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Title: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: kekeluca on 08-06-18, 08:57PM
Today I had a disciplinary because 6 weeks ago I had a full online row with a colleague about something we disagreed about. She filed a grievance at work suggesting I was disrespectful to her and today I was found guilty because I had breached Tesco T+C's Social Media Policy. The row was out of work, did not mention Tesco in any way but because I had, now mistakenly I know, put Tesco as my employer on FB I was found guilty despite the vile stream of abuse she fired in my direction in the online row, including calling me a c***. This is a lesson learned living in a democracy, apart from working for Tesco, you can not express your views openly without getting pilloried. Many of my colleagues I have asked today know nothing about Tesco Social Media Policy and how it works. If you have put Tesco on FB as your employer a friendly suggestion would be to remove it. I will not be appealing the decision because I believe we will start getting into kindergarden tit for tat and I been around too long to get into that. I only hope this doesn't give this colleague hope she can start abusing other members of staff in a similar fashion and thinking Tesco will back her all the way.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Equalizer87 on 08-06-18, 09:53PM
File a counter grievance if you like, see where that goes. If it's thrown out, it would look like a great case of disrimination.

But overall, a pathetic use of a 'social media policy' to beat staff once more.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: madness on 08-06-18, 09:58PM
Not what the policy should be used for. Tesco lost millions a few years ago. am I seen as financially incompetant because i am associated with the company?
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: kekeluca on 08-06-18, 10:15PM
I really can't be arsed to deal with her anymore such a total waste of mine and managers time. she puts up a post begging for love and sympathy and gets upset because I disagree with what she said. Lifes s*** and then you die deal with it the only certain things in life are death and taxes
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: mexicopete on 08-06-18, 10:34PM
We have a paranoid idiot in our store who caused a great many colleagues grief by trawling their Facebook walls looking for posts they imagined were about them. MM actually had about ten people up in the office asking them to explain what said posts meant.... you will get more sense talking to pre-school children than you will speaking to MM at any level in our store...absolute useless cretins en-mass. They must have nowt better to occupy their time than act as the Social Media police. The best of it is that the whole of my store know that MM have a What’s App group they use to s**g members of staff off on a daily basis.....talk about double standards. :( :( :(
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: kekeluca on 09-06-18, 12:14AM
As a colleague said Tesco have to be seen to be doing something so I have become the fall guy otherwise she could take further action against Tesco. The whole system is biased towards the complainant just nice to know when I saw her at work today she can't even look me in the face
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: lucgeo on 09-06-18, 06:51AM
I find it incredulous that this colleague has not been disciplined. I'm taking it that she didn't have Tesco as her employer on her profile?

Nevertheless, the heated discussion was two way!  By you disagreeing it resulted in foul language by her, so on that basis alone, I would expect her to have been disciplined, as guilty by association, and a Tesco employee. Especially if she mentioned in her rants, working with you ???

Dear god, the world has gone mad, drop me off at the next stop  :o

Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Welshie on 09-06-18, 08:00AM
I know you said you don't want to get into another fight with her but dont understand how she can walk away looking like the victim if it was a 2 way thing .
Another point for others is many people have been disciplined in our store due to social media policy , even if you don't have your employer as Tesco or mention Tesco, it doesn't matter , they say that people that know you , will know you work for Tesco and your actions/words can reflect on them . I personally don't agree with this but just letting others know
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 09-06-18, 10:16PM
Hiya all
im in the same situ not due to facebook but complaints have been put in against me . I will write a counteracted statement.
Today i gave a verbal notice im sad they think they have won.
i always think of other before myself . Been told that i dont .
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 09-06-18, 10:22PM
Dont know how they feel they are the victom when it is mee that has been victomised for most of my tesco time. There seems to b rules for me but not the others i work with union is involved but they dont do alot
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 09-06-18, 10:27PM
Ive been victomised most of my time working at tesco even by a union rep
always others seem to be the victim and is treated so
Im preasous because they have alot of rules for me but never in place for others who are in the click
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: kekeluca on 09-06-18, 10:53PM
Having done a straw poll without mentioning why I have only found 1 out of a dozen colleagues who had been advised about Tesco Social Media Policy !
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Adywebb on 09-06-18, 11:10PM
Everyone in our store has been given a copy of the policy to sign that they have read it and understand it.....its also on Our Tesco.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: kekeluca on 09-06-18, 11:22PM
You have to be registered for Our Tesco but if you are not we should be given a hard copy of the statement and spoken to
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: captain on 10-06-18, 08:08AM
Kekeluka

This is, probably, the best post I've seen in a long time.
No matter what the rights or wrongs of the incident ALL people reading this should be aware of all the risks of posting anything at all on any sort of on line forum.

Remember to all, think before you post as it might just end up with your job on the line.

