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Title: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: OpShunned on 05-12-17, 08:30PM
Spotted the following headline and just wondered if, potentially there will be a supply issue for our stores given the collapse of a supply chain that delivered products to 90.000 stores of various kinds, across the country?

Is this a major headache for Tesco? It is loss of revenue at the end of the day. Those tills need to keep 'kerchinging' especially at this time of the year. I'm led to believe that our convenience stores are the only profitable outlets we run?


TESCO is suffering from a frozen food shortage in a "small number of stores" due to the collapse of a wholesale firm which delivered goods.

The collapse of the firm, which delivered goods for other supermarkets, including Sainsbury's and Costcutter, rendered 2,500 employees redundant immediately and put a further 900 jobs at risk.

Angry shoppers have started moaning on Twitter about empty shelves in some Tesco Express stores, as the UK's biggest supermarket rushes to fill in the gaps.

The shortage affects stock of frozen, in-store bakery and some tobacco items.

One shopper said: "Bare shelves, so no Tesco beans for me @Tesco are we expecting a disaster or something".

Another added: "@Tesco Call yourself a ‘convenience’ store? Where are the waffles? Heard of restocking?"

While a third said: "Local Tesco with hardly any cigarettes left. Real impact in the short term of the P&H collapse. #tesco".

In the future, the supermarket is planning to work directly with suppliers which used P&H through its distribution network.

Deliveries for most of the affected items have already resumed.

A Tesco spokesperson said: “We are experiencing availability issues on a few products in a small number of stores.

"This is of a result of Palmer and Harvey being placed in administration last week.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/5072423/shoppers-fury-as-tesco-suffers-frozen-food-shortage-in-small-number-of-stores-due-to-collapse-of-ph-wholesaler/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/5072423/shoppers-fury-as-tesco-suffers-frozen-food-shortage-in-small-number-of-stores-due-to-collapse-of-ph-wholesaler/)
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: ll on 05-12-17, 11:41PM
I suspect it's the majority of, if not all, Express stores effected and not 'a small number of stores'. I work in Express and our freezers are virtually empty and tobacco is running very low. Customers aren't happy.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Welshie on 06-12-17, 02:45AM
Tobacco products are seriously low in our store and pfs
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Aero on 06-12-17, 03:49AM
P&H delivered tobacco to all Tesco and One Stop Stores. The short term contingency is for Tobacco to be sent via Grocery deliveries, and for other products to be picked and transferred from Store.

Longer term, who knows. The cynic in me thinks that the Booker deal might just have been a bit of a masterstroke 8-)
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: forrestgimp on 06-12-17, 06:39AM
If all the waste of spaces have to complain about is no beans on the shelves or no fags then they need to crawl back under whatever rock they came from, there are 2500 people out of a job.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Hammer10 on 06-12-17, 07:16AM
If the customers are moaning about empty shelves at expresses then just think on about those poor people out of work .Go to the big supermarkets like you used to you poor customers ,you will have to go a bit further you bunch of lazy xxxx.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: usualsuspect on 06-12-17, 10:44AM
If you are a pensioner , disabled or parent with young children , and do not have a car , then the local shops are a blessing .

US
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: rayinski on 06-12-17, 11:36AM
Gone to the local Tosco express, not got me fag's nor me value beans, ahh first world problems :)
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: JL on 06-12-17, 12:04PM
When the cigs start coming on grocery cages ruined maybe they will decide not to do them like Aldi/Lidl.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: darklighter on 06-12-17, 12:41PM
Aldi nor Lidl sell tobacco products.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: fargone on 06-12-17, 12:48PM
Just go and buy it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: JL on 06-12-17, 12:53PM
Aldi nor Lidl sell tobacco products.

been smoking? very good!
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: grim up north on 06-12-17, 01:27PM
My DC has started receiving tobacco products and delivering them to stores. Supposed to be for 5 weeks.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: just curious on 06-12-17, 07:33PM
If the DC 's  have started to get tobacco / cigs etc into them ready to deliver to stores will there be extra security on the pickers / loaders or will stores get delivery's  with part open / damaged packaging - missing stock , as they do already with mobile phones - Red Bull and other products . Should be fun doing the counts - miss matches etc on these lines and watching the stock losses accumulate ?.  :-X :-X.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: formerscoboy on 06-12-17, 07:54PM
Not only that. P+h were a known target of criminal gangs for stealing cigarettes directly off of lorry including holding drivers at gunpoint. Liverpool this year they lost more than £600k in 3 months! Wait till they realise its in tesco artics!
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: darklighter on 07-12-17, 02:29AM
Aldi nor Lidl sell tobacco products.

been smoking? very good!
WTF are you on about you cryptic piece of s***e.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: weebee on 07-12-17, 04:47AM
For your information it was either Lidl or Aldi did sell cigs although they were c**p and didn't stay on sale for long, in fact I think it was Lidl.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: grim up north on 07-12-17, 01:17PM
If the DC 's  have started to get tobacco / cigs etc into them ready to deliver to stores will there be extra security on the pickers / loaders or will stores get delivery's  with part open / damaged packaging - missing stock , as they do already with mobile phones - Red Bull and other products . Should be fun doing the counts - miss matches etc on these lines and watching the stock losses accumulate ?.  :-X :-X.

