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Title: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: BAD1 on 09-10-18, 05:44PM
The letter delivered by hand to my house today, says I have to attend an investigation meeting tomorrow with the security Team Manager and Admin colleague as note taker.
Do I need to attend because I am leaving in about less than 2 weeks time.
I haven't done anything wrong or illegal since I've been here 3 years now.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Me2015 on 09-10-18, 06:03PM
You still need to attend however I’d be telling them your leaving and pointing out the waste of time in going through with this from typing and delivering the letter to arranging note takers ect!
Unless it’s for Gross Misconduct it’s a waste of time! IMO
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: 1 on 09-10-18, 07:27PM
You have options

leave early
jump on the sick
or just go to the meeting

You could always adjourn the meeting once they've asked you the same question for the 100th time. Remember and take a Representative.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: madness on 09-10-18, 08:49PM
What have you not done but you are leaving because of anyway?
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Preacherpauly on 09-10-18, 08:52PM
The letter delivered by hand to my house today, says I have to attend an investigation meeting tomorrow with the security Team Manager and Admin colleague as note taker.
Do I need to attend because I am leaving in about less than 2 weeks time.
I haven't done anything wrong or illegal since I've been here 3 years now.

They must have something on you if they are calling you for a investigation meeting.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: OH on 10-10-18, 09:09AM
Has it occured to you that the investigation may not be about you?
You could simply be a potential witness to something else...
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Chojac2412 on 10-10-18, 09:34AM
If you leave before investigation you could be processed as "left during investigation" and if you require a reference it will state this
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: OH on 10-10-18, 12:18PM
If it really bothers you...

1) Attend the meeting. Act dumb for a few minutes, then adjourn to "seek advice" from your union which happens not to be USDAW. (All within policy).

2) Reconvene a few days later. After a few minutes, adjourn again to seek further advice from your union. (Again, within policy).

3) Repeat as necessary.

4) On leaving, insist that the unreliable, incomplete documentation is removed from your file.

It's all a game played by their rules. You just need to play the game better than them, while following their rules.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: BAD1 on 10-10-18, 01:21PM
Thanks for your replies guys.
Do I really have to go through their stupid rules, I am leaving in less than 2 weeks time plus I have a holiday booked and I don't really need any reference because I already got my new job secured.  Can I not do a 'sicky' for the last few days and ignore them? will they stop my next wages etc.

I also had to attend an investigation last month because some one made a complaint about me because they failed their Credit Check (yes I work in a Phone shop) so this will be another similar thing.  I think this is so stupid Tosco does not care about their staff.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Rad on 10-10-18, 02:51PM
You can withdraw your notice.  Of course they have to conduct the investigation.  You can even come back after you've left within a reasonable period of time to your old job, so yes they have to conduct the investigation.

Your wages won't be stopped.  But if your a 3 day wait time you wont be paid for sick leave. 
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: londoner83 on 10-10-18, 05:25PM
A investigation meeting is nothing to be afraid of. It's merely a evidence gathering exercise and may not be directly related to anything you have done. As said above you could be a named witness to a incident reported by someone else.

The hand delivered letter should spell out the reason for the meeting. I'd advise speaking to a rep as spelling out on here the grounds could destroy the anonymity of the site.

Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Preacherpauly on 10-10-18, 05:43PM
Thanks for your replies guys.
Do I really have to go through their stupid rules, I am leaving in less than 2 weeks time plus I have a holiday booked and I don't really need any reference because I already got my new job secured.  Can I not do a 'sicky' for the last few days and ignore them? will they stop my next wages etc.

I also had to attend an investigation last month because some one made a complaint about me because they failed their Credit Check (yes I work in a Phone shop) so this will be another similar thing.  I think this is so stupid Tosco does not care about their staff.

Go off sick until you leave. Nothing they can do
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Welshie on 10-10-18, 11:25PM
You should also check your new job offer is not "subject to references"
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-10-18, 12:02AM
Has it occured to you that the investigation may not be about you?
You could simply be a potential witness to something else...
the letter will state the reason for the investigation
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-10-18, 12:09AM
Thanks for your replies guys.
Do I really have to go through their stupid rules, I am leaving in less than 2 weeks time plus I have a holiday booked and I don't really need any reference because I already got my new job secured.  Can I not do a 'sicky' for the last few days and ignore them? will they stop my next wages etc.

I also had to attend an investigation last month because some one made a complaint about me because they failed their Credit Check (yes I work in a Phone shop) so this will be another similar thing.  I think this is so stupid Tosco does not care about their staff.
If I had a job secured I would leave now and tell them to stick their investigation where the sun don't shine.  It is illegal for them to withhold pay that you have already earned before you leave.  Just be happy that you're getting out of this company.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: tumshie on 11-10-18, 08:00AM
If you leave before investigation you could be processed as "left during investigation" and if you require a reference it will state this

So if an investigation is underway when someone leaves, they would be expected to come back till it's finished?
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Teddybonkers on 11-10-18, 12:41PM
You can't be serious - its not the CID for heavens sake.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: madness on 11-10-18, 06:20PM
Nobody has asked and the op hasn't said but maybe they are guilty of whatever the investigation is about and are leaving due to it? No manager chooses to do an investigation it takes up time they would rather be doing other things.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lackofinterest on 11-10-18, 06:41PM
your last paragraph doesnt apply in our store. some are trying their hardest to find things to investigate
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: VladPutin on 11-10-18, 07:01PM
Go to the meeting.

