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Title: New pay rise
Post by: cosmosmallpiece on 13-12-18, 10:26AM
Hi can anyone tell me please  from what date should we be NO worse off after our last pay rise as it was stated in the leaflet we had last year about the pay rises . Thank you
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: T.C.1 on 13-12-18, 11:26AM
Just looked at my wage slip what is relief pay??? I think a lot of colleges after seeing there payslips will say what pay rise? Then to cover up what sort of s**t pay deal it was they give us a double discount weekend! Merry Christmas🤔
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: rayinski on 13-12-18, 11:49AM
My manager checked for me a few months back after I pointed out that during the transition period I would be worse off, she checked for me and found out that from Nov 2018 - Nov 2019 I would be £300 better off, despite the fact the during the transition period I would be....£300 worse off.

So this pay-rise is worth diddly squat to me and all those other poor buggers who are contracted to Sunday as part of their working week, but if you only work Sunday, that's a different thing all together - they got a payment worth 18months of the difference in pay.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 13-12-18, 01:18PM
Please don't be fooled into thinking that any compensation payment was "18 months worth".
I think this discussion has been discussed to death - so we are where we are.
Without any location pay, the hourly rate for GAs is now £8.42.
The NLW is increasing to £8.21 in April.
It's highly unlikely that we will get another pay rise before April - or that it will go back to the usual timeframe (June/July).
It's highly likely that November/December will be the new norm.
And unless something comes out of the woodwork I cannot see any reasons for Tesco to give us a payrise other than to "meet the necessary legal ramifications" of paying at least the NLW.
Vague estimates of the NLW would see it increase to around £8.55 in April 2019, and maybe £9 by April 2020 (more likely just under.....around £8.85)
So Tesco would probably only need to give us 3% increases for the next couple of years.
And then of course, the Sunday/BH "premium" would probably go after that date. And if we're lucky, Tesco would "reinvest" that saving - so everyone would get around 5.5% instead of 3%.

All just surmising.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: 80377494 on 13-12-18, 01:24PM
Quote from: T.C.1 on 13-12-18, 11:26AM
Just looked at my wage slip what is relief pay??? I think a lot of colleges after seeing there payslips will say what pay rise? Then to cover up what sort of s**t pay deal it was they give us a double discount weekend! Merry Christmas🤔

Relief pay is paid when you work for an hour or more on a department which is paid the skills payment.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Expressdude2016 on 13-12-18, 01:27PM
minimum wage will be set at least £9 an hour in 2020 that's already been announced by government.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Red75 on 13-12-18, 03:31PM
Finally signed a new contract. It's for £268 something. The previous contract which I signed before July was for £270 and change. I feel bad about being so passive about the erosion of our terms and conditions and accepting the ambiguous deceit of Tesco but I'm probably not alone. I'm kind of past caring. I never knew that an employer could give you a 2 year pay risethat includes a second year pay cut. I don't see the company doing well. Prices are going up, probably to offset the loss of market share. I'm pretty sure that we are still engaged in a price war but our leadership have forgotten this in their search of increasing revenues. Isn't this failure to recognise what is happening in the market something that had a detrimental effect on Tesco not so long ago. Equivalent products of similar quality are 30 - 40 percent cheaper at Aldi. There's always been an element of 'what we can get away with' with a lot of Tesco's pricing. Look at the £12 chocolate cakes out for Christmas, I find that expensive. Aldi and Lidl price everything to offer value. I just think senior management are putting up prices to pay for their vast salaries and bonuses. Senior management's greed will be Tesco's undoing. A GA's worth seems to be about 2 percent above minimum wage every April with a pay rise to keep us 2 percent above the following April's minimum wage rise in November. I waste way too much time thinking about this. I'm sorry if it offends some of you but I honestly find Tesco to be nasty greedy company.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 13-12-18, 06:24PM
Quote from: Expressdude2016 on 13-12-18, 01:27PM
minimum wage will be set at least £9 an hour in 2020 that's already been announced by government

Govt don't "set" the NLW (per se). The £9 was their "stated aim" - but every chance it won't happen.
Then again, with Brexit or not, who knows what will happen?

Sorry, I should have used the word "pledged"

Here's a link from a year ago......not sure things have improved much

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-living-wage-increase-2020-government-will-fail-says-watchdog-a7621256.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-living-wage-increase-2020-government-will-fail-says-watchdog-a7621256.html)
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: lordadmiral on 13-12-18, 08:14PM
It's what I said in another thread. In April 2020 Tesco will be forced to give us pay rise to match new minimum rate.  It won't be £9.

