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Title: Restructuring J14
Post by: Jane doe on 11-02-19, 02:10PM
Thank you for info on j-14 :)
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Littlething on 11-02-19, 02:47PM
What is the info?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: kazza g on 11-02-19, 03:23PM
Job 14 is going.Apparently reductions are going to happen at the check out
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: DJL on 11-02-19, 04:02PM
Job 14 is going.Apparently reductions are going to happen at the check out

Where did you hear this from??

This is not accurate, at least for Large Stores, maybe different in convenience!
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Foodfighter on 11-02-19, 04:31PM
Yeah agree how would reductions be done at checkouts they are always trying to speed that process up
 Also customers would not buy it without a yellow  label on, not in my store anyway..
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Nomad on 11-02-19, 04:36PM
Administrator Comment Not sure why another thread has been started on restructuring. I have re-titled it to be for J14 only, please keep it to that.

VLH Supporters can if they wish start topics for specific areas but please define it in the titled of the topic.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: londoner83 on 11-02-19, 04:41PM
A large volume of reduction shoppers seek out yellow labels and I think it will be hard to change the customer mindset.  However, I think a key part of the government reducing  food waste strategy is to remove dates from as much as possible.

Less dates (already quite common area Produce) will lead to less hours on PR.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: kazza g on 11-02-19, 05:01PM
Job 14 is going.Apparently reductions are going to happen at the check out

Where did you hear this from??

This is not accurate, at least for Large Stores, maybe different in convenience!
Its what I got told today from sm.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: OfcourseIlovemyjob on 11-02-19, 05:51PM
I do  j 14 in a superstore, had my meeting this morning and told  that my job is safe.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Storck on 11-02-19, 05:53PM
Job 14 is going.Apparently reductions are going to happen at the check out

Where did you hear this from??

This is not accurate, at least for Large Stores, maybe different in convenience!
[/quoteIts what i got told today from sm


What type of store are you?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Fudge340 on 11-02-19, 06:16PM
First reductions are going and potential reductions now done by 10 changing in week 1 onwards express store
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Manfrommars on 11-02-19, 06:20PM
We got told that they are trialling date code embedded barcodes, but for now the only PR change is a reduction in the amount of hours for the produce scan, which is expected due a large amount of the products having dates removed.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Foodfighter on 11-02-19, 09:00PM
Seems to me all stores are different.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: londoner83 on 12-02-19, 08:39AM
Is anyone on here part of the barcode embedded trial? How is it going?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Red65 on 12-02-19, 09:08AM
Maybe a silly question, what is J14??
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: DJL on 12-02-19, 09:17AM
Potential reduction Red65, back in the day the store routines were given Job numbers
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Tornado on 12-02-19, 09:45AM
Potential reduction Red65, back in the day the store routines were given Job numbers
Where can we find this information about Job numbers ? Is the Job Code reference on payslip the same ?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: DJL on 12-02-19, 10:14AM
No it’s old school terminology! The job ‘codes’ don’t actually exist, if you were with company for a long time it’s how the routines were described.

You will not find any details about ‘job codes’ as they don’t exist anymore
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Tornado on 12-02-19, 11:12AM
Hi, why are they keeping these codes on payslips if they don't exist  any more ?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: DJL on 12-02-19, 11:17AM
They don’t!
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Red65 on 12-02-19, 11:38AM
Potential reduction Red65, back in the day the store routines were given Job numbers

Thankyou 😀
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 12-02-19, 12:23PM
Ahh good old Job14. I shall miss you.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Tornado on 12-02-19, 12:58PM
They don’t!
Hi again, what you mean "They don't " when I have got it on my payslip ?
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 12-02-19, 01:05PM
Job14 is the okd name for potential reductions. Its old school terminology and no task or routine in store now is allocated a number.

This is altogether separate to the codes on payslips.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: 80377494 on 12-02-19, 03:12PM
Tornado.
The job codes are changing, there is no change to pay or responsibilities, just a change to the codes. The one on your payslip is your current job code, it will change if you are one of the affected colleagues. . In my store there were only about 40 colleagues affected.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: 80377494 on 12-02-19, 03:13PM
Tornado.

Job 14 is the old name for Potential Reductions, it has no affect on your pay or anything to do with your own job code.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: blitz on 12-02-19, 03:49PM
The dates will be embedded in the barcode and a system will know if you have sold that item was that date then will generate a report he got to go and find it
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: chris9997 on 12-02-19, 04:22PM
We got told that they are trialling date code embedded barcodes, but for now the only PR change is a reduction in the amount of hours for the produce scan, which is expected due a large amount of the products having dates removed.
  Is this really true or pie in the sky trialling date code embedded date codes would be very expensive to implement for example each case of product would have to have a unique bar code on each product for example each pizza in a  case of pizzas delivered to store today would have the same bar code but tomorrows delivery would have a different barcode for the same product if date was different.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 12-02-19, 04:24PM
True I believe. We were told about it today in our department brief from SM.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Foodfighter on 12-02-19, 04:32PM
Google embedded date barcodes tesco. App been trialed in 40 stores in scotland ..
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: captain on 12-02-19, 05:26PM
So if that was job 14, what were the previous 13?
Here's a couple of ideas

Job1 do as I say and not as I do

Job2 no idle chit chat on the shop floor, unless you are a manager

Job3 no checking football results during your shift, unless you are a manager

Any other ideas?