Thanks once again for highlighting this issue
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Nomad on 10-06-18, 12:41PM
http://www.critical-thinking.org.uk/critical-thinking/bad-arguments/entitled-to-an-opinion.php (http://www.critical-thinking.org.uk/critical-thinking/bad-arguments/entitled-to-an-opinion.php)

One has the right to think, say or write whatever one wishes, however in the case of the latter two you may fall foul of the slander, libel laws or defamation of character.

One could also encounter penalties if going against any rules/agreements that were accepted when joining an organisation, club or forum.

"He who pays the piper calls the tune", but as in a lot of life those who call the tune endeavour to extend a short melody to a 4 hour opera  :(
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: penguin on 10-06-18, 08:58PM
If your done for social media invite them to prove it’s your account, anyone can set up an account t in anyone’s name so ask them to prove it’s your genuine account.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: GreenGrocer on 10-06-18, 09:34PM
 :thumbup:  penguin

It can be a good way of creating some mischief. Especially if you do it in the store managers name and add a few of the young GAs.   :)
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: filling-machine on 11-06-18, 08:54AM
Hiya all
im in the same situ not due to facebook but complaints have been put in against me . I will write a counteracted statement.
Today i gave a verbal notice im sad they think they have won.
i always think of other before myself . Been told that i dont .

Just be aware that they can record your reason for leaving as "resigned under investigation" and this is what will appear on your reference.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: filling-machine on 11-06-18, 08:57AM
If your done for social media invite them to prove it’s your account, anyone can set up an account t in anyone’s name so ask them to prove it’s your genuine account.

They don't have to "prove" it - just argue that 51 out of 100 people would reasonably come to the same conclusion. Not difficult to look at a bit of Facebook info, friends list etc to make a case.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: notsofunny on 11-06-18, 03:05PM
In today's world, its hard to understand why someone would get into anything that will end up giving them a kick up the backside, then also then bringing the said topic up on this site, when it then also opens up more problems for them selves with the details they have posted.

A bit off topic, .......
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Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Nomad on 11-06-18, 05:15PM
Thank god there are still some people in the world that will stand up for themselves & tell it like it is, and not just be happy to lick their 'masters' boots.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: notsofunny on 11-06-18, 06:01PM

I suppose the said person would need not need to thank god , but thank them self's when they find that if by doing so they do end up with a p45 ,
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Nomad on 11-06-18, 07:39PM
They may thank god for the courage to expose the guilty party (MM), who get their p45.

Back to topic.
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 11-06-18, 08:17PM
Nomad
your comments bring a smile to my face
even tho im leaving tesco i will still be putting a detailed statement in
i was on sick to help take care of my dying mum
my colleagues were encouraged to make a statement against me at this time by a rep who has made issues for me
1 letter will be off to union head quarters
i love this site thanku all
i do have courage to speak up many customers like me this irritates some
been told not everyone is going to like me
im worth holding on too their loss my health will be gained back

Global Moderator Comment I hope you get back to full health. Stay with VLH, you may get a few more smiles. Nomad
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 11-06-18, 09:03PM
Thanku nomad
will do   :)   :)
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: mexicopete on 11-06-18, 09:25PM
Nomad
your comments bring a smile to my face
even tho im leaving tesco i will still be putting a detailed statement in
i was on sick to help take care of my dying mum
my colleagues were encouraged to make a statement against me at this time by a rep who has made issues for me
1 letter will be off to union head quarters
i love this site thanku all
i do have courage to speak up many customers like me this irritates some
been told not everyone is going to like me
im worth holding on too their loss my health will be gained back

I hope you get back to full health.  Stay with VLH, you may get a few more smiles.  Nomad
You take care of yourself Miriam and get yourself back to good health asap. There are some truly despicable cretins employed by Tosco and you seem to have more than your fair share where you are working. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: Paul Weller on 11-06-18, 10:13PM
i was told the social media policy was "a guide and not rules" ready to beat us down at any opportunity , there was even complaints that pictures of children on a farm to fork posted online and this was deemed ok as it was promoting the company , even though the parents were not informed ... guess what happened , nothing ... #WIFS
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: miriam on 12-06-18, 11:53AM
Went to work on my section to work my last weeks notice and my manager has deleted me from the rota

i was given options to work on another department until manager was in.
decided to come home
Title: Re: Facebook and your Employer
Post by: forrestgimp on 14-06-18, 01:12PM
I have always found the easiest way not to fall foul of this is not to acknowledge I work for tesco nor mention them by name or implied, I never talk about work on facebook and I have roughly 4 people on it from work...

Why when you do not like the managers and majority of people you work with would you give them the time of day outside of it? I dont get it and as for getting into a slanging match with someone you say is a drama queen,????????? Why whats the point are you so bereft of stuff to do that you hang around having arguments on facebook with people you dont like?

Utter madness and to be honest its not just Tesco that have a victorian attitude to the whole social media just about every company in the world does.