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Title: Managers pay
Post by: Blos12 on 14-04-19, 10:44AM
Does anyone know the pay bands for managers? E.g starting salary for a day manager, and a night manager? And how does it work with pay rises / negotiating pay after being appointed for a while?

If anyone has any info that’d great
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: DJL on 14-04-19, 11:09AM
Huge questions, although the bands have been reduced they are still quite complicated.

All based on store turnover and the role, length of time in job ect

If your a newly signed off manager and have met review, you should get decent pay rise % this year
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 14-04-19, 07:41PM
If you've been recently signed off, congratulations, as I was starting to think a CA taking the next step was a myth  ???.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 14-04-19, 08:27PM
Does anyone know the pay bands for managers? E.g starting salary for a day manager, and a night manager? And how does it work with pay rises / negotiating pay after being appointed for a while?

If anyone has any info that’d great

Department manager at superstore pays 24k-32k a year (21.6k while on options) Night Managers pay 30k-45k a year (depends on category store, department and experience)

Express Store Manager pays 26k-50k a year (23.4k a year while on options) (category store, department and experience)

Lead manager in superstore pays 38k-55k a year  (department and experience)

Area manager in express pays 55k - 70k a year (experience and size of area coverage

SOM convenience 38-50k a year (experience and area coverage) 

People Partners 42-55k a year (experience, qualifications and area coverage)

Superstore SM 70k-110k a year (based on experience and category store).
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Mrs sparrow on 14-04-19, 09:16PM
I'm a manager in an Extra and I would love to be on £24k. I'm not newly signed off, and I've always had good reviews.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 14-04-19, 09:24PM
Mrs Sparrow, if you don't mind me asking, how much are you on? Shift Leaders who work Sundays full time are on 20k a year, with a bit of overtime, they can easily make 22k a year, department managers being the next step up should be on at least 24k a year (unless you're on options and haven't been signed off meaning you'll be on 90% of 24k a year).
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Thailand on 14-04-19, 10:16PM
Your numbers are out massively,line managers start on 22k and lead on 30k,night line managers 22k plus 4100premium,lead night 30k plus 5100 premium.Store managers of superstore up start on 44k and will increase with the higher category store your in,each store has a pay bad for each role and if your above the pay band and get a met review you wont get a pay rise until the pay band catches up to your pay,people partners are on same pay bracket as lead managers and would start on 30k
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: TheHound on 14-04-19, 10:17PM
Does anyone know the pay bands for managers? E.g starting salary for a day manager, and a night manager? And how does it work with pay rises / negotiating pay after being appointed for a while?

If anyone has any info that’d great

Department manager at superstore pays 24k-32k a year (21.6k while on options) Night Managers pay 30k-45k a year (depends on category store, department and experience)

Express Store Manager pays 26k-50k a year (23.4k a year while on options) (category store, department and experience)

Lead manager in superstore pays 38k-55k a year  (department and experience)

Area manager in express pays 55k - 70k a year (experience and size of area coverage

SOM convenience 38-50k a year (experience and area coverage) 

People Partners 42-55k a year (experience, qualifications and area coverage)

Superstore SM 70k-110k a year (based on experience and category store).

What in the Seven Hells is a, "People Partner" and what do they do that justifies 42 - 55 grand a year? 8-)
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 14-04-19, 10:44PM
People partner is the rebranding of Personel Manager, and they have to know enough about employment law to protect the company, ideally they would have a CIPD accredited degree in Human Resources or similar (that would make them worth the high 40's-50) they also have to balance the interests of the company with resolving issues amongst staff in a way where everybody is satisfied with the outcome.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: optout on 15-04-19, 01:02AM
in my experience they s*** on staff more often than a budgie does on sandpaper. (anyone for cuttlefish?).
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: madness on 15-04-19, 01:30AM
Im on the higher end of the scale but I don't just live in my department box. If staff in dot com have an issue I help them ie a holiday query etc or sickness that needs covered in dairy I will try to sort it if the manager isn't around. Some managers don't do a thing for other deprtments then wonder why they are still on 21k.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: TheHound on 15-04-19, 06:18AM
People partner is the rebranding of Personel Manager, and they have to know enough about employment law to protect the company, ideally they would have a CIPD accredited degree in Human Resources or similar (that would make them worth the high 40's-50) they also have to balance the interests of the company with resolving issues amongst staff in a way where everybody is satisfied with the outcome.

Ah, the old Pointless Managers. The only people who do even less work than department managers. Which in itself is quite an achievement.

