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Title: References
Post by: alexsafc96 on 12-06-18, 12:20PM
I have been trying to get an employment reference from Tesco.
The company (Company A)who offered me a new job and required the employment reference from Tesco sent them an email to external.enquiries@uk.tesco.com.  Included in the email was a link for Tesco to fill out and complete. I don't know if they completed this link, or they just sent out a basic employment reference to Company A. After checking with Tesco that the reference had been sent out, Company A did not receive the reference.
I have submitted the same reference request but now have to wait 5-6 for this to be processed by Tesco.
Is there anything I can do to speed this process up?
Title: Re: References
Post by: JL on 14-06-18, 12:56PM
Meant to be starting a new job in a week but Tesco haven't sent my reference to new employer that was requested is there anyway of chasing this up? Asked TM but he said he wouldn't deal with it.  ???
Title: Re: References
Post by: angrybeaver on 23-07-18, 01:10PM
Can anyone with experience in the matter advise what the company actually include in an employment reference?

Had a lot of time off in the past couple of years and also many years ago for bereavement and worried it could be mentioned as absence and portray me negatively.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Walker on 23-07-18, 05:53PM
 Official company references don't contain anything like that - just day of joining, leaving and position name.
Title: Re: References
Post by: angrybeaver on 23-07-18, 06:35PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Nancy on 20-02-19, 02:44PM
Hi.

I'm just wondering what people's experience is when requesting a reference for a mortgage?  My mortgage company has requested that the information be emailed to them but it seems that HO have posted it and now a good week after Tesco say it was posted my mortgage company still have not received it.  Any advice would be welcome. :thumbup:
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 20-02-19, 02:56PM
Quote from: alexsafc96 on 12-06-18, 12:20PM
I have been trying to get an employment reference from Tesco.
The company (Company A)who offered me a new job and required the employment reference from Tesco sent them an email to external.enquiries@uk.tesco.com.  Included in the email was a link for Tesco to fill out and complete. I don't know if they completed this link, or they just sent out a basic employment reference to Company A. After checking with Tesco that the reference had been sent out, Company A did not receive the reference.
I have submitted the same reference request but now have to wait 5-6 for this to be processed by Tesco.
Is there anything I can do to speed this process up?

I work in an Express store but i guess it should be no different to other formats, get company A to email <store number>@uk.tesco.com, that way your direct manager or SM can give a reference.
Title: Re: References
Post by: 1 on 20-02-19, 03:32PM
References are done by head office your SM and TM will take nothing to do with it
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 20-02-19, 04:07PM
My SM did mine, I got them to email <store number>@uk.tesco.com and he did it.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Yayakolo on 19-05-19, 10:31PM
Quote from: Walker on 23-07-18, 05:53PM
Official company references don't contain anything like that - just day of joining, leaving and position name.

Will they contain the reason you left? For example dismissal resignation ect or will they literally just state the day you started and the day you left?
Title: Re: References
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 20-05-19, 06:24AM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 20-02-19, 04:07PM
My SM did mine, I got them to email <store number>@uk.tesco.com and he did it.

They shouldn't have it's actually misconduct for store managers  to send reference. he/She can send there own personal reference but this can not contain specific information regarding you employment nor from a Tesco email address.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 20-05-19, 06:25AM
Quote from: Yayakolo on 19-05-19, 10:31PM
Quote from: Walker on 23-07-18, 05:53PM
Official company references don't contain anything like that - just day of joining, leaving and position name.

Will they contain the reason you left? For example dismissal resignation ect or will they literally just state the day you started and the day you left?