According to the grocer magazine Tesco has second worst pay and it will stay like that for a long time.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Spongbob on 14-12-18, 03:32AM
I looked up a old contract from 2007 my basic pay was £335 my new 2018 basic is £340 Lol wow there you go what pay rise
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: fatboy on 12-01-19, 10:41PM
Anyone any idea of when we might get another pay increase? Thanks
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Spongbob on 13-01-19, 01:27PM
They will probably cut the Sunday and overtime rate down to single time to fund the rise asvyhey have done in previous so called rises then probably cut back on something else just too naff off the long serving colleagues for example  paid sick as in my previous post my basic pay not really increased much since 2007
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: fatboy on 13-01-19, 02:19PM
Do we usually get an increase in basic pay in May?
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Blackcat3 on 13-01-19, 02:56PM
I think next one will be November before the living wage comes in
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: fatboy on 13-01-19, 03:22PM
National living wage is due to go up in April.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 14-01-19, 01:43PM
But our current lowest rate (£8.42) is higher than the new NLW (April) - therefore, Tesco will be under no obligation to increase pay.
It will only be out of the kindness of their hearts if we do get another increase much before the end of 2019. (or maybe the hard work and persistence of USDAW?)
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Hammer10 on 14-01-19, 02:06PM
I was told by a union rep that discussions for this years pay rise are ongoing at the moment.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 14-01-19, 06:57PM
That may well be true - historically we used to get our pay review/rise in June/July - hence discussions would begin at or around the beginning of the calendar year. However, these same discussions took place at the same time two years ago - but the actual start of the "two year deal" did not increase our pay until November.

So it is only my humble opinion - but it seems highly unlikely that Tesco will give us another pay rise so soon after the final part of our two year deal (which happened in November 2018). Especially when legally they don't have to.

It's likely/probable/possible that we'll get a small pittance of a bonus - think this is probably paid in or around May/June - so from that point of view - Tesco won't want to have to increase pay before that -

Anyway - as I say, I have no inside info - just my feeling/hunch that we're unlikely to see that £8.42 move upwards before November 2019!!

Maybe someone can set up a poll and see which month wins?

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Charlie Harper on 14-01-19, 10:06PM
In agreement with barafear. November 2019 at the earliest. Anything sooner would be a very welcome surprise.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: londoner83 on 15-01-19, 05:25AM
Until Tesco knows how Brexit will impact them, i can't see them agreeing any pay increases.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: his scots tie on 15-01-19, 07:42AM
Tesco don't want to give you a pay rise ,full stop.No matter how well they are doing they will just use things like  Brexit as an excuse to keep staff just above min wage.once again when that goes up in April someone on min wage,39 hours or min wage breaks paid,will be earning more than Tesco worker on ,£8.42.Tesco will probably wait till Nov 19,robbing staff of four months pay again,before paying next year's pay rise,knowing if they don't give staff a pay rise then it will be forced upon them in April 2020 when the min wage goes up again
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Slim78 on 15-01-19, 07:51AM
The 2018 pay rise was in 2 parts one rise on July 1st (+16p on established rate to £8.18) and another on 18th November (3% on base rate and skills payments taking established b/c grade to £8.42)

In our newsletter in our canteen it says that negotiations are due to start and that they are trying to negotiate a 'substantial' increase in base rate and also an increase in night premiums

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 15-01-19, 09:21AM
The "two year" deal started in Nov 2017. And the first increase was in 2017.
The 16p you refer to in July 2018 was simply "reinvestment" of the savings Tesco made by reducing Sunday/BH premium to 1.25.

The actual "pay increase" was really only the two increases in Nov 2017 and Nov 2018. And depending on your days of work, you recieved "up to 10.5%" increase.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: BarryZola on 15-01-19, 08:17PM
You have to wonder how they're going to keep our wages running above/equal to NLW after they've completely cut the last of the Sunday premiums etc to pay for them? How are they meant to keep profits up without cutting staff benefits? Cutting staff/pay is the easiest way to make senior management look like they're doing a good job of making money, so how do they do this once they've stripped everything away from us except a basic wage at NLW? I suppose we'll be finding out in the next couple of years. I mean, they do keep telling all of our managers that they're over hours on their departments...........
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: just curious on 15-01-19, 11:16PM
BarryZola - stop wondering

