Hi
With the weather that we look like we are getting with snow what is the actual policy on attendance if getting to work is impossible.
I've heard your local store but what even if this is not possible?
If you cant make your closest store then you have option of working time off back , taking unpaid or possibility of taking as holiday if you had any left. Other things you could do if you know there potential scenario then you could attempt to get shift swap before hand.
or ring in sick with the $hit$
There was a "storm" recently in Ireland and the company made the decision to close certain stores in affected areas and staff were paid . Do you think this severe weather could be bad enough to be a risk to life ?
If the weather is bad phone in sick of work.
Ringing in sick would go down as absence. Is not been able to get there an exception
Quote from: scours81 on 26-02-18, 03:23PM
Hi
With the weather that we look like we are getting with snow what is the actual policy on attendance if getting to work is impossible.
I've heard your local store but what even if this is not possible?
About 10 or so years ago I was snowed in for a week in my village i phoned work the first day told them and they were great, When i got back it was ok as well a few of us hadnt made it out of the village and non were told off or had meeting or anything.
Now things could have changed but if you cant get to work you cant get to work its that simple.
I cant remember if I got paid or not but I dont recall losing any money.
Unless you are 1 of the long serving colleagues who get all their sick pay. Why would you want to call in sick? It goes on your percentage
who cares about the %
FFS its a bit of snow, news are pumping it up.
If the weather is bad enough you cannot get to store then you should phone to say you are going to your local store. If even that is not possible then phone to tell your store and take it as change of day off, emergency holiday or unpaid.
Why anyone would phone in sick is beyond me, why create more hassle for yourself when the truth is good enough
www.motherandbaby.co.uk/shopping-and-reviews/shopping-ideas/tesco-are-to-fine-drivers-for-parking-in-parent-and-child-spaces# (http://www.motherandbaby.co.uk/shopping-and-reviews/shopping-ideas/tesco-are-to-fine-drivers-for-parking-in-parent-and-child-spaces#).
And which mug are they going to get to monitor this?? The poor trolley colleagues....left out in the car park unsupported most of the time, they already get enough abuse from customers. One young lad last week, got whistled by a lazy middle aged bloke, to come collect his trolley when he'd loaded his car :o the lad ignored him, so had the trolley propelled with force at him >:(
unless you live out in the sticks I for one cant understand how someone cant get into work one way or the other 8-),
Any excuse not to come to work.
Many people around the UK do live out in the sticks.
Ex employee myself, but was in the situation where my car was frozen in, it wasn't possible to move it and a local farmer used his 4x4 to get me out the next day....
Brown nose tl who lives a few miles away could get in and said... No snow or ice in our area.... A few miles away don't forget !!!!!
-Manager took his word over mine and I got a warning. Just because other's can get into work doesn't mean that you can !!!!!
Usdaw sat back and did nothing, but I had taken pictures of the wheels locked in ice, no contest, they lost and the Brown nose is still a dick !!!
the place is full of brown nosed dicks >:(
Quote from: tumshie on 28-02-18, 11:33AM
Many people around the UK do live out in the sticks.
Depends on what someone's meaning of many is.
Some people may consider a certain size of town as 'the sticks' as it is not a city 8-)
If your proper snowed in then yep not problems but the issue is some take the pee, last time we had snow staff got in from miles away one trio called in couldn't get in, no problem unpaid/holiday or work time back, 2 hrs later pictures of them building snowmen in the local park so close to the store you could see it in the background! Yet they couldn't get to work, now that pee'd a lot hard working staff off!
Some people don't need the bad weather excuse adding time on breaks and clocking out early.
Quote from: Nomad on 28-02-18, 04:49PM
Some people may consider a certain size of town as 'the sticks' as it is not a city 8-)
I remember traffic coming to a complete standstill for a couple of days up Headingley Lane in Leeds during a bad winter in the 1970s. So no way anyone was going anywhere and not quite the sticks.
Quote from: Weed on 28-02-18, 05:06PM
Some people don't need the bad weather excuse adding time on breaks and clocking out early.
You sure you work at a Tesco store ? This and other posts you have done seem to show a store from hell , with so many problems at the place you work at , I am supprised you want to stay working for tesco ??? ,
>:( did you not know 'THERE ARE STORES FROM HELL ?' I work in one. Why are you on VLH ?
Can T discipline staff for not turning in?
If your car is stuck, if roads are impassable, buses not running and your Gyrocopter is broken etc then a good rep should get any action stopped in its tracks.