It only states the period you were employed there no other details.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Yayakolo on 20-05-19, 08:48AM
Would it be the same if an employer did an experian background check?
Title: Re: References
Post by: optout on 20-05-19, 08:33PM
waiting for a reference myself, employer sent email request to tesco. Then tesco emailed a request form to the employer, this request form (then emailed by the employer to me) had to be filled in and signed by myself, giving tesco permission to give the reference to the employer. that was a few days ago, and I have heard nothing yet. But reading the above comments, I don't hold out much hope of expediency. In my case though I am not that concerned, there is no rush and I sort of expected tesco to c**k it up, par for the course with tesco.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Yayakolo on 11-06-19, 01:16PM
I've recently been dismissed and am waiting for a reference from tesco and was just wondering what would be included in the reference does anyone know if it's different if you've been dismissed compared to being a "standard leaver"
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 11-06-19, 04:47PM
Tescos references aren't traditional references, if you're gettimg a reference from head office, it will just contain start date, job title and end date. If you'ee getting a personal reference from the SM, they will put that you were dismissed for xyz.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Yayakolo on 11-06-19, 04:53PM
So that's a fact the definitely won't put the fact I was dismissed in a reference?
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 11-06-19, 05:08PM
No
Title: Re: References
Post by: Yayakolo on 11-06-19, 05:11PM
Sorry about the paranoia just wanted confirmation as waiting to hear back from an employer about one thank you for you advice
Title: Re: References
Post by: merchandiser4u on 11-06-19, 06:05PM
Hi,

My new employer sent an email off with the Tesco form filled out and it took them 10 or so days to get back to my new employer as per http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=16784.msg228732#msg228732 (http://www.verylittlehelps.com/index.php?topic=16784.msg228732#msg228732)

Good luck and all the best xx
Title: Re: References
Post by: Fantasist_halo on 01-12-19, 01:17PM
Hey all, I unfortunately got dismissed from Tesco a month ago. Now I have applied for a new job but the woman of the new job has messaged me if I can contact Tesco for the reference as she hasn't had a reply from them about my reference., but I'm not allowed as it's not done by the managers themselves. And I've told her I won't be able to got the reference. What shall I do? As I have a feeling she won't give me the job if I can't get a reference.

I'm also with an agency and they've been perfect and have had regular work consistently since I got dismissed.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Rad on 01-12-19, 02:47PM
Did you give them the email address for getting references from Tesco?
Title: Re: References
Post by: monty67 on 01-12-19, 06:12PM
Tesco will not provide a reference without you filling in a form to give them permission to divulge your personal information.
Any request without one will be sent back to store with the form as an attachment.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Fantasist_halo on 01-12-19, 07:12PM
I have never had a form . And
Quote from: Rad on 01-12-19, 02:47PM
Did you give them the email address for getting references from Tesco?

I don't know many email addresses of the store I got dismissed from unfortunately
Title: Re: References
Post by: Fantasist_halo on 01-12-19, 07:13PM
Quote from: monty67 on 01-12-19, 06:12PM
Tesco will not provide a reference without you filling in a form to give them permission to divulge your personal information.
Any request without one will be sent back to store with the form as an attachment.

I have never had such a form. Even when I moved stores due to house move. I never got one. What should I do now.
Title: Re: References
Post by: monty67 on 02-12-19, 08:57PM
This is the form you need to send along with any reference requests.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Preacherpauly on 09-12-19, 01:34PM
How long does it take for head office to get back to the company asking for the employment reference? Why cant wages in my store or the PM give the information?
Title: Re: References
Post by: Rad on 13-12-19, 08:55PM
If you have a good relationship with your manager they will sometimes do it for you.  It works both ways though as some people wouldn't want their manager or store having the chance to give a new employer any potential information that could compromise your chances.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Rad on 17-12-19, 12:08PM
If you are dismissed for awol your reference will say start date, leaving date, would not re employ.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Justlookingadvice1994 on 25-05-20, 07:39PM
Quote from: Rad on 17-12-19, 12:08PM
If you are dismissed for awol your reference will say start date, leaving date, would not re employ.

Just curious if anyone’s ever seen their reference? I had a written warning 4 years ago and am now leaving Tesco and wondering will this be mentioned in my reference?