They will sell off there subsidiary company's / Land banks and other portfolios etc to falsify income figures etc  that's how they will achieve the income to pay the increase in pay  :question:

Sorry i forgot , they have already done that with anything they could sell - only thing they found hard to off load was the clubcard data base side of the company , ( although they have reduced the number of places where you could exchange your clubcard vouchers for days out etc and double up the value of the vouchers on theme parks and such ) , The garden centres , some over seas parts of the company , opticians and photo shops etc all got sold off as franchises or leased out a few years ago to make it look as though income was up and debts were down  :-X :-X
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: 1 on 16-01-19, 08:54AM
Quote from: Slim78 on 15-01-19, 07:51AM
The 2018 pay rise was in 2 parts one rise on July 1st (+16p on established rate to £8.18) and another on 18th November (3% on base rate and skills payments taking established b/c grade to £8.42)

In our newsletter in our canteen it says that negotiations are due to start and that they are trying to negotiate a 'substantial' increase in base rate and also an increase in night premiums

Not seen this newsletter but how many times have we been told we are getting a "substantial increase" and all you heard of on this forum was weekend staff losing money. They will have to go some to even match the discounters in base rate. As for the night premiums they have remained the same.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Teddybonkers on 16-01-19, 01:46PM
"Substantial increase"  :D - heard it all before. USDAW are completely useless - all they're interested in is running soppy conferences for their loyal activists,  or spending YOUR money lobbying for a Labour government. Our pay rises are directly linked to increases in the NLW - and you don't need USDAW for that.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: person7 on 16-01-19, 04:34PM
Quote from: Slim78 on 15-01-19, 07:51AM
The 2018 pay rise was in 2 parts one rise on July 1st (+16p on established rate to £8.18) and another on 18th November (3% on base rate and skills payments taking established b/c grade to £8.42)

In our newsletter in our canteen it says that negotiations are due to start and that they are trying to negotiate a 'substantial' increase in base rate and also an increase in night premiums

Wait, I'm supposed to get paid £8.42? my December AND latest 11th January  payslips both say my pay is £8.131 and before that I was getting paid £7.894 hour?

This is my 4th month with tesco, lets just say since my wage went up to £8.131 its been a LOT busier and less staff, I now do the WHOLE general merch department all on my own 80% of my shift! (I only work Mondays paid for 7 hours for my 2pm to 10pm shift with 1 hour break - can't work more then 16 hours/earn more then £125 in a week as I'm registered disabled and not ready to move full time) but now I find its supposed to be £8.42!

I do actually enjoy being busy (as long I know what I'm doing and its doable), it helps keep my mind off things to do with my mental health, and boosts my confidence and I feel worthwhile... but NOT if I'm getting underpaid for it and 2 staff who used to help on my shift all left and another doesn't start until after my break so I have to restock the WHOLE area myself from 2pm until 8pm then someone else comes in.  I barely get it done by 9:40pm so only have 20 minutes to do the tidy up when normally I'm supposed to start that at 8:30pm until I finish at 10pm.

Also aren't usdaw supposed to making tesco increase it £10 hour minimum?

definitely no newsletters or anything at my Tesco about this pay rise.

I don't mind working as long its fair pay, especially working 2pm to 10pm then going home in the dark to the tram or bus stop with known crimes in area.

My shift is non stop on your feet back for only £8.131 hour (8 hour day but 7 hour pay as 1 hour unpaid break) AND they close down the staff canteen at 2pm now, so I have to pay for food from the shop floor so during my break customers can hassle me while I get something to eat that can be microwaved, no more cheap dinners or anything for evening/night staff!

Sorry for my little rant, its related to this forum post as I seem to be underpaid.

My payslip says:
hours 7.00
hourly pay 8.131

none seem to match everyone else's !

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: twisted on 16-01-19, 05:29PM
Starter rate is now £8.13...established rate is £8.42. When you have been with the company 3 months you will automatically get the increase and go onto established rate.
If you are in your 4th month now you will go over to established rate anytime now and will be issued with a new contract to state this.
Hope that helps clear it up  :)
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 16-01-19, 07:29PM
Obviously USDAW's role (well one of their many so-called roles) is to negotiate a package for their members (and other staff) including pay and conditions.
Of course they may have stated an aim to push our basic pay to £10 - maybe it was to garner more members to join them.

Ultimately, as someone said - at the basic level - our pay will only track any increases in NLW. And for anyone still getting any sort of premiums, in the future, we're all aware these will be under pressure.