What about if 2 people live next door to each other, one drives, one doesn't. The person who drives makes it in.
If anybody relies on public transport, and it is not running and assuming walking is not possible then what would one be expected to do.
In any bad weather there will be those who can get in and those who genuinely cannot, unfortunately it requires good MM to discern the genuine from the false. Yes, a big ask I know but that's life.
Our manager who is a bit of an idiot to put it mildly suggested we all look up on youtube "how people in Norway continue to travel around in snowy weather" when we had the snow a few weeks before Christmas, in fairness I've not known anyone in our shop to ever be done for not making it in in genuine bad weather the managers are fairly good at offering shift swaps, moving days off, time back etc in such circumstances.
I meant to add as well, the person who drives gives the other one a lift.
I wonder if anyone has Phoned in to say they cant get into work :question: , Or heard of someone that has :question:,
Loads in my DC
yes i would expect DC to be effected since they are mostly out of town, How are they doing with drivers getting in ?
It hasn't been too bad but trailers being slower to return is starting to have an effect.
Yes, loads in our store in Scotland. The snow is thigh deep in places. No public transport running, motorways closed, would take over an hour to walk in, but there's blizzards. No job is worth that. I based my decision not to go in on who would mourn me more in the result of an accident trying to get in...tesco or my family? It's a no brainer when you look at it like that. Police issued a red warning to stay off the roads, nowhere in that warning did it exempt tesco staff.
Quote from: grim up north on 01-03-18, 11:11AM
Can T discipline staff for not turning in?
Would depend on circumstances
Quote from: scours81 on 26-02-18, 03:23PM
Hi
With the weather that we look like we are getting with snow what is the actual policy on attendance if getting to work is impossible.
I've heard your local store but what even if this is not possible?
Just down on store comms ALL colleagues are to be paid for time off for weather related absence,ALL COLLEAGUES TO BE PAID FOR WEATHER RELATED ABSENCE.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
So are we all getting paid for not going in or do we get paid but have to give the hours back when we can?
Whilst I agree no one should be put at risk by being told they must attend work i'd prefer a more localised policy to be decided by each store who could best judge the conditions.
For instance in the last bout of snow someone living literally across the road (about 20 metres from store entrance) refused to come in; whilst others walked for up to an hour and nothing could be done.
Is it unreasonable to expect someone to get a bus or train to work provided they are running or have a 10 min walk?
Obviously in Red Areas I wouldn't expect anyone to risk injury but I do feel some individuals will use this to gain days off when they could reasonably have attended particularly in gritted urban areas.
Does anyone know if Tesco Ireland closed early today ? Government advised entire country to be home for 4pm .
Quote from: jedi on 01-03-18, 03:36PM
Quote from: scours81 on 26-02-18, 03:23PM
Hi
With the weather that we look like we are getting with snow what is the actual policy on attendance if getting to work is impossible.
I've heard your local store but what even if this is not possible?
Just down on store comms ALL colleagues are to be paid for time off for weather related absence,ALL COLLEAGUES TO BE PAID FOR WEATHER RELATED ABSENCE.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Is this for all over the country ? or just red alert areas ?
cant see them saying that for london , roads are clear transport is working ,
Also what about those that live across the road :(
That line you have put in that says NO EXCEPTIONS , is that what is in the E mail ?
Any one in an amber or red warning area can get paid. Anyone else in areas where it's not amber or red warning can make time up take a holiday or unpaid. Nothing more straight forward than that. Depends on where you live.
This is what we've been sent:
Adverse Weather and absence
Due to the weather conditions we know that this will impact some of our colleagues getting into work, I wanted to remind you of what we should be discussing with Colleagues who are unable to attend work. The below is taken from Page 6 of the Time off policy for your information. This absence should not be coded as sickness.
Please can you make your managers aware of this policy please.
• Attending work at a later starting time.
• Walking to work if this is reasonable or taking an alternative form of transport.
• Working at another store which is closer to home or easier to travel to.
• Working from home (for office colleagues if appropriate).
If you and your manager agree that none of the above options are possible you should then discuss how you are going to take the time off. Options will include taking holiday, shift swap, working hours back or taking time in lieu to provide a paid option or confirming at the colleague's request that the absence will be unpaid
So where is this email content saying paid if you can't get in, can it be quoted here and who was it sent from ?
Got a message this morning saying not to come in as all dot.com vans cancelled for the day. Look out the window and it looks no worse than when I was driving in it last night with no problem so I am assuming it is not down to local road conditions.