We have one who turns up ever couple of weeks, sits on her backside in the office for an afternoon, and manages - pun intended - to leave without talking to any real workers. Last time she was here, her sole contribution was to put up the notice telling staff about how the Rest Bite is being closed down and we can all live off microwave food. Yeah, she really earned her wage that day!
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Mangomuncher on 15-04-19, 06:28AM
Does anyone know the pay bands for managers? E.g starting salary for a day manager, and a night manager? And how does it work with pay rises / negotiating pay after being appointed for a while?

If anyone has any info that’d great

Department manager at superstore pays 24k-32k a year (21.6k while on options) Night Managers pay 30k-45k a year (depends on category store, department and experience)

Express Store Manager pays 26k-50k a year (23.4k a year while on options) (category store, department and experience)

Lead manager in superstore pays 38k-55k a year  (department and experience)

Area manager in express pays 55k - 70k a year (experience and size of area coverage

SOM convenience 38-50k a year (experience and area coverage) 

People Partners 42-55k a year (experience, qualifications and area coverage)

Superstore SM 70k-110k a year (based on experience and category store).
Where you getting this from??
I'm "New" to the role as several managers in my superstore we are all in 22.5k
Manager in superstore can go up to 29 it seems but they have been here forever.
The lead managers in my superstore are on 28+
Your pay rates look more like extra ( 24k+ manager and 30k+ senior)
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 15-04-19, 09:25AM
Shift leaders going from Express to department managers at superstore start on 24k a year (after completion of their options trial which should last 3 months, during which they recieve 90% of their salary (21.6k).

I'd imagine department managers being paid 22.5k must be only applicable in Metro stores because 24k is the minimum in superstore (any lower and it wouldn't be worth going from Shift Leader to Department Manager).
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Blos12 on 15-04-19, 01:44PM
Thank you for all your responses. Interesting to finally get some info
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: forrestgimp on 15-04-19, 06:37PM
When did they start paying options candidates?
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Mangomuncher on 15-04-19, 08:04PM
Shift leaders going from Express to department managers at superstore start on 24k a year (after completion of their options trial which should last 3 months, during which they recieve 90% of their salary (21.6k).

I'd imagine department managers being paid 22.5k must be only applicable in Metro stores because 24k is the minimum in superstore (any lower and it wouldn't be worth going from Shift Leader to Department Manager).
I'm in superstore and every bottom manager is on 22.5... I know people in extras starting on 24...
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: TechSupporter on 16-04-19, 03:18AM
@Forestgimp. Options candidates are only paid at 90% of sign off rate whilst they are on placement and delivering a manager role. They wouldn't be paid this month to simply complete a few works shops etc.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: filling-machine on 24-04-19, 02:18AM
Manager pay varies wildly from individual to individual. I'm in an 800k Superstore and our night lead gets 46k plus night premium, there will be others in very similar stores who'll be on 15k less.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: blitz on 25-04-19, 06:35PM
Coz he's old skool :)
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: forrestgimp on 25-04-19, 07:28PM
Manager pay varies wildly from individual to individual. I'm in an 800k Superstore and our night lead gets 46k plus night premium, there will be others in very similar stores who'll be on 15k less.

Good job they are laying off people on less than 10k a year then who actually work.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Kingdong on 26-04-19, 07:46PM
F**k managers pay rises.  What about us normal workers especially night shift, get screwed over all the time with pay rise.  And as for our 2.56% bonus, think it's a joke.  Company is making billions and that's what we get.  F**k the colleagues Drastic says.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: DJL on 26-04-19, 08:03PM
Hi king, you ok, sounding mad there?!  Chill out!

You get bigger wage % rise than I ever will, we will get the same bonus %, so although I get the reason behind your tone, it is not the ‘managers’ that make these decisions!
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: H20 on 26-04-19, 10:50PM
I work in a superstore and I’m on 30k plus as a department manager and the lowest department manager is on 23.5k, It’s all to do with how long you have been with the company
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Hammer10 on 27-04-19, 02:05AM
Any manager who is above the current pay scale do not get pay rises anymore until they are aligned with the new scale.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: filling-machine on 27-04-19, 07:50AM
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Manager pay varies wildly from individual to individual. I'm in an 800k Superstore and our night lead gets 46k plus night premium, there will be others in very similar stores who'll be on 15k less.

Good job they are laying off people on less than 10k a year then who actually work.

Tbf he works his ar*e off, but I'm sure others on lower salaries work just as hard. As mentioned elsewhere, a lot depends on service / experience - he's been a night manager for 25 years.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: TechSupporter on 27-04-19, 08:27AM
Any manager who is above the current pay scale do not get pay rises anymore until they are aligned with the new scale.

That was 2 pay negotiations ago. Back when almost half the pay rise pot was given to newly signed off managers and anyone above that was frozen...