Then again - with the current mess with B***X*T, who knows what the future will hold.

As for "pay rise" - it's generally called a pay review - and in terms of the timing - I remember this two year deal we've just had was "leaked" early - so was announced in Feb 2017 but didn't get implemented until Nov 2017 - so even if USDAW are working hard on the negotiations now it doesn't mean we'll get any increase any sooner.

To be honest - even though I have earlier predicted that the next pay rise wouldn't happen until November 2019 - if we read the letter of the last agreement - it stated it was a 2 year deal - which should have commenced in July 2017 - but the first tranche was pushed back to Nov 2017 to allow a better overall deal for everyone - so in theory the real end of the two year deal is June/July 2019 - so unless they use the same tactics again - in theory we should be due a "review" from July this year. Whether that review will see an increase is anyone's guess.



Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: person7 on 17-01-19, 12:58AM
Quote from: twisted on 16-01-19, 05:29PM
Starter rate is now £8.13...established rate is £8.42. When you have been with the company 3 months you will automatically get the increase and go onto established rate.
If you are in your 4th month now you will go over to established rate any time now and will be issued with a new contract to state this.
Hope that helps clear it up  :)

AH! thanks a lot as nobody told me this! I knew the £7.894 was starter rate but wasn't told this would increase so I assumed it increased as I reached the 3rd month etc. - now to see WHEN I get the updated contract..

I just found my current contract now, interesting... it says I officially started on 23rd October 2018 yet my first day was 20th with induction and training and did a full shift 22nd but I got paid for both days so no issue technically.. but I didn't get it to sign until the 12th November after 5 or 6 shifts (doing 1 day a week but already got offered overtime one week), I remember it got to point where I was getting concerned by my manager as no proof I was working there who promised me every time "contract will be ready next day your in" and the DWP were on my arse as I'm on benefits and said "if you don't provide proof you are working less then 16 hours we will stop all your payments", especially as I got uniform and badge end of 1st week. he is a nice guy but soooo distracted and forgets everything, had to remind him about something 6 times during one shift about something he was supposed to do for a few of us and I wasn't the only one reminding him haha.  mind you a new manger took over now as he has left on leave for a few months.

lol
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: 80377494 on 17-01-19, 05:14AM
Some managers are notorious when it comes to paperwork. I know for a fact that following the November 2018 pay rise (and subsequent new contract) that my store is still waiting for over 100 contracts to be returned to HR.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 17-01-19, 05:20PM
taken from Usdaw Facebook page
Previous poster mentioned the £10 an hour pledge - but let's face it, it's just a "campaign" which is unlikely to come to Fruition - especially anytime before 2020 anyway.

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Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: madness on 17-01-19, 05:33PM
What is the "right to normal hours contract" about? 
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 17-01-19, 06:02PM
I don't know for sure.....but I assume it's "the same hours every week" - rather than......16 hours when Tesco need you rather than what suits the employee?
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: person7 on 17-01-19, 08:12PM
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I agree, I just assume it means something like NOT what Christmas temp had to do, work 9am to 2pm, then go home, and come back in at 8pm that same evening until midnight, he had NO choice in what hours to work other then set hours for the week, he was told sometimes hour or 2 before "can you come in to do your shift"

so I assume its what suits the employee NOT the employer.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: fatboy on 26-10-20, 09:08AM
anyone have any ideas when the next pay review will take place now we are on the full amount from the last review.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 26-10-20, 09:45AM
If Ken Murphy carries on the same pattern as Lewis, a 2 year pay review announced in June/ July, first to take place in July/August and 2nd October/November the year after, they're now trying to save money by keeping the dates when the rise happens closer to the mandatory national living wage increases in april so they don't pay more than they have to over an extended period and to give them an idea of how much they can raise it by to keep it just above living wage.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 25-11-20, 01:01PM
Was announced on the news today that due to Coronavirus, economic forecasting looks dire around the country, with pay freezes for NHS workers and increases of just 18p per hour to the national living wage rather than the expected 49p per hour increase next April making the new living wage £8.90 an hour rather than the expected £9.21. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rishi-sunak-spending-review-uk-economy-b1761574.html)

Part of the Lewis era strategy of saving on the wage bill (apart from the obvious cuts to the pension plan and streamlining of roles) was introducing 2 year staggered pay reviews, a significant pay increase typically between June and August in the 1st year and a minimal increase the 2nd year between September and October, sometimes with a stinger in the interim (a 16p increase for a downgrade of time and a half rates for sunday/bank holiday premium for example), typically to keep wages as close to the estimated living wage that would be announced just before April the next year and enforced in April.

