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Title: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: A on 23-06-18, 06:57PM
I am constantly being sent home early during overtime shifts with no prior warning or option to work on another department because I am not needed on my own department(dotcom). I have been sent home after working as little as 2 hours of my agreed shift.

I am also having to decline overtime on other departments because I have already agreed to my own department and then getting the entire shift cancelled on me with less than 24 hours notice. This is causing me to lose out financially however when I argue this, I am told that they are within in their rights to cancel on me with no notice.

Is there any policy which covers how much notice management/team support need to give staff before cancelling agreed overtime shifts or hours?
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Dorothy C on 25-06-18, 09:49PM
I don't know the answer but it doesn't seem right to me. Surely some other department could use you?
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: 101reef on 25-06-18, 11:33PM
If you’re on a flexible contract and sign for your hours then they have to give you 24 hours notice minimum before cancelling your shift. If you have signed for them on a record of hours sheet (Which is the correct process) you have the right to say no to it being cancelled. They cannot send you home early if you have signed for hours. If your not signing for them on a record of hours sheet don’t know where you stand coz the process isn’t actually being followed correctly.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: 101reef on 25-06-18, 11:40PM
I believe the union would say that you should be paid if they’re sending you home. Get in touch with your Rep they will soon stop sending you home if that have to pay you anyway. As soon as you accept overtime it’s an agreement. They wouldn’t allow you to just go home part shift. It works both ways. Good luck  :)
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: horatiocain on 22-07-18, 09:41AM
We had this happen on several occasions in my dotcom and the PM came up with a simple solution.
You get told at the point of clocking in whether they'll need you for the whole shift, one of union reps sprted it out.
Overtime shifts are essentially a temporary contract between yourself and Tesco for a single days work, I'd raise a formal grievance about it happening, telling them they breaching your trust, also they're inhibiting your ability to work in other departments and second jobs.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: doobit on 22-07-18, 11:12AM
It clearly states in the policy that no single shift should be less than 3 hours.  So where cancelling OT isn’t mentioned anywhere in writing, the hours you should be working in one shift is. So that is a clear breach of policy.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: lucgeo on 22-07-18, 12:23PM
And yet, if you don't turn up, or phone in sick for an overtime shift, do they treat it as an unauthorised absence? Does it go on your sickness % ???
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: madness on 22-07-18, 01:21PM
No it doesn't go against you.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: GreenGrocer on 22-07-18, 01:23PM
Overtime is you doing the company a favour. You should be able to start and finish when you decide within a 10 to 7 shift for example. In my store not turning up for OT never goes towards your sickness percentage. I know it’s different elsewhere. Although I would be careful as if you are starting late, taking shorter breaks and leaving early they will mess up your wages. I got paid for full shift a few times and they tried to get overpayments back.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Equalizer87 on 22-07-18, 02:08PM
In all the stores I worked in OT sickness was used against you, hence the reason I never did OT.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Walker on 22-07-18, 03:22PM
The sickness and absence policy was reviewed in June 2018. In stores it remains the case that absence on overtime or flexishifts can't be included in your sickness absence percentage but can be treated as a disciplinary matter.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Equalizer87 on 22-07-18, 04:01PM
Doesn't matter what the policy said, I know what happened and that it was used against st myself and other staff on our absence percentage.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: lucgeo on 22-07-18, 04:45PM
So if absence becomes a disciplinary matter, on what grounds are they disciplined?? If they turn up for work, paying fares, petrol etc....to be told that the overtime is cancelled or reduced, then surely the colleagues can grievance that they agreed to the hours of the shift and therefore should remain and be paid. Always used to be the rule that if a manager sent you home, then you would be paid. Admittedly that was if you were sick....though would argue the case, I'm here mate and I'm staying put :o
It all, as always, is stacked in Tescos favour. So the easy solution is to phone in sick if you don't want to do the shift as they can't then discipline you ??? Which then leaves everyone else short staffed, tunnel vision as usual tesco :-X :-X
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: madness on 22-07-18, 07:14PM
Usually when asked if they want to go home early from an overtime shift people choose too. Have never sent anyone home from overtime.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Walker on 22-07-18, 07:26PM
So if absence becomes a disciplinary matter, on what grounds are they disciplined?? If they turn up for work, paying fares, petrol etc....to be told that the overtime is cancelled or reduced, then surely the colleagues can grievance that they agreed to the hours of the shift and therefore should remain and be paid. Always used to be the rule that if a manager sent you home, then you would be paid. Admittedly that was if you were sick....though would argue the case, I'm here mate and I'm staying put :o
It all, as always, is stacked in Tescos favour. So the easy solution is to phone in sick if you don't want to do the shift as they can't then discipline you ??? Which then leaves everyone else short staffed, tunnel vision as usual tesco :-X :-X

Disciplined on the ground of being unable to fulfill your contract. Same, ultimately, as the way you'd lose your job under sickness absence... Just a different process.

Incidentally, you're not obliged to leave during a shift whether overtime or core hours. Once you've arrived at a shift Tesco should honour it.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Nikkih4586 on 22-07-18, 09:36PM
So  a question I'm  been on and off sick now for about 6 months and it's on going I work nights if asked to move to days on checkouts because it would be better for my health but I'm off at least one week in a month they have all my paperwork from hosptial and doctors I keep them informed all the time can they sack me I had 1st warning about 3 months ago for being off but I was in hosptial
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Used on 22-07-18, 10:15PM
What if you have been asked up to six weeks to do an overtime shift each week and then they decide to cancel your last overtime shift
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: Fixxer on 03-09-18, 09:07AM
I've only had this a couple of times but each time I've come in to find no work the manager has been quite reasonable and as long as you work for a full hour then you get paid for 3 (minimum shift length?)
Had to find something to do for an hour on another department but after that sent home and paid for the 3.

If cancelled in advance or less than an hours work available then no pay - seems quite fair to me although if it was happening often enough I may think otherwise of course.
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: JustJack on 03-09-18, 06:03PM
Most the managers couldn’t organise a p**s up in a brewery in my place. They promise you all the overtime you want then tell you last minute it is off.  Had to go out into town and beg today to make sure I’m OK for the September pay. Thankfully a few good Samaritans gave me over £100 in just over an hour.   
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: gomezz on 03-09-18, 06:35PM
While you were still wearing company uniform?
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: lucgeo on 03-09-18, 07:18PM
Most the managers couldn’t organise a p**s up in a brewery in my place. They promise you all the overtime you want then tell you last minute it is off.  Had to go out into town and beg today to make sure I’m OK for the September pay. Thankfully a few good Samaritans gave me over £100 in just over an hour.


You're joking right ??? ???
Title: Re: Cancelling overtime policy?
Post by: alf on 03-09-18, 08:27PM
Dunno, call me cynical but the post sounds eerily similar to posts made by a certain member...