Last pay rise L bandings were removed after the management consultancy company advised that the pay caps were pissing experienced managers off and causing Tesco a fair amount of brain drain.

Last pay rise for managers was for everyone equally across the board.,..

This pay rise is being negotiated as we speak. It's on the weekly planners that it's being worked on with any outcome due in (July? Sorry for my poor memory...)

Pay rises across the board are fair. Long terms managers tend to be more experienced and knowledgeable and have earned higher wages through performance. Anyone s*** would have had missed reviews and be on the same rate for the year coming - far from the views in this forum managers generally aren't rewarded for failure...
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: 5fdp on 27-04-19, 08:50AM
Well said techsupporter. Failure is not rewarded. A Mgr can sometimes remain on the exact same pay for sometime. In theory they are meant to get 'managed' to become performers but who has time. In the past they just moved stores and they had another year of poor performance and the losing store was happy to see the back of them.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 27-04-19, 11:34AM
I work in a superstore and I’m on 30k plus as a department manager and the lowest department manager is on 23.5k, It’s all to do with how long you have been with the company

I've heard the ceiling for department manager pay is 32k a year (not night managers) is that true?
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Overworked1 on 27-04-19, 11:50AM
I don't know but the night TMs in our place are the biggest waste of money ever never on the shopfloor.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: madness on 27-04-19, 01:30PM
I don't know but the night TMs in our place are the biggest waste of money ever never on the shopfloor.

What's funny is when good shop floor staff become managers they suddenly realise how much gets done away from the shop floor.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Overworked1 on 27-04-19, 04:24PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: madness on 27-04-19, 04:36PM
So you think the night managers job is to fill an aisle all night long?
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Rick grimes on 27-04-19, 09:50PM
What else is there to do if they don't fill.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: T2019sackallmanagers on 27-04-19, 10:45PM
Yes! At least 80% of their shift should be filling and supporting colleagues in achieving a fill. All three night managers we had were useless tosspots who just stayed in the office on facebook and looking for cheap deals on holidays abroad because of their outrageous salaries whilst the GA'S worked their guts off for peanuts dreaming of a holiday to butlins if they was lucky to with the penny's they were given! Tesco should sack 90% of management and raise the GA wage.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: Redshoes on 28-04-19, 11:03AM
A manager should not be judged on filling shelves and is not in job description. In reality this is what happens though. A grocery manager should not work an aisle but should be checking on team, looking for trade opportunities, then all the rota, holidays part of job. They will be duty too and as often quiet at night they have that side of things to do too. How many managers in will depend on size of store but unless an extra it will probably be only one. I work in a superstore and there are only six eight managers in total, the store does not have a night team and in the mornings and evenings there is generally only one manager in and depending on hols etc there can be only one in all day. They don't need to spend all the time in the office, and shouldn't but they are not paid to fill shelves but most stores seem to run very tight on the grocery team so have to.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: T2019sackallmanagers on 28-04-19, 11:38AM
A manager should be judged and shall be judged, that's what they're paid stupid money for! If a manager can't show a GA how to fill a aisle quickly, but can bark it, then as a manager you have failed! Biggest part of being a great manager is proving it can be done and also working as a team to get the job done! Sitting in a office all night then come out if it when the morning duty manager has arrived is no way to run a team. A manager is expected to do everything and more and that's the whole reason they are paid three times as much as the GA.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: NightAndDay on 28-04-19, 12:41PM
They're definitely not paid 3x a full time ga, that's basically 49k a year they won't get that (unless they're top end express SM level or senior staff manager/entry superstore sm level). Most department managers nowadays are probably on just under double what a full time GA's on.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: alf on 28-04-19, 12:53PM
Double would also be a generous  estimate, it would put them at over 30k and approaching the top end for line managers, I wouldn’t think it would be representative of most though.

Although as you say they certainty not on three times, that’s nonsense,  though it might sum up why this person is so bitter i.e. they’re f****ng delusional.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: T2019sackallmanagers on 28-04-19, 04:04PM
Global Moderator Comment Please do not quote immediately prior post(s).

No retards! A night lead team manager is on 48k. A department manager is on 34k. Depends on how long your manager has been a manager. A new appointed manager may be on less.
Title: Re: Managers pay
Post by: alf on 28-04-19, 04:34PM
Oh please, you have literally chosen one of the highest paid lead management positions in a store in order to justify your silly claims, the vast majority of managers are no where near that figure. 

There are some store managers getting around 6 digits i.e. 100k. but it would be absolutely delusional  to then say management get 6 times what GA's get, as it's clearly not representative of the various levels of management in a store.