When the pay review happened for the 30p increase just received in October to £9.30, the higher ups thought that the national living wage would increase in April to £9.21, not £8.90, so with this being the case and the statement from Ken Murphy (the new CEO) being that his strategy is to "maintain momentum" in the business and not to detract from Lewis's strategy, an educated guess on the outlook of the next pay review are for it to be substantially worse than the last one with the justification of Coronaviruses effects on the economy and that they're already paying significantly above the national living wage (by 40p when the next review is announced).

So with this being the case, I think the next review will see another staggered 2 year pay review, the first being a 15p increase to take effect in July/August, An interim increase of 20p per hour in May/June the year after to fund Sunday and Bank holiday premium going to a flat rate and a final increase of 15p in October/November (I would also guess that they would increase night premiums by a few pence as well, despite the bleak outlook, it hasn't had an increase in years.)
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 25-11-20, 01:33PM
That's a very detailed Guesstimate there NightandDay.

I don't disagree with most of what you say......

However, I would expect the first staged payment not to take place as early as July/Aug 2021 - I think it will be "as usual" Oct/Nov 2021.

Also, I wonder if they will stick to the two-year deals of the past few years - given the uncertainty - they might just do what the Govt have done - do a one year deal and see where we are next year.

Given the fact that the current rate of £9.30 is 39p above the new NLW - it could even be argued that Tesco don't have an increase at all until the start of 2022.

If we assume that maybe recovery in the economy will take place over the next 14-18 months - in that case, we might expect the NLW to increase from 8.91 to 9.20 in April 2022.

Therefore our current 9.30 would still be above it.

So maybe, pushing it up to £9.50 in Jan 2022 - and at the same time removing the Sunday/BH premiums -

Of course, as well as the NLW I'm sure Tesco take account of other supermarket's rates of pay.....

At the moment, we're all pretty much around the same mark - so from that point of view, Tesco don't need to be overly generous to us.

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: 80377494 on 25-11-20, 02:10PM
I have been informed by a union rep that first aid pay is changing. Express stores, and possibly Metros, receive a one off yearly payment and I don't have any information about those formats. Other formats receive a flat payment of £5.50 per week. The company now wants to pay colleagues 17 pence per hour instead. Not sure if the payment is included in with any overtime or just contracted.
I should point out that it might not be £5.50 per week at the minute, I'm not at work so can't double check.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 25-11-20, 03:54PM
I can confirm this and have read the letter, rather than a £55 payment every July (for the level 2 first aider qualification), it is now 17p an hour extra for all hours worked (including overtime), due to the way holiday pay works (the minimum being contracted rate, the most being the average of your past 12 weeks of pay), this would in most cases include the 17p per hour supplement.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: whatajoke2019 on 25-11-20, 09:45PM
I've also had the letter and it states based on my current average hours worked I'll be better off.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 26-11-20, 12:12AM
It's a fairer system overall, why should a first aider who works 8 hours a week be paid the same as a full time employee, the one who works longer hours is more likely to have to use their training on someone.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: grim up north on 26-11-20, 02:42PM
Better if it's included in your hourly rate
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 26-11-20, 02:54PM
In most cases it would be a pointless distinction, you'd only be able to tell if it's included in bonus calculations or if you go off sick or if you go on holiday straight after the pay change.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: T.C.1 on 19-01-21, 01:34PM
So Aldi giving there staff who worked three years and over a pay rise that will mean they will be on over £10 an hour how will Tesco respond???
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: trotter on 19-01-21, 01:48PM
Why should they respond?

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 19-01-21, 02:25PM
Morrisons are increasing their pay to £10 an hour in April, if Aldi are following suit then there would need to be strong justification for Tesco etc not to follow suit, there's the PR side of it and then there's the competitive element of it, there are and will always be people that will take a job at Tesco, but if there's anything that gives another reason for the current employees, especially experienced hires to jump ship to a competitor, then that could cause problems.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: dotnochance on 19-01-21, 02:33PM
f*** no i dont want a f****ng payrise, as i know if they do go with £10 an hour they will cut sunday premium and ill be getting less then than im getting now
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: barafear on 19-01-21, 05:30PM
think Sunday premium is going soon anyway - whether or not they put base salary to £10!!

Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: T.C.1 on 19-01-21, 06:08PM
Time will tell but over the years colleagues have lost a lot for peanuts!!
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: lordadmiral on 19-01-21, 10:06PM
£10.57 for those with 3 yr of experience plus paid breaks. So Aldis day worker will have what we earn on nights at Tesco. FFS.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: Nomad on 08-02-21, 11:26AM
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/wages-asda-tesco-aldi-morrisons-19785878 (https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/wages-asda-tesco-aldi-morrisons-19785878)

QuoteA full list of wages for every major supermarket in the UK - and which pays the highest
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: BUY TESLA STOCK on 08-02-21, 11:46AM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 19-01-21, 10:06PM
£10.57 for those with 3 yr of experience plus paid breaks. So Aldis day worker will have what we earn on nights at Tesco. FFS.

I don’t see many from night shift wanting to join Aldi day shift.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: lordadmiral on 08-02-21, 11:48AM
Thre is a info that Waitrose offer performance pay. I would be happy to see it at tesco. Maybe those who spend 7h filling 2-3 cages push themself to get better pay ;D
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: notsofunny on 08-02-21, 01:09PM
Anyone seen the staffing levels at aldi and lidl , from what I have seen they never stop working , never seen 2 members of staff talking to each other let alone to visitors wonder what the sales ratio is compared to sales  ??? , The other thing I noticed some time ago was that not one of them seem to be over 30 years of age ,
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: dotnochance on 08-02-21, 07:32PM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 08-02-21, 11:48AM
Thre is a info that Waitrose offer performance pay. I would be happy to see it at tesco. Maybe those who spend 7h filling 2-3 cages push themself to get better pay ;D
I wouldn’t want performance pay to com into Tesco, especially with the culture that mangers have with favourites, now I don’t think any managers would penalise me, but I can see a lot of people loosing out on pay because their not in the right group, there’s a manager in our store who used to be on bws who would spend 90% of his shift sitting on beer through in the bond on his phone! But because he’s friendly with store manager he got fast tracked onto management and is saying he’s looking to go onto senior training, less than 2 years with company. He’s completely useless as a manager.
Some staff do bugger al but because they are friendly with managers with can do no wrong, and then some staff who work their asses of, but don’t get on with managers  get picked up on for every little thing
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-02-21, 07:39PM
Tesco does teach hard work doesn't pay, it's who you know.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: BarryZola on 08-02-21, 08:15PM
Quote from: lordadmiral on 08-02-21, 11:48AM
Thre is a info that Waitrose offer performance pay. I would be happy to see it at tesco. Maybe those who spend 7h filling 2-3 cages push themself to get better pay ;D

At Waitrose you'd probably also have the pleasure of not having to work around or serve the Wayne and Waynetta Slob family who come in 5 at a time during a pandemic when asked to come in alone, eating and drinking and making loads of noise then discarding their rubbish across random shelves. I would expect that waitrose attracts a slightly more refined clientele. You can't put a price on that.
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: notsofunny on 08-02-21, 09:07PM


  in which case would it not be better that you went and worked at ,,, rather than at tesco in which the average working class family shop , and who happen to pay your salary ? But be careful they are due to close some stores due to the drop in snobs shopping in them and the Wayne and ,, not being welcomed ,,,,,,
Title: Re: New pay rise
Post by: NightAndDay on 08-02-21, 09:31PM
Quote from: notsofunny on 08-02-21, 01:09PM
Anyone seen the staffing levels at aldi and lidl , from what I have seen they never stop working , never seen 2 members of staff talking to each other let alone to visitors wonder what the sales ratio is compared to sales  ??? , The other thing I noticed some time ago was that not one of them seem to be over 30 years of age ,

If you see the reviews at Aldi and the Aldi graduate scheme, starting salary £44k a year and a BMW M3, rising in increments to £78k a year, what they don't tell you is that the BMW M3 is a BIK so royally screws you for tax and it's a 48 hour a week contract with no paid overtime, 70+ hour work weeks are common, reviews say staff turnover is breathtakingly high, beware all that glistens, Aldi and Lidl also have been notoriously anti-union, if you think Tesco is bad, (and it is) the employment law breaking levels at Aldi are enough to make an employment law tribunal judge blush, work conditions have been referenced to as like being at an internment camp. This by the way is for Area Manager roles, it gets no better lower down, you're paid well but they more than take their pound of flesh.