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Managers pay review meeting 2017

Started by Woody44, 28-06-17, 07:31AM

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Arizonarugby

Of course they are under the spotlight for review/ streamlining the evidence is their for all to see people managers responsible for 4 stores, compliance managers going going gone - just to name a few but if Tesco are serious about reducing costs they need to look at the real high earners in on the senior team, distribution leadership team and retail leadership team .

Clearly if there is to much fat in the structure then it must exist at both ends of the management scale.

londoner83

Agree with the above....

If store managers are really in charge of their stores why do they need regional teams on vast salaries?

If dept managers are responsible for their departments why do they need senior team (who on the whole do very little in the way of physical work)?

Why in Extras can a checkout manager be expected to manage a team of 150+ yet a phone shop manager is on a similar wage to manage 5 staff?

I have no doubt we will go down discounter route and have a store manager and a handful of other managers responsible for whole store. Staff will also once store scheduler is fully rolled out work across current department borders.

Thisismyusername

I have a question, that I have not really bothered  about before this pay review. As a relatively new but skilled bakery manager, is it right that I am expected to bake and do early mornings (2am) without being paid skilled rate? I get paid less than our grocery manager/produce manager but a few years back it was a totally different story before it was axed. Should I do the baking without the extra wage and just suck it up as that's what's I'm paid to do? Or do I argue that I do not get paid the skilled rate so I will not be doing any of it without extra? It just seems slightly unfair. Sometimes I feel l might just be better off as a dotcom driver or a baker 😂

Me2015

I know it's all changed but, I was a skilled bakery manager, got paid more than others, 1 below Stock Control Manager in old money, C2 I'm sure it was classed as!

With the changes I'm pretty sure it's a case of just sucking it up now, especially the way the firm is going with pay offs, premiums being axed etc etc.

Worth asking about EOY Grade etc in past and whether appropriate pay rise based on performance has been applied - I know that means jack just now but I'd be challenging it mate!

Good luck

Northernstorelad07

Quote from: londoner83 on 03-07-17, 08:41AM
Agree with the above....

If store managers are really in charge of their stores why do they need regional teams on vast salaries?

If dept managers are responsible for their departments why do they need senior team (who on the whole do very little in the way of physical work)?

Why in Extras can a checkout manager be expected to manage a team of 150+ yet a phone shop manager is on a similar wage to manage 5 staff?

I have no doubt we will go down discounter route and have a store manager and a handful of other managers responsible for whole store. Staff will also once store scheduler is fully rolled out work across current department borders.

Phone shop managers work in a specialised area have accountabilities that no other manager has to deal with
They do not report to a manager instore they don't get support from anyone instore with staffing or wages
Or customer issues they can't put there hand up and say help like a lot of other departments also they have to cost
There own staff wages. Hence why there staff are D grade

Hammer10

Surely if your a bakery manager you should be skilled otherwise how the hell do you know what your bakers are doing they can BS you about what they do my manager does 3am starts when needed and he never moans may be he likes the early starts so he can leave at 11am.

Northernstorelad07

Has anyone put in A greivence yet ?

trolleyboy96

Yep, I added it to the one I put in 2 years ago when we got no payrise on performance related contract yet I finished Eoy green, that got me to the gpm who never resolved it, so I doubt this will get me anywhere!

Northernstorelad07

Surely if there is an active investigation and there has been no movement you can in theory take out a grievance against the manager who was dealing with that ?

Hamsterman

Quote from: trolleyboy96 on 07-07-17, 02:11PM
Yep, I added it to the one I put in 2 years ago when we got no pay rise on performance related contract yet I finished Eoy green, that got me to the gpm who never resolved it, so I doubt this will get me anywhere!
OK so you got your EOY green review but no pay rise? sounds to me your review was BS and your manager submitted an amber or worse, that's why you didn't get anything.  I'd ask your PM or wages to pull your file, if it wasn't the review you say you got then you'd have a case, I've known of cases like this before when managers have been too weak to give real reviews face to face only to submit poor reviews or not to have any official review and submit poor ones on the quiet and hope nobody notices, one thing I've noticed over the years is once a review has been submitted that's it. 

trolleyboy96

It was the year managers got no pay rise, no one got one 2 maybe 3 years ago, eoy green was posted.

notsofunny


From what I understand , no one gets a Automatic pay rise , regardless of what they had at the time Review, what they are doing is looking at what pay you are already getting for the department you are working in , Even In Express if you are getting the top score but are on a high pay for the store scale you will not get paid, Its all about bringing every one in to line with the new pay scales they are going to In force ,

optout

@NotSoFunny

do you think they will ever bring the Executive pay scales into line :question: ;)
I AM NOT A REP, BUT......

notsofunny

No I don't
Since they are a law on to them self. After all they get paid to cut our pay .and as such so long as they do they will ask for more and get it..the peramid springs to mind as well..not everyone can do the job at the top.I would say that most of the human race has a heart and feelings
Something that at times is lacking at the top.

optout

Sounds like a society led by sociopaths to me. And we wonder why laws get broken. If we seek we will surely find. :thumbup:
I AM NOT A REP, BUT......

OvaSees

Just to highlight that on this trajectory, by 2020 CAs will be earning £9 an hour and a Team Manager will on average earn around £12 an hour, based on the principle of 'fairness' that is being bounced about. When you factor in the additional tax and NI liabilities, that extra £3 an hour doesn't look so good considering what you have to tolerate to earn it...

JL

Ovasees

Middle management should always only be on a few pounds more. You don't need to tolerate anything. One of the main problems with Tesco is that people will not question those above.

OvaSees

JL  :thumbup:

Perhaps if Tesco culture genuinely (as opposed to pretending) to listen, it wouldn't have the problems it has now.

JL

It is always worth a try in the off chance that someone will listen but you will probably find the door before. The place is full of c**k suckers and few are up for a shift.

Me2015

Has anyone had their formal grievance heard yet?  Been 3 weeks now since the news hit! Be good to get some updates from around the country to see how consistent the message is.

lackofinterest

 
Quote from: JL on 10-07-17, 08:18AM
Ovasees

Middle management should always only be on a few pounds more. You don't need to tolerate anything. One of the main problems with Tesco is that people will not question those above.
i will!! :P

darklighter

Warning, Gravy train has reached it's destination, all senior team and PM ( Pointless Managers),  please get off!

Time for Tesco to embrace the idea of a Meritocracy where only the capable get promoted and not the friends and relations of Senior and lead team!

Nepotism destroys companies and hopefully Tesco will nip this long term problem in the bud.

sayonara to the PM, that unecessary evil that purported to be there for all staff but was fit for nothing but support of Management and making posters, possibly a vassal for store manager to get rid of his dirty water.

 

Teddybonkers

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darklighter    :thumbup:

Me2015

So, with no replies to my previous comment, can I assume everyone was just 'talking' about putting grievance in, no actual letter handed in?? It's been over 3 weeks now, and guidelines is to have grievance heard within 7 days! 
I've had mine, stated my points about giving to one and not the other, even though a 'met' was achieved.
Awaiting a decision, I will clearly be taking it to next stage if the response is not adequate.

Welshie

Good luck Me2015 , I think many people fear putting a grievance in , in case of repercussions!

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