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Title: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 15-05-19, 07:26AM
Our dept has 7 staff, only 1 of whom is on a flexi contract.
Yet all of us are being asked to do extra shifts to cover holidays as the latest master plan doesn't allow for it to be done any other way (apparently).

I have said I will not be doing extra shifts to cover holidays although I will change days or times, if I can, when needed.

I admit I'm getting on a bit (although I'm not 82) and I don't fancy ending up like Grocer Jack - working non stop til I snuff it with demands to get into work still ringing in my ears.

https://youtu.be/0rExhxkX-Ic
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: captain on 15-05-19, 09:40AM
I have always said each person has their own individual needs, so NEED the extra money and are desperate for the extra pay and shifts.
I'm a bit like you tumshie, getting on a bit, I don't have money worries but as I don't have mega commitments i.e. childcare, parent care etc I am more than happy to swap shifts as I find that whenever I want a favour back my manager will endeavour to accommodate
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: an_anon on 15-05-19, 01:22PM
If you want to do the extra shifts do them, if not, don't.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 15-05-19, 02:46PM
That's exactly what I'm doing, an_anon, but it's astonishing how convinced the dept manager seemed to be that we'd all feel we have to do extra shifts just because Tesco has arranged for the dept to have no cover.

(Dept manager is running round like a headless chicken, trying to work shifts in their 3 depts. More fool them.  :P )
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: an_anon on 15-05-19, 04:46PM
I feel sorry for those staff that feel pressured into doing anything that they don't want to and maybe don't have the confidence to question what they are told.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: penguin on 15-05-19, 05:50PM
Tesco love people who are to weak, unsure, or whatever to question managers and what said managers tell them to do, I used to work with a young man in my previous store who would work silly hours for "time back" that he hardly ever got because he was not the most confident person and would not dare stand up to the management. I did speak up on his behalf on one occasion reply from manager was "well mate if XXXX wants to make a good impression he better keep on with the extra hours, the lad is new and needs to prove himself" 
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: NightAndDay on 15-05-19, 07:44PM
Ever since I've got my new job which pays more than my SM, I stay at Tesco as a reminder that he really is a numpty for passing me up on promotion.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 15-05-19, 10:26PM
Tbf, the managers in our store are not too bad but they swallow the garbage that comes from above and expect us all to do the same.

It's true that younger staff are less likely to have the confidence to challenge them.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Overworked1 on 16-05-19, 02:55PM
Why would you challenge anything when only doing a few day at most a week. Why raise issues if full time and experience they'll do nothing anyway. The management get paid more and most don't care.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 16-05-19, 08:15PM
I meant, challenge them about pressuring you to do extra hours, above those you are contracted to. And that could include a flexi contract and its availability window.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: penguin on 16-05-19, 09:18PM
Why would you challenge anything when only doing a few day at most a week. Why raise issues if full time and experience they'll do nothing anyway. The management get paid more and most don't care.

Regardless of how many hours one works, why should bullying be ignored and that is what putting undue pressure on people to work extra hours comes down to, nothing wrong in managers asking but no should be a final answer, sadly in Tesco that tends not to be the case.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Overworked1 on 17-05-19, 09:06AM
In our store the flexi staff are allowed to say "no" to overtime when they want despite them having a clause in the contract that they should be able to do up to 30+ hours as long as the manager gives them a set amount of notice for overtime. If i was flexi I would do 30+ hours once and then keep telling them "no" reminding them I am fully flexible because I am prepared to do overtime when it suits both them and me. It is a 2 way thing people have to remember. Afterall what is the point in having people in who dont want to be. Tesco win out the low hour flexi contracts because they don't have to pay as much sick pay when people go off etc.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: an_anon on 18-05-19, 01:45PM
I think the original point is that there is going to be a lot of coercing and generally underhand tactics used by desperate managers from now on as the wafer thin workforce is pulled hither and thither to plug the leaking ship that has drifted off course with many experienced hands lost overboard. Excuse the nautical analogy.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Haddenhamoaner on 19-05-19, 05:04AM
So, given the nautical theme, given his reputation will Drastic Dave be known as Master Bates?
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Overworked1 on 19-05-19, 08:29AM
The team managers are paid extra to plug the holes. Drastic you'd be aswell renaming them Dildos and giving them all £1 less an hour. >:D
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 26-05-19, 02:04PM
The line usually taken by my dept manager is "I need X shifts covered this week, can you do any of them?" Or "Egbert is doing Monday & Hermione is taking Wednesday, can you do Friday?".
Trying to get staff to think about one shift, or one week, at a time - in hopes they won't notice that this is happening nearly every week.

No harm in asking, as a pp said, but then they look shocked by the answer "No" and say "Well, that's how we have to do it. The HotShot Plan says so."

Yeah, right.  >:D
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Overworked1 on 26-05-19, 02:53PM
Why is your manager discussing Egbert and Hermione with you. If you wanted overtime in my old place they just allowed you to do the same extras every week until they said you couldn't. If they got the stock levels fixed in most stores they would find they are overstaffed even on contract hours. For others maybe if people stopped doing the overtime they would be forced to get more staff. If they can only offer you sporadic shifts when Egbert can't be arsed or Harmoine is off sick it is time to say "no" to all. I stopped doing overtime when they couldn't get my wages right. Alot of people that did overtime previously do not bother because they don't see why they should help a manager or the business that has been nothing but unappreciative.
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Haddenhamoaner on 26-05-19, 03:15PM
Great comment, I always worked  overtime on Bank Holidays but no more, the current rate of pay is unacceptable and  my time  is worth more than time n a quarter! 
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: tumshie on 26-05-19, 03:28PM
They're hoping I'll want to join in the team effort to get the shifts covered, if they mention what the others are doing. :D
Title: Re: Grocer Jack
Post by: Overworked1 on 26-05-19, 03:43PM
"team" :question: :'( ;D