Global Moderator Comment Considering people have concerns/worries we should keep this topic for its intended purpose.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: panther on 12-02-19, 07:13PM
You covered everything in job1  :-X ;)
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: StinkyPoo on 12-02-19, 07:20PM
So if the date is embedded in the bar code and the bar code is different for every different date does that mean the sels will need changing continuously as the ean may be different??? Or will the different barcodes be added to the ean? Seems complicated and reliant on the technology working!
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Lunamoonhare on 12-02-19, 08:09PM
Not sure how the embedded date barcodes work. Id be interested to know more.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Victor on 12-02-19, 08:55PM
It'll be a longer barcode. You can embed anything you like in a barcode in theory.
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Tornado on 13-02-19, 10:25AM
 
So if the date is embedded in the bar code and the bar code is different for every different date does that mean the sels will need changing continuously as the ean may be different??? Or will the different barcodes be added to the ean? Seems complicated and reliant on the technology working!
:D Look,  new technology and Tesco administration are the same both are involved in same mess and both are members of the "TRIALS"  an organization  to support  NO CLUE MEMBERS  for them to have the opportunity to show how useless they are .
Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: Walker on 13-02-19, 12:57PM
Hi, why are they keeping these codes on payslips if they don't exist  any more ?
Is pretty typical of Tesco. Job code can refer to two different things. In this case the job code on your payslip is refering to the job that you've been contracted to do. E.g. my job code is W03C which is daytime cashier. It is part of HRAM or Oracle, i.e. it is used to make sure that your hours are charged to the right department.

It used to also refer to particular routines in the shop. Job 14, for example, is potential reductions. This way of refering to routines ended years ago.

So if the date is embedded in the bar code and the bar code is different for every different date does that mean the sels will need changing continuously as the ean may be different??? Or will the different barcodes be added to the ean? Seems complicated and reliant on the technology working!

A barcode is just a way of representing a number.

At the moment the barcode contains only the EAN (the way of representing a particular item) but under the new system it would be a little longer in order to have additional information about the expiry date of the product.

The new barcode number would have in the machine readable bit:

[EAN] + [ DATE CODE]

but the bit that humans read would most likely just have the EAN as written presently, and you wouldn't need to change the shelf edge labels at all.

The implications of the new system is that the till could automatically warn the cashier if product was out of date at the till. Also, if it works properly, the system could keep a completely accurate list of product dates and so would know exactly which products needed to be reduced on each day.

Title: Re: Restructuring J14
Post by: GoLetItOut on 13-02-19, 02:46PM
Dont't think I've seen this shared yet, amongst other things, there is confirmation that "Date Embedded Barcodes" are in the pipeline and will have a significant impact on Potential Reductions which was not briefed to my store, but not likely going to happen for a year or more. Lots of these savings are store specific, so for example if you've not been told that your non food desk is closing by now, it probably isn't.

https://docdro.id/XwQ4PoJ

GoLetItOut



Hi, why are they keeping these codes on payslips if they don't exist  any more ?
Is pretty typical of Tesco. Job code can refer to two different things. In this case the job code on your payslip is refering to the job that you've been contracted to do. E.g. my job code is W03C which is daytime cashier. It is part of HRAM or Oracle, i.e. it is used to make sure that your hours are charged to the right department.

It used to also refer to particular routines in the shop. Job 14, for example, is potential reductions. This way of refering to routines ended years ago.

So if the date is embedded in the bar code and the bar code is different for every different date does that mean the sels will need changing continuously as the ean may be different??? Or will the different barcodes be added to the ean? Seems complicated and reliant on the technology working!

A barcode is just a way of representing a number.

At the moment the barcode contains only the EAN (the way of representing a particular item) but under the new system it would be a little longer in order to have additional information about the expiry date of the product.

The new barcode number would have in the machine readable bit:

[EAN] + [ DATE CODE]

but the bit that humans read would most likely just have the EAN as written presently, and you wouldn't need to change the shelf edge labels at all.

The implications of the new system is that the till could automatically warn the cashier if product was out of date at the till. Also, if it works properly, the system could keep a completely accurate list of product dates and so would know exactly which products needed to be reduced on each day.