Refuse to answer any questions.

Masturbate.

Since you don't need the job or even a reference, you may as well have some fun. >:D
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lucgeo on 11-10-18, 07:49PM
And then promptly get  arrested for indecent exposure,and conducting a lewd act in public  :-X  :-X
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: penguin on 11-10-18, 08:58PM
Nobody has asked and the op hasn't said but maybe they are guilty of whatever the investigation is about and are leaving due to it? No manager chooses to do an investigation it takes up time they would rather be doing other things.

First thing our new sm said when he arrived to all management and team supports was, if your not investigating at least one person right now then I feel your not doing your jobs and ill investigate you. And from how he has gone on so far he was not joking or showing off as he's had at least half the management team over it.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: 1 on 11-10-18, 10:51PM
your last paragraph doesnt apply in our store. some are trying their hardest to find things to investigate

lackofinterest

Don't usually agree with you but you are spot on this time. The managers watch people on cameras waiting on them tripping up. It is the time the investigations take too. Have been to these and they can take hours as the investigator asks the same question 100 times. The rep can be present for the full time being paid for a signature at the end. Things that were once ignored are now the crime of the century. It just leads to increased sickness hours and alot of paperwork. All so that a manager can say he/she done more than walk about for a shift. They create problems for themselves at times.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: VladPutin on 11-10-18, 11:35PM
And then promptly get  arrested for indecent exposure,and conducting a lewd act in public  :-X  :-X

Claim you have converted to Islam and were experiencing a, "sexual emergency". The police will apologise to you and arrest the person who called them on suspicion of committing a, "Hate Crime" ;)
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: VladPutin on 11-10-18, 11:39PM
Nobody has asked and the op hasn't said but maybe they are guilty of whatever the investigation is about and are leaving due to it? No manager chooses to do an investigation it takes up time they would rather be doing other things.

First thing our new sm said when he arrived to all management and team supports was, if your not investigating at least one person right now then I feel your not doing your jobs and ill investigate you. And from how he has gone on so far he was not joking or showing off as he's had at least half the management team over it.

Lol, what a tw*t.

And managers wonder why no one respects them. 8-)
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: captain on 12-10-18, 05:18PM
Nobody has asked and the op hasn't said but maybe they are guilty of whatever the investigation is about and are leaving due to it? No manager chooses to do an investigation it takes up time they would rather be doing other things.

First thing our new sm said when he arrived to all management and team supports was, if your not investigating at least one person right now then I feel your not doing your jobs and ill investigate you. And from how he has gone on so far he was not joking or showing off as he's had at least half the management team over it.
same is going on in our store, loads and loads of investigations for petty things, its as if store managers have been given "targets" now we have a quicker and leaner disciplinary process
On a plus side 2 of our most laziest people are no longer employed by Tesco and a third is on a final written so if this new procedure is done correctly then it will clear out the deadwood
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lackofinterest on 12-10-18, 05:51PM
your last paragraph doesnt apply in our store. some are trying their hardest to find things to investigate

lackofinterest

Don't usually agree with you but you are spot on this time. The managers watch people on cameras waiting on them tripping up. It is the time the investigations take too. Have been to these and they can take hours as the investigator asks the same question 100 times. The rep can be present for the full time being paid for a signature at the end. Things that were once ignored are now the crime of the century. It just leads to increased sickness hours and alot of paperwork. All so that a manager can say he/she done more than walk about for a shift. They create problems for themselves at times.
they don't trust us then they expect us to watch out for shoplifters. don't think so somehow :-X >:D
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: lackofinterest on 12-10-18, 06:00PM
Nobody has asked and the op hasn't said but maybe they are guilty of whatever the investigation is about and are leaving due to it? No manager chooses to do an investigation it takes up time they would rather be doing other things.

First thing our new sm said when he arrived to all management and team supports was, if your not investigating at least one person right now then I feel your not doing your jobs and ill investigate you. And from how he has gone on so far he was not joking or showing off as he's had at least half the management team over it.
same is going on in our store, loads and loads of investigations for petty things, its as if store managers have been given "targets" now we have a quicker and leaner disciplinary process
On a plus side 2 of our most laziest people are no longer employed by Tesco and a third is on a final written so if this new procedure is done correctly then it will clear out the deadwood
done correctly  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: 1 on 12-10-18, 11:41PM
It isn't only the deadwood going in our place it is a lot of hard workers. Now left with new starters who try hard but aren't as good.
Title: Re: Re : invitation to investigation meeting
Post by: Nomad on 13-10-18, 10:58AM
Topic: invitation to investigation meeting