Cheers
Title: Re: References
Post by: Phoneshopguy on 26-05-20, 12:45PM
nope, join date, leaving date position held.

Legally cannot give a bad ref so you're previous warning wont be on it
Title: Re: References
Post by: alf on 26-05-20, 02:57PM
They can give a poor one if it's genuine/accurate.

For example if they said you had poor attendance, when you had impeccable attendance, that's not allowed.

Though, I'd hazard a guess and tesco simply say nothing to save any potential arguments.

https://www.acas.org.uk/providing-a-job-reference/if-you-get-a-bad-reference
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 26-05-20, 03:22PM
It does seem that ACAS hate to see employers taken to court, I suppose ACAS being a government body it would be against their interests to see any employer that pays significant amounts of taxes lose money in the courts.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Pinky on 01-10-20, 10:18PM
Quote from: Rad on 17-12-19, 12:08PM
If you are dismissed for awol your reference will say start date, leaving date, would not re employ.

What would this say if you was dismissed on conduct?
Title: Re: References
Post by: penguin on 02-10-20, 09:26AM
Same as above
Title: Re: References
Post by: Pinky on 02-10-20, 09:37AM
As in will not re-employ? Is there a way Tesco can not put that on?
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 02-10-20, 02:27PM
Tbf, it's probably a badge of honour if Tesco say they won't re-employ you, it's a sign of intelligence.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Pinky on 02-10-20, 04:16PM
;D  ;D

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Title: Re: References
Post by: Welshie on 03-10-20, 12:16PM
Quote from: Pinky on 02-10-20, 09:37AM
As in will not re-employ? Is there a way Tesco can not put that on?

You dont get how references work , do you ?
Title: Re: References
Post by: newguy20 on 05-10-20, 04:17PM
Quote from: alf on 26-05-20, 02:57PM
They can give a poor one if it's genuine/accurate.

For example if they said you had poor attendance, when you had impeccable attendance, that's not allowed.

Though, I'd hazard a guess and tesco simply say nothing to save any potential arguments.

https://www.acas.org.uk/providing-a-job-reference/if-you-get-a-bad-reference

Exactly that and it is becoming widespread amongst many firms - to avoid any risk of lawsuits.

Some things are easier to prove than others, for example if they say you had poor attendance and challenged that could be backed up in court with hard evidence - if they say someone is lackadaisical and workshy that's a lot more difficult to prove.

A manager can however give you a reference, just not on Tesco headed paper, as a personal reference having been the manager of this person - which circumvents things because they then become liable for the content of the reference. Naturally, this will only be if the manager likes you enough to go out of his way to do it.
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 05-10-20, 04:56PM
I did my own reference, Manager said put what you want down, so I did.
Title: Re: References
Post by: lucgeo on 05-10-20, 10:04PM
References from Tesco aren't worth the paper they're printed on...the references come from HO and basically confirm you were employed on certain dates..and whether they would re employ.
Policy dictates that no instore manager can give a reference as a Tesco manager...but can give a personal reference.
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 06-10-20, 12:28PM
Managers following policy... you must be new to this site.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 07-10-20, 02:29PM
Quote from: NightAndDay on 05-10-20, 04:56PM
I did my own reference, Manager said put what you want down, so I did.
So it’s ok for you to lie then  ;D
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 07-10-20, 05:24PM
Doesn't matter what I put in my case, It got me out of Tesco, a fair few would say I'm one of the lucky ones, the bad thing is, I thought Tesco was a shitshow when I left, it's somehow worse now.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 07-10-20, 06:24PM
So the reference got you out of Tesco? Do you not find it a little contradictory that in one sentence you criticise those that do something they can get away with and display no integrity, yet you are willing to also indulge in that activity if it benefits yourself? So would it not be an untrue analogy to compare you to the same group of people that you seek to throw to the wolves on here ? Human nature is a funny thing
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 07-10-20, 07:46PM
I'd say for all that I did for the company, that what I put in my reference was accurate enough and true, I had 0 sick days, I was the reason the shop got a blue in stock and customers on the big 6 metric and I was a hard worker, the Store Manager knew that I was far below my station at Tesco so said to put what I want. I can't say that what I did lacked integrity because someone higher up the food chain allowed it.