(we are in the DMZ between the Beast from the East and Storm Emma so missed the worst of the weather)
Company stating people safety important to us, anyone who can not get to work today due to bad weather will be paid. They are due to release an update ready for weekend to see if they will continue with this payment . All managers should be aware
Why would anyone bother coming to work if they will be paid to stay at home.. I haven't seen anything official on this
And there you have it. The ones who would take advantage of this will ruin it in the future.
Maybe due to a lack of communication at Tesco as usual. Dotcom were in filling today as there was 2 and a half days delivery in the warehouse. The rest were in the house as they had received a text telling them not to go to work. Our store is a mess and the TMs don't care.
Most colleagues have not taken advantage of this today most colleagues will not of been told in advance, most colleagues are open, honest, hard working . Not seen anything around this being carried on for the weekend yet
I have just been informed that staff that were off due to weather have been paid. How is this fair to those of us that had to brave the extreme weather and walk our way into work? Some of us had an hour plus walk to work.! I think maybe some sort of extra cash bonus for us that went in is fair. Otherwise next time I certainly wont make the effort. I'm disgusted at this. I know for a fact many that didnt turn up just didn't want the walk.
Public transport was off and some staff couldn't even be bothered walking 10 mins to get to work.
If there is an amber or red warning then staff will be paid if they can't get to work this also applys if the store has been closed , staff will be paid .
Ascott83
You always get the few, who take advantage of a goodwill gesture and ruin it for everybody else :-X
"You can't do right, for doing wrong" comes to mind.
Quote from: Ascott83 on 03-03-18, 07:37AM
I have just been informed that staff that were off due to weather have been paid. How is this fair to those of us that had to brave the extreme weather and walk our way into work? Some of us had an hour plus walk to work.! I think maybe some sort of extra cash bonus for us that went in is fair. Otherwise next time I certainly wont make the effort. I'm disgusted at this. I know for a fact many that didnt turn up just didn't want the walk.
If it is true then I will be asking my manager who let us go home early why hes telling me to make up the hours if every person who couldnt get in will get paid.
Im going to make sure I get paid for both days when i clocked out early.
Quote from: Ascott83 on 03-03-18, 07:37AM
I have just been informed that staff that were off due to weather have been paid. How is this fair to those of us that had to brave the extreme weather and walk our way into work? Some of us had an hour plus walk to work.! I think maybe some sort of extra cash bonus for us that went in is fair. Otherwise next time I certainly wont make the effort. I'm disgusted at this. I know for a fact many that didnt turn up just didn't want the walk.
Same in my store. They must have told the managers, as most of the lazy buggers stayed home on full pay. The real workers, many of whom had to walk through blizzards and deep snow to reach the store, didn't even get a thank you. >:(
Where can the info be found as i know our store will try and get out of paying,
I did not go in as i could not get car off drive and the 2 mile walk on crutches is not realistic so opted to take unpaid no mention from managers about company issuing instructions to pay our weather warning was amber.
Still not seen any official comms about being paid so seems unlikely
Confirmed in my store by the SM, who is not very popular with the real workers at the moment >:(
Tesco would rather see you risk your life getting to work and still discipline you for it when it's not a viable thing to do.
If you can't get to work then you can't. Tell them to complain to God if they're not happy about it.
Complain to God, but don't most Tesco store managers think themselves above the Lord anyway.
Stick and carrot the other way around......again, typical tesco management. If this really happened, let see next time we have snow, i wouldnt bother to walk to work in a chaotic shop that got not enough staff.....because of the snow.
A little off topic ,my area has not been affected by the snow at all but reading the news on-line , it would have you believe in some places shops are sitting empty either due to no deliveries or panic buying . Is it that bad in places ?
And if deliveries can't get through surely it would be understandable that some staff wouldn't be able to get to work .
Quote from: Welshie on 04-03-18, 09:17AM
A little off topic ,my area has not been affected by the snow at all but reading the news on-line , it would have you believe in some places shops are sitting empty either due to no deliveries or panic buying . Is it that bad in places ?
And if deliveries can't get through surely it would be understandable that some staff wouldn't be able to get to work .
Yes - and snow is random as it depends on where the winds blowing. You could have 5 foot snow in one road and a mile away no snow, so without inspecting or living next door to someone's house no one has the right to question if someone is saying they can't get in due to ice or snow. People can take it as a days holiday which is paid , or unpaid , can't get fairer than that.
