was the offer in writing? Did you accept it in writing?

My instinct is that until the consultation is finished if they offer you a reasonable job you will not be entitled to redundancy... But, frankly, I would definitely go to citizens advice for free legal help.
If hours are being reduced then redundancy is offered

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3918 on: 18-04-19, 01:35PM »
Could someone please post an extract or a copy of the text which states how much protected pay support will be for those of us who have lost hours?

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3919 on: 18-04-19, 03:39PM »
Is it not for 2 years,with any pay rise in that 2 year period knocked off protected pay.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3920 on: 18-04-19, 03:43PM »
For pay protection, go to
Ourtesco
Policies for people
A to Z
Protection
This will let you download the policy and include a couple of examples of how it works.
Remember, it's your new pay that it's 25% of, NOT the difference.
Your current wage £300, your new wage is £200, 25% of £200 is £50, so you'll get £250.
Any pay rise will come out of the protected part of your wage, so new pay £200 + £50 protected pay = £250,
10% pay rise on your £200 = £220, +£30 protected pay, still get £250.
I'm not sure who in their right mind thought this up

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3921 on: 18-04-19, 04:01PM »
Has anyone been told to comfirm their intentions towards job interest or redundancy by the 19th of april and where do we stand on them increasing hours on jobs for people matched surely them hours should have been put into the pool at the start

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3922 on: 18-04-19, 04:23PM »
USDAW nodding dogs. Their reps will fill your head full of nonsense, truth is they are no where without our fees and need to be seen to support. They agreed this process  8-) It's all lip service. Many people impacted are being led up the garden path by dodgy union advice be careful they don't cost you.

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3923 on: 18-04-19, 04:31PM »
So can you be job matched to 2 part time roles makeing it full time with out any say

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Re: 2019 Structure Changes
« Reply #3924 on: 18-04-19, 04:34PM »
Can I just correct you on a few points please......

1.      reps don't receive any fees.
2.      Neither do they "need to be seen" to support.
3.      Which reps agreed to this process??  .I think you'll find only a very small minoriy were invited to the discussions.
4.      Looks like the head is already full of nonsense so no room for anymore
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