Click and collect van running

[lucgeo]

Correct...they cannot escalate the disciplinary warning on appeal. It's either overruled or status quo.

Respect to you for sticking by him, even though out of your comfort zone.👏👏

[dfl]

@lucgeo Thank you

[oldfashionedplayer]

Store manager talks a load of of balls, as usual they never know the policies.

It'll be up to an appeals manager,

The Appeals Manager is authorised to make a different decision if they feel it is appropriate e.g. they can:

uphold your appeal and reduce the level of disciplinary warning or no warning;

uphold your appeal and reinstate you if you were dismissed, giving you a lower level of warning*;

uphold your appeal and reinstate you if you were dismissed, giving you no warning; or
agree that the disciplinary sanction was correct in all the circumstances.

So better circumstance or same from what it says on the policy, the letters for managers say too of:

Action upheld,

Dismissal overturned,

Action reduced.

So it's worth going for it to be honest.

[dfl]

@oldfashionedplayer thank you watch this space, just some time to prepare

[dfl]

Does anyone have link to the current drivers handbook, been looking for ages

[biggerpicture]

Is there anything on this subject on Click & Learn that would help?

[oldfashionedplayer]

Does anyone have link to the current drivers handbook, been looking for ages

Does this help?

https://colleague-help.ourtesco.com/hc/en-us/articles/8215320133148-Large-Stores-My-Role-Packs

If it doesn't go abywhere just colleague help and search role pack.

Also the lead manager grocery home shopping ha like 20 pages of covering the store across everything from dotcom to fresh and customer service etc whilst store manager has 4 pages lol

[dfl]

Handbook isnt in role packs, iirc the unattended phrase is in some document (section H), it will be sought, this process is a nightmare, the disciplinary refers to appeal to group pm, online form took some finding, but no address either physical or online supplied to send it to (very convenient im sure), preparing one now to go to manager at store instead

[lucgeo]

@dfl

All email addresses are the same...just enquire the name of the group PP and insert it to the set format...can't remember the exact set out but it's along the lines of JoeBloggs.@Tesco.co.uk

Has someone out there got the correct format for emails??

[1982dave]

It's mad hearing this because I know for 100% in my store there's a few vans with battery issues which get used for click and collect and are allways left running for unloading and have been for a hour 2 hours at a time and has never had any problems doing so

[dfl]

@1982dave same at our store, idling common practice, calming down a little now (wonder why), but i do still see it as i check when i go into work, it angers me no end the Jobsworth has done this, and indeed had assistance to do so

[oldfashionedplayer]

Ah

Handbook isnt in role packs, iirc the unattended phrase is in some document (section H), it will be sought, this process is a nightmare, the disciplinary refers to appeal to group pm, online form took some finding, but no address either physical or online supplied to send it to (very convenient im sure), preparing one now to go to manager at store instead

Ah I figured everything had mainly just added to the role packs apologies, worth a try then trying to, if you can't find the group pm, message colleague help or request it from your managers, they'll be able to give you the information if your stores area people manager and how to contact them, I know when I had to the 2 they gave me both phone numbers were "out of use" so I had to request they be looped into emails to get attention that way with colleague help.

[dfl]

Appeal letter ready, the online form cant be typed on properly as its not formatted correctly, so letter done will go by email if i get one, will be trying to get that from manager in next day or so

[1982dave]

@1982dave same at our store, idling common practice, calming down a little now (wonder why), but i do still see it as i check when i go into work, it angers me no end the Jobsworth has done this, and indeed had assistance to do so

it's laughable really it's a issue when it suits but 99.9% of the time no one has a problem with it my store has sooo many damaged vans swapped over to click van left running I've seen it soo many times and no one has had a issue

[dfl]

Just been informed that notices will now be going up that vans have not to be left idling when not in the van, dont know how this will work with just 1 plug point for 2 vans (like setting staff up to fail), i will see the wording proper of these notices when they appear

[lucgeo]

So this goes in your favour for the appeal, as to put a notice up suggests it's not just a one off, and common practice.

So take a screen shot of the notices, and save for future reference. Can guarantee that within weeks a manager will try overriding the rules, especially if it's affecting scheduling.

Should that be the case, the request must be put in writing by said manager, and can still be refused by the colleague as an unreasonable request, as not in compliance with the rules.

[oldfashionedplayer]

Like lugceo says, if they are throwing up posters it's pretty much admitting the issue is common practice otherwise it'd just be a case of saying "driver needs retraining" and just referring back to the training in it but not all drivers.. So definitely use that as part of your appeal process that the store is blatantly admitting its an issue and only singled out and penalised one colleague for it which could be seen as targeted.

[dfl]

@lucgeo @oldfashionedplayer I agree and will be collecting 'evidence' cheers all for the advice so far from everyone its helped a lot

[dfl]

Kinda weird, the employee said they were told couple of days ago that posters would be going up, now tells me as of today no such thing has appeared, very strange