Does nothing ever get stolen by store staff?

I've got to say, it's surprised me if stores have always received their tobacco like this. Small amounts every day.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: allovertheshop on 07-12-17, 01:47PM
Staff and Company Directors are just as bad if not worse than the crooks.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: grim up north on 08-12-17, 03:34PM
Did stores used to get small tobacco deliveries from p+h everyday?
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: just curious on 09-12-17, 10:07AM
Not in the store i worked in , delivery's were always every Wednesday around twelve / twelve thirty  -  easy target for any criminal wanting to hold up the van as the delivery routine never changed for years it was like clock work . Like Formerscoboy has quoted £6000k in three months in Liverpool alone this year has been stolen .  ( Securicor were the same they never changed there collection / delivery pattern again like clock work easy pickings for any one with inside information ) . The Store i worked in was a superstore , and all the stock delivered was in black sealed bags flat packed - once the stock was unloaded it was placed into three cages until checked so you can tell how much stock / value there would have been should some one want to rob the Palmer and Harvey delivery   :question: .  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Welshie on 09-12-17, 02:08PM
Any one any ideas when cigs will start coming into store again , in our store we're out of everything tobacco related
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Equalizer87 on 09-12-17, 02:57PM
All three Tesco's near me are more or less out. Perhaps buying out P&H would have been a better idea.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Hibsdaft on 09-12-17, 03:35PM
There were rumours back in the summer that Tesco were looking at buying P&H, but were concerned it might stop them getting the green light from the regulators for the take over of Booker, which was always their main target.

As we all knew P&H has been living on borrowed time for months, the bigger question must be why Tesco does not seem to have put any alternative or back up in place, and has allowed stores to run out of tobacco products?
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Equalizer87 on 09-12-17, 04:14PM
You use the term 'back up' plan in the same sentence as Tesco??

There's no such thing in Tesco.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: allovertheshop on 09-12-17, 06:51PM
They have no back up plan because they can't see past their back end
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Vanilla on 09-12-17, 08:12PM
Why would Tosco want to buy P&H?
After all they can screw the supplychain but by acquiring P&H they'd by screwing themselves.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Equalizer87 on 09-12-17, 08:34PM
They have screwed themselves by letting ( directly or indirectly) P&H fail, as I said the three stores  near me a pretty much out of cigarettes and they cannot guarantee until when.

Tesco have no way of dealing with it. Remember tobacco is a bonded item so entails different requirements for delivery. If Tesco want to push it through DC's they see the same shrink that P&H saw.

All the local news agents are just loving the extra business this is giving them.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: captain on 10-12-17, 12:04PM
So, this is a wonderful excuse for Tesco to stop selling tobacco of all sorts on "ethical grounds", they could then shut down all customer service desks and just have a click and collect and lottery point.

Given that all people know, beyond all doubt, the health implications I for one would welcome Tesco not selling these nasty smelly cancer killers
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: forrestgimp on 10-12-17, 12:06PM
If the DC 's  have started to get tobacco / cigs etc into them ready to deliver to stores will there be extra security on the pickers / loaders or will stores get delivery's  with part open / damaged packaging - missing stock , as they do already with mobile phones - Red Bull and other products . Should be fun doing the counts - miss matches etc on these lines and watching the stock losses accumulate ?.  :-X :-X.

We got a delivery from the dc the bags were open packs were split and stuff was missing. Seems some one is getting free fags.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: fargone on 10-12-17, 02:30PM
How much is a packet of 20 cigerettes? £10.00p?
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: amex on 10-12-17, 02:39PM
Ranges between 7.50 and 12.00 pounds or more depending on the brand.  Waste of money. 
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: lackofinterest on 10-12-17, 02:49PM
 
If the DC 's  have started to get tobacco / cigs etc into them ready to deliver to stores will there be extra security on the pickers / loaders or will stores get delivery's  with part open / damaged packaging - missing stock , as they do already with mobile phones - Red Bull and other products . Should be fun doing the counts - miss matches etc on these lines and watching the stock losses accumulate ?.  :-X :-X.

We got a delivery from the dc the bags were open packs were split and stuff was missing. Seems some one is getting free fags.
doesnt surprise me one bit. a fag goes nice with a can of red bull, bag of crisps, and a choccy bar :-X
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: grim up north on 10-12-17, 05:58PM
In DC's there's meant to be 'extra security' around cigs, but if someone is determined to steal them, they will.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: allovertheshop on 10-12-17, 06:39PM
"extra security" The last I heard Tesco were looking to get rid of staff not increase them. The company is a mess. This is further proof MD and DL are clueless.
Title: Re: Palmer and Harvey Supply Issues (potentially)
Post by: Equalizer87 on 10-12-17, 07:20PM
How many times have opened cases of cans, crisps  and sweet been encountered?? Are you really expecting the tobacco to be any different?  (If anything, it will be worse)