It was harsh in my area because a lot of our staff come in from long distances and because our scissor lift broke ( because it froze) meaning our main fresh delivery failed the first day of snow.
I worked the bread two days ago.Literally wiped out our entire backstock and delivery by 2pm even though delivery was larger than normal. Never seen shelves so empty. Worse than when I worked bread in Christmas week.
(I am in Kent so our shop isn't even in the worst affected areas)
Not in an area that badly affected by snow but our store was a complete shambles. 10% of Staff never turned up Friday and Saturday. Shelves were completely empty by 3 yesterday. Worst mess was .com, cancelled all orders yesterday, totally understandable as some of the routes will have been bad but also cancelled orders being collected from store despite having 30+ pickers and 8 drivers in store, but even worse they never informed the customers who were arriving all day to collect their orders AND they still took payment from customers bank accounts, you would actually think they were trying to loose customers absoulete idiots😡
And no doubt be 3-5days till refund in their account . That Is bad !
Store near is running a day behind on deliveries and those aren't turning up until 30 minutes before the staff leave. Add to that lack of staff due to the weather, job 14 is non existent, waste piling up and shelf on certain areas are bare. Absolute shambles. And this is an inner city Metro.
It sounds awful . I'm just home from 2weeks holiday have heard we're short of some fruit and veg but that's it . Will there be a knock on effect for a few days , if stuff not getting to distribution will that affect stores for a while or is it getting to distribution and just not making it to stores??
Bit of both welshie. We have 100 trailers loaded waiting to go to store but no drivers to take them. Should start getting better now the weather is improving
Our DC can barely deliver on time in good weather. It will take at least a week to sort out this abortion.
Not helped by all the idiot punters panic-buying everything they can get their hands on, of course. It's not the Apocalypse, you pathetic morons. You don't actually need a dozen two pint cartons of milk and fifteen loaves of bread 8-)
It makes you wonder what would happen if we actually had some real bad weather
Well I just used it as an excuse to use up all the left over dribs and drabs from Xmas etc....in the freezer. Told the other half shelves empty by end of my shift ;) ;)
Amazing what you find in the dark recesses of long forgotten meals been made up and frozen from leftovers.. So far this week we've had lamb stew...beef casserole....today turkey breasts in gravy ...followed by Christmas pud from the back of the cupboard and brandy sauce....tonight bit of a mish mash buffet.... c**ktail sausage rolls...pizza...bits of .party food...using the lot up and even invited some of the tribe around.
Plus we've both noticed we don't feel so bloated, from not having bread with our meals ???
Best bit being, no big shop bill this week..so we're treating ourselves to a cinema trip and meal out on our day off next week....win win ;) ;)
Why does it take something like this to encourage you to eat up your leftovers? We have a small food recycling caddy where I live but I hardly have anything to put in it apart from bones picked clean and the odd mouldy crust of bread every few weeks.
VladPutin
I agree the DC can barely deliver on good weather. Our shelf's are empty alot of the time now. I thought the administrators were due in. The punters I see buying the bread are Asian newsagent owners who are selling them at double price while Tesco are sold out. They are driving about fast in there 18 reg Audi while the only thing happening quick at Tesco is the drop in share value. Who are the idiots!
I have been into work this morning, and everyone who did not come in, is going unpaid, we were on the edge of the red warning, and in the Amber zone, please can anyone advise as reading on here it should be paid? Thanks
I know someone posted communication saying all would be paid, but the communication which we got down ( in red zone ) was the company policy which is you have option, if safe to work in store close to you, take unpaid, use a holiday or work time back.
Nowhere did it say everyone was to be paid.
Thank you, I'm not worried one way or the other, but as the wages clerk I needed to double check as the information wasn't forthcoming from SM this morning.
Are you saying you follow what is said on this site to make payments ??? After all if you did then what did you decided to do , pay or not to pay ?
My understanding woulf be that you follow the rules on if someone should get paid or not as set out , unless you are told other wise by your S/M ,
Can anyone point us all in the direction of a E mail saying you are all to be paid if you did not turn up for work, Date ,time and full hard copy saying so would be a bare minimum ,
Does any1 know if members of staff are only getting paid for not showing up during the red weather warning only? Here in Scotland the red weather warning finished at 6pm on Thursday. But the advice from the police was exactly the same to not travel for the yellow weather wanrning also. I work nightshift so did not work Wed night or Thu night due to this.