To add, the practices of the people I scrutinize end up hurting someone else, cold chain for instance hurts the customer, stealing hurts the profits of Tesco, myself doing my own reference hurts nobody and benefits myself. Also I was given permission by a Store Manager with 10 years to do it, you can't scrutinize me for doing this without scrutinizing the Store Manager for allowing it to happen.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 07:13AM
Just because someone allowed it doesn’t mean it  doesn’t lack integrity  as you put it , apply that sort of logic elsewhere and you are basically saying that as long as it was allowed it’s got integrity???? Where does that stop then ?
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 08:27AM
You could also be lying about all the things you mention of about your past record, so that will hurt your new employer who could now be stuck with an employee that got the job through lying on a reference.
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-10-20, 09:44AM
If it did hurt my employer, I would have got fired by now and not promoted once and exceeding all of my KPIs, I didn't say I lied on my reference,  what I put down was 100% accurate and truthful. If you subscribe to the leadership model then any perceived lack of integrity must fall on the decision maker, aka the manager, after all, I think it would be very fair to say that the whole point of managers is that they're accountable. I asked for a reference, he said put what you want, so I did, what would you expect me to do? Say no you do it? In some circles that's called insubordination, punishable by death by firing range.

To add, he signed the reference as well, so it's not like it was without checks and balances.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 10:27AM
I think it’s fair to say in this situation it wouldn’t be punishable by death, also you asked for a reference they said you do it, that wasn’t an actual direct order was it as it was something you wanted yourself.
Also I said you could’ve lied about all of it . Accountability doesn’t just sit with a manager does it, in life we are all accountable in different ways and like to be seen a whiter than white . In this situation you have described, you have been deceitful, as that reference is not genuine, it’s you talking about yourself. If you were in your employers situation I think you would take a very dim view of what you did .
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-10-20, 12:00PM
Which would all be well and good if the manager didn't give his seal of approval. The fact that it was rubber stamped by a senior figure means it passed his assessment of it being a fair and balanced representation of me being a worker. I would say deceitful is a bit of a stretch, I would say it was more along the lines of lack of corporate governance resulted in whst happened, after all, who am I, at the time a humble shift leader to argue the decisions of our at the time superior officers, if the system doesn't prevent it, then it is permitted one could say,
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 12:09PM
Still don’t think the new employer would see it that way. There are also lots of things that systems don’t prevent, but that doesn’t make it right .
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-10-20, 12:28PM
If my reference was ever called into question for whatever reason,one of the first things asked would be, "Is this the referencers signature?" To which I would say yes. The signature means that what is wtlritten on the reference may as we have been said by the horses mouth.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 12:35PM
Did you forge that aswell?
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-10-20, 12:39PM
As a government official, I think your insinuation shows that you're a disestablishmentarian. No, I do have some integrity, thank you and good day.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Dougall on 08-10-20, 01:25PM
My comments make no reference to disestablishmentarianism which is to do with severing ties between church and state .  8-). It is all to do with you ..........
Title: Re: References
Post by: Nomad on 08-10-20, 07:53PM
[admin]Thank you both, at this point we will give others the space to post questions/answers regarding references.[/admin]
Title: Re: References
Post by: lucgeo on 08-10-20, 09:49PM
pssstt...anyone want a dodgy reference, I know just the government official  ;)
Title: Re: References
Post by: NightAndDay on 09-10-20, 09:23AM
All part of the service, indeed, If I can help anyone out of Tesco into a job that reminds them that they're human again then I would write all the dodgy references needed.
Title: Re: References
Post by: Redshoes on 10-10-20, 06:17AM
Can't move on though.