Please don't get me wrong, I follow all the guidelines, but when I spoke to my SM he said no idea, and I was trying to find a paper trail one way or the other. All staff that did not come in have been unpaid, in accordance with guidelines, a member of staff brought the subject to my attention, and having checked through everything at work, I wanted to be able to assure them I had investigated it. If it was a case of they should of been I was hoping for more information on where and when the information was received, some of the staff are making up hours, and some are moving holiday, and their wages will be adjusted accordingly.
I have a copy of email sent from people manager,
Sent to all stores in a RED and AMBER area ,
"I have received clarification that due to the Amber and Red weather warnings ,colleagues that couldn't come to work due to snow or had to leave earlier due to snow ,SHOULD be paid for their shift .This is the same for if we close the store."
Please note this is for red and Amber snow warnings areas this is not for gen snow falls outside the Amber or Red warning .
There were two RED warning areas , one north the other south and Wales .
Tesco staff who battled Beast from the East snow to work 'rewarded' with £1.52 food voucher
Tesco Livingston manager Robert Milne's poster said: "Thank you for all your hard work ensuring we have been able to deliver lifeline services (food and fuel) across Scotland, Northern Ireland and the North of England last week.
"As a token of our thanks for everyone's efforts across the week to recover the service, we would like to issue all colleagues with a meal voucher.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tesco-staff-who-battled-beast-12163569 (https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tesco-staff-who-battled-beast-12163569)
More embarrassment :D :D :D
Blimey, as much as that. Only those who are detached from the front line fail to realise some things are best left undone/unsaid 8-)
What would happen if there was no public transport running, only major roads clear, and they "forced" you-to come in despite the fact say for example you couldn't drive and the only option was to walk in the freezing cold and sheet ice and it took an hour to walk there during normal conditions.. If someone was told to come to work and they slipped and broke their arm or leg trying to get there would Tesco be partially liable for that?
Short answer NO. Long answer, you could sue Tesco and demand compensation.
Quote from: Long gone on 09-11-19, 07:30PM
What would happen if there was no public transport running, only major roads clear, and they "forced" you-to come in despite the fact say for example you couldn't drive and the only option was to walk in the freezing cold and sheet ice and it took an hour to walk there during normal conditions.. If someone was told to come to work and they slipped and broke their arm or leg trying to get there would Tesco be partially liable for that?
They can't "make" you come in to work, if you can't come in, you ring them and let them know, they'll then have to follow the RTW process, if you don't ring in, it's classed as AWOL (unless you can prove you attempted to call, in which case, if the duty manager didn't pick up that's on them).
Though Tesco legally can let anybody with less than 2 years service go without a reason, they follow a process for disciplinaries, they can't sack you for not coming in (unless attendance is a sporadic prior issue and there's been numerous investigations and disciplinaries about such.) If they do sack you, appeal the decision that it doesn't conform with their own policy.
If you travel to work but there is a store nearer to you that is not the one you work in, you can swap to that. This does sometimes happen with managers as they have to move to get jobs, often. We had a manager who travelled over 20 miles to work but got in during the bad snow but a local colleague couldn't but lived less then 2 miles from store. The manager travelled on main roads that were treated and kept clear, the colleague was out in the sticks with single track roads.
This is a "how long is a piece of string" type scenario.
You also have drivers of different levels. Some more confident and experienced than others. If you are not confident at driving in bad weather you should not do so.
In this age we live in they close schools quickly, they seldom did this in my day. This tends to be a bigger issue and out of our control. To be suddenly landed with child care issues at very short notice tends to happen in bad weather when there are also transport issues.
With a red weather warning in place in some parts of the UK for tomorrow have any correspondence been sent to stores regarding staff not showing up.
If you can't get in you need to ring and let them know. I live in Scotland and we get loads of weather warnings. I travel just over 10 miles to work and with trees down and snow etc people still get in. Those that travel from one area know each other and we communicate. There was particular day with really bad roads when two people travelled in together and then they let the others know. There was a detour but we made it.
You need to be safe, don't take risks but weather warnings are not 100%. They are better than they used to be but I would not phone in to say unable to get to work before the actual day.
Thank God we can get a hot meal in the staff canteen after travelling to work in weather like this!
Oh, wait... :(
I once read that someone rang in to say they couldn't come in because of a weather warning but the warning was for Scotland and they were in Nottingham
My store sent out information on this late this morning. Too late for certain aspects such as allowing staff to work in stores closer to their home to be considered. I think my local would be very confused if I just turned up and announced I was there for a shift, without anything being organised in advance!